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Delilah423
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posted September 06, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see that Ceri has posted an example of a broken engagement, but I don't want my hard work to go to waste, so here is another example of a relationship that did not work out. It was, however, my longest relationship, and we are still friends. We were together for 8 years (living together for 5 1/2 of those years).

I have not yet looked at any asteroids, and am not including DWs where at least one of the aspects is a squine, squile, novile, etc. I just don't have the patience/time to figure those all out manually, but I will say that means I'm eliminating at least 10 DWs by doing so. I'm including some wide orbs in case they may be relevant.

His 7th House Ruler: Neptune
My 7th House Ruler: Mercury
His Chart Ruler: Mercury
My Chart Ruler: Jupiter

Sun/Jupiter - conjunction(0), opposition(1)
Sun/Saturn - sextile (5), semisextile (3)
Sun/Pluto - semisextile (2), conjunction (8)

Moon square Moon (7)
Moon/Mercury - opposition (3), square (1)
Moon/Venus - opposition (3), square (0)
Moon/Jupiter - opposition (5), trine (9)
Moon/Neptune - quincunx (3), trine (3)
Moon/Pluto - quincunx (2), sextile (0)
Moon/Chiron - semisquare (2), opposition (2)

Mercury conjunct Mercury (5)
No DWs with planets except the Moon/Mercury above

Venus/Mars - quindecile (2), sextile (0)

Saturn/Jupiter - conjunction (8), square (8)
Saturn/Uranus - semisquare (0), quincunx (1)

Neptune/Chiron - trine (2), semisquare (1)

Chiron sextile Chiron (2)

ASC quintile ASC (1)
ASC/Moon - opposition both ways, (8) and (0)
ASC/Venus - quintile (1), conjunction (8)

Vertex trine Vertex (1)
Vertex/Mercury - sextile (1), opposition (5)

MC/Sun - semisextile (2), square (4)
MC/Mercury - conjunction (6), square (9)
MC/Venus - conjunction (0), square (7)
MC/Jupiter - conjunction (2), trine (1)

There are no DWs involving angles/nodes and his 7th House Ruler Neptune, unless I missed one. I got tired and maybe a little sloppy when I got to the angles/nodes.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 06, 2014 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Great work, Ceri! and everyone! I'll check them tomorrow.

I always check DWs but I've never grouped them so thoroughly.
I focused on the 7th ruler, as promised, on a small batch for you, for exemplification. It works! There are several DWs with the DSC ruler in these famous long-terms, now I need to check against not-so-successful relationships.

My parents

her 7th - Moon
his 7th - Venus

7th/Sun DW (opp,conj)
7th/Merc DW (opp, sesquis)
7th/Saturn DW (trine)
7th/Uranus DW (sq, opp)
etc.
didn't check further

Princess Lillian/Prince Bertil

her 7th - Venus
his 7th - Saturn

7th/Sun DW (opp,trine)
7th/Mercury DW (opp, trine)
7th/Uranus DW (quincunx,sq)

Elizabeth/Robert Browning

her 7th Neptune (Jupiter) - only checked Neptune
his 7th - Mercury

7th/Jupiter DW (opp, BQ)
7th/Chiron DW (trine, sq)
7th/Juno DW (semisq, trine)

Linda/Paul

her 7th - Venus
his 7th - Neptune (Jupiter)

DW between 7th rulers
7th/Sun DW (conj, sesquis)
7th/Mercury DW (semisext, BQ)
7th/Jupiter DW (trine, sq) wide
7th/Chiron DW (sq,semisq)


Brangelina

her 7th Saturn
his 7th Mercury

7th/Moon DW (opp,sq)
7th/Mars DW (opp,sq)
7th/Jupiter DW (sq)


I have the advantage of having 4 7th rulers in my synastry lol which gives
DW between them
and DW with Sun, Moon, Venus, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, NN, Chiron, Juno, Eros and Ceres.

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posted September 06, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
my parents (40 years of marriage)
Venus/Satrn (trine, conj.)
Venus/ASC (quink. conju)
Mars/Uranus (square, quintile)

you gotta tell me how this plays out in long term, since your parents have it.
Venus- Saturn conjunction ( especially this)
Venus-ASC conjunction
Mars-Uranus ( conjunction or square)

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posted September 06, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
IQ once told that asteroids mean what they are to collective unconscious (if i remember right, but this was the idea). For most people Destinn means what it is associated for - Destiny. It appears well in synastries with the fated feeling.

Hah! No wonder we clicked so well. That's my entire mechanistic principle behind astrology; the principle of functionalism. Which is why, for example, I'm willing to accept 'if the consensus' (that's the general majority -- be it influenced by the collective unconscious or not) agrees upon a meaning, then that is how it operates.

