posted September 05, 2014 11:17 AM            

Sun sextile Karma 0
Karma trine Sun 1

Mercury trine Ceres 0
Ceres square Mercury 2

Mercury quincunx Destinn 0
Destinn square Mercury 1

Venus conjunct Lust 0
Lust trine Venus 2

Mars quincunx Pallas
Pallas square Mars

Mars square Anteros
Anteros quincunx Mars

Jupiter square Psyche
Psyche conjunct Jupiter

NN conjunct Vesta
Vesta sextile NN

posted September 05, 2014 11:38 AM            

Planetary:

Sun (12HR) semisquare Moon (8HR) 0
Moon (11HR) square Sun (8HcoR) 4

Sun (8HcoR) trine MC 8
MC conjunct Sun (12HR) 4

Moon (8HR) quincunx Moon (11HR) 1

Moon (8HR) square Mercury (1HR, 10HR)1
Mercury (7HR, 9HR) quintile Moon (11HR) 1

Moon (8HR) square Venus (2HR, 9HR) 0
Venus (5HR, 10HR) conjunct Moon (11HR) 0

Moon (8HR) quincunx Mars (8HR) 1
Mars (4HR) trine Moon (11HR) 5

Moon (8HR) conjunct Neptune (7HR) 2
Neptune (3HR) biquintile Moon (11HR) 0

Moon (8HR) sextile Pluto (3HR) 2
Pluto (11HR, 12HR) square Moon (11HR) 2

Moon (8HR) trine ASC 1
ASC trine Moon (11HR) 6

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) conjunct Venus (2HR, 9HR) 9
Venus (5HR, 10HR) sextile Mercury (1HR, 10HR) 1

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) trine Mars (8HR) 8
Mars (4HR) opposite Mercury (1HR, 10HR) 5

Mercury (7Hr, 9HR) quintile Jupiter (4HR) 0
Jupiter (1HR) trine Mercury (1HR) 6

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) square Saturn (5HR) 4
Saturn (2HR) quintile Mercury (1HR, 10Hr) 1

Mercury (7HR, 9HR) square Chiron 3
Chiron square Mercury (1HR, 10HR) 6

Venus (5HR, 10HR) sextile Venus (2HR, 9HR) 0

Venus (5HR, 10HR) sextile Mars (8HR) 0
Mars (4HR) opposite Venus (2HR,9HR) 6

Venus (5HR, 10HR) conjunct Jupiter (4HR) 3
Jupiter (1HR) trine Venus (2HR, 9HR) 8

Venus (5HR, 10HR) quincunx Neptune (7HR) 2
Neptune (11HR, 12HR) square Venus (2HR, 9HR) 6

Mars (4HR) trine Jupiter (4HR) 2
Jupiter (1HR) conjunct Mars (8HR) 8

Mars (4HR) sextile MC 1
MC trine Mars (8HR) 0

Jupiter (1HR) sextile Jupiter (4HR) 3

Jupiter (1HR) trine Pluto (3HR) 1
Pluto (11HR,12HR) square Jupiter (4HR) 0

Jupiter (1HR) square ASC 6
ASC trine Jupiter (4HR) 3

Jupiter (1HR) conjunct MC 0
MC sextile Jupiter (4HR) 3

NN opposite ASC 1
ASC sextile NN 2

ASC opposite MC 1
MC semisextile ASC 0

ASC square ASC 5
MC trine MC 7

WOW, i certainly did not expect that much DWs, although the synastry indeed is very good!

posted September 05, 2014 11:43 AM              

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Originally posted by Vajra:
LeeLoo,

I have a question. In your list Moon/Venus is not included - but isn't that a rather interesting pair too, both being fast-moving bodies and therefore not generational like e.g. aspects to Pluto? If it were to be included somewhere, in which department(s) would it go?

