posted February 14, 2011 01:08 PM            

If one's own Nessus is repressed,synastry can bring it out and good lol

posted February 14, 2011 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Hey Ami nessuslover

My thought about nessus are that is not so important and so dangerous as it looks like. I've also checked out the chart from the world there we have our dangerous people and I cant see the pattern like some talk about it here on L.L....That's the reality 2011. I just must check out all this because I've my nessus hard aspected and I cant imagine my self like this. I'm so far away from all that so...

I live with nessus and I'm not dangerous and will never be. I will not hurt my self or anyone else. It feels like I work on a better and better life to all the people I love and to my self and through my self. I've done it so much so I see this like an big part of my life.

I feel. I really feel. It sometimes feels like I also feel other peoples feelings. In time I'm not sure if the feelings are from someone else or from my self. I can feel other peoples pain like my own. I'm medial. My way in the life guieds by what I feel. My life feels very karmic. Sometimes everything and every events feels like it's meant to be. My driving force looks like passion which triggs through my t-square. My t-square bring me the driving force I need to work out my chart. Without my t-square I think the flow will be nothing. No my moon/nessus works hard and also be visible to everyone and ....

My moon also in almost exactly parallel to my natal pluto.
My moon/nessus also in trine to my N psyche.

My DRACONIC moon/nessus conj saturn= the karmic feeling of moon/nessus way in the life.

MyDRACONIC merk 6/uran7/kaali8 conj my Natal moon/nessus= My feelings also here got an meaning of working out on a more deeply level.

My sons S.N are also in conj to my N moon and nessus.
My sons nessus conj my N Sun/AC
My daughters nessus conj karma conj my merk/uran/kaali/pluto.

In my life everyone I love contact nessus in someway in tight orb.
My first husbands BML or asteroid lilith
My second husbands BML or asteroid lilith. I just now cant remember who of thems .
My on and off relationships nessus conj my moon/nessus. His dejanira trine our moon/nessus/nessus.
The man I met now later. His Draconic moon conj my moon/nessus. This is strange....but true.

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Keep in mind that Nessus has its positives too. It's not all bad.

Philip Sedgwick posted preliminary keywords
of Nessus that were both negative and positive.

I explained the mythology of Nessus it went beyond rape. Nessus served as an agent of Heracles' becoming immortal.

The Centaurs were the grandsons of Ixion, and they were known for being lusty like their grandfather. They were known for attempting rape,raping females. It wasn't just Nessus.

Nessus stands alone as being instrumental in the death of Heracles and Heracles ascension to Mount Olympus and transformation as an immortal.

The astrologers that named Nessus took that into consideration when they proposed the name, Nessus after considering the astronomical,orbital features and thinking that the mythology of Nessus fit.

They realized that Nessus had a Saturn-Plutonian nature. It's the bridge between Saturn and Pluto. Saturn/Pluto midpoint is Nessus-sensitive. That means that aspects to the Saturn/Pluto midpoint is like aspects to Nessus.

Chiron is the bridge between Saturn and Uranus. Saturn/Uranus midpoint is Chiron-sensitive.

Pholus is the bridge between Saturn and Neptune. Saturn/Neptune midpoint is Pholus-sensitive.

Just knowing those things give you a good idea of how Chiron, Pholus, and Nessus works.

Melanie Reinhart wrote a book on the centaurs, Chiron,Pholus,and Nessus.

She was one of the astrologers who proposed the name, Nessus to astronomers.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 14, 2011 01:55 PM            

Jupiter/Zeus was well known as philanderer and raping women.

Neptune/Poseidon too. He even raped his sister, Demeter/Ceres

Apollo raped a female, and the female gave up the son who turned out to be a priest of Apollo

Pluto/Hades raped Proserpina/Persephone

There was a lot of misogyny in the Greek myths.

if we focus on Nessus as rape and sexual abuse

Well

why not Jupiter, Neptune, and Pluto
well..a lot of people do focus on Pluto as rape and sexual abuse
definitely not Jupiter and Neptune

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 14, 2011 04:39 PM            

Thank you for that personal story. Do you think I am right on with the defintion of a Nessus relationship ?
If so,yes?
If not, how so?

Thank you xxx

posted February 14, 2011 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
The most happy couple I know are my aunt and her husband. They have been married from that she was 16. She is 78 today.
They have an nessus square venus DW in theirs synastry.

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Wow popcorn...that is awesome! She was married at 16? How old was your Grandfather at the time...if you don't mind me asking?

Kat

posted February 14, 2011 05:07 PM            

With it being a bridge between Saturn and Pluto, Nessus. Nessus is a Saturn-Pluto energy. It has qualities of Saturn and Pluto combined. Saturn/Pluto midpoint is Nessus-like.

As a transneptunian dwarf planet,
Pluto goes deeper than Nessus.
That's why it's an evolutionary intensified object.

Sedna would be the deepest with its greatest average distance by far.
With it being named after the Inuit Sea,Underworld Goddess whose home was the bottom of the frigid Arctic Ocean, the name fits with the astronomical,orbital features.

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posted February 14, 2011 07:05 PM            

I am pretty new to all of this, so I'm afraid that some of the discussion is going over my head

In my case, Deja is 29 Capricorn retrograde in my 4th house with no aspects that I can see.

However my sun (12 Gemini) is conjunct Nessus (13 Gemini) in my 9th house. Eek.

I have a history of totally bizarre childhood abuse from my mother (she was/is psychotic, poor soul) and have been in therapy for some years because of it. However, I am getting there - in fact, more than one psychologist has told me I must be exceptionally mentally stable otherwise I would have ended up in a loony bin *cough* mental hospital by now. My Dad was kind of there but not there - he did not intervene, and I realise now that it would only have gotten even worse if he had.

