posted June 23, 2011 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
yay!! I feel like I can just open up to you no bars held, and I am not going to be judged badly by you. I hope it's helping you and not boring you :P

Sorry to only see this now I was just madly answering all the other aspects you pointed out earlier hehe

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Yes, this is so wonderfully interesting for me--a PLEASURE

posted June 23, 2011 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
Our sense of humor is EXACTLY the same. Even now we joke about things we used to when we were together. We had just so much fun and I have never laughed harder with someone in my life. I feel that he was the same with me (though of coruse I can't speak on his behalf) but we definitely had some good times and could joke about everything .. immediately after we met we alerady had 'inside' jokes.

Relating to fate (and also our Moon NN cnojunction which is 4 degrees orb) within a couple of weeks of MEETING we said we felt this was fated. Even the way I got the job was fated and before I took the job I had these CLEAR crossroads in front of me. It was like looking at the NN / SN axis. One road, the one I was on was the SN. Yes I knew it and I was comfortable there. The NN fork in the road was the new job. I quit a permanent comfy position to take on a 3 month contract with no forseeable future and I had a mortgage. Most people would have said Iw as crazy. I thought it was a leap of faith. Luckily I am still in that job 2.5 years later, and it has been made permanent . I knew going the less safe, untrodden road way was the way I was being pulled and I KNEW it was significant. My entire future changed in an instant once I made that decision, and I know I wouldnt be where I am now if I hadn't. I believe I made the right choice even though it's come with some pain regarding this relationship which was fated I believe. Vertex is fate. We were fated and we both said that to each other.

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Would Jupiter on the vertex make humor the same?
I am thinking that a Mercury connection would do it.Perhaps,a moon connection could put you on the same wave length.too

How would Jupiter on the vertex play out do you think?
Is it a close connection cuz of the FATED aspect of it?
Would Jupiter being the conjunct planet to the vertex MAKE it a Jupiter type of relationship?
Can you say that about planets that hit the Vertex--they flavor the relationship.

posted June 24, 2011 08:15 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
3.12 degree orb. Too big? I am not sure this resonates with us. He wasn't loyal I think he apprecaited my drive and ambition though. His little sis is an Aries and is extremely driven. He is very family orientated and see this as a good thing. It was like their brother/sister relationship was reversed though. He acted like the younger sibling that never lived up to the older sibling. Except he WAS the older sibling and never felt he lived up to what his sister's achievements were. Maybe my drive was a good and bad thing.

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The orb is not too big for consideration of the energy purposes as a factor but a much weakened one.

posted June 24, 2011 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
Hi Ami! Just checking in quickly before work hehe :P

I'll help you out with the degrees. What orbs are you looking at, 2 degrees??

His Venus conj Mars conjuncts Your lucifer
Venus and Mars - 0.34 Taurus, Lucifer - 26.51 Aries

YOU have Lucifer conjunct mercury
26.51 Aries, 28.13 Aries

His Vesta(i think it is the Vesta icon) conjuncts your Nessu
It is Vesta -6.15 Leo Nessus - 7.46 Leo

His Saturn conjuncts your Deja
Saturn 12.39 Leo , Deja - 11.48 Leo

Your Satuen conjuncts his Uranus
Saturn - 12.23 Scorpio, Uranus - 8.19 Scorpio

Your Mars conjuncts his Juno
Mars - 20.23 Scorpio, Juno - 17.11 Scorpio
(hovering on my MC at 18.40 Scorpio)

His vertex conjuncts your Jupiter.
Vertex - 14.20 Capricorn, Jupiter - 12.42 Cap

Your Pandora conj His Wisdom
Pandora - 23.09 Leo, Wisdom - 21.46 Leo
(all sitting on my DC?!?! 22.45 Leo)

