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bjorkstrand
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posted August 09, 2014 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As said before there's just bad astrology here.
Bad science. Do the homework everybody.
Myths don't work.

Jim

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posted August 09, 2014 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
As said before there's just bad astrology here.
Bad science. Do the homework everybody.
Myths don't work.

Jim


Care to explain your answer?

Or just give cryptic responses that don't seem to be of relevance?
Or can you give examples of your so-called GOOD Astrology and GOOD Science if we have been doing it bad the whole time?
Hmm?
Demonstrate to the class, will you?
Please, we are the students and you are the supposed teacher.
So show us, there is no knowledge to be learnt if you're just being a presumptive braggart.

Karka.

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Astro keen
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posted August 09, 2014 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jim,

You're 16 aren't you? I remember you from a while back.

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posted August 09, 2014 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Jim,

You're 16 aren't you? I remember you from a while back.


I thought he was some 60-year-old man from the way he forms his sentences
idk if thats good or bad

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IndigoDirae
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posted August 09, 2014 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm voting that Jim's off in the other direction of the age spectrum myself. But, hey -- could be wrong.

In any case: asteroid delineation / operation in charts has nothing to do with physical mass. That's hardly bad science. It's also good philosophy.

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Astro keen
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posted August 09, 2014 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's definitely a young un. Was concerned about not finishing his homework not so long ago.

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posted August 09, 2014 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
He's definitely a young un. Was concerned about not finishing his homework not so long ago.

Wow! Another one. Goodness. I'd at least give the man his due (especially with signing everything 'Jim') if he had actually done his research. But I've found nothing regarding asteroid mass to have to do with a thing about its astrological value.

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posted August 09, 2014 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I thought he was some 60-year-old man from the way he forms his sentences
idk if thats good or bad

LOL Old people always sign internet comments with their names so I totally thought he was old too xD

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posted August 09, 2014 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
Yes it is exalted in virgo.

Seriously, are you going to really deny that?!

You modern astrologers are making your own little thing that disgraces the word "astrology". It's not what you "think" it's what it is. If you believe something is not exalted in a sign, then it's just your own thinking.

Exaltations don't happen because of necessarily which sign "suits" it the best.

Have you never read Ptolemy's reasons behind exaltations? Perhaps that would open your eyes a little.
http://sacred-texts.com/astro/ptb/ptb25.htm



Sorry but mercury isn't exalted in Virgo. So yes I am denying that.

All things, including religion are only half truths. The whole truth isn't presented to people who don't search beneath the surface.

To me, its pure common sense that Mercury a masculine sign is weak in Virgo. You learned that from reading from others. I know it from pure logical thinking and real astrology.


Mercury is best in Fire and Air signs. Period. Mercury isn't performing at its best in this sign, as you clearly demonstrate.

Perhaps you should gain some wisdom and refrain from impulsively responding because you sound completely immature and like you know everything when in fact you are just learning about life and its hit you too hard and now you feel you need to go out and teach others how it is. Sorry little lady but you should learn to think before you talk.

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posted August 09, 2014 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Wow! Another one. Goodness. I'd at least give the man his due (especially with signing everything 'Jim') if he had actually done his research. But I've found nothing regarding asteroid mass to have to do with a thing about its astrological value.

Arguments and evidence don't seem to work with him - he's been on this particular hobby horse since the start. Unless he's doing this for fun!

He should read this recent thread on sizes. Could be that Soren is Jim. Both Canadian. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/003004.html

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Ami Anne
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posted August 09, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, BW

Virgo seems to have a pain core to me.

When I delve into Virgo venus, for example, it feels like the pain of trying to find perfect love. Virgo Sun has the pain of trying to do a perfect job.


Virgo is so very anal lol

Chiron resonates pain because it is the planet of pain.

Both of these resonate in a similar way to me

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bjorkstrand
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posted August 09, 2014 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not 16, i'm 10.
All these objects are not asteroids and never have a H value of 6.2(chiron),they are way bigger.
You got a lot homework to do.LOL

HORMONE LAYER
NUMBER NAME PERIOD OP C H MEANING
YR # #
(119951) 2002 KX14 (243)08 1 4.5 WORK?
(120348) 2004 TY364(244)06 1 4.3 IQ
(175113) 2004 PF115(245)07 1 4.2 ?
2003 UZ413(245)10 1 4.3 LIGHTNING
(144897) 2004 UX10 (245)15 1 4.5
(90482) Orcus (245)15 1 2.3 DEATH
(84922) 2003 VS2 (247)08 1 4.2 SURRENDER
(208996) 2003 AZ84 (247)07 1 3.8 FANATIC
(38628) Huya (247)07 1 4.7 NASTY?
2002 XV93 (248)10 1 4.9 ?
2007 JH43 (249)07 1 4.7 ?
(47171) 1999 TC36 (250)06 1 4.7 ?
(28978) Ixion (250)12 1 3.2 TO DIE FOR
(134340) Pluto (251)78 1 -0.7 POWER & SEX

