posted July 20, 2014 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
you are right, it's not that impressive. How strange! It sounded so Uranian. His aspects are even stronger, BTW. I don't think that Taurus Moon opp Uranus was responsible for that feeling.

Then it must be Neptune!

like in the dream you had, with the chakra opening (Neptune exploding)

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Had he acted more like I expected him to, maybe I would not have felt like it. But in some weird way, and maybe he never even intended it, he made me suddenly aware that I was in fact a woman, after all.

Crazy realization for me.

It is probably just me being a hopeless case in social contact, but it seemed quite crazy to me. lol

Also I think there was a bit of Mercury-Neptune-conjunction going on there as well. CAuse he would suddenly in the middle of a sentence say a word or two, like it erupted out of him, Tommy Hilfiger was the word. And the girls who were still there hanging on his every word, looked at him as if he had lost his mind, totally blank faces, and I just was laughing and without missing a beat explaining to them: "The fragrance. He probably thinks he is smelling this."
Well he looked at me as if I had read his frigging mind (which I probably had, but that is beside the point), but seems I was right.
Anyway I somehow could NOT convince him that i really wasn`t having that fragrance. So he had to convince himself by sniffing at my hair, and even then he did not seem very convinced. He looked at me as if I was trying to keep the truth from him about me using this perfume.

Yeah, it WAS crazy, I did not just think it was, he simply was crazy.

Oh btw Neptune totally. of course a lot of Neptune there.

The first meetng chart itself had Neptune-Chiron-NN-conjunction on our composite Antivertex and Psyche and pr compospite Venus. THERE you have it.

Oh and I suspect the first meeting chart itself being responsible.

Plus you know we have a one degree Psyche-psyche-conjunction natally, right?
It will never separate from each other, walking step by step.

At that night our pr Psyche-Psyche-conjunction had come into conjunction with his natal Eros.

So who knows?

my pr Psyche on 7.49 Pisces
his n Eros on 8.21 Pisces
my name his chart 9.10 Pisces
his name his chart 10.26 Virgo

posted July 20, 2014 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, indeed, I was thinking before making the thread that luminaries MUST feel things rather soon if not immediately. Of course, angles too. I'm curious about this angle to angle angle to NN angle to vertex thing. I hope people will be interested in the thread and bring their examples. And hard aspects, of course. (yes, I agree with you, conjunctions and oppositions: I'm thinking only certain squares are felt immediately, like Venus square Mars, or some Uranus to luminaries, Venus perhaps)

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Any square with a strongly masculine activating planet to personal planets might be felt very quickly,s o I definitely agree on Uranus and Mars-squares especailly.
I also think Jupiter-squares are felt, but lack the edginess of Mars and Uranus,
Pluto will also be felt soon, you probably will just not know, he likes to operate underground after all.

But come to think I suppose, I should not underestimate his Pluto exactly squaring my Vertex, EROS, Sun/Moon-mp

especially since it activates Moon-Mars in composite.

composite Moon being conj. my Sun/moon-m,p, Avx and opp. Eros

composite Mars fallng onto his Pluto.

BTW his pr Juno was on 21 Cancer RIGHT on this axis

and tr Juno on 26 Sag on his Sun, Moon, MC, Sun/Moon-mp, composite Sun, which I find interesting as it mirrored his progressed IC on natal Juno.

(I was having a Jupiter thing going on, with Tr Jupitr on composite MOon and my n Sun/Moon-mp, haven`t checked Jupiter progressions - well that is ABSURD

my pr Jupiter was on 16.58 Pisces conjunct my n Juno on 16.58 Pisces. lol)

posted July 20, 2014 03:25 PM            

As to first impression ... well, that's an easy one, as it'll never fade. Not in a million years.

