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Topic: Coming Off Meds
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 13411
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 16, 2005 01:42 PM
 
LOL! I had a pesky Sag little brother. He was the "favorite" child.  I know how it goes.IP: Logged |
neptune's mermaid
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posted February 16, 2005 01:46 PM
Really!? I love dealing with you, lol. If you want I can send you my little Leo sister!! She has Gemini rising and Moon. Getting her to shut up is impossible - no offence to the Gems  She'll carry on talking even after you've gone to sleep  She's great for when you're suffering from insomnia
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neptune's mermaid
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posted February 16, 2005 01:53 PM
I'm not the favourite child with my mum  she's a Libra and I'm pretty sure she loves the Aqua more than me  The three Aries in my chart oppose her Libra Sun, lol. Darn my chart, lol
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 16, 2005 06:09 PM
Thanks everyone, for your kind words of sympathy and firm encouragement. I think you are all very interesting people, and I look forward to all our exchanges.Tink, I have to apologize to you for my insensitive reply. I am very sensitive to judgement, and, as you see, can become quite defensive in this respect. To me, judgement differs from mere opinion when it entails a negative emotional element, just as understanding differs when it entails a positive emotional element. It is one thing to observe impartially, "That man is a sinner." It is another thing to validate your feelings of disgust, pity, or sympathy for that man. I like to think of myself as a very tolerant person. But, you see, I find myself becoming the greatest hypocrite alive, when the one thing I cannot permit myself to tolerate is intolerance. Ultimately, more than anythig else, it is intolerance which I must learn to look upon with understanding.
Danny, yes, I know, I know. But, I am convinced that a lack of gnosis, and not will, is at the crux of every problem. It is easy to say "Shut up and DO something" (in so many words), but, I believe there is a time to every purpose under the heavens. And, yes, there is even a time to analyze yourself to death (symbollically speaking, of course).
Maya, I think we understand each other so well that I may have nothing much to say to you - lol! But I do love your posts, so I'll say that.
neptune's mermaid, thanks for the confidence boost. And, dont worry, I LOVE my Scorpio eyes. It is probably the one thing I possess of which I am unabashedly proud. But, "with great power comes great responsibility", and I have yet to harness this power, so as to use it responsibly. I think maybe Danny was on to something, when he suggested that this may be largely circumstantial, and (in my own words) far more circumstantial than my "existential" vanity would like to admit. Perhaps I just havent met the right girl; the one who will not shy from my gaze, but will invite it with enthusiasm. I grew up in a very Waspy household - every time I displayed my boundless passion for anything, my parents got scared and suggested it was perhaps time for another visit to the psych-ward. I remember my father, telling my shrink in a very concerned tone, about how I stayed up all night studying something as (to his mind) dubious as astrology. "Should we be worried?" LOL!!! I have GOT to get out of here.
God Bless,
hsc
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TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 16, 2005 11:29 PM
No need to apologize.  I didn't find you insensitive at all. Although I won't go so far as to say I enjoy them, judgemental sorts do not normally offend me. Largely, I think, because I do not particularly mind being judged.
I do get a bit irritated when Jwhop tells me I'm a red b*astard commie - but who wouldn't?To feel disgust for the sin is awfully different than feeling disgust for the sinner, no? I can't offhand think of any sin of which I haven't been guilty at one point or another. And on the occasions when I feel compelled to think myself above such things, I remember ... "Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world. But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you, So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also." IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus
Knowflake Posts: 2474
From: upstate NY, USA
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 16, 2005 11:34 PM
HSC now that you've mentioned your Scorpio eyes I feel it an okay place for me to ask - especially since photos don't always show this...but I MUST know haha, what color are they and are they very piercing? All the Scorpios I've met have very green piercing eyes, very nice IP: Logged |
sue g
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From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted February 18, 2005 01:31 PM
Hi HSC, I too am a Scorpio (5 planets in) who has always suffered from depression........if its any help, I feel growing older helps, I am now 46 and feel the best I ever have in my life. I started singing about a year ago and it really helped to lift the black cloud. St Johns Wort helped and reiki healing and psycotherapy was a lifesaver. What age are you,Id say you are quite young, so dont give up hope I am sure as time goes on you will be fine and yes there are decent women out there, just keep on looking. Good luck, sending Irish luck x x x x x xIP: Logged |
Diogenes of Sinope
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: North Andover, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted February 18, 2005 02:27 PM
tink - Great quote!!
