posted August 08, 2014 06:39 AM            

I feel that the charts will yield up their wisdom if one is committing to doing them. The people who love Astrology and asteroids seem called to this journey out of pure love for the field.

I was expecting criticism because I get it a lot. People say, "HOW do you come to these conclusions?"

posted August 08, 2014 07:02 AM            

Jupiter in 12th house and mars in 8th.

They are in fixed signs.

Astrolada explains this aspect very well in her video.

I feel like I'm being mentally manipulated. Last time such thing happened, was when I was away from my homeland.

My pluto in 9th house was the reason.

Now it's here on this website.

I hope this will make me stronger in the future.

Btw. I am sorry Indigo.

I respect your opinion, and I hope you respect mine too.

Maybe in our synastry we have bad aspects which makes us fight this way. It must be pluto because it's really intense and it's the manipulation of beliefs and opinion.

I am sorry for causing you stress. I felt the same way and last night I had a bad dream. I went to dreammoods.com and found out the meaning of the dream and it said it was because of mental stress and rage.

Now I think we should both give up this stupid fight. **** BML.

For now, I'll stop talking or debating about BML. Please don't start again with it. I've had enough. I could go on if I wanted, because I believe in my reasons. But I'm not going to talk about it anymore and I expect the same. I respect your opinion as well.

Sorry for making an enmity with anyone here, if I have, and I would now like to make a truce.

Cheers. x

posted August 08, 2014 07:15 AM            

------------------
Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.

posted August 08, 2014 07:26 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is lovely, Mia

---

Thank you, Ami Anne

posted August 08, 2014 07:54 AM            

I wonder f you're actually aware how rude some of your posts are. Do look at your last post in response to Athenegoddess where you said, "You modern astrologers are making your own little thing that disgraces the word "astrology"". That reveals your true feelings.

Then again you referred to other posters as Indigo's side-kicks. Not nice! But, a few minutes later you apologise.

posted August 08, 2014 07:57 AM            

I recently swallowed my pride and apologised for my behaviour on here too.

Well done. It's not easy, but it really does always take two sides to create an argument.

No matter how right we think we are, we must try and avoid our opinions causing harm.

It's all learning. It's hard when you feel so passionately about something, and it is challenge.
It feels like a challenge to your very soul.
But in the end, no opinion is worth harm.

posted August 08, 2014 08:34 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Miapluto,

I recently swallowed my pride and apologised for my behaviour on here too.

Well done. It's not easy, but it really does always take two sides to create an argument.

No matter how right we think we are, we must try and avoid our opinions causing harm.

It's all learning. It's hard when you feel so passionately about something, and it is challenge.
It feels like a challenge to your very soul.
But in the end, no opinion is worth harm.

I think it is brilliant that you have recognised this. I totally relate.

---

Thank you voix the la mer

It's one of the life's experiences, both good an bad teach us something. This taught me something.

xx

posted August 08, 2014 11:18 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by MiaPluto:
Yes it is exalted in virgo.

Seriously, are you going to really deny that?!

You modern astrologers are making your own little thing that disgraces the word "astrology". It's not what you "think" it's what it is. If you believe something is not exalted in a sign, then it's just your own thinking.

Exaltations don't happen because of necessarily which sign "suits" it the best.

Have you never read Ptolemy's reasons behind exaltations? Perhaps that would open your eyes a little.
http://sacred-texts.com/astro/ptb/ptb25.htm

---

Oh, dear-heart, you are NOT the only one on the planet with MERCURY in VIRGO -- and certainly not this board. Meaning, you are hardly special by that definition, or better than the rest of us.

That makes a whopping 8.3% chance that any one of us will have MERCURY in VIRGO.

Now, Tyrian is better suited to calculations of THAT ilk. What's the probability that someone on LL has MERC in VIR? I wonder. How big is this site anyway?

The raw probability is 8.3%, but on LL, it must be larger. Closer to 10-12%.

posted August 08, 2014 11:20 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Gabby:
Very true Indigo! And I get the disrespect will get to a boiling point....she's Canadian I almost wonder if French Canadian, as I've noticed they tend to have a way of coming at ppl that is a bit harsh without meaning to be that way.....but still it's not an excuse for disrespectful behavior.