I was running past a room in an -- alternative lifestyle club, shall we say -- and really wouldn't have stopped, had I not thought I caught out of the corner of my eye, a man with all of the matching features, and dressed identically to a character I'd created over a decade ago. (To be fair, it's just a polished cotton burgundy button-down shirt with black slacks -- but it was the exact colour, style, and garment of the one our costuming had chosen for our first promo shoot ages ago. Nonetheless, I hadn't seen it since. On anyone. Especially not a tall blonde man.)

And he was seated upon the floor with two young women in parlour dresses straight out of Victoriana.

When you're in Los Angeles, you learn very quickly -- if you should so happen to stumble upon a match for a character in your project -- you approach them. Period. And, good lord -- what a match!

I wander in looking the worst I had in probably weeks, as I was tired, under the weather, and only there to pass out my new business cards, and was right on my way out. I'm essentially dressed in all black with nothing special; my old 'work clothes' when I was assistant stage manager for a company out here. 'Blending in', so to speak.

He takes immediate notice of me, and I see he has the most insanely perfect posture I'm pretty sure I've ever seen, and absolutely chilling blue eyes -- the kind from which you almost have to look away, because they somehow strip you bare of EVERYTHING. It wasn't his look -- he was completely friendly. Soft-smiling, even. But the eyes -- good God, the eyes were running a whole separate agenda -- or so it felt to me.

Fortunately, a few seconds later, I found my words. But I was a bit startled by the sheer insanity of it all, so, rather than introduce myself like a normal sane person, piling on the propriety, ohhhh, no. I just said:

' ... What are you doing here?'

TO A COMPLETE STRANGER. Not, 'Hi there! I'm me. Pleased to meet you. Who're you?' No! I ask the man, with this bit of a snickering surprise -- WHAT he's DOING ... HERE.

Don't ask me why I chose THESE words -- I have NO idea. Never will. It's one of the (many) mysteries we chalk up to being 'because of how it is' -- whatever that means. We've given up trying to figure it out, or make it make sense.

I deserved what I got, really. REALLY. I had.

Without missing a beat, his face breaks out into a smile which is no longer soft, but mildly terrifying. It's the eyes. I can tell he's going for exuberance -- but missing it by a mile and ending up somewhere in The Kubrick Stare. Heh. (He always means well.) He gestures grandly, and, sparing NO amount of scoffing or mockery --

'Why, we're having tea, my dear!'

Yep. That's right. On 27 January 2010, at 22:06, in Hollywood, California -- I had THIS exchange:

' ... What are you doing here?'
'Why, we're having tea, my dear!'

And this is how I met my costar.

He was, indeed, indulging the two Victoriana-dressed women in a pretend tea party, (because, reasons) and wasn't even going to go that night, but he was meeting his friend -- who was actually my roommate -- which is whom I was actually after in my mad dash out of the place -- when I stopped, and took in THAT bizarre sight.

Our tightest hard aspect synastry? Are you ready?

MADHATTER conjunct PSYCHE -- and only because it's applying 0º30, rather than the MARS conjunct PLUTO, which is still tighter (0º20) -- but separating.

So we kinda bounce back and forth between MADHATTER-PSYCHE, and PLUTO-MARS.

That about describes it pretty well, actually.

His MARS is hella configured in his chart, (all within 1º) and you already know my PLUTO.

He's also got MADHATTER parallel his SUN and DSC. His PSYCHE (as we have a DW) is conjunct my MADHATTER as well, along with my ASC and VENUS.

We're apparently all mad there.

posted July 20, 2014 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That first meeting actually was a soul-shock, or system-shock to me. I did not expect it to be, but it was, sudden, surprising, compelling. And afterwards I remember I was feeling like I was maybe getting a stroke or surely dying, cause my perception / consciousness suddenly were working on a different level. Oh and that shaking and electrifying feeling of course. I suppose I must have been experiencing some form of Kundalini Rising or something like that.
Certainly memorable night. lol

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posted July 20, 2014 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What does his Mercury rule? I'm sure you must have felt Sun/Sun with such an orb.