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Wow...thank you, Vajra! I simply forgot about it. It's a major romantic and marital aspect, I will include it.

posted September 05, 2014 11:47 AM            

Sun conjunct Amor 3
Amor square Sun 0

Sun conjunct Lust 2
Lust opposite Sun 1

Moon sextile Union 0
Union conjunct Moon 3

Moon conjunct Anteros 3
Anteros conjunct Sun 1

Moon sextile Karma 0
Karma sextile Moon 1

Ceres opposite Ceres 2

BML conjunct ASC 1
ASC conjunct BML 0

Adonis/Innanen DW
Adam/Eva DW
Groom/Bride DW
Orpheus/Eurydike DW
Tristan/Isolda DW
Odin conjunct Sun/Sun conjunct Freia
Alkeste/Admetos DW

posted September 05, 2014 12:09 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

great list and explanations!

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Thank you, Ceri. I fully agree with the IC/7th connection, the 4th house is the house of family members and close, intimate family-like relationships. With a touch of MC for marital relationships, as you pointed out in your past great thread, showing future prospects as an "official" partnership ( it doesn't have to be legally married, just a socially acknowledged couple).

Now, if I am to give an exemplification, I will use your partial list, Ceri, if you don't mind, but thank you all for listing your aspects and I will analyze them one by one.

Here I see, even without rulership:

Starting...
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Sun septile Moon
Moon conjunct Sun(marital, romantic, erotic, fated, especially with the septile)

Sun conjunct Venus (9)
Venus semisextile Sun (0)
- do not feel very comfortable with 9 degree orb though- (romantic) - the orb is wide, I agree but since the sextile is exact, I think it's a DW

Sun quintile Ceres (0)
Ceres septile Sun - marital

Sun sextile Psyche (2)
Psyche sextile Sun (0)
(and Sun-Sun-conjunction and Psyche-Psyche-conjunction) marital-romantic

sun sextile true BML (1)
true BML trine Sun (2)
(and BML opposite BML exact) -romantic-erotic

Moon sextile Uranus (2)
Uranus square Moon (6)- hm I suppose this one depends a lot on rulership

Moon semisextile Valentine (1)
Valentine square Moon (2) romantic

Mercury biquintile Saturn 81)
Saturn square Mercury (1) if Mercury rules love/marriage houses, it could become a relational aspect

Mercury conjunct Neptune (0)
Neptune conjunct Mercury (4) the same, still, rather romantic

Mercury sextile Pluto (0)
Pluto sextile Mercury (3)

Mercury sextile Pallas (0)
Pallas sextile Mercury (0)

Mercury conjunct ASC (2)
ASC square Mercury (0)

Mercury sextile MC (4)
MC conjunct Mercury (3) for all these Mercury aspects, Mercury rulership established if they are to be included in any of the categories

Venus septile Mars
Mars trine Venus (4) marital, romantic, erotic

Venus semisquare Jupiter (0)
Jupiter trine Venus (4) romantic with Jupiter ruling many of Ceri's planets

Venus semisquare NN (0)
Nn trine Venus (4) romantic

Venus square Chiron (5)
Chiron trine Venus (3) romantic

Venus semisquare Ceres (1)
Ceres square Venus (1) romantic

Venus opposite Eros (4)
Eros sextile Venus (2) erotic, a bit romantic too I guess

Venus septile Lust
Lust sextile Venus (0) erotic

Mars opposite Jupiter (0)
Jupiter square Mars (4) erotic

mars square NN (0)
NN square Mars (3) erotic or actional (Mars on nodes sometimes points to a connection pushing us forward in a way, triggering a change)

Mars opposite Ceres (1)
Ceres trine Mars (1) erotic

Saturn sextile Valentine (0)
Valentine trine Saturn 82) marital and romantic

Venus square Uranus (5)
Uranus semisquare Venus (2) romantic (unless Uranus is the ruler of the 7th, in this case it could become marital, or even sexual, if Uranus rules 8th, for instance)

Neptune trine Chiron (0)
Chiron quinkunx neptune (0) romantic, sometimes even erotic if we consider Chiron a tantric planet

Neptune quinkunx Eros (0)
Eros square neptune (1) erotic

Pluto opposite Chiron (1)
chiron quinkunx Pluto (0) I'm not sure about this one, perhaps fated