(145452) 2005 RN43 (267)13 21 3.9 DOCTOR
2008 AP129(270)06 22 4.5 ?
2002 MS4 (270)12 22 3.7 JOKER
(24835) 1995 SM55 (273)10 24 4.8 LOVE
(90568) 2004 GV9 (274)06 24 4.0 CREATION
(120347) Salacia (275)11 25 4.3 MEDIA

(55637) 2002 UX25 (281)09 31 3.6 ORDER
(145453) 2005 RR43 (282)07 31 4.0 NERVE
(120178) 2003 OP32 (283)06 32 4.1 OPTIC
(55636) 2002 TX300(284)07 35 3.3 AUDIO
(20000) Varuna (284)13 36 3.6 MATERIALISM
(308193) 2005 CB79 (284)07 36 4.7 ?
(50000) Quaoar (285)16 33 2.5 EUREKA
(202421) 2005 UQ513(285)09 37 3.4 E CONDUCTOR
(136108) Haumea (285)12 37 0.2 SYNAPSE(IQ)
2010 VK201(286)03 37 4.6 davinci
(19308) 1996TO66 (287)09 37 4.5
2004 NT33 (289)11 37 4.4 DNA?

2009 YE7 (297)03 4 4.4 FACEBOOK
2000 CN105(300)09 4 5.0 ?
(174567) 2003 MW12 (309)12 4 3.4 LOVE
(136472) Makemake (309)09 4 -0.3 TIME
(19521) Chaos (309)11 4 4.8 LIMITS+
2010 KZ39 (310)02 4 4.0 ?
2007 XV50 (314)04 4 4.9 ?
2002 CY248(316)07 4 4.9 ?
2010 FX86 (319)02 4 4.3 KARMA
(230965) 2004 XA192(321)04 4 4.0 PEOPLE

(55565) 2002 AW197(327)07 5 3.3 MUSIC
(278361) 2007 JJ43 (332)05 5 3.2 SOUND
(119979) 2002 WC19 (334)09 5 4.9 ?
2013 FZ27 (336)03 5 4.0 ?
2010 RF43 (348)02 5 4.1 REFLEXOLOGY
2003 QX113(349)06 5 4.7 ?
(42301) 2001 UR163(368)06 5 4.2 IQ

(84522) 2002 TC302(410)06 6 3.9 LIGHT
(26375) 1999 DE9 (418)10 6 5.1 ?
2004 XR190(438)05 6 4.4 FAITH
(82075) 2000 YW134(445)08 6 4.8 ?
2013 FY27 (455)02 6 3.0 ?

2010 TJ (504)03 7 5.0 PREDICTION
2010 RE64 (510)02 7 4.3 REINCARNATION?
2006 QH181(551)03 7 4.3 PARANOIA
(225088)2007 OR10 (553)06 7 1.9 FEAR OF DEATH

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MiaPluto
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posted August 09, 2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Sorry but mercury isn't exalted in Virgo. So yes I am denying that.

All things, including religion are only half truths. The whole truth isn't presented to people who don't search beneath the surface.

To me, its pure common sense that Mercury a masculine sign is weak in Virgo. You learned that from reading from others. I know it from pure logical thinking and real astrology.


Mercury is best in Fire and Air signs. Period. Mercury isn't performing at its best in this sign, as you clearly demonstrate.

Perhaps you should gain some wisdom and refrain from impulsively responding because you sound completely immature and like you know everything when in fact you are just learning about life and its hit you too hard and now you feel you need to go out and teach others how it is. Sorry little lady but you should learn to think before you talk.


I can't believe this. I don't know if I should laugh about it be angry about such ignorance.

MERCURY IS EXALTED IN VIRGO.

FULL STOP.

No pathetic 'reason' can convince me otherwise.

Instead of making your own astrology, you need to learn a little about it.

Planets are NEVER categorized into male or female.

Every planet is given two signs, 1 nocturnal, the other diurnal, except for the luminaries (sun and moon), which are given 1 each.

Mercury = Gemini (diurnal), Virgo (Nocturnal)
Venus = Libra (diurnal), Taurus (Nocturnal)

And so on......