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posted September 06, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In this case I've also excluded Destinn from my list. It is obvious Emmy Destinn's voice and talent made it possible for an asteroid to be named after her, so this is what this asteroid should symbolize. But you may keep it if you think it reflects fate, I see no reason for that though. I kept Devota because it was named after Fortunato Devoto LOL and Devoto means "devoted" in its original language, Spanish (he is Argentinian). I should have been more thorough and checked those from the beginning


Honestly, I was with you, Lee, until I realised that DESTINN has been used as a destiny marker in too many cases. It may've been intended to be related to the soprano, but it isn't operating that way. Instead, it's become a fate marker.

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posted September 06, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Delilah, so I understand these are all DWs with one major aspect included?

Sun/Mercury* what does Mercury rule for each of you?
Sun/Saturn
Sun/Neptune
Sun/Chiron
Sun/Juno*

Moon/Uranus do you have strong Uranus in the natal? What does Uranus rule?
Moon/Pluto - what are the aspects between Moon and Pluto?

Mercury/Venus
Mercury/Jupiter
Mercury/Saturn
Mercury/Uranus
Mercury/Chiron

Venus/Mars - what are your aspects between Venus and Mars?
Venus/Saturn
Venus/Uranus
Venus/Chiron*
Venus/Juno

Mars/Jupiter
Mars/Saturn
Mars/Chiron - what are the aspects here?
Mars/Juno*
Mars/ASC

Saturn/Uranus
Saturn/Pluto
Saturn/Vesta*
Saturn/ASC

Ceres/Uranus
Ceres/Pallas
Ceres/ASC*

Neptune/Pallas


Thanks


Q: What does Mercury rule for each of you?
Mercury rules my 7th House (Gemini) and my 10th House (Virgo); his 1st House (Gemini) and 4th House (Virgo).

Q: Do you have strong Uranus in the natal? What does Uranus rule?

Not counting asteroids beyond #4, Uranus is alone in my 7th House in Cancer. It is square Sun (7), quintile Venus (2), and quincunx my ASC (2). It rules my 3rd House.

In his natal, Uranus is in the 12th House, semisextile Sun (2), sextile Venus (3), sextile Mars (1), semisquare Saturn (1), and sesquiquadrate Chiron (0). It rules his 9th House.

7th House Rulers: Mercury (me), Jupiter (him)
Chart Rulers: Jupiter (me), Mercury (him)

Here is the list of planetary DWs again, with aspects. As I mentioned before, some of these are probably way too wide or minor, but:

Sun/Mercury - biquintile (2), trine (0.04)
Sun/Saturn - sextile (0), trine (5)
Sun/Neptune - conjunction (6), quincunx (1)
Sun/Chiron - semisextile (2), quincunx (1)
Sun/Juno - square (0), triseptile (0)

Moon/Uranus - square (7), opposition (2)
Moon/Pluto - sesquiquadrate (1), sesquiquadrate (2)

Mercury/Venus - quincunx (0.42), trine (8)
Mercury/Jupiter - sextile (5), quintile (0.21)
Mercury/Saturn - semisquare (0.05), sesquiquadrate (1)
Mercury/Uranus - square (2), sextile (1)
Mercury/Chiron - semisquare (1), biquintile (0.08)

Venus/Mars - quincunx (1), sesquiquadrate (2)
Venus/Saturn - semisquare (1), triseptile (2)
Venus/Uranus - square (0.29), square (8)
Venus/Chiron - semisquare (0.06), trine (0.35)
Venus/Juno - semisquare (0), biseptile (0)

Mars/Saturn - trine (3), quincunx (2)
Mars/Chiron - See Comment Below
Mars/Juno - semisextile (1), opposition (0)
Mars/ASC - quincunx (1), trine (9)

Saturn/Uranus - square (3), quintile (2)
Saturn/Pluto - semisquare (2), quindecile (1)
Saturn/Vesta - trine (0), quintile (0)
Saturn/ASC - square (4), trine (8)

Comment re: Mars/Chiron: I probably shouldn't have included it in the first list. I have no idea why it's listed, as it's almost 5 degrees from a semi-sextile in one direction and a 4+ degree trine in the other.


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posted September 06, 2014 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your conclusions on Draco-Draco contacts?

I absolutely could not resist it, I had to make Draco-Draco DWs. It's the next step, right? All are DW. I skipped on details for some.

Very, very interestingly, this synastry is usually loaded to the brim with Pluto any way you look, but there is none in this one. (Saturn and Uranus, but quite wide)

Sun/Moon (square[0], opposition[1])
Sun/Uranus (square[3], opposition[3])

(Moon is his dRH7, Uranus is mine)
Moon/Sun (square[0], opposition[1])
Moon/Venus (semisquare[1], trine[6])
Moon/Jupiter (trine[1], opposition[0])
Moon/Uranus (trine[1], trine[1])
Moon/AC (square[3], sextile[0])

Mercury/Venus
Mercury/Jupiter
Mercury/Saturn
Mercury/Neptune

Venus/Moon (trine[6], sesquisquare[1])
Venus/Mercury (square[5], conjunct[7])
Venus/Jupiter (conjunct[3], quintile[0])
Venus/MC (square[0], square[7])