Pluto square Eros (0)
Eros quinkunx Pluto (0) erotic

Pluto trine Psyche (2)
Psyche sesisquare Pluto (1) romantic and fated

Chiron quintile Lilith (0)
Lilith quinkunx Chiron (0) erotic, perhaps romantic

Vertex sextile Valentine (0)
Valentine trine Vertex (1) romantic

Vertex sextile Lilith (1)
Lilith sextile Vertex (2) romantic

Ceres trine Lust (0)
Lust trine Cres (3) erotic

Ceres conjunct IC (2)
MC quintile Ceres (0) definitely marital

Juno trine Valentine (0)
Valentine trine Juno (2) romantic and marital

Juno quinkunx Lilith (0)
Lilith opposite Juno (2) romantic marital erotic

Vesta opposite Union (3)
Union sextile Vesta (1) marital and erotic

Vesta square Priapus (2)
Priapus sextile Vesta (0) erotic

Pholus trine Eros (2)
Eros conjunct Pholus (1) erotic

Union trine BML (0)
BML sextile Union (1) erotic romantic

Union square Priapus (0)
Priapus trine Union (0) erotic

Eros square ASC (1)
ASC trine Eros (3) erotic and I think romantic too

Psyche conjunct BML (3)
BML opposipte Psyche (4) romantic and fated

So far we have:

about
25 romantic markers
20 erotic markers
10 marital markers
4 fate markers

In most long-term love relationships, usually romantic/erotic markers are about this percentage, between 2 times and equal (to be more precise), unless the relationship is clearly more like a partnership,based on cooperation rather than romance, however, still, this is clearly a potentially very romantic/erotic beautiful relationship, a romance.

What I mean is this relationship is above the average percentage romance/marital.
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posted September 05, 2014 12:23 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

In fact most of the times a composite aspect is the result of a synastric DW (it does not always have to be an aspect even; but the planets will be equidistant from each other).

The other possibility is that two people have the same natal aspect, then it can also come up as composite aspect.

In fact it would probably make sense to start with the composite and work backwards from there.

Of course this is only true with direct DW`s. not the ones made by another planet. Like in the Chiron-Guinevere-Lancelot example.

Chiron is important for us anyway, as he has natally Chiron trine his Mars-Jupiter-Amor (and sextile his Eros), which makes a trine with my Venus.

So a GT in Earth

Chiron-Venus (3)
Mars-Venus (4)
Jupiter-Venus (4)
Amor-Venus (2)

Maybe a tad wide on the orb side, but hey, I am definitely still there.

my Chiron on the other hand is exactly trine my own CUPIDO (and sextile ATROPOS),
and trines his Neptune-CUPIDO on my Proserpina.

Neptune - Chiron (0)
Neptune - Cupido (0)
Cupido - Chiron (1)
Cupido - Cupido (1)

With our DNAs involved (his DNA trine my Cupido, and my DNA sextile his Cupido, all linked to our Pluto-proserpina-Atlantis-theme).

oh and Chiron is part of several Yods in the synastry.

(and it is probably not a coincidence in the composite Chiron is conjunct Atropos exact, opposing Union and squaring the relationship axis. Easy? probably not, but whenever I look at that composite, no, it does not struck me as easy, but it always strikes me as "purposeful")

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What do you think Chiron's place is in these Dimensions, Ceri and everyone?

posted September 05, 2014 12:54 PM            

My DSC is in Gemini, so 7th H ruler is Mercury. His DSC is in Sag (my ASC sign), so his 7th H ruler (and my chart ruler) is Jupiter. My IC is in Pisces, so 4th H ruler is Neptune. His IC is in Virgo (as is my MC), so his 4th H ruler is Mercury. We have a Mercury/Jupiter DW, which ordinarily would have little to do with romantic/emotional/intimate connections, but because of the 4th/7th connection, it might?

posted September 05, 2014 01:05 PM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
CUPIDO is also tremendously useful in synastry as it represents Soulmates and shared karma. These are the souls with whom we have travelled through time and amassed much karma -- be it good and rewarding, or outstanding and to be resolved. In which case, look to HADES (for then) and ADMETOS (for now).

