posted July 28, 2014 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Oh, right now my progressed Venus sextile his progressed Mars, not the same as in synastry but a complimentary aspect perhaps. Come to think of it, we meet when my progressed Moon crossed over his progressed North Node, oppose his progressed Sun 1, square his progressed Saturn (he was having a Sun square Saturn square NN at the time, right now it's still in orb I suppose: skipped step at work here). Right now my progressed Mars is applying to an opposition to his progressed Saturn and my progressed Vertex, it's intersting how the progressed synastry mirror the original synastry (which I noticed you noted that in the progressed thread already lol).

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This is so lovely about progressions, how they mirror synastric aspects. As usually, the synastry is the key

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Thanks for giving your feed back Lee, once triggered the aspect in synastry is felt constanly or only come alive with transits do you think?

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You're welcome Good question. I don't know
Let's say the transit triggers the aspect, and the progressions or the progressed composite has the same aspect for a long time (it doesn't have to be the same same: for example a Sun square Moon in synastry, a Sun opp or trine Moon in progressed). Then, we can be sure the wide orb synastric aspect is triggered for a long time.

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posted July 28, 2014 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Some call this a T-Wedge, I think it deserves a better name It's a Cradle connected to a T-square.

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I did not even know it HAD a name

posted July 28, 2014 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Some call this a T-Wedge, I think it deserves a better name It's a Cradle connected to a T-square.

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Yeah, T-Wedge is too impersonal, I'd love something like lighthouse lol. I don't get why it's called a Cradle, is there a baby somewhere?

posted July 28, 2014 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You're welcome Good question. I don't know
Let's say the transit triggers the aspect, and the progressions or the progressed composite has the same aspect for a long time (it doesn't have to be the same same: for example a Sun square Moon in synastry, a Sun opp or trine Moon in progressed). Then, we can be sure the wide orb synastric aspect is triggered for a long time.

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Yeah, well, for synastry, as long as there's something to be triggered it's better than nothing ^^.

posted July 28, 2014 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, with Ceres and Moon, there is some nurturing vibe I suppose. lol

Actually it looks rather "domesticated" cradle, with Moon, Ceres/Isis, Juno, Valentine, if it was not for Lust being at play also. lol

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It's a lovely cradle, you need Lust there or else the cradle is useless lol

posted July 28, 2014 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think a square makes you work all the time but that's just my opinion. It's the active part of the relationship, the one that makes you do things, changes, the one that brings events into the couple's life. It is also the physical part, it has physical implications.

So it's work for the rest of your lifetime together , doesn't sound so bad to me, if I'm not mistaken you have Pluto square Moon in your Comp.

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No, we have Moon conjunct Pluto.

Actually, we have a problem with squares in my comp

There is a trapezoid, and the only squares are those two. It's not a bad thing, being a closed harmonious structure and all, but both squares (tight ones) are between outer planets, they are both generational squares in fact:

Neptune (8 Sag) square Jupiter (6 Pisces)
Pluto (6 Libra) Saturn (Cancer 7)

However the Moon is there, conjunct Pluto (5 deg), but the square between Moon Saturn is wide, 7 deg. But we do have Moon Saturn DW in synastry, very tight aspects, which means the square is there, however it being so wide shows it will take time to bring Moon Saturn in a concrete form in the composite - such as being married or becoming parents. Or there is a specific moment for it, it will not be from the beginning. Pluto will perhaps play a major role in this - some changes, transformation.

The squares between the outer planets are in fact squares between chart ruler and 2nd ruler, IC ruler and 2nd ruler (interception) - so we will be working on creating a stable structure, whatever that means.

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posted July 28, 2014 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, with Ceres and Moon, there is some nurturing vibe I suppose. lol

Actually it looks rather "domesticated" cradle, with Moon, Ceres/Isis, Juno, Valentine, if it was not for Lust being at play also. lol

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Yes, indeed, another one of your marital structures

I mean, you have great charts for marriage, truth be told.
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posted July 28, 2014 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The squares between the outer planets are in fact squares between chart ruler and 2nd ruler, IC ruler and 2nd ruler (interception) - so we will be working on creating a stable structure, whatever that means.

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It is as it mean to be . I'll wait for your Moon-Saturn activation feed back, but not until 2021-2022 please, I'm not that patient lol. Interesting I can see Neptune/Jupiter as natural companions, Saturn and Pluto are tougher but they sure are your keys to establish a rel. I'll take Saturn over Uranus any day .

posted July 28, 2014 04:07 PM            

just when you said that I was thinking of looking what Bride and Groom are doing (and some hours before I was looking for asteroids that might bridge Venus on 16 Cap and Moon on 22 Cap, something in between, but all I found was Arthur on 16 Cap, Proserpina on 15 Cap, Circe on 14 Cap, all the wrong direction).

