posted February 11, 2011 10:26 AM            

I have never felt an amoral or even sadistic energy in my relationship with my mother, ever, (and I tend to be very attuned to the deep undercurrents of relationships in general) but I really believe the sole reason for that is the fact both our valentines are conjunct exact in our synastry chart(among other very strongly placed love asteroids in our synastry). I personally feel that she is one of my deepest soulmates. She has sacrificed her own personal happiness and well-being for my sake on so many occasions that I practically owe her my first born child. j/k. But, seriously, she has been there for me in a way that no other person has ever been when I have gone through several personal crises. And I was there for her and nursed her when she went through several depressions and was suicidal.

posted February 11, 2011 11:00 AM            

When I see all the nessusconnection I've in my chart and to the people I love... and when I also study others people connection with nessus,,,, I must say I think the strange interpreting of nessus feels exaggerated.

I cant either see all the strong bad nessus connection when I check out chart on dangerous, sick people. Maybee someone have see an pattern in that but I've not. Maybee 2 or 4 sick dangerous people in our world have bad nessus aspect but we are more in our world with bad nessus aspect... I see axaggerated thougts of bad and frightened importance of nessus.

posted February 11, 2011 12:44 PM            

I just want to explore Nessus in relationships so we can all learn together

Please ,write about your relationship in as much detail as you can. I want to try to feel it out.
I am psychic ,as well lol

posted February 12, 2011 04:36 AM            

with any placement or aspect,

free will is the ultimate factor

Nessus does have its positive side like healthy use of sexual energy and lending a person a hand

that's what Philip Sedgwick wrote for positive keywords for Nessus

lets not forget

if it wasn't for Nessus, Heracles wouldn't have gone to Mount Olympus and became a God along with being finally accepted by Hera who hated his guts since his birth for being Zeus' son by Alcmene. Heracles was given Hebe as his wife by Zeus with Hera's blessing.

In a way, Nessus bringing about Heracles physical death was a great thing.

in other words,
Nessus can be about one's mortality changing into something immortal

that fits with it being a bridge between Saturn and Pluto

The Underworld wasn't a dark scary place in Greek mythology
almost all souls went to the Underworld

Tartarus was the place in the Underworld where all the bad souls went to get punished

Elysian Fields was the place in the Underworld where all the good souls went to live in serenity and peace

the astrologer proposing the name,Nessus and it being accepted by astronomers also fits with Nessus in regards to it being the bridge between the physical and the metaphysical.

just focusing on Nessus' myth as about the attempted rape of Dejeianira overlooks a lot of the myth

The story of Nessus was also about Heracles ascending to Godhood after going through excruciating pain, tearing off his human flesh, and being burnt with his fire burning away all his flesh and his ascending to Mount Olympus to live as an immortal. His human half purged, leaving only his immortal half.

It was like his 12 labors that he did. They were tasks that only somebody like him can do. Through all that hard work, he gained fame and glory.

Nessus myth is about the end of Heracles' physical life and the beginning of Heracles' metaphysical life.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 12, 2011 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
Oh dear, I recently discovered I had a Nessus conj Asc with a person with whom O clicked as frends and even romantically but in the process I felt strongly emotionally and psychologically abused. (his Nessus/my Asc) - and its not the only Nessus aspect we share but its the prominent one.
Now I have an exact Nessus trine with sb else 9his Nessus/my Sun) and I am a bit wary as to how it ll be played out. His Nessus also exactly squares my Saturn and Neptune among others.
I dont know what to make of this as there seems to be confusion with how Nessus is 'felt'/interpreted although I am pretty sure about the connection to Ascendant.

What are your thoughts on this?

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*I* think the real,deep Nessus "work" I am talking about is mainly the exact conjunctions.
With the other aspects, you would get flavors of Nessus depending on how close the aspects are.
With trines and sextile, things work out in a beneficial way.
With squares and oppositions ,it is a struggle .
That does not mean it is "bad".

Having a Nessus relationship does NOT have to be bad.
It can be THE most healing relationship of your life.
How the relationship will end is not what I am talking about when I say the "best" relationship.
It could end badly,and may,if it is strongly Nessus,but you have the opportunity to heal.

For you, to cut all this down to the quick. Your current relationship is not what *I* could call a "Nessus" relationship cuz you do not have the exact conjunctions as you did with the prior relationship.
That one, I would call a Nessus relationship.
I can tell how deeply it effected you from how you talk about it lol

posted February 12, 2011 09:23 AM            

I WAS affected in the Asc conjunction one - in a strange way, as if my vulnerable other self was being ripped out of me and stood before me to scrutinize...I guess I could say it was an experience that helped me overall. I was affected even though it was a long-distance fling/friendship - and no, it wasnt lust/love/pining...just a feeling that whatever he meant/didnt mean for me, he could get under my skin...

posted February 12, 2011 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
Thanks alot for your input Ami
I do believe, too, that the Asc exact conjunction was the 'real' painful deal...the current one, the exact trine with sun (and the squares with saturn, neptune-exact) is fresh so I do not know how it will unfold...the 'healing' part is worth pondering...also, my Nessus squares his Moon (and i think i have some other aspects as well but do not remember).
Who do you think is the 'healer'/'abuser' in Nessus contacts? I would think clearly the Nessus one - but what if MY Nessus makes an aspect or too as well? Do we go by hard aspects > soft ones? Is it reciprocal?