For example, my nSUN is 2°30 conjunct my Guardian's CUPIDO, with my CUPIDO trine his nSUN, also 2°. I natally have CUPIDO=SUN/MOON, 1° showing the importance that Soulmate karma has in regards to my lifetime and present destiny.

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Great posts on hypothetical Admetos and Cupido from a karmic point of view, Aubyanne.

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posted September 05, 2014 01:09 PM              

quote:

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
So, help this preschooler (well, maybe kindergartener) out here.

My DSC is in Gemini, so 7th H ruler is Mercury. His DSC is in Sag (my ASC sign), so his 7th H ruler (and my chart ruler) is Jupiter. My IC is in Pisces, so 4th H ruler is Neptune. His IC is in Virgo (as is my MC), so his 4th H ruler is Mercury. We have a Mercury/Jupiter DW, which ordinarily would have little to do with romantic/emotional/intimate connections, but because of the 4th/7th connection, it might?

Specifically, they are my Mercury sextile his Jupiter (5), and his Mercury Q my Jupiter (0). Not conjunctions or oppositions, so how would you interpret it?

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lol it sounds like a riddle hehehe
I think this definitely qualifies as a marital connection. You are each other's most suitable partner. Also, you feel a mutual pull to share your life together, to live together.

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posted September 05, 2014 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great posts on hypothetical Admetos and Cupido from a karmic point of view, Aubyanne.

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posted September 05, 2014 01:24 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
lol it sounds like a riddle hehehe
I think this definitely qualifies as a marital connection. You are each other's most suitable partner. Also, you feel a mutual pull to share your life together, to live together.

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Ha! It *is* a riddle; or rather, he is a riddle. I thought things were going swimmingly until about 10 day ago. We'll see.

posted September 05, 2014 01:34 PM              

all this effort, and interesting to read. I asn`t aware we had so many romance markers. lol

Well nevertheless I am going to use my solar fire table with reduced asteroids (only the four majors and black moon), but using also 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th harmonics. I am going to cut the minors to 1.30 though.

Oh you asked about Mercury.

Mercury rules a lot of houses for both of us:

For me:
7th and 9th

for him:
3rd, 4th and 7th

as you can see it is the 7th house ruler for both of us (Virgo for him; Gemini for me).

At the same time it rules the "mental polarity" in the 3rd and 9th house (Gemini for his 3rd, Virgo for my 9th - though for me Virgo is intercepted in 9th, he also puts his NN, Mars-Jupiter-Amor-conjunction into my intercepted 9th house, along with his DESC; while I am putting my DESC conjunct his 3rd house cusp, but from the 2nd house - even though this is a non-romantic-axis, it IS important for us, also in composite house our SN in 3rd and NN in 9th house with mars,Amor, Cupido on the NN- but then Mercury ruling both 7th house does make it rather relationship-oriented, and of course Jupiter rules my 1st house and his 10th house and I would also consider him ruling his 1st house as the traditional ruler)

Chiron is an interesting one. I am still pondering on this one.
There is a clear growing-teaching-learning vibe with it.
Very earthy, too. After all his name means "hand". Healing, growing, learning through touch?

But what category?

to me it seems like a bridge between the karmic/ fated planets and the more personal ones. but I am not sure.

EDIT:
Speaking of our sparkling Mercury, it is even prominent in both nodal axis.

His NN is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) and my SN is ruled by Mercury (Gemini), plus his Mercury actually CONJUNCTS my North Node exactly.

Of course that means he is not only putting his North-Node ruler onto MY North Node, but actually his 7th, 4th and 3rd house ruler is conjunct my North Node.
As unromantic Mercury-conjunct-North Node might look on first glance, I find this to be extremely intriguing.

In the composite chart Mercury rules two sexual houses: 5th house (Gemini) and 8th house (Virgo), and conjuncts Neptune (ruler of 2nd house) in 11th house by 2 degrees.
It is also opposing and in mutual reception with Jupiter in 5th house, Jupiter ruling 11th.
So all succedent house rulers are aligned with each other strongly.

In fact Mercury, Neptune, and Jupiter are not only conjunct and opposite each other, but aligned through paralel and contraparallel.
(the Mercury-Jupiter-opp is a bit wide, almost 7 degrees)
Also the already intriguing Mercury-Neptune-conjunction is joined by dazzling SAPPHO on the same degree as MErcury, and 2 degrees off Neptune.

