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YIVY Knowflake Posts: 4747 From: Louisiana Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 13, 2000 08:12 PM
Does anyone else ever wonder what happened with Linda's Twin S-elf, Robert Brewer? I know that in Gooberz she ended it with her getting back with him, but that was not the TRUE ending. She never did get with him again in this lifetime. Has anyone ever found information about who he was and what really happened. I understand he was much younger than her. I wonder how his life was changed by his time with Linda... ------------------
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YIVY Knowflake Posts: 4747 From: Louisiana Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 13, 2000 08:14 PM
Also have any of you found your T-WIN...and if so what happened. ------------------
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 14, 2000 12:51 AM
All I k-NOW about her relationship with Robert is that it puzzled Linda, because they had such harmonious aspects, yet they had a lot of trouble and heartache together (but not all of the time, of course). ------------------ "You have not lived a perfect day, even though you earned your money, unless you have done something for someone who will never be able to repay you." Ruth Smeltzer IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 14, 2000 10:02 PM
Oh wow, great topic I wish Linda and Robert's relationship would have turned out as lovely as in Gooberz. I'm sure his life was affected by Linda. If she's affected me, and I never met her in person, or had the joy of having a conversation with her while she was Linda...I'm sure that guy will never forget her. Ever. I have very complicated lessons myself this time around. I know of two people in my life who are very close soul-wise to me. One is the Cappy man, and the other is an Aquarius. Complete polar opposites personality wise. God, my stories could fill books...and in fact they will someday! My life is a screenplay, what can I say. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 14, 2000 11:42 PM
I'd pay to see the movie! ------------------ "He who fears he shall suffer already suffers what he fears." Michael de Montaigne IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 15, 2000 10:04 PM
In fact you might! It's very probable. I've kept diaries and journals over the years, and between that and my poetry there's over 3,000 pages of goodies! It's a little bit much. I don't know what people will think someday when they read it all. I have seven years of Tarot reading entries, Astrology, daily happenings, my life, all as it is together poured onto paper. I promise, it will be very entertaining, enlightening, and 100% true. I think that's part of the reason why I'm trying to save money to put out the books myself, I don't think any publishing house would be interested in it, it's a little "out there". It's going to take a long time to get it all done, most of my stuff is hand written, and over the past two years I've only been able to type 1/8th of it. I don't want money someday from it, I want to help people. If I make one person smile, or say to themselves, "yes, I've been there" I'll be happy My life will sound like fiction at times. But, it's not! I'm a very paranoid person, especially about my writing. I'm always afraid it will get lost or destroyed or something. If something ever happened to it, I don't know what I'd do. Does anyone here write or keep journals? Does anyone record their dreams, do astrological charts and keep them, or anything similar? IP: Logged |
Tator Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 17, 2000 11:59 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new here. How long has this site been around?Anyway, Robert Brewer lives in Seattle and apparently wants to remain private. He's married to the "tall sure Scorpio" and he won't answer any queries about his association with Linda. I found my Twin, but as many Twin relationships go, we aren't destined to be together this time around on the Earth Plane. I know in my heart that we WILL be together, and HAVE been together and that we are indeed Snowflake halves who are growing and learning difficult karmic lessons. I've met one other person who has met her Twin and has acknowledged it as such. There is pain with this kind of relationship often- Linda knew that well. I take tremendous comfort from Linda's wisdom and work, but one must always follow one's OWN intuition, and one must always think for oneself in spiritual matters. Though Gooberz is a wise and magical work, things did not turn out the way it projects. I think most of you know that, but it's important to remember that when assessing our own situations. Peace, Tator IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 18, 2000 03:21 AM
The Gooberz ending COULD have happened, and Linda's Lesson to all of us is that we alone are responsible for the outcomes. ------------------ "He who fears he shall suffer already suffers what he fears." Michael de Montaigne IP: Logged |
Tator Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 18, 2000 05:05 PM
True Randall, very true. We are indeed responsible for our own outcomes, BUT when my story was playing out almost exactly as Linda's story (very eerie) as depicted in Gooberz, it was a terrible disappointment to find out what really happened between her and Goober. Granted, it was my choice to believe what I was reading, but it took me a long time to overcome my disappointment that came from finding out that Linda wrote about what she WISHED would have happened. From a strictly personal standpoint, I would have benefitted more by knowing how she handled her own devastating heartbreak. Twin relationships are more often than not heartbreaking in this lifetime- not for all, but for most. Have you met your Twin? I feel for Linda's loss, and realize now how her last years were without the man she loved. I know she came to terms with it eventually, but imagine how she must have felt. Robert was not the man that she portrayed him to be.Be peaceful, Tator IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 18, 2000 06:00 PM