I don't think I have any violent or criminal tendencies myself at all.

posted February 14, 2011 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Alderica:
OK erm... copying from another thread at Ami's invitation

I am pretty new to all of this, so I'm afraid that some of the discussion is going over my head

In my case, Deja is 29 Capricorn retrograde in my 4th house with no aspects that I can see.

However my sun (12 Gemini) is conjunct Nessus (13 Gemini) in my 9th house. Eek.

I have a history of totally bizarre childhood abuse from my mother (she was/is psychotic, poor soul) and have been in therapy for some years because of it. However, I am getting there - in fact, more than one psychologist has told me I must be exceptionally mentally stable otherwise I would have ended up in a loony bin *cough* mental hospital by now. My Dad was kind of there but not there - he did not intervene, and I realise now that it would only have gotten even worse if he had.

I don't think I have any violent or criminal tendencies myself at all.

Any comments?

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Ok, Sweets.I am on it. Need a mind break and I will be back

posted February 14, 2011 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Alderica:
OK erm... copying from another thread at Ami's invitation

I am pretty new to all of this, so I'm afraid that some of the discussion is going over my head

In my case, Deja is 29 Capricorn retrograde in my 4th house with no aspects that I can see.

However my sun (12 Gemini) is conjunct Nessus (13 Gemini) in my 9th house. Eek.

I have a history of totally bizarre childhood abuse from my mother (she was/is psychotic, poor soul) and have been in therapy for some years because of it. However, I am getting there - in fact, more than one psychologist has told me I must be exceptionally mentally stable otherwise I would have ended up in a loony bin *cough* mental hospital by now. My Dad was kind of there but not there - he did not intervene, and I realise now that it would only have gotten even worse if he had.

I don't think I have any violent or criminal tendencies myself at all.

Any comments?

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Please check out my earlier posts about Nessus in this thread. They go over the astronomy and the mythology, and how they are connected.

The main thing about Nessus is that it is a centaur that links the orbit of Saturn and Pluto. It has a Saturn-Pluto influence. The Saturn/Pluto midpoint is Nessus-sensitive.

Nessus was the agent of Heracles ascension to Olympus and becoming immortal.

Nessus didn't just attempt to rape Deijaneira. He tricked Deijaneira into killing Heracles with his blood that was poisoned by the Hydra-blood dipped arrow that Heracles killed him with.

As the result of Heracles dying from the poisoned blood of Nessus and being burnt by fire to help him die, he ascended to Mount Olympus and became immortal. Hera made peace with Heracles. Zeus and Hera gave Hebe (their daughter) to Heracles for his wife.

some astrologers were aware of how the orbital,astronomical features of Nessus fit with its mythology. Therefore, they proposed the name, Nessus to astronomers. The name got accepted. It was the first object whose name was proposed by astrologers and accepted by astronomers. Again, another example of the bridge between the physical and the metaphysical.

Philip Sedgwick posted preliminary keywords for Nessus

Nessus: Ferryman at the River Evenus. Orbital Period: 120.76 yr.

Positive - generous, benevolent, compassionate, willing to lend a helping hand, cooperative, respectful of boundaries, aware of the power of life force energy, healthy use of sexual energy

Negative - coveting, possessive, jealous, vengeful, manipulative, resorting to negative alchemy for personal gain, negative use of sexual energy

Mundane - bad blood between parties, feuds over money especially regarding relationship dissolution, diseases transmitted by blood, transport ferries over water, potions, tonics and elixirs designed to cast spells, therapy specifically designed for healing sexual or monetary issues

Ceremonial - prosperity ceremonies, sexual healing rituals, ceremonies involving Earth fertility
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 15, 2011 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Alderica:
OK erm... copying from another thread at Ami's invitation

I am pretty new to all of this, so I'm afraid that some of the discussion is going over my head

In my case, Deja is 29 Capricorn retrograde in my 4th house with no aspects that I can see.

However my sun (12 Gemini) is conjunct Nessus (13 Gemini) in my 9th house. Eek.

I have a history of totally bizarre childhood abuse from my mother (she was/is psychotic, poor soul) and have been in therapy for some years because of it. However, I am getting there - in fact, more than one psychologist has told me I must be exceptionally mentally stable otherwise I would have ended up in a loony bin *cough* mental hospital by now. My Dad was kind of there but not there - he did not intervene, and I realise now that it would only have gotten even worse if he had.

I don't think I have any violent or criminal tendencies myself at all.

Any comments?

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Erm, I made a big mistake here... I forgot to consider my ascendant. Turns out that Deja in my chart forms a perfect trine with my ascendant at 29 Virgo *slaps self*

posted February 15, 2011 02:03 AM            

When that happens, then you can USE those lessons for good for you and for others.

posted February 15, 2011 02:09 AM            

If someone violates me, I do not scream and yell.I kick them in the groin and walk away

In order to be a whole ,healthy person ,we must incorporate all parts of the chart.
They are all parts of us.
Different people are called on to incorporate certain planets as a life task,if you will.
The chart, shows this by prominent placements of planets such as Nessus conjunct the sun or Saturn conjunct the ASC in my case.
No energy HAS to be bad.
God did not make anyone "bad".
We,each have unique challenges.
Some people have harder challenges shown by a very hard chart.
Some people have an easier chart but that chart could become hard if it is placed next to a parents chart such as what *I* have.

posted February 15, 2011 02:11 AM            

It is the springboard to your own form of greatness