Anyway Groom is on 26 Cap
Briede on 20 Cap
With Moon on the exact midpoint. lol

and naturally that means they are part of the cradle. lol

And Briede makes the perfect exact alignment with the nodal axis, Amor, Cupido and Camelot (all on 20 Libra)

JEEZ

Well speaking of Jesus,

JESSIE on 19 Cap
MARY on 22 Cap. lol

(an important pairing for us actually; synastrically my Mary-Jessie-conjunction conjuncts his Maria. his Jessie is on his ASC, his Yeshua on his Saturn-DESC. Mary on the antiscion of all of this.

The Davison has also a Jessie-Mary-conjunction, right on the Cancer-DESC.
The night we met Transiting KARMA was right on this Jessie-Maria-DESC on 10 Cancer.

BTW we met after I was seeing him perform as jesus in "Jesus Christ Superstar". lol

Oh and our Davision also has a widish conjunction of Yeshua and Magdalena (3°32) at the end of Aquarius, you know right opposite our Isis/Osiris-conjunction in 7th house.

Again the night we met

Tr Yeshus was conjunct Tr Moon and Tr Pluto, quinkunx Tr Sun and trine Tr Saturn
Actually Tr Yeshua was opposing Tr Magdalena by one degree. lol

Tr Mary was conjunct our ASC-Karma, and opposing Tr Karma on our DESC-Jessie-Mary

I suppose it was a good day to meet "Jesus" even if just a stage-Jesus.

posted July 28, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
It is as it mean to be . I'll wait for your Moon-Saturn activation feed back, but not until 2021-2022 please, I'm not that patient lol. Interesting I can see Neptune/Jupiter as natural companions, Saturn and Pluto are tougher but they sure are your keys to establish a rel. I'll take Saturn over Uranus any day .

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Luckily, I'm a tough bish

Thank you, lovely bird.

posted July 28, 2014 04:28 PM            

I'm not surprised, you two are marriage material.

I've never checked those:

We have my Groom sesquisquare his Briede, my Briede trine his Groom out of sign. he's my out of sign Groom

His Briede conjunct my Juno
His Groom conjunct my Venus
My Briede/Groom opposition conjunct his Uranus (5th ruler) trine his NN

Composite Groom conjunct Moon opp Briede
Davison Briede quincunx Groom
Composite/Davison Mary conjunct Yeshua (3)

Not like yours, of course lol still not that bad.

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posted July 28, 2014 04:34 PM            

However NOTHING beats the Briede-Groom-connection In Jude Law`s and my chart.

We have a DW of Briede-Groom-conjunction, which is additionally trine each other. lol

Plus our Bride-Groom-conjunction falls onto our ASC-ASC-conjunction, my NN, my Angel - his Lucifer, my Atlantis,
and his name in my chart.

In the composite there is of course a Briede-Groom-conjunction as well, and it falls onto our chartruler Jupiter and Moira. LOL

posted August 05, 2014 12:03 PM            

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"Sun conjunct Venus 9.10 out of sign (both r6)"
I wouldnīt really count that.
[b] Nope, I wouldn't either

"Moon conjunct Venus 7.29 out of sign "
(both r5, I mean 5th house rulers)"
I hadnīt payed attention to it, but I am more inclined to at least give it some consideration, despite the out of sign aspect.
We do have a wide conjunction in composite of Moon and Venus after all (6°51)

That's interesting. Wide for an out of sign, but the composite aspect gives it some validity. Something on the mdp will be felt in a sweet way, no doubt.

"Venus square Uranus 5.26 out of sign"
This one got me thinking today. Maybe there is something to it. it is still within the 6 degree frame.

a slow planet, especially Uranus, will most likely trigger this one and make it valid. and/or a progressed aspect between these two, as mirror.