Mars/Uranus (sextile[5], semisquare[5])

Jupiter/Moon
Jupiter/Mercury
Jupiter/Venus
Jupiter/Saturn
Jupiter/Uranus

Saturn/Mercury
Saturn/Jupiter
Saturn/Pluto
Saturn/Pallas
Saturn/MC

Pluto/Saturn
Pluto/Uranus

Juno/Pluto (conjunction[0], conjunction[2])

(Uranus is my dRH7, Moon is his)
Uranus/Sun (opposition[3], square[3])
Uranus/Moon (trine[1], trine[1])
Uranus/Mars (semisquare[5], sextile[5])
Uranus/Jupiter
Uranus/Pluto
Uranus/Chiron
Uranus/Vesta
Uranus/AC

Neptune/Mercury

A few Yin-Yang aspects:
Saturn/Venus-Saturn/Mars (inconjunct[1], sesquisquare[1])
NN/Moon-NN/Sun (square[2], conjunct[2])
Vertex/Mars-Vertex/Venus (opposite[3], opposite[4])
Juno/Venus-Juno/Mars (inconjunct[0], biquintile[0])

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posted September 07, 2014 09:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
you gotta tell me how this plays out in long term, since your parents have it.
Venus- Saturn conjunction ( especially this)
Venus-ASC conjunction
Mars-Uranus ( conjunction or square)

it must have worked rather well for them, they are still married after all, and actually for the most part happy. And unlike other couples I know they are very much "together", spending a lot of time with each other, going on holidays together, constant communication, though interlaced with quite abit of bickering now and then.

Well my Dad has a very close conjunction of his Saturn and ASC, which fits my Mum`s type perfectly, as Saturn rules her 7th (and 8th) house.
His ASC-Saturn is also in Virgo, and that speaks to my Momīs Moon and Venus-Mars-conjunction in Virgo (Moon is on 28 degrees Venus and Mars on 18 and 14 degrees, so not conjunct Moon).

They also have the DW of Mars-Saturn-conjunction.

So my Mom`s Venus conjuncts Dad`s ASC with an orb of 0°06 and his Saturn with an orb of 0°35, so we are talking about PARTILE aspects here.
It gives them a lot of stability I think and serious working on the relationship, though both are personally expecting a relationship to be about partnership, teamwork anyway (no wishes for the easy thrill).

On top of that Venus rules my Mum`s 5th house and Saturn rules my Dad`s 5th house, so even on that level they are very attracted to each other. I am not sure EVERY Venus-Saturn-aspects speaks of strong romantic attraction, but in their case it is a conjunction of the 5th house rulers.

As they have Mars-Saturn-conjunction, too, and Mars rules my Dad`s 8th house and Saturn rules my Mum`s 7th and 8th house, they also have the conjunction of 8th house rulers. And like in the other case the conjunction is partile (0°24)

Well, for the other direction, my Dad`s Saturn ruling his 5th house and my Mum`s Mars ruling her 11th house, this is complementary as well, though the conjunction is not as tight (4°56).


Venus-ASC-conjunction of course is a very beautiful aspect to have, speaking of a romantic-physical attraction.


Their Mars-Uranus-DW consists of a Quintile and a square (might have mistyped that).


My Dad`s Mars squares her Uranus by 4°39
his Uranus quintiles her Mars by 0°09

The square is valid, but I suppose compared to the partile Saturn-aspects not as forefront.it is forefront enough though as her Uranus conjuncts her ASC.

What is interesting is that his Mars fuels her Saturn-Uranus-square, as his Mars is also conjunct her SAturn. Since the Mars-Satur-conjunction is partile while the square approaching 5 degrees, the Mars-Saturn-might win out, but I think it might be responsible at least to a part for the bickering.

mars rules my Dad`s 8th house, so her Uranus-ASC shakes him up quite a bit and keeps him on his toes I suppose. But him having Venus-Jupiter conjunction in Aquarius and Sun in Aquarius, too, all in 5th house - well after 40 years she seems still to be a worthy mental and verbal sparringpartner. lol

On the other hand he has quite a bit of 8th house vibe as well, his Moon is in 8th house, and his Venus opposes Pluto, so in a way it gives him what he needs.

The quintile might be a little like a weird dance, a bit thrilling, intriguing. I like quintile aspects they are quirky and have that "twinkle in the eye" sense to them.

Speaking of "dancing", that is a thing they still like to do with each other, if the occasion arises, and constantly holding hands when going for a walk, or hugging and smooching (not constantly, but pretty often) - Ack, it`s disgusting!

No, not really, but they are setting the bar prety high. lol


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posted September 07, 2014 09:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Draco-Draco is very much "under the surface", that rumble underneath, but it needs strong links to the tropical chart for an outlet or manifestation.

I am not yet ready to move on there, still pretty much occupied with figuring out the double whammies in the normal synastry. But yes, it will be an interesting project.