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Yes, I certainly feel his Sun on my Sun quite strongly. First thing that shot through my mind, when I saw him (second thing actually, but the first one is too embarassing to tell) was "You remind me of who I really am." lol
Or actually a feeling of that is how I *could* have been, which made for this strange feeling of familiarity cause even though I might not really express myself the way he does, he seems to express a lot outwardly what I feel inside.

Anyway Mercury?

posted July 20, 2014 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Same exact feeling here.
His uranus conjunct my vertex
Sun opp sun
Pluto conjunct venus
NN conjunct my Dsc
I felt it!

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Tightest I have with my Twin is his ASC on my VX, 0º10.

I don't know how to describe that outside of 'everything stopped and zeroed to a fine, fine point, after which everything would NEVER be remotely the same.'

posted July 20, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Tightest I have with my Twin is his ASC on my VX, 0º10.

I don't know how to describe that outside of 'everything stopped and zeroed to a fine, fine point, after which everything would NEVER be remotely the same.'
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posted July 20, 2014 04:10 PM            

As for Valentine.
Valentine- Vx, Valentine-Saturn, Valentine-Juno DW.
though neither exact nor conjunctions. Still intresting I thought.

Valentine trine Vertex (1)
Vertex sextile Valentine (0)

Valentine trine Juno (2)
Juno trine Valentine (0)

Valentine trine Saturn (2)
Saturn sextile Valentine (0)

resulting in composite:

Valentine square Saturn 1.44
Valentine square Vertex 1.19
Valentine opposite Juno 1.15
Saturn conjunct Vertex 3.09
Saturn square Juno 0.29
Vertex square Juno 2.35

Valentine 23 Scorpio in 10th
Juno 22 Taurus in 4th
Saturn 21 Leo in 7th
Vertex 24 Leo in 7th

Yes, those very harmonious synastric Double Whammies (sextile and trine) binding themselves together into a T-square, all 4th harmonic aspects

Which mathematically is logical as if you combine sextile and trine you get 180° and dividing it by 2 (because 2 people nvolved) you end up with 90°, hence a square- pattern.

But what does it mean for hte interpretation of composite aspects? I mean in general?

posted July 20, 2014 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Yes yes yes.
DW valentine chart ruler??? Yowzers...
I wish I had his birth time...Darn it.

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Yes.

VALENTINE conjunct MERCURY (2º)
URANUS conjunct VALENTINE (1º)

posted July 20, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think I feel my Moon opposite mars a lot, and also my mars square uranus even though it's out of signs.
I think I have a drive and energy enough for 5 people. And I'm also very unpredictable, so is my life, and it has always been like that. I really feel my mars and uranus aspect a lot in life…. my neptune square mercury is the closest aspect I got in my natal, and I think I feel that on a daily basis. It's just a part of me, I don't even think about it so much anymore. I have a lively imagination, like to tell stories (and overdramatize them), I like to tell people what they want to hear to a certain extend.

In synastry with my boyfriend I have no doubt about that it must be our close Venus square Uranus(below 1 degree). Cause the first time I met him I loved him. And no I'm not lying lol! It was very electrifying the moment I saw him, it was like he was the one I had been looking for all my life…
Even though it's not a close aspect I also think I can feel our Sun opposite moon (5 degrees), cause I always get attracted by his soft pisces moon, it feels like no matter what he does, I can only focus on how cute he is lol… maybe it is also our close sun square neptune that is playing with my mind… that could very likely be true, and sun square neptune is our very closest aspect in synastry. I know it's a heavy aspect, but it's also very romantic and dreamy, and I like that cause of my own pisces moon!

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posted July 20, 2014 05:10 PM            

my Sun and Mercury are conjunct his Venus/Uranus-mp, but does that really count that much?

Oh and funny enough it is conjunct my Moon/Uranus-mp

which means his ASC squares my Moon/Uranus-mp

hmmmmm

his Moon/Uranus conjuncts my NN and squares my Jupiter

and interestingly enough the moment we met Tr ASC was conjunct this

his Sun/Uranus even PRECISELY conjuncts my NN (no orb!)

posted July 20, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Yes.