"Venus opposite Saturn 8.26 (both r2)
Venus conjunct Antivertex 4.27"
I hadnīt considered the Venus-Saturn-aspect as valid, but if we consider the orb of his Venus to my Antivertex as valid, well, my Saturn conjuncts my own Vertex with an orb of 4 degrees, so my Vertex is natally configured with my Saturn, and if Vertex aspects his Venus, my Saturn does so, too, possibly, albeit very weakly.

this is definitely valid, IMO. Oppositions are so strongly felt in general, even with wider orb. an important love aspect, even if the Vx weren't there. But it is, so definitely valid. events and meetings triggering this aspect. any significant Venus/Saturn in progressions will most likely trigger this aspect - there will always be a Venus/Saturn opp flavor to your progressed Venus/Saturn aspects

"Mars trine Venus 4.58"
Usually i like my trines tighter than this, but so my Venus makes a widish Grand trine with his Mars-Jupiter conjunction and Chiron.

perfectly valid trine here. Mars and Venus don't mind wider orbs and you have a DW. the fact that it makes a complex figure strengthens the validity of the trine also.

"Mars square Mars 5.56"
I would actually consider this one, because I have the line up of Mars, ASC, Neptune, NN in a range of 5-10 degrees and his Mars-Jupiter falls onto 10 and 11 degrees. It is interesting that it is not closer to the mid-range, especially as if that were so, it would also trine my Venus more exactly.
this one too. is this one loose?? interesting. so there should be a "better" Mars for the "ideal" aspect. I'm sure Aqua Man must have it

So the question is: why the Mars at 11 degrees of Virgo instead of being closer to 7 or 6 degrees?
Why does it need to be there, what aspect does it make this way, that it would not make otherwise?
didn't you have some interesting 11 degrees in your chart? where's your chart?

"Mars sextile Saturn 5.51"
Never even considered that before. hmm.
On the other hand this aspect is only possible BECAUSE his Mars is at 11 Virgo, and not at 7 degree, as my Saturn is on 17 Cancer.

aha there you have it! to give you an additional aspect. and a very important one if you marry him

"Saturn square Venus 9.25 out of sign (r11 and r5)"
Nope, donīt think that is a valid aspect, really too wide.

too wide this one, yes,. however it is interesting that you practically have a DW. but no, I don't think so.. I think it even shows your Venus/Saturn energy is sporadic even with the other one, perhaps just some events (being on Vx), but not an energy flow between you

"Uranus squrae Moon 6.16
Uranus trine Saturn 6.27"
You maybe could convince me if you have good arguments to consider these. lol

tell me where is your chart, I don't have it, I'd like to take a look at this interesting aspects, especially since you are an Aqua Moon

"Neptune conjunct Mercury 4.35 (r1 and r7)"
This one is very clearly existent. lol
Also considering that his Mercury exactly conjuncts my Neptune.

"Pluto trine Moon 4.17 (both r8)
Pluto square Saturn 4.26 (r8 and r2)"
While again I like my aspects closer than this, I wouldnīt dream of NOT including this one.

duh! lol

"ASC trine Saturn 8.05"
Not really. Especially not trines to angles.

I would consider this one if it were part of a DW or a GT, but if it's just isolated, it will only be felt if let's say an outer lands on ASC tightening the orb with Saturn, thus bringing Saturn to ASC: it will be temporary and through an intermediary, I think

"MC conj. Venus 8.03 out of sign"
this one we can surely talk about. lol

we'll negotiate hahahaha Is Venus in 10th?
How do you feel them...or do you?

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I forgot about this.

With the out of sing aspects, I think they have a mixed flavor, mixing the actual aspect (such as the conjunction) with the natural zodiacal aspect between those two. A common example here is a fake square: a square between two planets which are usually in sextile.

For example, conjunctions (OOS) are a reflection of the Yin/Yang semisextile polarity, which you know I like.

His Moon in Sag conjunct your Venus in Cap, both 5th is not bad at all, especially since his Moon is Yang and your Venus is Yin. I think the one "ahead" is the leading energy, in this case your Venus - your Venus invites his Moon to some quirky Moon/Venus activities hahaha

Venus square Uranus OOS - a "fake" square with a sextile vibe. The square will invoke electric attraction, tension, a need for physical interaction and for action, but once close, the energy will be felt sextile-like. However, a fake square will always be more exciting and restless and unsettling than a real sextile lol

Mars trine Venus - well, a classical Yin/Yang harmony and compatibility on many levels

Mars square Mars combined with a sextile with Saturn will balance the Mars/Mars energy somehow.

Moon square Uranus in combination with Saturn - another balancing combo with Uranus and Saturn giving an on/off come and go, stay and leave energy to the Moon, but as a stable structure.

In fact, most your wide aspects (including the Venus ones and the one to ASC) are about Saturn. Hm...this is interesting. Saturn is not something that stands out at the beginning of the relationship, unless there are some other close aspects with it. It's an energy on standby, so to speak.