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posted September 07, 2014 10:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for aspects of my parent`s 7th rulers:

7th ruler to

- Venus (exact semisextile, trine)

- Uranus (square, square, one wide at 7 degrees)
- Pluto (sextile, exact septile)

- SN (novile, exact conjunction)

- 9th ruler (square, trine)


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posted September 07, 2014 10:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For my friends:

7th ruler to:

- Moon (opposition and sextile-square)
- Sun (quinkunx and quinkunx-trine)
- Mars (sextile and trine-square)
- Neptune (trine and sextile)
- Pluto (sextile and trine-square)
- MC (square and septile)

- 1st ruler (square and sextile)
- 2nd ruler (trine and sextile, square)
- 3rd ruler (sextile and quinkunx-trine)
- 12th ruler (trne and trine-square)
- 11th ruler (trine and trine-square)
- 7th ruler (opposite-quinkunx and opposite-quinkunx)
- 10th ruler (sextile and sextile)


EDIT:
Theirs is pretty exceptional, it is really not always that that much comes up. They also have the ASC-DESC-conjunction with his Sun on her DESC as well.

Partly the reason for that many aspects to be possible is also due to him having Leo intercepted in 7th house, so Sun and Moon rule his 7th house.

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posted September 07, 2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the list for my parents.
About the relationship: Married for over 30 years. Only marriage for both. Met at university. Honestly, I do not understand how they are still together. They argue all the time, loudly, and it's not the nice kind of arguing.
They look completely different, too. He's dark, tall and very thin, she's light, short and overweight. He's a doer, she's a thinker. Totally different people.
And look at all the bad squares in their synastry...

To my knowledge, they have both been faithful to one another and have had no serious previous relationships. They come from different countries and cultures and both their families were strongly against their marriage.


Sun/Mercury, biquintile(0), trine(0)

Moon/Mars, quintile(1), sesquisquare(0)
Moon/Jupiter, square(0), trine(0)
Moon/Vesta, trine(4), inconjunct(0)

Mercury/Sun, trine(0), biquintile(0)
Mercury/Mars, semisextile(2), sesquisquare(0)
Mercury/Jupiter, sesquisquare(0), inconjunct(0)
Mercury/Pluto, square(4), sextile(4)
Mercury/Chiron, sextile (2), sesquisquare(2)

Venus/Jupiter, square(4), square(1)
Venus/Neptune, conjunct(5), sextile(1)

Mars/Moon, sesquisquare(0), quintile(0)
Mars/Mercury, sesquisquare(0), semisextile(2)
Mars/Uranus, trine(1), trine(4)

Jupiter/Moon, trine(0), square(0)
Jupiter/Mercury, inconjunct(0), sesquisquare(0)
Jupiter/Venus, square(1), square(4)
Jupiter/Neptune, semisquare(2), trine(5)
Jupiter/Vesta, opposition(2), trine(2)

Saturn/Neptune, quintile(0), conjunct(4)

Uranus/Mars, trine(4), trine(1)
Uranus/Pluto, quintile(1), semisquare(2)

Neptune/Venus, inconjunct(2), conjunct(5)
Neptune/Jupiter, trine(5), semisquare(2)
Neptune/Pluto, quintile(1), semisquare(2)

Pluto/Mercury, sextile(4), square(4)
Pluto/Uranus, semisquare(2), conjunct(2)
Pluto/Neptune, semisquare(2), quintile(1)
Pluto/BML, sextile(1), quintile(0)

Chiron/Mercury, sesquisquare(2), sextile(2)
Chiron/Mars, sextile(3), sextile(2)


Yin-Yang aspects:
Sun/Venus square(5) - Sun/Mars trine(3)
Moon/Mars quintile(1) - Moon/Venus opposition(7)
Mercury/Mars semisextile(2) - Mercury/Venus square(7)
Venus/Moon opposition(7) - Venus/Sun square(5)
Mars/Sun trine(3) - Mars/Moon quintile(1)
Jupiter/Sun sesquisquare(2) - Jupiter/Moon square(0)
Saturn/Moon square(4) - Saturn/Sun semisextile(0)
Uranus/Mars trine(4) - Uranus/Venus square(5)
Pluto/Venus conjunct(3) - Pluto/Mars square(1)
Chiron/Mars sextile(3) - Chiron/Venus square(7)

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All of that is kind of not terribly great. But look at the asteroid DW:

Eros/Mars - conjunct(1), conjunct(1) !!! I guess that's why the relationship has managed to survive.
Eros/Uranus - inconjunct(0), square(2)
Eros/Chiron - semisextile(1), square(0)
Cupido/Saturn - semisquare(1), opposite(1)
Cupido/Pluto - trine(4), sextile(0)
Osiris/Mercury - opposite(0), square(4)
Uranus/Eros - square(2), inconjunct(0)

Complements:
Amor/Sun - Amor/Moon
Destinn/Sun - Destinn/Moon
Osiris/Venus - Osiris/Mars
Osiris/Uranus - Isis/Uranus
Neptune/Psyche - Neptune/Eros

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Notable things:
-my father's Moon and Mercury both have 13 aspects. (of 27 bodies - so half)
-my mother's Juno aspects 7 bodies: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron. My father's Juno squares her Jupiter(only Juno aspect from his chart).