Your Wisdom conjuncts his Deja
Wisdom - 0.17 Capricorn, Deja - 5.19 Cap

His Bride conjuncts your ASC
Briede - 22.57 Aqua, ASC - 22.45 Aqua

His child conj Your Psyche
Child - 11.53 Aqua, Psyche - 14.30 Aqua

Hope this helps! Just let me know in future and I will do all the hard work of looking up degrees

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Ok I will work on some of these.Please ADD anything you have close with him Asteroid or Planet.
For the asteroids ,follow the 2 degree orb rule.For planet to planet--follow the normal rule i.e. accepted astrological standards.
I am gonna need to ask people to look up things as you are cuz I have too many charts ,now,to search for aspects myself.
Please--don't add Draconic as I don't use it as I said in an earlier post

posted June 24, 2011 08:25 AM            

I am not familiar with Isis.

posted June 24, 2011 08:34 AM            

His V touches your ego/sense of identity. He gives you this selfless energy right at the most basic core of who you are.
His putting on your PJ's and taking you to bed without you waking up reflects this, to me

posted June 24, 2011 08:37 AM            

When you see things that do not go together such as the Cupido,you do not worry or wonder.All astrology is true.All fits together as slices in a complex puzzle which has a single whole which is the person ,in the natal and the relationship in the synastry.
When things are repeated several times, they are a theme you can trust.
The others are smaller slices.

posted June 24, 2011 02:07 PM            

Fate some would call it, that today I was driving home from work and the car in front of me turned off. His car was the next one in front. He noticed me (kept looking in the rear mirror) and eventually I waved and he did back. When we hit the traffic lights and the lane split into two, he stopped his car far enough back so when my car went into the next lane we were lined up. He wound down his window and indicated that I should do the same and we had a quick little catch up car-to-car chat. So nice. It's very unusual we would be travelling at the same time as I had left work early to do something and he had left earlier than normal as well.
Anyway, we went the same way until he was almost home and when we split off he wound down his window (he was 4 lanes across on the freeway by this stage) and gave me a big wave from the car. naww. hehe ... even not speaking for a couple of months it was like we were never apart. It's always like that when we chat.

Also I will list planet-planet aspects (I think that's what you were asking?). We have some very powerful ones that can be seen as a negative but bonding effect in synastry (think Saturn and Pluto-type of relationship tempered with moon- and ASC-type of positive aspects).

I'll be back in the morning !!

posted June 25, 2011 06:04 AM            

Back with the planet - planet aspects

My MOON trine his SUN (2.14)
My MOON trine his JUPITER (4.02)
My MOON trine his MOON (6.38)

My PLUTO opposite his VENUS (0.25)
My PLUTO opposite his MARS (0.25) (his venus and mars are conjunct exact at 0.34 taurus)
My PLUTO sesquiquadrate his SUN (0.53)
My PLUTO sesquiquadrate his JUPITER (0.55)

My SATURN conjunct his URANUS (4.04)
My SATURN square his SATURN (0.16)

My MARS opposite his MERCURY (3.28)
My MARS square his MOON (4.31)

My URANUS trine his SATURN (0.16)
My URANUS opposite his SUN (4.22)
My URANUS opposite his JUPITER (1.51)
My URANUS conjunct his NEPTUNE (2.21)
My URANUS sextile his PLUTO (0.56)

My NEPTUNE trine his VENUS (0.27)
My NEPTUNE trine his MARS (0.27)

My JUPITER square his PLUTO (0.45)
My JUPITER quincunx his SATURN (0.03)

My MERCURY conjunct his VENUS (2.21)
My MERCURY conjunct his MARS (2.21)
My MERCURY semisquare his SUN (2.49)
My MERCURY semisquare his JUPITER (1.01)

My VENUS opposite his URANUS (4.33)
My VENUS square his SATURN (0.13)
My VENUS quincunx his PLUTO (1.25)

My SUN square his MOON (2.48)
My SUN conjunct his MERCURY (1.45)

SUMMARY:

Planets that are aspecting each other's both ways:
Sun and Moon
Moon and Moon
Saturn and Uranus
Mercury and Mars
Saturn and Saturn
Sun and Mercury
Jupiter and Pluto
Venus and Pluto

ASC/DC Axis
My ASC Ruler = Uranus
His ASC Ruler = Venus

My DC Ruler = Sun
His DC Ruler = Pluto

My ASC Ruler opposes his ASC Ruler (4.33)
My ASC Ruler sextiles his DC Ruler (0.56)

My ASC = URANUS My DC = SUN.
In Synastry we have a URANUS opposing SUN aspect (4.22)

His ASC = VENUS His DC = PLUTO
In Synastry we have a VENUS opposing PLUTO aspect (0.25)

Our natal ASC/DC axes are reflected in our synastry.

HIS ASC= VENUS His DC = PLUTO
In synastr we have a VENUS quincunx PLUTO aspect (1.27)

My ASC square his ASC (0.58)

His MOON (ruler of 3rd) conjunct my ASC (2.09)
My SUN (ruler of 7th) conjunct his ASC (1.37)
My MARS (ruler of 10th and 3rd) conjunct his DC (3.20)

Other houses

My 5th Ruler = Gemini / Mercury
His 5th Ruler = Libra / Venus

My 11th Ruler = Sagittarius / Jupiter
His 11th Ruler = Aries / Mars

My 5th ruler conjunct his 11th ruler (2.21)
My 5th ruler conjunct his 5th ruler (2.21)

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There could be other things I have missed lol but I think this is enough for now

posted June 25, 2011 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok
I am gonna take these Asteroids and meditate on them.
His Valentime conj your Sun
Your Val conjunct his IC
Your Hera(Juno) conjunct hs Cupido
His Hera conj your DC

I am not familiar with Isis.

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Taken from: http://ravenesquetarot.com/2011/05/15/asteroid-42-isis/

In your natal chart, Isis indicates a point of true and undeniable love, an unwavering devotion to your chosen mate. Here, you are prepared to do whatever it takes to maintain the connection. There is extreme forgiveness and understanding, even in the face of jealousy, adversity and unfaithfulness. No doubt the Isis individual experiences infidelity within their connections a few times and unless there is a natal Uranus, or Pluto aspect controlling it, they are the type that will be able to heal from that whilst remaining in the relationship. They may even be the type who state that an affair can improve their love life. Those with the Uranus or Pluto connections however, would have no tolerance for any form of betrayal and would easily move on from a connection where infidelity was experienced.

Adoption could be a high possibility with natal Isis in aspect and one can also not ignore the reference to and usage of magic. Individuals with strong aspects to Isis would have an undeniable attraction for magical world. Isis was a positive, loving, forgiving Goddess, and the ultimate mother figure head, who helped her husband work with the world of death. She was famous for her usage of magic and it is noted in some works that she foresaw the death of her husband. It would be expected that the Isis individual would have heightened intuition and an intense dream world.

What one would have to be careful of however regards Isis in the natal, or active by transit, is an attraction to ‘love spells’. It would be quite natural for the Isis individual to be drawn into ways of manipulating their desires through the study of magic, or the employ of those who work in the craft.

In transit, Isis would be a telling influence regarding love triangles, infidelity temptation or acts thereof, fertility concerns, actual birth, heightened intuition and an attraction to or magic. It is a time where the maternal desire is strong as is the connection to your deepest romantic love. Obviously this is nothing but positive when events are in your favour, but it can be quite tricky when they are not. One can be tempted to manipulate, play jealousy games, or enter into deceptive relations.

posted June 25, 2011 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Would Jupiter on the vertex make humor the same?
I am thinking that a Mercury connection would do it.Perhaps,a moon connection could put you on the same wave length.too

How would Jupiter on the vertex play out do you think?
Is it a close connection cuz of the FATED aspect of it?
Would Jupiter being the conjunct planet to the vertex MAKE it a Jupiter type of relationship?
Can you say that about planets that hit the Vertex--they flavor the relationship.