Hi, Tator. I agree. Robert was not who Linda wished him to be. His Soul WAS, but often when we cloak our Soul with the illusion/delusion of this physical existence, we distort who we really are. Our Life experiences become so influential that we lose sight of the Us-of-us. In Life, she tried to rescue him, but in doing so, Linda failed to save her S-elf. Just as she wrote about (that might happen, if One is not careful), the rescuer became the lost. But do not despair. I DO feel that Linda did the right thing by adhering to the fairy tale ending, because THAT is our goal, is it not? Without believing in happy endings, we would not even make the attempt. Even through the pain of loss and rejection, the Soul experiences growth. Isn't that why we are here in the first place? No, I have never met my Twin, but I do beLIeVE that it will happen and that it will last. My Higher S-elf demands no less from me. If I or we mess things up, we will have another chance to make it right. The One true promise is that sooner or later both halves will get it right and re-Unite. Success is assured! And, in the mean time, though our physical Hearts continue to break, our Souls relish the experiences and learn through growth so that the next time might be the right time. Pain and suffering is never easy, but to the Soul, they are as valuable as Love, pleasure, joy, and happiness! ------------------ "He who fears he shall suffer already suffers what he fears." Michael de Montaigne IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 18, 2000 06:05 PM
Hi Tator! Very nice to meet you I myself have met my other half, and you are right, it is very painful...very joyous on one hand, and very painful on the other. Linda's optimism at the end of Gooberz I did appreciate, it did give me faith, but you're right in the sense that pretty much 90% of the time when you meet your twin soul on this fleshly plain things don't work out so well. I've had to let my other half go, because I know he has many lessons in this life to get through, for his own spiritual growth, that don't involve me...and I can't be a part of it. It's a hands-off kind of situation in that respect. And speaking of respect, that is what the people I know of who have met their other half...feel for their other half. Respect. You love the other part of you so deeply, that you will let them go, and learn what they need to learn, do what they have to do, no matter how much it tears your soul apart...because more than anything you just want to feel that persons soul close to you in proximity. It aches. I ache every day for the other half of me, and there is not a day that goes by that I don't think of him, though we haven't been in constant communication for two years. Recently, I had a one year relationship with a man, who I loved dearly as a person, and I had some lessons to learn from him. Though our relationship ended, he taught me some very valuable soul lessons, and he will always have a special place in my heart...he was a Gemini. I think Linda's relationship with Robert was not one sided. I'm sure that he felt something for her. But, I also believe that she was more awakened because of her perception to their special relationship...which is a great burden. Many times one twin is awake, while the other sleeps. The sleeping one has much to work out in this lifetime with themselves and others. Robert no doubt had some issues to work out with this Scorpio woman. Linda's love for Robert in the end of Gooberz was real, and I believe it implies what love between two halves can be, in its greatest way on Earth, without physical limitations or obligations. Obligations on this plane keep us from our other halves. If we manage to work out our obligations, and the half that is sleeping is allowed to awaken...then...well, you could just imagine. IP: Logged |
Mele Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Coral Castle Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 20, 2000 08:23 PM
Gooberlily wrote:"Many times one twin is awake, while the other sleeps. The sleeping one has much to work out in this lifetime with themselves and others." I like this concept. I think mine is snoozing right now. I did, too. but whenever we meet, we're always happy and love & passion are always there. More like coming home. Like a couple of lazy big cats, too. We have too many obstacles right now to be able to live in one area though not really too bad now since we both can travel to see each other now and then. Twin S-elf Concept is fascinating, but one needs to be careful with Twin Soul/Soul Mate concept because more often than not, it can lead to break up marriages, relationships & friendships. Lots of people have mistaken the feelings for "soulmate connection" when it is merely nothing more than infatuation or just an obsession, etc. Look at what happened to Linda From what I understand ... she felt Robert Brewer had the same soul that was in her 1st husband, Bill who died. You know..Robert was around 22 years younger. He left. But she held on hope that he'd be back, continuing to set her dining table with his plate. At the end she reached out to her 2nd husband, Sam Goodman who had died before her, "come and take me home." Whatever she had experienced .. it caused her to inspire us all on Earth with her beautiful writings, poetry, her wonderful teachings of the Uni-Verse Secret Codes and Astrology. Especially about love and twin soul. I would rather to decide after many years of experiences with my beloved apart and together before I can add "z" to the end of Goober. He thinks we are so different from each other. I did, too. We need to look closer