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quote:
Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Wow awesome thread!
I'm excited to check mine!

I have a question though;
We have my Moon exactly sextile his Sun, and my Sun in the same sign as his Moon, but 11' apart. Would you still consider this as a DW?


I consider this a DW, Lavender. The energy of having the Moon and Sun in the same sign whilst there is an aspect on the other side will most certainly be felt. Especially since you probably have planets/asteroids between Moon and Sun (in Virgo, right??) if I remember correctly.

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quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Lee


rulers to rulers

ASCR sextile ASCR (not exactly a DW but maybe you'd like to know)
ASCR semisextile 3R, ASCR semisextile 3R
ASCR quintile ICR, ASCR conjunct ICR
ASCR opposite 8R, ASCR biquintile 8R
ASCR sextile MCR, ASCR opposite MCR
ASCR sextile 12R, ASCR square 12R
2R trine 2R
2R trine 5R, 2R trine 5R
2R quincunx, 2R square MCR
3R conjunct 3R
3R semisquare 6R, 3R trine 6R
3R semisquiare DSCR, 3R trine DSCR
3R sesquisquare 8R, 3R opposite 8R
3R sesquisquare MCR, 3R semisextile MCR
ICR sesquisquare ICR
5R trine 5R
5R quindecile 6R, 5R biquintile 6R
5R quindecile 11R, 5R biquintile 11R
6R opposite 6R
6R opposite DSCR, 6R opposite DSCR
DSCR opposite DSCR
DSCR opposite 8R, DSCR semisquare 8R
DSCR opposite MCR, DSCR biquintile MCR
DSCR square 12R, DSCR opposite 12R
8R trine 11R, 8R semisquare 11R
8R biquintile 12R, 8R quindecile 12R
9R opposite MCR, 9R quincunx MCR
MCR opposite MCR
MCR sextile 12R, MCR quindecile 12R
11R conjunct 12R, 11R opposite 12H
12R square 12R


planets to rulers

Sun quindecile MCR, Sun opposite MCR
Moon semisquare ASCR, Moon conjunct ASCR
Moon trine 8R, Moon quindecile 8R
Moon trine 9R, Moon square 9R
Moon semisquare MCR, Moon trine MCR
Moon sextile 12R, Moon conjunct 12R
Mercury sextile ASCR, Mercury opposite ASCR
Mercury square 2R, Mercury quincunx 2R
Mercury semisextile 3R, Mercury sesquisquare 3R
Mercury opposite 9R, Mercury quincunx 9R
Mercury opposite MCR, Mercury opposite MCR
Mercury sextile 12R, Mercury biquintile 12R
Venus trine 5R, Venus quindecile 5R
Venus quincunx 8R, Venus semisquare 8R
Mars trine 2R, Mars trine 2R
Mars quindecile 3R, Mars opposite 3R
Mars conjunct 5R, Mars trine 5R
Mars biquintile 6R, Mars semisquare 6R
Mars biquintile 11R, Mars semisquare 11R
Jupiter quintile ASCR, Jupiter square ASCR
Jupiter sextile 5R, Jupiter trine 5R
Jupiter semisextile 11R, Jupiter semisextile 11R
Saturn square ASCR, Saturn square ASCR
Saturn semisquare 3R, Saturn sextile 3R
Saturn trine 5R, Saturn trine 5R
Uranus semisquare 3R, Uranus conjunct 3R
Uranus sextile 5R, Uranus biquintile 5R
Uranus semisquare 6R, Uranus opposite 6R
Uranus semisquare DSCR, Uranus opposite DSCR
Uranus opposite 8R, Uranus opposite 8R
Uranus opposite MCR, Uranus semisextile MCR
Neptune conjunct ASCR, Neptune square ASCR
Neptune conjunct MCR, Neptune opposite MCR
Pluto semisextile ASCR, Pluto sesquisquare ASCR
Pluto conjunct 3R, Pluto semisextile 3R
Pluto quindecile 5R, Pluto square 5R
Pluto square DSCR, Pluto trine DSCR
Pluto biquintile 8R, Pluto sesquisquare 8R
Pluto biquintile MCR, Pluto sesquisquare MCR
Pluto trine 11R, Pluto conjunct 11R
Pluto square 12R, Pluto semisextile 12R
ASC square 5R, ASC sextile 5R
SN conjunct 2R, SN sextile 2R


I hope you find it useful.

Oh, when it comes to planets to planets we also have 5R Mars on MC 0 conjunct 8R Mars on DSC 0 by 8.


Thank you It's a very rich synastry, this one.