---

posted August 08, 2014 11:26 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Gabby:
It's all good we still love you, we just want to give everyone room to be here even if they are not always perfect and rub some wrong, we can mix together n grow and if we can't we could just avoid the person...we just want a win/win here for everyone!
Nobody needs to hurt or get hurt if at all possible!
But I learned when you hit your breaking point your a force to be reckoned with....I won't take you on!! Lol
Love you!

---

Thank you, Gabby. I really, really do appreciate it. I'M always for the win-win in any case. We're such a great group; we learn so much from each other, arrive at wonderful revelations, share so much knowledge and information -- I get a bit defensive. I expect everyone to play nicely, with respect and dignity.

It's the Libra.

posted August 08, 2014 11:45 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Really? Huh! I haven't noticed that from my Canadian friends in written communications. Perhaps, combined with her youth, she's coming across in a 'less pleasant form'.

---

posted August 08, 2014 12:21 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, dear-heart, you are NOT the only one on the planet with MERCURY in VIRGO -- and certainly not this board. Meaning, you are hardly special by that definition, or better than the rest of us.

That makes a whopping 8.3% chance that any one of us will have MERCURY in VIRGO.

Now, Tyrian is better suited to calculations of THAT ilk. What's the probability that someone on LL has MERC in VIR? I wonder. How big is this site anyway?

The raw probability is 8.3%, but on LL, it must be larger. Closer to 10-12%.

When you get to high school, Mia, you'll study probability and it'll make more sense to you.

---

When did I EVER say I'm the only one with mercury in virgo?! I don't understand why you needed to explain me that?

I just said it was exalted, which is a fact. I never said I was the ONLY ONE to have mercury exalted?

So it seems like you don't want accept my truce.

Alright. I don't have time for this **** . You just need an excuse to bring me down for my every post!

You're a cyber-bully, Indigo.

posted August 08, 2014 12:27 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Astro keen:
Mia,

I wonder f you're actually aware how rude some of your posts are. Do look at your last post in response to Athenegoddess where you said, "You modern astrologers are making your own little thing that disgraces the word "astrology"". That reveals your true feelings - your contempt.

Then again you referred to other posters as Indigo's side-kicks. Not nice! Adding "LOL" at the end did not disguise your resentment, I'm afraid. But, a few minutes later you apologise.

Your anger, if that is what you call it, is still very much in evidence. A greater change in the way you communicate will be needed .

---

I was stating my opinion. I just don't believe so much in modern astrology. It's making things more complex and hard to understand.

Modern astrologers are trying to disprove the century long facts of astrology? I really find it ridiculous to be honest.

She was saying that she doesn't think mercury is exalted in virgo.

That's why it angered me.

Because mercury has ALWAYS been exalted in virgo. Ptolemy explains it.

I can't believe I even have to argue for something like that, jeez. I can't even state an opinion!

posted August 08, 2014 12:34 PM            

I did it.

But it doesn't seem like any of you want to accept it.

Fine.

I won't bother with any of you anymore.

You all grown up people are fighting against 1 young person, and when she apologizes and tries to make a truce, you guys don't accept it.

Age is just a number, and I can see that today.

posted August 08, 2014 12:48 PM            

I have not read this interchange so really can't comment on the ins and outs BUT if someone bothers you, Mia dear, try to ignore. It took me 6 years to do and I get baited a LOT, and I mean a lot, but the best thing you can do for yourself is to ignore.

Come on over to the Brown Owl and spend some time with me

------------------
Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.

posted August 08, 2014 12:56 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Gabby:
It's all good we still love you, we just want to give everyone room to be here even if they are not always perfect and rub some wrong, we can mix together n grow and if we can't we could just avoid the person...we just want a win/win here for everyone!
Nobody needs to hurt or get hurt if at all possible!
But I learned when you hit your breaking point your a force to be reckoned with....I won't take you on!! Lol
Love you!

