posted July 20, 2014 07:57 AM            

A lot of data is needed for this research, but we can attempt to look at some examples.

Many astrologers gravitate around the 3 deg. orb in synastry for the most potent aspects (for now, my approach is a case-by-case one). But I will try to be as objective as I can and I'm proposing the same thing to you.

Let's start with the natals though. For our own natal, it may be difficult to be objective, but we can try.

What do you think is the strongest aspect(s) you feel in your natal, something that permeates your chart, if any?

This part should be easier:

What is the strongest synastric aspect (or perhaps in their natal- but let's focus on the synastry between you two) you felt when you first met a person? And then the strongest aspects you felt, subsequently. And how the aspects came into play in time.

Of course, because this is a discussion about orbs/hard vs. soft/the nature of planets, mention the orb/aspect.

I'll think about my natal later. First, I'll give you an example with one of my friends:

The closest aspects in our synastry are:

his Uranus conjunct my Mars (0)
my Mercury opp his Venus (1)
my Venus trine his Sun (almost 1)
my Sun conjunct his Pluto (2)
My Moon conjunct his Moon in Leo (5)

After some thinking, I think the first aspect I felt when first meeting him was Sun/Pluto - my first impression of him is that he is a dark, Plutonian man, I also had this feeling about him that he is "powerful". I have no doubt about this aspect as out FIRST IMPRESSION ASPECT (from my side). Then, almost immediately after starting to interact, Moon conjunct Moon. Then Mercury/Venus opp started to play out (after some time). I haven't felt Mars/Uranus yet and I'm not sure about Venus/Sun, I can't decant it, it's like it's somewhere in the background (like a trine when there are hard aspects involved).

What is your First Impression Aspect with your people? and then describe the sequence of the other aspects.

Thanks!

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posted July 20, 2014 08:10 AM            

Anyway, if I think about it, I`d say his Mars opposite my Jupiter. And then his Sun on my Sun.

I remember that impression of being zapped with so much energy, electricity, but not the Uranian kind, sunny, warm.
I even described it to a friend of mine that it felt like he was illuminating the darkness of the room just with his positive energy.

Mars-Jupiter-opposition 0°!07
Sun-Sun-conojunction 1°01

posted July 20, 2014 08:20 AM            

What was the sequence for other aspects, if you felt them?

posted July 20, 2014 12:49 PM            

Like I said with my friend, first I felt Sun/Pluto, then knowing him a bit better (second, third meeting), I felt Moon/Moon etc.

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posted July 20, 2014 12:55 PM            

However, when I actually met him, I was surprised at what strong effect he had on me and how positively I reacted to his physicality/ masculinity.

posted July 20, 2014 01:54 PM            

his Uranus trine my Vertex 1.49
my Uranus sextile his Moon 2.43
my Uranus sextile his NN 0.01

That`s it in terms of major aspects (including the quinkunx)

So what do you think might be the solution to this analytical problem?

Cause the meeting, was so bizarre, unconventional, spontaneous, electric, so Uranian, and yet two sextiles and one trine?

posted July 20, 2014 01:55 PM            

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posted July 20, 2014 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yeah, good one.

Natal, synastric or composite progressions?
What transits or progressions do you suspect were there with Uranus?

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hm...natal and synastric. Something with your Moon perhaps? Or IC? Or your natal Uranus?

posted July 20, 2014 02:17 PM            

At first i felt the weirdness of him being there (coincidence of meeting), and then the sudden closeness that revealed itself in our very first conversation, in which we both shared very personal things and found out shocking similarities in our past. Then he suggested i compared our charts for the possibility of meeting prior this lifetime, because he obviously felt the weirdness too. Then when we parted, i was overwhelmed with emotions and following nights were very revealing in terms of past life dreams that came to me, involving me and him - married.

Then he continued to contact me and asked me out several times, all the wrong timing, because i was busy/wasn't in the city at the time, etc, but eventually we figured it out and started seeing each other more often and the bond continued to grow. That is how our friendship started.