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quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
I will post my grandparents DWs. Their marriage was an example of "love" for me. So it must show in their synastry.

All in orbs that you allowed in the beginning. Though there are a few 7-9 degree aspects, i would usually not count, but still.


Planetary.

Sun opposite Sun 5

Sun trine Jupiter 4
Jupiter square Sun 9

Sun square Pluto 1
Pluto square Sun 8

Mercury quincunx Mars 0
Mars quincunx Mercury 1

Mercury trine Jupiter 8
Jupiter trine Mercury 7

Venus trine Mars 9
Mars quincunx Venus 1

Mars square Saturn 3
Saturn trine Mars 8

Mars opposite Uranus 3
Uranus conjunct Mars 0

Mars square Pluto 8
Pluto trine Mars 7

Jupiter conjunct Saturn 2
Saturn quincunx Jupiter 0

Jupiter quincunx Jupiter 0

Jupiter square Uranus
Uranus square Jupiter

Saturn sextile Saturn 1

Saturn trine Pluto 3
Pluto opposite Saturn 2

Uranus trine Pluto
Pluto square Uranus

NN opposite BML
BML square NN 0


I notice Venus/Mars and Mars/Saturn DW here. I wonder if they were strong Uranians. Mars/Uranus - what does Uranus rule for them? Lilith/NN DW is also a very interesting aspect. How do you think it was expressed?

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quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
Me & platonic male friend. Lets see, what shows up.

Planetary:

Sun (12HR) semisquare Moon (8HR) 0
Moon (11HR) square Sun (8HcoR) 4

Sun (8HcoR) trine MC 8
MC conjunct Sun (12HR) 4

Moon (8HR) quincunx Moon (11HR) 1

Moon (8HR) square Mercury (1HR, 10HR)1
Mercury (7HR, 9HR) quintile Moon (11HR) 1

Moon (8HR) square Venus (2HR, 9HR) 0
Venus (5HR, 10HR) conjunct Moon (11HR) 0

Moon (8HR) quincunx Mars (8HR) 1
Mars (4HR) trine Moon (11HR) 5

Moon (8HR) conjunct Neptune (7HR) 2
Neptune (3HR) biquintile Moon (11HR) 0

Moon (8HR) sextile Pluto (3HR) 2
Pluto (11HR, 12HR) square Moon (11HR) 2

Moon (8HR) trine ASC 1
ASC trine Moon (11HR) 6

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) conjunct Venus (2HR, 9HR) 9
Venus (5HR, 10HR) sextile Mercury (1HR, 10HR) 1

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) trine Mars (8HR) 8
Mars (4HR) opposite Mercury (1HR, 10HR) 5

Mercury (7Hr, 9HR) quintile Jupiter (4HR) 0
Jupiter (1HR) trine Mercury (1HR) 6

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) square Saturn (5HR) 4
Saturn (2HR) quintile Mercury (1HR, 10Hr) 1

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) square Chiron 3
Chiron square Mercury (1HR, 10HR) 6

Venus (5HR, 10HR) sextile Venus (2HR, 9HR) 0

Venus (5HR, 10HR) sextile Mars (8HR) 0
Mars (4HR) opposite Venus (2HR,9HR) 6

Venus (5HR, 10HR) conjunct Jupiter (4HR) 3
Jupiter (1HR) trine Venus (2HR, 9HR) 8

Venus (5HR, 10HR) quincunx Neptune (7HR) 2
Neptune (11HR, 12HR) square Venus (2HR, 9HR) 6

Mars (4HR) trine Jupiter (4HR) 2
Jupiter (1HR) conjunct Mars (8HR) 8

Mars (4HR) sextile MC 1
MC trine Mars (8HR) 0

Jupiter (1HR) sextile Jupiter (4HR) 3

Jupiter (1HR) trine Pluto (3HR) 1
Pluto (11HR,12HR) square Jupiter (4HR) 0

Jupiter (1HR) square ASC 6
ASC trine Jupiter (4HR) 3

Jupiter (1HR) conjunct MC 0
MC sextile Jupiter (4HR) 3

NN opposite ASC 1
ASC sextile NN 2

ASC opposite MC 1
MC semisextile ASC 0

ASC square ASC 5
MC trine MC 7

[b]WOW, i certainly did not expect that much DWs, although the synastry indeed is very good!

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Hm...are you sure it's platonic, this one?