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I'm starting to think this may not be as big a contributing factor in our relationship as first thought.

When I first read up on the Vertex axis I found this page informative: http://thezodiac.com/notworth.htm

It suggests that in synastry the slower the planets the smaller the orb.

It also suggests that as our own natal vertex is only found in houses 5 through 8 that it is aptly associated with "meetings of people".

The only aspect when we first met was that Pluto was conjunct my anti-Vertex (0.41 separating orb). This relationship has definitely had a Pluto and transformative feel to my life. I have definitely grown so much as a person (to the point where people close to me have commented on this, even my Saturnian father!!!) but I don't think he has. With my Moon conj his North Node (though the degree is wide - 4 deg) I think he may have ran from this as well. You can probably see it has overtones and undertones of lightness and intensity. (Gemini sun with Scorpio DC , should have been perfect... but may have scared him as well.

Regarding synastry: "in synastry, the most effective when another person's natal Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Midheaven, Venus or Mars conjuncts your natal Vertex or anti-Vertex. I've gotten a wee bit stingy in my old age - and I only (90% of the time) use conjunctions when looking at the Vertex and anti-Vertex. Also, the slower a planet is... the more narrow my orbs tend to get when looking at cross aspects with the Vertex and anti-Vertex."

posted June 25, 2011 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Valentine(V) is a VERY important soul mate Asteroid,
V is the energy that will throw himself in fron of a bus to save his beloved,give an organ etc
It is a selfless love .
His V conj your Sun.Yours conj his IC.
You touch him in one of his deepest places, the IC.
The IC is ourselves without the mask, vulnerable as a child,naked, defenseless.
He must feel your selfless love for him.

His V touches your ego/sense of identity. He gives you this selfless energy right at the most basic core of who you are.
His putting on your PJ's and taking you to bed without you waking up reflects this, to me

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Naww yes I can see that. I always thought of Valentine as a 'true love' energy but didn't associate it with selfless love. I never got to know the asteroids in depth though.

posted June 25, 2011 07:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Juno conj his Cupido. Cupido is fake love, the look of love.
So,this aspect would mean you loved him with a pure love an dhe loved you with a fake love.
His Juno conj your DC.
He wants to marry you.
Again,this is repeated.

When you see things that do not go together such as the Cupido,you do not worry or wonder.All astrology is true.All fits together as slices in a complex puzzle which has a single whole which is the person ,in the natal and the relationship in the synastry.
When things are repeated several times, they are a theme you can trust.
The others are smaller slices.

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posted June 25, 2011 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
I'm having a sneak peak at our draconic charts again (past life). I havent seen them in ages.

Instead of his BRIEDE conjunct my ASC in this lifetime (our natal charts), MY bride conjuncts HIS ASC in the past life (1.05 orb) as well as his MERCURY. Our JUNOS are conjunct at 24.08 and 24.20 Aries (0.12 orb) which conjuncts my natal HERA which sits at 24.10 Aries and my natal PHOLUS at 23.53 Aries and his natal CUPID at 24.39 Aries and my Draconic VERTEX sits at 25.24 Aries. I have a feeling 24 Aries is significant for us.
Sabian Symbol - The Possibility For Man To Gain Experience At Two Levels Of Being.

We have often dreamt about each other, even after not seeing each other for a long time. We have dreamt about each other on the same night or within a night of each other.

His Child conjunct my POF. (0.57 orb)

My draconic DC conjunct his SUN in this lifetime (0.06)
My draconic DC conjunct his draconic EROS (0.36) which all conjuncts his natal SUN.

My VENUS conjunct his CERES (0.41) and my VENUS conjunct his LUCIFER (1.17)

His POF conjunct my LUCIFER (1.45) His POF conjunct my MERCURY (0.13). Interesting.