I agree with almost everything you said,
but I dont think disgust, for anything under the sun, needs to be justified.vtt - I wish you would feel free to ask me anything, whenever the slightest fancy takes you, and i will do my best not to read into it. My eyes are bluish-green. sue - Thanks. I'm 26. Glad to hear you're doing so well. I'm looking into reiki right now myself. i'll let you know how it pans out. thanks again,
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TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 18, 2005 09:58 PM
Diogenes?  I like!How goes the search?
I can't tell you how many times I've had to silently repeat that quote to myself. Works every damn time though. 
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TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 18, 2005 10:27 PM
And you don't disgust me. Honest.IP: Logged |
Diogenes of Sinope
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: North Andover, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted February 19, 2005 10:19 AM
My sin disgusts you.
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maya-v
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posted February 19, 2005 10:39 AM
something so purely humane can never disgust anyone  IP: Logged |
Diogenes of Sinope
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From: North Andover, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted February 19, 2005 11:11 AM
If no one else, it disgusts ME."He who despises himself,
still respects himself as one who despises." - Nietzsche ((Alas, there are only red,
and no blue kisses)) IP: Logged |
Diogenes of Sinope
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: North Andover, MA, USA
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posted February 19, 2005 11:13 AM
11:11IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 19, 2005 11:13 AM
Of which sin exactly do you think yourself guilty? maya ~ with all due respect, how would I presume to know Diogenes' level of "pure humanity" and why would I assume it is greater than yours or mine? IP: Logged |
Danny
Knowflake Posts: 210
From: I wanna be where you are
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted February 19, 2005 11:17 AM
F*ck, you guys are too much from me. I feel so low for reading the dialogue between you. It makes me feel so unworthy, or should I say I am using it to contribute to the way I am beating myself up right now for being me.The saying 'just because nobody understands what you speak, it doesnt necessarily mean what your saying is deep'. That helped me justify how, quite frankly, crap I am with communicating myself and, in turn, letting people in.
It truly makes me wanna give up cos I just feel nobody is ever gonna truly reach me, you know. I am sorry to gate crash and kill the mood but I just wanted someone to tell me it will be fine. IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 19, 2005 11:19 AM
Danny Boy ~ it will be fine I think the trick is reaching yourself first. IP: Logged |
Danny
Knowflake Posts: 210
From: I wanna be where you are
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted February 19, 2005 11:22 AM
Thank TINK. I'm all woman though! You see, that's how crap I am. Cant even communicate my sex.IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 19, 2005 11:25 AM
No, no! It's a nod to the old song - because of the tink-y-dink thingy. I was just sending you back a little of the same.IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 19, 2005 11:27 AM
And no worries. Communicating my sex is maybe last on my list of priorities. I certainly don't expect it from anyone else. IP: Logged |
maya-v
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posted February 19, 2005 11:28 AM
I wish I was an eagle's feather so the cold northerly could bear me away ...If you notice I only respond to your posts ... why would I want you to hold back your fervor or the depth of your honesty?That is the essence of you and makes you the person so close to my heart ... Make no allowances or apologies for who you are, for the sun makes no allowances for shining down on the frozen bird, neither does it stop shining when it kills the thirsty wanderer with its merciless glory Love Maya IP: Logged |
Danny
Knowflake Posts: 210
From: I wanna be where you are
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted February 19, 2005 11:30 AM
Oh, OK Tink
Listen to me whine. I hate it. I dont wanna be that person.OK, I'm over it. I figure the trick is not to even try. I am so tired of trying, constantly apsiring, perspiring, I'm fed up. I just want to connect with everyone, in the way I see people do here. In the way that my friends connect with each other. I guess thats what you mean by reaching yourself first. I dunno, I'll figure it out. Thats all part of the fun, right? IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 19, 2005 11:35 AM
It is difficult to maintain an honest approach to others before an honest (and sometimes painful, I'm afraid) assesment of our own self has occured. To see our own mirror reflection clearly is the first step.IP: Logged |
Diogenes of Sinope
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: North Andover, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted February 19, 2005 11:36 AM
Tink -You ask "which sin", but sin is not a plurality. There are no sins; there is only sin. I dont think maya was referring to you personally, Tink. She was trying to remind me of my own unique humanity - but not implying that mine is more or less unique than any other. We are all unique in our own way, and I think maya would agree with that. I think her meaning is that, when a person is truly seen for who they are, and when there sin is truly seen for what it is, there is only love, pure and simple, and disgust ceases to be a possibility.
Danny - Welcome to the club. It IS fine.
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Alexander: Ask of me anything, and I will give it to you.
Diogenes: Stand out of my sun. IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted February 19, 2005 11:37 AM
Danny ~ Yes! Yes, it is fun. I think sometimes even the pain is fun in it's own sort of way.Do you think they are real connections? Or wishes and phantoms? IP: Logged |
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