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My parents' synastry is like a spiderweb and working with it it's like cutting through a dense bush forest Of course, it is also a pleasure. Here are some DWs they have:

Sun/Moon DW opp (0) and septile (1)
Venus/Mars DW (conjunction)
Sun/Neptune (square and trine both 5)
Sun/MC DW (square and sesquis both 0)
Sun/Pluto (opp 3 quincunx 0)
Moon/Uranus DW (square 5 trine 6)
Moon/Saturn DW (sextile 0 trine 5)
Moon/Jupiter (Q and sextile)
Moon/Chiron (semisextile opp)
Venus/Saturn (trine and sesquis)
Venus/Pluto (trine and sesquis)
Mars/Saturn (square 0 and 3)

to be continued


They're both Uranian, BTW

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Today I thought to myself "If someday I have a man, I want us to be like Caesar and Cleopatra".

my Caesar conjunct his Kleopatra 2
his Caesar sextile my Kleopatra 4

my Caesar conjunct his Mercury 4
his Kleopatra opposite my Mercury 1

his Caesar trine my Sun 1
his Kleopatra trine my Moon 2

lol

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Today I thought to myself "If someday I have a man, I want us to be like Caesar and Cleopatra".



You mean one being murdered, the other committing suicide (after the tryst with Marc Anthony)?

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You mean one being murdered, the other committing suicide (after the tryst with Marc Anthony)?

That's the first place I went, too, Ceri!

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Seriously though I have noticed Caesar-Kleopatra in my own synastries as we..

I have Caesar 26.06 Sag (10 minutes off my Sun)
Kleopatra 22.56 Sagittarius.


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1)
first crush I had

Caesar 22.58 Aries
Kleopatra 22.16 Aries


so nice trines right there

2)
Jude

Caesar 25.32 Aries

(so widely trine my Kleopatra)

his Kleo on 00 Libra, very widely squaring my Caesar, too, but really too far for asteroids I suppose.

3)
Mr Sag

Caesar 27.24 Aries

(not to my Kleo though)


Well, I find it funny, these Caesars in Aries

BTW Alexander Skarsgard whom I had a very shortlived crush on has Caesar on 22 Gemini exactly opposite my Kleo


Well, Caesar-Kleopatra are definitely not my preferred couple, but this Aries-thing about Caesar in my synastries is funny. Espeically as if falls onto my Draconic Venus-Isis-Osiris (from 25-28 Aries)


EDIT
Interestingly around that time and in the 1st century a.d. the cult of Isis was very established and followed in Rome, though Caesar`s successor Augustus/Octavian prosecuted the followers of Isis-cult to reestablish the traditional religion in Rome again.

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Thanks for spoiling the mood

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hm...are you sure it's platonic, this one?


Unbelievable, right? Could beat every theory of aspects causing feelings between people, lol.

But yes, at least from my side completely platonic. He is married, has kids, so i think there is nothing from his side as well, hopefully. The abundance of aspects, though, creates a great atmosphere when we meet.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you, Leeloo,

all this effort, and interesting to read. I asn`t aware we had so many romance markers. lol

Well nevertheless I am going to use my solar fire table with reduced asteroids (only the four majors and black moon), but using also 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th harmonics. I am going to cut the minors to 1.30 though.

Oh you asked about Mercury.

Mercury rules a lot of houses for both of us:

For me:
7th and 9th

for him:
3rd, 4th and 7th

as you can see it is the 7th house ruler for both of us (Virgo for him; Gemini for me).

At the same time it rules the "mental polarity" in the 3rd and 9th house (Gemini for his 3rd, Virgo for my 9th - though for me Virgo is intercepted in 9th, he also puts his NN, Mars-Jupiter-Amor-conjunction into my intercepted 9th house, along with his DESC; while I am putting my DESC conjunct his 3rd house cusp, but from the 2nd house - even though this is a non-romantic-axis, it IS important for us, also in composite house our SN in 3rd and NN in 9th house with mars,Amor, Cupido on the NN- but then Mercury ruling both 7th house does make it rather relationship-oriented, and of course Jupiter rules my 1st house and his 10th house and I would also consider him ruling his 1st house as the traditional ruler)

Chiron is an interesting one. I am still pondering on this one.
There is a clear growing-teaching-learning vibe with it.
Very earthy, too. After all his name means "hand". Healing, growing, learning through touch?

But what category?

to me it seems like a bridge between the karmic/ fated planets and the more personal ones. but I am not sure.


EDIT:
Speaking of our sparkling Mercury, it is even prominent in both nodal axis.


His NN is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) and my SN is ruled by Mercury (Gemini), plus his Mercury actually CONJUNCTS my North Node exactly.

Of course that means he is not only putting his North-Node ruler onto MY North Node, but actually his 7th, 4th and 3rd house ruler is conjunct my North Node.
As unromantic Mercury-conjunct-North Node might look on first glance, I find this to be extremely intriguing.

In the composite chart Mercury rules two sexual houses: 5th house (Gemini) and 8th house (Virgo), and conjuncts Neptune (ruler of 2nd house) in 11th house by 2 degrees.
It is also opposing and in mutual reception with Jupiter in 5th house, Jupiter ruling 11th.
So all succedent house rulers are aligned with each other strongly.

In fact Mercury, Neptune, and Jupiter are not only conjunct and opposite each other, but aligned through paralel and contraparallel.
(the Mercury-Jupiter-opp is a bit wide, almost 7 degrees)
Also the already intriguing Mercury-Neptune-conjunction is joined by dazzling SAPPHO on the same degree as MErcury, and 2 degrees off Neptune.