VALENTINE conjunct MERCURY (2º)
URANUS conjunct VALENTINE (1º)

It's definitely intense; especially as we have MERC-VALENTINE DW.

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Do you think a valentine - vertex semi sextile can be felt?
His valentine- 3 leo
My vertex- 2 virgo

Never noticed it until just now...

posted July 20, 2014 11:03 PM            

With my husband, on the night I first saw him, he had:
-a progressed Pluto-Aphrodite conj. on his prog. AC, and tr. Mars was on it 0°
-prog. Mars in Scorpio with a tran. Pluto-Aphrodite conjunction on it 0°

This created a POWERFUL DW that made him look like pure walking, talking sex. His Natal Mars in Scorpio is opp. my Aphrodite 0°, and I think it was the first thing I felt because of those transits and progressions amplifying that type of energy.

With my Twin/Obsession/Addiction-whatever-label-fits the first thing I felt was hands down:
-My Chiron on his DC 0°.
Just seeing him felt like a tsunami of healing washed over me.
-His Venus-Jupiter conj. my Sun-Venus and opp. my Jupiter
Seeing his face just felt like pure Joy, and Seeing his smile was like being hit with the light of a million Suns.
The first time I heard his laugh, it was like the most beautiful music I'd ever heard in my life.

Probably all sounds corny, but that's what it felt like.

posted July 20, 2014 11:30 PM            

Is 5 degrees too wide for a node?

I swear I feel it like crazy but I'll give a breakdown as best I can if you're interested. There's a lot of things so it'll be tough. I'll have to think about it.

posted July 21, 2014 06:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I want Venus-Uranus, too!
Why is there none? With all that insane electricity there SHOULD be Uranus. Damn it!

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I could lend you Venus opposite Uranus exact from my synastry if you asked nicely

posted July 21, 2014 07:51 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Y. Of course, angles too. I'm curious about this angle to angle angle to NN angle to vertex thing.people will be interested in the thread and bring their examples. And hard aspects, of course. (yes, I agree with you, conjunctions and oppositions: I'm thinking only certain squares are felt immediately, like Venus square Mars, or some Uranus to luminaries, Venus perhaps)

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posted July 21, 2014 09:08 AM            

I don't think I can keep up with you all, especially not this time of morning before I've had my half gallon of coffee, and I'm way behind studying asteroids. But I felt like chiming in...coincidentally, I had been wondering about this same topic the other day.

Natally the closest aspects I can find right now are:

16.01 Gemini Mars
16.01 Aries Jupiter
15.48 Cap sun

6.35 Scorpio Uranus
6.36 Sag Venus

According to the Pullen charts at astro.com, Jupiter is my dominant planet, almost in a three-way tie with Mars and the sun. All masculine planets.

I don't look particularly masculine, and my demeanor in person is rather "feminine" in that I'm deferential and would rather listen than talk. I think what makes me come across as "masculine" is this quiet inner strength I have, and my level of comfort with men, as if I am "one of the guys." I better be comfortable with them ~ I have four brothers and four sons!

Being surrounded by men may be the legacy of an exact Mars-Jupiter sextile.

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My Venus-Uranus semisextile might represent the fact that my husband has an exact sun-Uranus conjunction, and I show up in public with him, or will soon be talking about my eccentric husband, after you meet me.

Also, his sun-Uranus is exactly trine Saturn, and I'm a Capricorn. So people will say of him, "There's that weird guy with the serious chick by his side." (And his Saturn is conjunct my Venus, if you can follow that.)

Interesting (meaningful?) that both of us have three planets in aspect by half a degree orb.