My VESTA conjunct his DC (1.16)

I have only looked at a handful of asteroids, about half of the natal ones we are studying... seems that we have signfiicant asteroid synastry in current and past life charts I dont think we need to analyse the draconics at this stage!!!!! Way too much LOL But I just wanted to show the significance of this particular synastry. The more I see the more I can understand why I just can't get him out of my head, and I don't think he can either (he has said this as well). It's craziness. And I dont understand his actions at this point but I guess I never will. *sigh*

I have to go to bed now. Hope you are having a wonderful day!!!! And I hope when you read all of this you aren't too overwhelmed by it all!!!

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Are some of these current ones and not Draconic like Pars Fortune and Child?
Please tell me which are current cuz I would love to do them.
Can I assume that all of the ones you did NOT refer to as Draconic are current?

posted June 25, 2011 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Are some of these current ones and not Draconic like Pars Fortune and Child?
Please tell me which are current cuz I would love to do them.
Can I assume that all of the ones you did NOT refer to as Draconic are current?

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posted June 25, 2011 12:39 PM            

Here are a couple of asteroid aspects I was hoping we could look into before we move onto the planets Only if you feel up to it of course! You have put in so much effort, and I really do appreciate it.

1. His PALLAS conjucnt my VALENTINE (1.14)

2. His CUPID conjunct my PHOLUS (0.46)

3. His BRIDE conjunct my ASC (0.12) and my BRIDE conjunct his EROS (0.08). - What do you think of this, and with such tight orbs?! I know you said it was the hallmark of the relationship, but would this mean that we were destined to marry, or would have been more likely to, or wanted to, or will ALWAYS want to?!?! I'm not sure how to take this. I feel it is significant.

4. His VESTA conjunct my NESSUS (1.31)

5. His CHILD conjunct my PSYCHE (2.37) ... you mentioned that his inner child would connect with my deepest soul. I am not sure how this would play out!? I always thought child meant, children as in offspring lol. Could you give me any pointers, if you have an idea of how it would play out? Or something to trigger my mind as to how it would play out? I feel like I can't connect to this one for some reason.

posted June 25, 2011 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
You are so wonderful for looking at these with me! Thanks so much.
Even though we are both learning, your words and wisdom are helping me more than you know. I am definitely big believer of fate, and feel opening up these doors is making things more clear and hopefully will help this chapter in my life (with him). I just find it uncanny that he actually stopped on purpose to have a conversation with me yesterday, just after I am starting to feel open and letting things go. And the fact that we just happened to be in the same place at the same time, makes this seem more real?!!?!

Here are a couple of asteroid aspects I was hoping we could look into before we move onto the planets Only if you feel up to it of course! You have put in so much effort, and I really do appreciate it.

1. His PALLAS conjucnt my VALENTINE (1.14)

2. His CUPID conjunct my PHOLUS (0.46)

3. His BRIDE conjunct my ASC (0.12) and my BRIDE conjunct his EROS (0.08). - What do you think of this, and with such tight orbs?! I know you said it was the hallmark of the relationship, but would this mean that we were destined to marry, or would have been more likely to, or wanted to, or will ALWAYS want to?!?! I'm not sure how to take this. I feel it is significant.

4. His VESTA conjunct my NESSUS (1.31)

5. His CHILD conjunct my PSYCHE (2.37) ... you mentioned that his inner child would connect with my deepest soul. I am not sure how this would play out!? I always thought child meant, children as in offspring lol. Could you give me any pointers, if you have an idea of how it would play out? Or something to trigger my mind as to how it would play out? I feel like I can't connect to this one for some reason.

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No the ones I didn't comment after, you haven;t mentioned yet. Not to worry )

You didn't mention Bride Eros either. I have double checked all these

The Child Psyche, and Bride ASC, I was hoping you could elaborate on, as I wrote above I am not quite understanding it.

posted June 25, 2011 08:10 PM            

Yes, you both thought each was "the one". I am not sure what happened to break you up but you EACH thought you had found your true love.
he wants/wanted to marry you--totally, for sure.