Mercury: 22.49 S
Neptune: 22.37 S
Sappho: 22.52 S

Jupiter: 22.03 N

The stellium is probably channelled through that Gemini-Jupiter in 5th house, as it is the counter-weight to the three objects in 11th house, though of course it ismore of a seesaw with Mercury, ruling 5th and 8th house.

Not matter how you tweak it, there is quite a bit of 5th, 11th and a little 8th house in this.
Also let us not forget the composite ASC is in Aquarius, DESC in Leo. Karma and Saturn andVertex and Destinn in Leo, and chartruler Uranus in Scorpio on the MC.

So even here we have the fixed signs. no I did not forget Taurus, which is part of another big configuration, including the close conjunction of Eros, Priapus and Dionysos on the IC, and with Juno-Alma conjunction plus true Lilith in Taurus in th house as well.

Seemt he Mercurial rulership leads right into the succedent cross in composite. lol

posted September 05, 2014 03:24 PM            

- his Adonis conjunct my Aphrodite 6, Aphrodite semisextile Adonis 0
- his Eros sextile my Psyche 0
- Amor trine Amor 0
- composite Amor trine Psyche 0
- his Poseidon conjunct my Amphitrite 0 on his IC 0 and my DSC 1 (!)
- his Groom quintile my Briede 1, my Groom conjunct his Briede 0 and conjunct A-P
btw, his Groom conjunct my ICR Jupiter 0 and trine my Union 0 in the 4th, my Briede conjunct his ASCR Pluto-Juno 0 and sextile his Union 0 in the 1st
- his King square my Queen 4, my King(-Mars) conjunct his Queen(-Mars) 6
- his Cyllarus trine my Hylonome 0
- his Ariadne trine my Dionysus 2, my Ariadne trine his Bacchus 3
- composite Bacchus opposite Ariadne 6
- his Paris semisquare my Helena 0, my Paris conjunct his Helena 6
- his Galatea conjunct my Pygmalion 4, my Galatea quintile his Pygmalion 1
- Pygmalion semisextile Pygmalion 0
- Galatea semisquare Galatea 0
- his Tristan trine my Isolda 1, my Tristan quincunx his Isolda 0
- his Amenhotep conjunct my Nefretiti 9, my Amenhotep sextile his Nefretiti 2
- Nefretiti conjunct Nefretiti 4
- his Isis opposite my Osiris 4
- Osiris opposite Osiris 1 (our angles ivolved)
- Ptah square Ptah 0
- his Endymion conjunct my Selene 6, my Endymion sesquisquare his Selene 1
- Endymion square Endymion 1
- composite Siegfried semisextile Kriemhild 0
- his Artemis conjunct my Endymion 1
- his Donar sextile my Sif 1
- his Balder trine my Nanna 1, my Balder semisquare his Nanna 2
- his Siegfried trine my Kriemhild 0, my Siegfried sextile his Kriemhild 0
btw, his S opposite my Sun 0 and his K opposite my Moon 0 :O
- his Siva conjunct my Parvati 6, my Rudra sextile his Tara 0, my Shankar sesquisquare his Tara 0, his Mahakala trine my Kaali 2, his Hara opposite my Kaali 5, my Hara sesquisquare his Parvati 0
- Rudra conjunct Siva 0, Rudra sextile Rudra 1
- composite Kaali sextile Shankar 2 and Tara opposite Shankar 3

I'm waiting for my chocolate ^^

posted September 05, 2014 05:32 PM              

Moon opposite Saturn 0, Moon novile Saturn 0

Moon semi square Pluto (ASC ruler) 1, Moon sesquisquare Pluto (DSC ruler) 2

ASC square MC 3, ASC square MC 3

ASC conjunct DSC 5 (they are DW in my cheat sheet lol)

MC sextile Uranus (IC ruler) 3, MC sesquisquare Uranus (MC ruler) 2

Venus (DSC ruler) sextile Mars (DSC co-ruler) 4, Venus (ASC ruler) novile Mars (ASC co-ruler) 1