I am not sure of the aspects, though.

First - it was most likely Uranus! Because of the electricity felt in the air, and all the synchronicities that led to it. But - which one? We've got ton of Uranus aspects. I think i'll just go with the most obvious one -

My Uranus square his Sun 0'05 seconds. At the time transit Uranus was also going around his Sun and squaring my Uranus, though.

And then i will say that the next aspects that went into play were the nodal aspects.

We have his ASC conjunct my SN exact and my MC conjunct his NN by 1,5 degrees. I think that led to the bonding part and unleashed my memories of past life.

posted July 20, 2014 02:23 PM            

What did he suggest for past life verification?

posted July 20, 2014 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Interesting, Selene. What are the orbs of those aspects? Also, could you list your closest aspects in synastry - planets? (use 50% in astro.com)

What did he suggest for past life verification?

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It was nothing in particular. We just met in very unusual circumstances and got to have some coffee and talked about all those things, our childhoods, school years. And it turned out that there were so much similar about us, and by that time he already knew i had an interest in astrology, so he suggested that we might have met in our past lives, although he is still not sure if he believes in reincarnation, lol. But the way we talked for the first time, wasn't like you usually talk to a stranger. It was more like - it doesn't matter that i've just met you, i can talk to you about everything.

Closest aspects are these ones:

He first

Sun square Uranus 0'01 second (my mistake, i thought it was 0'05 )

Venus quincunx Venus 0'17
Venus square Mars 0'34
Venus conjunct DSC 1'02

Jupiter conjunct Neptune 0'44

Saturn conjunct Pluto 1'00

Uranus trine Moon 0'08
Uranus sextile Mercury 0'42
Uranus sextile Venus 0'52
Uranus opposite Mars 0'36
Uranus square ASC 0'08

NN conjunct MC 1'46

ASC opposite NN 0'50

posted July 20, 2014 02:36 PM            

not directly Uranus, but mention it nevertheless:

pr Sun on 29.59 Capricorn, just on the verge of changing into Aquarius and from there it would be squaring n Uranus on 1.21 Scorpio (so within the 1,5 degree orb)

pr Venus 18.02 Aquarius
pr Mercury 18.04 Aquarius
pr Antivertex 17.18 Aquarius
n Moon 17.06 Aquarius

Not that much in terms of Transits, however Tr Uranus could be considered squaring my natal Sun and Mercury by 3-4 degrees.

his progressions
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pr Mercury sextile n Uranus 0.20 a
pr Uranus trine n ASC 0.18 a

doesn`t seem to have been that Uranian for him. lol
However

Tr Uranus conjunct n ASC with about 3 degree orb
and trine pr Juno (1)
(I rather tell you not WHERE his pr Juno was. LOL or transiting Juno for that matter)

there were some other progressions going on for him, which strike me stronger than Uranian ones.

pr Sun conjunct n Venus 0.00
(can`t really miss on that one!)

pr Venus conjunct n SN 0.27 a
pr Juno square n Pluto 0.11 s
pr IC conjunct n Juno 0.36 a

synastric progressions
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his pr Venus trine my n Uranus 0.26 s

that is all for Uranus in synastric progressions, so maybe it was not quite Uranus after all?

posted July 20, 2014 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
We talked about all psychological, astrological, unusual things you could imagine, not your typical first convo with someone you've just met.

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Yes, we did, so, too. Just superficially though. But I asked him for his birthtime, and well, I really have never done that before. Not after like 10 minutes of meeting a total stranger.

posted July 20, 2014 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thinking about my ex (it was a first meeting with a powerful "he's here!" impact) what I felt was definitely Vertex conjunct ASC DW both 2 deg.! And his Sun conj my ASC (4) Then we had a stage with some deep conversations - Merc conjunct Pluto (2) and then our most significant synastric combo and closest in orb came into play - our minor triangle with my stellium (but without my Mars) and his Aqua stellium with Moon/Venus/Merc, apex Neptune. This one was the best part of our relationship all the time. And it did feel like a minor triangle between these planets: warm, tender, loving, Neptunian etc

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Confirms what I am basically trying to say here all the time.