---

Exactly how I feel, I second this and love you too.

posted August 08, 2014 01:01 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by MiaPluto:
I made an effort to make a change, a truce with you guys. Putting aside your beliefs takes a lot of effort.

I did it.

But it doesn't seem like any of you want to accept it.

Fine.

I won't bother with any of you anymore.

You all grown up people are fighting against 1 young person, and when she apologizes and tries to make a truce, you guys don't accept it.

Age is just a number, and I can see that today.

---

posted August 08, 2014 01:05 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mia and my other Friends

I have not read this interchange so really can't comment on the ins and outs BUT if someone bothers you, Mia dear, try to ignore. It took me 6 years to do and I get baited a LOT, and I mean a lot, but the best thing you can do for yourself is to ignore.

Come on over to the Brown Owl and spend some time with me

---

Aaw thank you so much Ami Anne xx

*walks inside brown owl*

posted August 08, 2014 01:05 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Gabby:
I saw your apology as genuine and it appeared several others did also!! Good job!
Just let this drop, if ppl keep discussing it just drop our of the convo and let them talk to themselves it will get boring for everyone then!
The power is in your hands since your the one that seems to be the inspiration for all the stress, no matter if it's intended or not...if you stop contributing, it will die!

---

posted August 08, 2014 01:08 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Gabby:
I saw your apology as genuine and it appeared several others did also!! Good job!
Just let this drop, if ppl keep discussing it just drop our of the convo and let them talk to themselves it will get boring for everyone then!
The power is in your hands since your the one that seems to be the inspiration for all the stress, no matter if it's intended or not...if you stop contributing, it will die!

---

Thanks Gabby

Yes it seems like I'm becoming really infamous already lol! It's funny. I never thought I would say that.

Well anyways, I'm leaving this thread now and going somewhere more welcoming and cozy (brown owl).

xx

posted August 08, 2014 01:29 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I just read this. Thank you, ID. The thing with asteroids is that one MUST research them as there is very little practical information about them in terms of how they operate in a chart and a person's life, which is the point of the whole thing.

I feel that the charts will yield up their wisdom if one is committing to doing them. The people who love Astrology and asteroids seem called to this journey out of pure love for the field.

I was expecting criticism because I get it a lot. People say, "HOW do you come to these conclusions?"

I humbly come to them from doing charts and I am, always, willing to amend any conclusions or theories. That is the nature of it imo

---

I think the criticism comes from an ingrained traditionalism; the fact that it doesn't operate the way we'd expect it to. It becomes complicated, given the arbitrary naming of asteroids.

But functionalism guides astrology only in the sense that we all arrive at the consensus of its operation. In a perfect world, all of these conclusions would be derived from proper research. I confess, my faith is in science and logic; the fact we CAN obtain FACTS from data-sets, which reveal the hidden nature of the 'arcane'.

For example, SADO. This is interesting.

Sado, the Japanese Island is less known than the principles of sadomasochism. Using the properties of functionalism, this WOULD tip SADO towards operating in the latter sense -- as more think of sadomasochism than they do the geographical location.

posted August 08, 2014 01:36 PM            

I just did a chart for a client. She did not want asteroids and did not believe in them so did not want to pay the chart fee for included asteroids.

That was cool but I like everyone to walk away feeling they got more than they expected so I did the asteroids anyway.

She was FLOORED.She said, "OMG, this is real". Then, she sent me a request to do an asteroid chart for her boyfriend

------------------
Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.

posted August 08, 2014 01:37 PM            

Read some of my articles in the Brown Owl and see if you have any questions!

------------------
Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.

posted August 08, 2014 02:07 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Get this, Guys.

I just did a chart for a client. She did not want asteroids and did not believe in them so did not want to pay the chart fee for included asteroids.

That was cool but I like everyone to walk away feeling they got more than they expected so I did the asteroids anyway.

She was FLOORED.She said, "OMG, this is real". Then, she sent me a request to do an asteroid chart for her boyfriend

---

posted August 08, 2014 02:20 PM            

------------------
Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.