Moon trine Venus 8, Moon biquintile Venus 1

Venus (ASC ruler) conjunct Jupiter (2nd ruler) 6, Venus (DSC ruler) trine Jupiter (8th ruler) 2

Sun conjunct Uranus 9 (MC rulers conjunct), Sun conjunct Uranus 7 (IC rulers conjunct)

Mercury conjunct Uranus 9 (5th and 2nd ruler conjunct IC ruler), Mercury conjunct Uranus (8th and 11th ruler conjunct MC ruler) 7

Mars trine Uranus (IC ruler) 5, Mars square Uranus (MC ruler) 1

Mars quincunx ASC 1, Mars sesquisquare ASC 0

Mars trine Jupiter (8th ruler) 1, Mars triseptile Jupiter 0

Mars (ASC co-ruler) semisquare Pluto (DSC ruler) 0, Mars (DSC co-ruler) quadranovile Pluto (ASC ruler) 0

Asteroids on the drop down menu:

BML conjunct Sun 0, BML square Sun 2

BML semisextile Neptune 0, BML square Neptune 2

BML square Nodes 0, BML sextile NN 0

Ceres sextile Saturn 1, Ceres quincunx Saturn 0

Ceres quincunx Jupiter 1, Ceres sesquisquare Jupiter 1

Juno square Nodes 2, Juno semisquare NN 1

Juno square Juno 0 (marital qualities clash)

Pallas square Neptune 0, Pallas semisquare Neptune 1 (psychic connection I guess)

I hope I've not exhausted you with my list, I've kept it simple.

posted September 05, 2014 05:53 PM            

what Moira and Lechesis mean in synastry? Honestly, I've never heard of them. These 2 conjunct in our synastry EXACT (my Moira).

His Moira conjunct my Werdandi (another asteroid I've never heard of).

posted September 05, 2014 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
a quick question,

what Moira and Lechesis mean in synastry? Honestly, I've never heard of them. These 2 conjunct in our synastry EXACT (my Moira).

His Moira conjunct my Werdandi (another asteroid I've never heard of).

Another question, is asterooid House...whats that all about?

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Here are some links that should help answer most of your questions:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002791.html

and
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000854.html

posted September 06, 2014 05:48 AM              

Of course, Briede and Groom are also after names, but being such a nice pair maybe we should keep them. What do you think?

Asteroid House is also name related, but being a nice English name meaning "home", I think we may keep it to see if the pair has a common house (live together, want to live together).

posted September 06, 2014 06:16 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Just letting you know I've excluded asteroid Boda from the list. It is named after German astronomer Karl Boda and even if Boda means "wedding" in Spanish, I'm not sure we should approach asteroids this way. The same goes for asteroids Lova Lovas Lovejoy which were not on my list for the same reason - for example asteroid Lovas is named after Hungarian researcher Miklos Lovas. In all these cases, no relation to the English word "love". The same goes for Sado, which I do not recommend to be used for "sadism" since it's named after Sado island in Japan, or Soulie (George Soulie, a French monsieur). I think giving meanings to asteroids just because they resemble a certain English word is a bit foolish and somehow culturally colonialistic . Maybe Lovejoy should be kept, being an English name and we all work in English here? Mr. Lovejoy is Australian

Of course, Briede and Groom are also after names, but being such a nice pair maybe we should keep them. What do you think?

Asteroid House is also name related, but being a nice English name meaning "home", I think we may keep it to see if the pair has a common house (live together, want to live together).

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posted September 06, 2014 06:45 AM              

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Originally posted by Selene:

But the same applies to [b]Destinn, but it sure as hell works the way we perceive it, giving that destined feeling![/B]

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You are right, I didn't know this. In this case, Destinn should be used as a marker for a great voice, for singing. Sometimes there's a lot of autosuggestion involved in things "working". What if Boda means something in German or Mr' Karl Boda's original language? I don't speak German The thing is, I think we should keep the meaning of the symbol (like opera singer Emmy Destinn) or at least the meaning of the word in its original language, that's why I was saying House might work.

EDIT: Sorry, Mr Boda is German.
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