In composite, our tightest aspects are:

21 Cancer ASC (approx)
20.30 Cancer Mars
20.33 Cancer Juno
20.33 Virgo Pluto
21.26 Libra Venus
21.57 Virgo Uranus
21.20 Scorpio Neptune
22.25 Pisces BML

We got engaged after one date, much to the astonishment of everyone we knew. Especially since he had been a bachelor for so long, and we have a huge age difference. I attribute some of that to our Mars-Juno-ASC, plus transiting Pluto was exactly conjunct my Venus (7 minutes orb) and conjunct his Saturn (1 degree) at that time.

To match, the day we got married, tr Venus was exactly conjunct tr Saturn. We didn't plan that whatsoever. Additionally, tr Juno was conjunct tr Pluto, conjunct my Neptune.

We have a kite configuration in composite, with Pisces Chiron and BML at the apex, conjunct my natal moon. Jupiter was transiting conjunct all of this when we got engaged.

posted July 21, 2014 10:39 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I actually think it was a lot of things mixed up in one, but it is true, beside him being so attractive and everything, I think what fascinated me the most was the way he looked at me, how he seemed to react to my presence alone. It floored me, totally overwhelmed me. I was in the background leaning against a wall, dressed all in black, too. lol and he stepped out of the door and despite so many much younger, much cuter girls being there and all worshipping the ground beneath his feet, he was looking at me, and actually, looked as if he would have passed the other girls and come straight over to me, if they had not stepped into his way. It was like there was some cord between us. Of course that is just my surreal feeling, I know. Can`t really be what happened. But fact is he instantly stepped towards me and pressed a camera in my hand telling me to take a photo of him and the girls (he always poses challenges to me, I had never even before handeled an electronic camera. lol)
And when we were talking, except for the fact that he seemed fidgety and I don´t know like he was still pumped with adrenaline from the show, it was the way he looked at me; respectful of boundaries, but suddenly there was a "Me Tarzan, you Jane" vibe in the air. It did not help matter that he practically was sniffing at my hair within 10 minutes of having met!
I mean I was trying to keep the talk on a superficial, slightly bizarre and most of all INTELLECTUAL level (true to my Aqua Moon) and he was sniffing at my hair, and acting like he had never even HEARD about distance zones and that there are certain distances you shall keep with strangers and not invade someone else`s space as if you have known them for years!

Had he acted more like I expected him to, maybe I would not have felt like it. But in some weird way, and maybe he never even intended it, he made me suddenly aware that I was in fact a woman, after all.

Crazy realization for me.

It is probably just me being a hopeless case in social contact, but it seemed quite crazy to me. lol

Also I think there was a bit of Mercury-Neptune-conjunction going on there as well. CAuse he would suddenly in the middle of a sentence say a word or two, like it erupted out of him, Tommy Hilfiger was the word. And the girls who were still there hanging on his every word, looked at him as if he had lost his mind, totally blank faces, and I just was laughing and without missing a beat explaining to them: "The fragrance. He probably thinks he is smelling this."
Well he looked at me as if I had read his frigging mind (which I probably had, but that is beside the point), but seems I was right.
Anyway I somehow could NOT convince him that i really wasn`t having that fragrance. So he had to convince himself by sniffing at my hair, and even then he did not seem very convinced. He looked at me as if I was trying to keep the truth from him about me using this perfume.

Yeah, it WAS crazy, I did not just think it was, he simply was crazy.

Oh btw Neptune totally. of course a lot of Neptune there.

The first meetng chart itself had Neptune-Chiron-NN-conjunction on our composite Antivertex and Psyche and pr compospite Venus. THERE you have it.

Oh and I suspect the first meeting chart itself being responsible.

Plus you know we have a one degree Psyche-psyche-conjunction natally, right?
It will never separate from each other, walking step by step.

At that night our pr Psyche-Psyche-conjunction had come into conjunction with his natal Eros.