I WAS affected in the Asc conjunction one - in a strange way, as if my vulnerable other self was being ripped out of me and stood before me to scrutinize...I guess I could say it was an experience that helped me overall. I was affected even though it was a long-distance fling/friendship - and no, it wasnt lust/love/pining...just a feeling that whatever he meant/didnt mean for me, he could get under my skin...

PS. I hope you find my posts helpful for your Nessus research

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Dear Anemone
You are the poster girl for my perfect research subject

IQ,our beloved astrologer ,does not count an aspect that is more than a 2 degree orb.
A square/opposition/trine etc is not as strong as a conjunction ,in the first place.
If you want to come back and list the orbs of your aspects ,we can talk about them.
However, they will never be what the prior relationship was,I don't think.

Nessus is God's way of allowing us to heal,I think lol

posted February 12, 2011 10:24 AM            

There is a two fold thing going on with Nessus,imo.

posted February 12, 2011 04:05 PM            

B-Guy:
His Nessus tr. my Sun (0s)
His Nessus sq. my Saturn (1a)
His Nessus sq. my Neptune (0a)
His Nessus conj. my Lilith (1s)
My Nessus tr. his Merc (2s)
My Nessus tr. his Saturn (0s)
My Nessus sext. his Pluto (1a)
It shows that my Nessus sextiles his Ascendant as well but I dont know exact birthtime, only approximately because I know the ascendant...
There are also exact sesquisquares and quintiles, plus some other trines and squares but of more degrees...moreover, astro.com allows for a specific number of objects only so I dont know if we have many more...I feel that it matters most when it aspects personal planets and ascendant correct?

Here you go...you tell....

posted February 13, 2011 08:07 AM            

PS I am not saying you are looking for a fight or trying to go there but *I* WON'T.

posted February 13, 2011 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
LOL @poster girl!
I can live with that :P
ok, the A-guy's points with me:
His Nessus sq. my Merc (3s)
His Nessus tr. my Uranus (1s)
His Nessus opp. my NN (3s)
His Nessus conj. my Juno (0s)
His Nessus sext. my Chiron (3s)
His Nessus conj. my Eros (0s)
His Nessus sq. my Karma (0s)
His Nessus sext. my Aphrodite (0s)
His Nessus sext. my Siva (3s)
Nis Nessus conj. my Ascendant (3s)-->i just noticed 'The Aspect' is 3s..
My Nessus sq. his Saturn (1s)

B-Guy:
His Nessus tr. my Sun (0s)
His Nessus sq. my Saturn (1a)
His Nessus sq. my Neptune (0a)
His Nessus conj. my Lilith (1s)
My Nessus tr. his Merc (2s)
My Nessus tr. his Saturn (0s)
My Nessus sext. his Pluto (1a)
It shows that my Nessus sextiles his Ascendant as well but I dont know exact birthtime, only approximately because I know the ascendant...
There are also exact sesquisquares and quintiles, plus some other trines and squares but of more degrees...moreover, astro.com allows for a specific number of objects only so I dont know if we have many more...I feel that it matters most when it aspects personal planets and ascendant correct?

Here you go...you tell....

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Dear Friend
It is hard to compare these lists. I would say that the guy with the ASC/Nessus conjunction would be the strongest cuz the conjunction trumps the other aspects even though it is not exact.

For you to consider ,with the other aspects,the closest ones are the strongest.

*I* would not classify something a Nessus relationship unless there were exact conjunctions.
One does not need to freak out with a Nessus relationship,either.
It can be the deepest relationship ,ever.
Can it be good?
I would think so.
Kat has a good one,now.

posted February 13, 2011 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
LOL @poster girl!
I can live with that :P
ok, the A-guy's points with me:
His Nessus sq. my Merc (3s)
His Nessus tr. my Uranus (1s)
His Nessus opp. my NN (3s)
His Nessus conj. my Juno (0s)
His Nessus sext. my Chiron (3s)
His Nessus conj. my Eros (0s)
His Nessus sq. my Karma (0s)
His Nessus sext. my Aphrodite (0s)
His Nessus sext. my Siva (3s)
Nis Nessus conj. my Ascendant (3s)-->i just noticed 'The Aspect' is 3s..
My Nessus sq. his Saturn (1s)

B-Guy:
His Nessus tr. my Sun (0s)
His Nessus sq. my Saturn (1a)
His Nessus sq. my Neptune (0a)
His Nessus conj. my Lilith (1s)
My Nessus tr. his Merc (2s)
My Nessus tr. his Saturn (0s)
My Nessus sext. his Pluto (1a)
It shows that my Nessus sextiles his Ascendant as well but I dont know exact birthtime, only approximately because I know the ascendant...
There are also exact sesquisquares and quintiles, plus some other trines and squares but of more degrees...moreover, astro.com allows for a specific number of objects only so I dont know if we have many more...I feel that it matters most when it aspects personal planets and ascendant correct?

Here you go...you tell....

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Dear Friend
It is hard to compare these lists. I would say that the guy with the ASC/Nessus conjunction would be the strongest cuz the conjunction trumps the other aspects even though it is not exact.

For you to consider ,with the other aspects,the closest ones are the strongest.

*I* would not classify something a Nessus relationship unless there were exact conjunctions.
One does not need to freak out with a Nessus relationship,either.
It can be the deepest relationship ,ever.
Can it be good?
I would think so.
Kat has a good one,now.