I can't believe I even have to teach such a basic thing to you.

I gave a link on Ptolemy's exaltation reasoning. It will do you some good to read it.

People with mercury in virgo are very clever, and have the most common sense out of the other signs. Mercury does well in gemini too, since mercury is a fast planet and so is gemini, they can multi-task.

Astrology comes from way before jesus christ was born (or if he even existed). Whoever introduced astrology, they knew something that we could have never found out. It comes from even before the egyptians, etc.

You should watch Santo Bonacci's videos on youtube.

We're just beginning to come out of the dark ages, we have a loooonngg way before we achieve 100% consciousness.

We, with our minuscule consciousness cannot make decisions or conclusions base on astrology, which is something that which to understand, we need 100% consciousness.

The ancient texts because of which, fortunately, we have some clue about what it is, and a little bit of how it works, we know what we can about astrology, which originates from the previous golden ages when knowledge was clear at 100%.

I cannot tell you, how stupid it sounds to me, reasons like "mercury does well only in air and fire signs, blah, blah, blah".

We can never, ever, consciously understand what astrology IS.

It's still a mystery. No one knows the reason/logic behind it because it's too much beyond our understand.

Mercury is exalted in virgo for a REASON.

And just because YOU don't understand it, doesn't mean it NOT !!!

I can't believe I even had to explain such an obvious thing.

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posted August 09, 2014 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg! We've got two gremlins! Baby ones.

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posted August 09, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, AtheneGoddess,

Can you tell me some of your experiences, achievements or some proof for your professionalism and fixed conclusions you believe so much in, in astrology?

Your post about your reason for mercury being weak in virgo is very amusing and would like to share with some professional astrologers I know.

There's an astrologer called christopher warnock who makes talismans on planets according to their exaltations/domiciles and many other things, he has a business that works very well and successfully, so I think him or other qualified astrologers would find it quite amusing.

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posted August 09, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Omg! We've got two gremlins! Baby ones.

If you think a 16 year old teenager is a baby or a "gremlin" then you must either be very, very old (slow brain), or maybe you perceive them as being 'stupid' or inexperienced babies because you may have been yourself when you were my age.

You really underestimate people by age. This only reflects your own maturity. You discriminate people by age.

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posted August 09, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
As said before there's just bad astrology here.
Bad science. Do the homework everybody.
Myths don't work.

Jim


Who's post here are you exactly referring to?

Mine or Indigo and friends?

Or did you even read what we're talking about?

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posted August 09, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good grief...I can certainly understand Indigo's outrage...

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posted August 09, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Athene you are aware that you are insulting everyone who has mercury in virgo ??

This thread should be closed. This is all ridiculous and has been going on for days now.

People need to learn to just drop things.

There are different types of intelligence, many different types. Mercury in virgo is not weak by your logic then cancer been a feminine sign then mercury is exalted in cancer. The bottom line is however that there are very smart people with mercury in all 12 signs bc there are different types of intelligence and you have to look at aspects and asteroids as well.

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Someone close this thread already!

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MiaPluto
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posted August 09, 2014 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Athene you are aware that you are insulting everyone who has mercury in virgo ??

This thread should be closed. This is all ridiculous and has been going on for days now.

People need to learn to just drop things.

There are different types of intelligence, many different types. Mercury in virgo is not weak by your logic then cancer been a feminine sign then mercury is exalted in cancer. The bottom line is however that there are very smart people with mercury in all 12 signs bc there are different types of intelligence and you have to look at aspects and asteroids as well.

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Someone close this thread already!


Don't worry amelia, I'm sure those with mercury in virgo are intelligent enough to not take athenagoddess's comment/remark personally. Rather, I think they'll just find it amusing.

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posted August 09, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Good grief...I can certainly understand Indigo's outrage...

I wonder what it is that you believe that someone said to make Indigo enraged? Do you think you can be more direct?

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posted August 09, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
I wonder what it is that you believe that someone said to make Indigo enraged? Do you think you can be more direct?

xx


You have an "exalted" Mercury in Virgo (square Pluto), perhaps you could figure that out...Perhaps.

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posted August 09, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
You have an "exalted" Mercury in Virgo (square Pluto), perhaps you could figure that out...Perhaps.

You're right, of course I already knew what you meant.. I just wanted to see if you had enough guts to say it directly. But either you didn't have the guts or you didn't understand my sarcasm.

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posted August 09, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 09, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Sorry but mercury isn't exalted in Virgo. So yes I am denying that.

Honestly, it's a tricky, old-school thing. It's only an essential exaltation in 15° Virgo.

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