1. luminaries and angles
2. closest aspects
3. aspectfigures
4. conjunctions and oppositions

posted July 20, 2014 02:43 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Selene:
It was nothing in particular. We just met in very unusual circumstances and got to have some coffee and talked about all those things, our childhoods, school years. And it turned out that there were so much similar about us, and by that time he already knew i had an interest in astrology, so he suggested that we might have met in our past lives, although he is still not sure if he believes in reincarnation, lol. But the way we talked for the first time, wasn't like you usually talk to a stranger. It was more like - it doesn't matter that i've just met you, i can talk to you about everything.

Closest aspects are these ones:

He first

Sun square Uranus 0'01 second (my mistake, i thought it was 0'05 )

Venus quincunx Venus 0'17
Venus square Mars 0'34
Venus conjunct DSC 1'02

Jupiter conjunct Neptune 0'44

Saturn conjunct Pluto 1'00

Uranus trine Moon 0'08
Uranus sextile Mercury 0'42
Uranus sextile Venus 0'52
Uranus opposite Mars 0'36
Uranus square ASC 0'08

NN conjunct MC 1'46

ASC opposite NN 0'50

MC square Uranus 0'13

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A lot of Uranus here, Selene. It must have been Uranus for both of you.

And interesting how you pointed out feeling angle to NN (that fated feeling, right??) I never thought before that angle to vertex or NN could be felt, but now that you've said it, I realized this is what I felt with my ex: ASC Vertex DW! the fated feeling that a fated meeting is taking place.

What happened next? What did you feel when you knew him better?

posted July 20, 2014 02:55 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
my natal progressions

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you are right, it's not that impressive. How strange! It sounded so Uranian. His aspects are even stronger, BTW. I don't think that Taurus Moon opp Uranus was responsible for that feeling.

Then it must be Neptune!

like in the dream you had, with the chakra opening (Neptune exploding)

posted July 20, 2014 02:56 PM            

Jupiter square NN 0.00
NN sextile Uranus 0.01
ASC square Mercury 0.01
Pluto square Vertex 0.06
Mars opposite Jupiter 0.07
Jupiter square Neptune 0.13
Mercury sextile Pluto 0.18
Mercury conjunct Neptune 0.34
Saturn square Sun 0.46
Mercury conjunct NN 0.47
ASC square Sun 0.54
Mars square NN 0.56

Sun conjunct Sun 1.01
Jupiter opposite Jupiter 1.03
Mars square Neptune 1.09
Saturn square Mercuy 1.40
Sun conjunct Mercury 1.55
Uranus trine Vertex 1.55

Mercury square Jupiter 1.50

MC conjunct Sun 2.09
Vertex square Sun 2.22
Moon conjunct Sun 2.42
Mercury conjunct ASC 2.44

minor aspects
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Venus semisextile Sun 0.01

Venus semisquare Jupiter 0.18
ASC biquintile Uranus 0.19

posted July 20, 2014 02:59 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Confirms what I am basically trying to say here all the time.

1. luminaries and angles
2. closest aspects
3. aspectfigures
4. conjunctions and oppositions

(not necessarily in this order though, however I suppose if luminaries are in close aspect to each other or angles, it might make things even more, well, just more )

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Yes, indeed, I was thinking before making the thread that luminaries MUST feel things rather soon if not immediately. Of course, angles too. I'm curious about this angle to angle angle to NN angle to vertex thing. I hope people will be interested in the thread and bring their examples. And hard aspects, of course. (yes, I agree with you, conjunctions and oppositions: I'm thinking only certain squares are felt immediately, like Venus square Mars, or some Uranus to luminaries, Venus perhaps)

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