to see that we're not. We both share our music with people separately. He plays guitar/keyboard. I danced. We both go out to help people with their computers in different ways. He is Real Estate broker and I am a pro with Real Estates ads which won an award. We're both Southern. We both went to schools in same small town. We both went to same church. Now we both take care of our Moms. We're both independent. He's not deaf which I am, but that doesn't make us different, really. Not much. I really thought we were so different from each other, but later on when I looked closer, realized that we're not really different from each other. But think about this: If I didn't become deaf, I wouldn't come to his hometown at age of 4 to attend boarding school for the deaf and later met him at age of 14 going on 15. Our paths kept crossing over the years elsewhere. We both married others more than once which ended in divorces. I noticed recently a painting of him in 1st grade with a pad & pen in his pocket like he was waiting to write me notes to communicate. I did have a painting like that when I was 4 which I haven't been able to locate. Apparently, one of my teachers ordered it and it hung in the library for a short while. I wouldn't be surprised if we had the very same artist! Oh, he doesn't like cats. I love them. I hope someday he will resolve his bad feelings for cats not, for me, but for his own sake ... to evolve, right? I had to about snakes by watching TV program about them and understood that they're needed for eurosystem & respect them for what they are. We don't even need to talk in person much. Our looks, touch, etc. speak for themselves plus our energies flowing back & forth as one. It is like we are psychic connected. Even if I complain sometimes about him not saying "I love you", there is no need for us to say "I love you". We both k-NOW. (once he said to me "I think you do k-Now.") It's like we're in a circle with labyrinth. Different paths, but always get to cross paths or meet somewhere. We meet in the middle in sensuous zone. (his own words) Do I believe in Twin S-elves? Yes, I do. Just take care not to read too much into anything no matter what. Just experience it. Be wise. True love is within you. Has anyone heard of Emanuel Swedenborg, the 17th century Swedish philosopher and mystic? I've read his writings. He says, "Those who are truly married on earth are in heaven one angel." His account is so compelling because he was a world renowned scientist with an IQ of 200 and he wrote about the Afterlife with the keen mind of a person that demanded to know truth. His writings are so rational to me. People like Helen Keller, Abraham Lincoln, Ralph Emerson and others were deeply influenced by his writings. He interpreted the Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek inspired by angels who came to visit him and spoke to him. Except for one thing: Swedenborg says there is no reincarnation. Hmmmm...never mind that. Love & Peace Mele IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 20, 2000 09:07 PM
Hi Mele, thanks for the story, that was really cool And I hadn't heard of Swendenborg until you mentioned him! Great quote from him. Hmm...looks like I have some more reading to do I think it's great that yOu have a psychic connection of sorts with your other half. Psychic bonds tie very strongly in this world, and give proof, and reassurance at times. Treasure what you have with your love some people don't have the joy of it! IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 20, 2000 09:08 PM
I'm a very smiley person tonight, in case you all haven't noticed heheh.IP: Logged |
Mele Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Coral Castle Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 20, 2000 09:31 PM
Hey, Goober LilyWhat's so funny about my story? Ha! ha! Here's another one for you Ain't Love Grand? Mele IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 21, 2000 02:01 AM
------------------ "The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois IP: Logged |
Mele Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Coral Castle Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 24, 2000 09:31 PM
My "Twin S-Elf" has said to me "She is Very Special to me. I feel cosmic connected to her. We are Soul Mates." when I asked him why he put up a pix of her (none of me around)in his closet the last time I was over his house and if she had anything to do with his stopping calling me a special pet name or was it just a coincidence. I was jealous. Couldn't help it. I've struggled. But I am a Lioness with Pride which you'd call every Leo's Waterloo. Real or false plus Mars in Scorpio. A tough Leo woman to deal with, right? I had felt as though I was truly a part of him. If he's "snoozing"..well..It's his Free Will Tinker Toys. Maybe It's time for me to fly away and go where the wind blows? I cannot imagine why he'd say that to me, the woman he'd been intimate with. Our lovemaking had always been Soul and Body blending kind..too perfect. Spiritual kind. He had always been so affection with me whenever he saw me. Geeeeeez!! Something you never excepted. Randall is right. True Love is within you. Not the planets. Our synastry charts showed how powerful tied we are (especially where it showed our strong psychic connection bonds) and composite chart which is like an X-ray showed more powerful ties. I think maybe I ought to move on and find someone who'd love me like I'd love him. Well, just maybe. This is life. Maybe I will learn something more. Love to you all, Mele IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 24, 2000 10:07 PM
Hi, Mele. Despite the pain, your Soul has been greatly enriched by the experience. The two of you shall meet again... ------------------ "The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois IP: Logged |
Tator Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 24, 2000 10:28 PM