So who knows?

my pr Psyche on 7.49 Pisces
his n Eros on 8.21 Pisces
my name his chart 9.10 Pisces
his name his chart 10.26 Virgo

my Transiting name 7.56 Pisces
his transiting name 8.19 Gemini

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You are so cute, both of you I mean, this story. To be honest, you have great charts with this man, Ceri. I'm sure he would be very much into you (and I said I don't want to encourage such stuff :laughing

Anyway, it seems like Neptune there, baby. Plus, I'm thinking his Merc being his IC/DSC ruler, felt your Neptune to the core. He must have thought you are a fairy and smell like a fairy . I'm sure if you met him and asked him he'd say "I thought you were an elf or a fairy or some other creature from another world".

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posted July 21, 2014 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by 7Grace:
LeeLoo2014

How has the Venus/Mercury opposition played out? Are you Venus or Mercury?

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I am Mercury, he is Venus.

Oppositions are like being high and in sync with the other. You can even feel as if you're floating. That planet of yours feels heightened in the interaction with the other's heightened planet. There is also a feeling of idealization and "untouchable" in an opp, like you can never reach the other person, he/she is ellusive, like on a pedestal. In this respect, opp are Neptunian. Of course, it depends on the opp. Venus Saturn could feel like one's love, sweetness, cooperative attitude turns the other into an impenetrable wall, enhances his rejection.

This is however a lovely love/friendship opposition. This is exactly how it feels with my friend. We express ourselves our feelings, our minds very well and in a heightened manner when we are together, like walking on clouds and everything is enhanced. As Mercury, I feel he admires my mind and the way I express myself and loves them. In turn, he can express his feelings much better with me (he is a rather harsh, domineering and bossy man in general), he gets Venusian, his voice softens when he is with me. If I use harsh words, he feels it a lot, doesn't like it, gets touchy feely. If he is distant with me, I turn mute lol So one reflects the other. This opposition can bring a lot of things apart from the psychological factors: good dancing, singing, artsy-ing lol together and anything blending Venus with Mercury.

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posted July 21, 2014 11:15 AM            

Ceri, do you think this means you being together and doing your common Mars thing lol would trigger his Pluto (like waking his Pluto up) or that his Pluto would be much invested in your common Mars thing?

Most likely both, but I still wonder about the dynamics when composite planets conjunct natal planets.

Having "triggers" on my mind now lol I wonder about the trigger here: is the relationship the trigger for his Pluto or his Pluto for the relationship?
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posted July 21, 2014 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I think the transits and progressions may be what we feel as the very, very first thing.

With my husband, on the night I first saw him, he had:
-a progressed Pluto-Aphrodite conj. on his prog. AC, and tr. Mars was on it 0°
-prog. Mars in Scorpio with a tran. Pluto-Aphrodite conjunction on it 0°

This created a POWERFUL DW that made him look like pure walking, talking sex. His Natal Mars in Scorpio is opp. my Aphrodite 0°, and I think it was the first thing I felt because of those transits and progressions amplifying that type of energy.

With my Twin/Obsession/Addiction-whatever-label-fits the first thing I felt was hands down:
-My Chiron on his DC 0°.
Just seeing him felt like a tsunami of healing washed over me.
-His Venus-Jupiter conj. my Sun-Venus and opp. my Jupiter
Seeing his face just felt like pure Joy, and Seeing his smile was like being hit with the light of a million Suns.
The first time I heard his laugh, it was like the most beautiful music I'd ever heard in my life.

Probably all sounds corny, but that's what it felt like.

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What aspects in your synastry do you think you feel in a strong way? And what are your tightest aspects in synastry?

posted July 21, 2014 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Ooooooo I wanna play! lol

Is 5 degrees too wide for a node?

I swear I feel it like crazy but I'll give a breakdown as best I can if you're interested. There's a lot of things so it'll be tough. I'll have to think about it.

We met here, online, so that's a bit different also. Putting focus on mercury?

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Don't worry about orbs, DF. That's the whole point of the thread. Just focus on what you felt.

I think there's a difference when meeting someone in person, but one can feel the energy of a person online as well. So I guess you have two "first meetings": the one online and your interaction online and the one in flesh and blood. What aspects do you think you felt?

And what is the sequence of aspects playing out between you?