Mercury: 22.49 S
Neptune: 22.37 S
Sappho: 22.52 S

Jupiter: 22.03 N


The stellium is probably channelled through that Gemini-Jupiter in 5th house, as it is the counter-weight to the three objects in 11th house, though of course it ismore of a seesaw with Mercury, ruling 5th and 8th house.

Not matter how you tweak it, there is quite a bit of 5th, 11th and a little 8th house in this.
Also let us not forget the composite ASC is in Aquarius, DESC in Leo. Karma and Saturn andVertex and Destinn in Leo, and chartruler Uranus in Scorpio on the MC.

So even here we have the fixed signs. no I did not forget Taurus, which is part of another big configuration, including the close conjunction of Eros, Priapus and Dionysos on the IC, and with Juno-Alma conjunction plus true Lilith in Taurus in th house as well.

Seemt he Mercurial rulership leads right into the succedent cross in composite. lol



So that's what's behind "chiropractor"
I think there's much to discover about Chiron in relationship charts. I think there must be a very tangible, earthy, sexual, sensual, physical proximity healing with Chiron then, a very physical connection.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you, Leeloo,

all this effort, and interesting to read. I asn`t aware we had so many romance markers. lol

Well nevertheless I am going to use my solar fire table with reduced asteroids (only the four majors and black moon), but using also 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th harmonics. I am going to cut the minors to 1.30 though.

Oh you asked about Mercury.

Mercury rules a lot of houses for both of us:

For me:
7th and 9th

for him:
3rd, 4th and 7th

as you can see it is the 7th house ruler for both of us (Virgo for him; Gemini for me).

At the same time it rules the "mental polarity" in the 3rd and 9th house (Gemini for his 3rd, Virgo for my 9th - though for me Virgo is intercepted in 9th, he also puts his NN, Mars-Jupiter-Amor-conjunction into my intercepted 9th house, along with his DESC; while I am putting my DESC conjunct his 3rd house cusp, but from the 2nd house - even though this is a non-romantic-axis, it IS important for us, also in composite house our SN in 3rd and NN in 9th house with mars,Amor, Cupido on the NN- but then Mercury ruling both 7th house does make it rather relationship-oriented, and of course Jupiter rules my 1st house and his 10th house and I would also consider him ruling his 1st house as the traditional ruler)

Chiron is an interesting one. I am still pondering on this one.
There is a clear growing-teaching-learning vibe with it.
Very earthy, too. After all his name means "hand". Healing, growing, learning through touch?

But what category?

to me it seems like a bridge between the karmic/ fated planets and the more personal ones. but I am not sure.


EDIT:
Speaking of our sparkling Mercury, it is even prominent in both nodal axis.


His NN is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) and my SN is ruled by Mercury (Gemini), plus his Mercury actually CONJUNCTS my North Node exactly.

Of course that means he is not only putting his North-Node ruler onto MY North Node, but actually his 7th, 4th and 3rd house ruler is conjunct my North Node.
As unromantic Mercury-conjunct-North Node might look on first glance, I find this to be extremely intriguing.

In the composite chart Mercury rules two sexual houses: 5th house (Gemini) and 8th house (Virgo), and conjuncts Neptune (ruler of 2nd house) in 11th house by 2 degrees.
It is also opposing and in mutual reception with Jupiter in 5th house, Jupiter ruling 11th.
So all succedent house rulers are aligned with each other strongly.

In fact Mercury, Neptune, and Jupiter are not only conjunct and opposite each other, but aligned through paralel and contraparallel.
(the Mercury-Jupiter-opp is a bit wide, almost 7 degrees)
Also the already intriguing Mercury-Neptune-conjunction is joined by dazzling SAPPHO on the same degree as MErcury, and 2 degrees off Neptune.


Mercury: 22.49 S
Neptune: 22.37 S
Sappho: 22.52 S

Jupiter: 22.03 N


The stellium is probably channelled through that Gemini-Jupiter in 5th house, as it is the counter-weight to the three objects in 11th house, though of course it ismore of a seesaw with Mercury, ruling 5th and 8th house.

Not matter how you tweak it, there is quite a bit of 5th, 11th and a little 8th house in this.
Also let us not forget the composite ASC is in Aquarius, DESC in Leo. Karma and Saturn andVertex and Destinn in Leo, and chartruler Uranus in Scorpio on the MC.

So even here we have the fixed signs. no I did not forget Taurus, which is part of another big configuration, including the close conjunction of Eros, Priapus and Dionysos on the IC, and with Juno-Alma conjunction plus true Lilith in Taurus in th house as well.

Seemt he Mercurial rulership leads right into the succedent cross in composite. lol



Mercury-Neptune-conjunction is joined by dazzling SAPPHO

WOW... this should be an aspect for a couple of great poets or at least two people sharing a strong mutual love for the arts involving Mercury/Neptune.

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