Thanks for the welcome everyone. I've been away for a few days, and only now have gotten back to my computer.Twin stories are always very interesting, and there are threads of similarity in them. VERY rarely is it the man who loses the woman on this Earth Plane. This has everything to do with the Isis/Osiris legend which Linda undoubtedly would have gotten into if she had ever published "Twelfth Night Secrets". It's the woman, (Isis) who has to let her man (Osiris) go off to learn. I've now heard this theme over and over. My Twin also had found himself with other women Mele...not just one, because no "one" will truly satisfy the longing he feels. I have learned to let him go after acknowledging that there is incredible magic between us that scares him, and that he's not ready for in this lifetime. It's a maturity thing too. We have to have faith that through these difficult lessons, we're getting closer and closer to the time that we CAN finally be together again. Maybe the next lifetime, maybe the one after, but it's wierd isn't it, to KNOW that THIS person, is indeed the Twin. It's amazing. I've had other relationships, but THIS one, was the one. Another characteristic of Twin relationships is that they're never quite "over"...how can they be? We have the choice of course to contact or not contact our Twin, but they keep popping up. No matter how much I love Linda, and I do, I cannot abide by the ending of Gooberz. Perhaps it's the strong Aquarius and Sagittarius influence in me (I'm a Sun Pisces) which both crave the truth at all costs, but Linda's words would have served me better had she told the story as it was. I was in dire need of truth, not fantasy- even though eventually the fantasy will be the reality. Her words are magic, and the truth was harder for me to deal with when I finally found out what happened by other people. Mr. Brewer has a lot to learn. I'm getting the flavor of the other Linda Goodman site in this one. How are the two sites different? Obviously they're run by different people, but are they associated in any way? I grew very disappointed with the other site. A friend told me about this one. Who can tell me a little about it? Peace, Tator IP: Logged |
YIVY Knowflake Posts: 4747 From: Louisiana Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 24, 2000 11:43 PM
Tator..just love that name Anyway, I was also upset when I read the ending in Gooberz was not the true one and felt betrayed. In time I came to realize she wrote it that way cause it was, after all, a Fairy Tale...and I feel the true ending was too painful to imagine. In her heart, she always felt the ending she "dreamed" would turn out to be real...she was one of the great romantics in her heart. The whole story is sad. Anyway it is seen differently by each one that reads it...each separte heart that shares the story creates their own ending. It was meant that way. Like you, also, I like this site..it is different and more freely expressive...this site flows. ------------------
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Mele Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Coral Castle Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 25, 2000 12:06 AM
((Randal)) Thank you for your kind words. I realize I'd get enriched by this experience. We shall see what happens. If we are truly connected, I'd LOVE to cut the rope and let him drown. Ha!! Sorry, but there's human side of me.Love, Mele IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 25, 2000 03:49 AM
Mele, it's our humanity that makes us so special! Tator, we are not associated with the other site in any way. Both sites have their advantages and disadvantages, I suppose. From a legal standpoint, the other site is the only "official" Linda Goodmnan site. From a Uni-versal standpoint, I have vowed to keep this site centered on Linda Goodman and largely away from commercialism. I want this to be a place Linda would be proud to call home. I hope I am doing a good job. ------------------ "The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois IP: Logged |
Donna Knowflake Posts: 672 From: Mechanicsburg, Pa. USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 25, 2000 01:40 PM
Oh boy, I must have missed something really big. I always thought the ending of Gooberz was fact, not fantasy! I mean, I did know they eventually broke up, but I truly thought they made up. Hmm, can anyone tell me more? I did read on the other site somewhere that someone said she died of a broken heart. I have always been curious about this Robert Brewer and what he looks like and how he felt about Linda, truly. Especially, since she always gave him credit in all her books as a technical advisor and she always said a "Lion, bornfree," came to visit once in awhile. So, I always thought they remained friends and in contact. Donna IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 24237 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 25, 2000 02:49 PM
Hi, Donna. I am speaking from intuition only, and so I am not entirely sure, but I feel as if Robert left Linda at some point for another woman. If we have a few people here who are aware of the details, please share them with us. ------------------ "The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois IP: Logged |
Mele Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Coral Castle Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 25, 2000 05:43 PM
I honestly don't think Robert left Linda for another woman. I really think he left because she had a hot temper and was almost impossible to live with. From what I read in People's Magazine not long after her death, he walked out on her when he was 26 yr old Marine Biologist. I think he loved her. She was probably right to end Gooberz story the way she did because it's true that Twin Selves do come together. Eventually.Expect a Miracle!! Mele IP: Logged | |