posted June 01, 2008 09:10 AM         

JOHHNY CASH - JUNE CARTER ---- DRACO DRAMA - Lindaland http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014290.html

Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith - Twin Souls? - Lindaland http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014046.html

others by the genius IQhunk

Asteroids Valentine and Amor = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009111.html

Isis and Osiris = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014145.html

Asteroid Karma = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009192.html

Asteroid Groups = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014127.html

posted June 01, 2008 09:17 AM         

you know that you are more than welcome to hijack the thread.

posted June 01, 2008 11:10 AM         

heres my masterpiece
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014837.html

its exclusively on twin souls

posted June 01, 2008 08:41 PM         

thank you so much for that and i can see all the threads on the astrology forum. i will copy them later so that i've got permanent access to them.

can you tell me - which asteroids denote life purpose? i need some direction in that - perhaps more confirmation than direction.

posted June 02, 2008 01:41 AM         

here this should help

VenusDeIndia: Chart Details
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012716.html

after u are done reading go to this link

http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/

u can get positions for all asteroids here.

"asteroids are more significant in terms of synastry than a natal chart. is that right?
"

asteroids are more specific, valentine and venus both rule love... but... u know where i m going ?

posted June 02, 2008 07:31 AM         

yeah - i get it. thanks. these links are brilliant. the chart of asteroids and fixed stars is fantastic. so much information to take in - but that's what i like. i'm kind of a sponge when i'm interested in something.

once again you have proven yourself to be a

posted June 04, 2008 11:15 PM         

i can feel your absolute agony honey. i'm thinking that maybe we were meant for this exchange and not vid. i'm not going to give you the astro dynamics or analysis though. you've done that and know that. you need something else. i very much feel that despite the forgiveness ceremony - in your heart - you haven't really released that. it does hurt when you can't be with your soulmate in a lifetime. astrology is not going to provide you with your answers because despite all the chart placements they are a simply a guide - and we have free will. this person that you love is not in the same place as you and that is not something you can control by any means. he is just where he is in his own personal growth - in his own evolution and he is not ready for the commitment of a soulmate. and i don't think you are either. sometimes the attachment to this awareness causes so much more pain than good. a lot of emphasis is placed on finding your one true love. but for this to work you have to bring a whole into the relationship. and you are not whole. neither is he. you haven't found yourself yet. and you can't merge with someone else until you are complete with someone else. it's not two people coming together to complete each other - it's two wholes coming together to be more than they could be otherwise. you need to come back into yourself and focus on you and your own growth and healing. there is much unforgiveness in you and you need to heal yourself. perhaps the mother figure love thing that i was picking up before pertains to you loving yourself. you can perform all the rituals you want but until this person - at soul level - is ready to meet with you on equal terms, there is nothing you can do to force that. but it is not the only love you find - there are people out there who you meet who can fulfil certain needs and help you learn and grow as well. it is through the experiences with these people that we complete ourselves that leads to us merging with our soulmate. its not that he's in denial - he's just not ready. and again, neither are you really. you really need to love yourself first - and i think that is where you go next - do what you have to do to find yourself and love that person - without the agenda of another.

posted June 05, 2008 07:31 AM         

i have my sun 0 cancer
moon 3 cancer, true node 13 cancer, u have a bunch of asteroids in cancer, all spiritual ones contacting my major planets.esp. u have Karma conjunct my Node. THAT is big, we have known each other....
nessus 25 cancer
pluto 24 libra conjunct ur jupiter.
ur saturn at 20 sag conjuncts my MC spot on zero degrees, that is karmic.
major one your True Node conjuncts my Pluto....
we have DEFINITE past life connection VIG. i m sorry for ur pain with ur twin soul. liten have u read Twin Souls by Joudry-Pressman.it talks about twinsoul relationships, the love and the pain and how to deal with the problems esp. like in ur case one twin not wanting to be in a relationship. i think u should check it out at amazon.com...like now.
have you been doing that meditation... just persist. and from what u say u have been the culprit so i understand his reluctance. just keep releasing the past and you will have a new future.
God Bless
SS

posted June 05, 2008 07:11 PM         

You are experiencing a milestone transit of midlife -- the Chiron Return. Along with that, the transiting North Node is conjunct both your natal Chiron and tChiron. Questions about your path in life ("am I on the right track?") will plague and even torment you. This is a period of time that you *must* listen to your inner voice, and if your car is in the ditch, or off the map, it's advisable to find your true road as soon as possible. The longer it takes you to find and embrace your true path, the longer you will suffer emotional pain daily.

Here's an article on Chiron from Madeline Adams:

We each have special gifts to share with the world. Often there are lessons to be learned and experiences to be lived through before we can fully come into our true sense of individuality and empowerment. To have reached this place we need to be living from our soul center.

When we live from the place of our soul self we have a sense of rightness and an innate wisdom that governs our understanding and our actions, a feeling of completeness that transcends our physical reality and our familial and social mores. It is this potential for healing our Body and Soul that is symbolized by the Centaur Chiron.

Discovery of the centaur Chiron
Since 1 November 1977 Astrologers have been working with the planetoid Chiron, which was found orbiting between the planets Saturn and Uranus. Chiron’s symbol is the key. The key to unlock the doors to understanding and healing which incorporates our 3rd dimension reality and the worlds beyond.

Chiron symbolizes a bridge between our personal limitations/earthly lessons/physical body (Saturn) and our unique individuality/divine inspiration/realm of the God/dess (Uranus). He is the link to both, and the key to healing the split between these parts of ourselves.

Saturn relates to the aloneness we feel when we take on responsibility for our selves. Whereas Uranus is the aloneness we feel when we realise that we are different, alien or out of step with those around us.

Chiron carries the key to much of our wounds and suffering and gives us clues to how we can heal not only our personal lives but also the imbalances of our planet. Since the discovery of Chiron there has been a resurgence of ancient wholistic forms of healing, as well as a concern for issues of Ecology and Green politics.

This fits with Chiron’s role as physician and teacher of the mysteries of nature. To heal we need to treat not only our physical body but our soul as well. Healing is then an experience of whole making, incorporating both our instinctual body wisdom and our inspired intuitive God/dess wisdom. A wholeness that contains paradox.

Chironic healing mediums include Naturopathy, Homoeopathy, Bach Flowers, Herbalism, Reiki, Psychosynthesis counselling, and Shamanism. Anything that includes the mysteries as well as the physical realm.

The myth of the Centaur Chiron

The myth of the Centaur Chiron describes him as half horse/half man but he was also immortal. Chiron was the son of Saturn and the grandson of Uranus. Chiron was a teacher and mentor to many of the great heroes of the Golden Age – Jason, Hercules and Asclepius. He taught many skills including the healing arts.

His life was that of teacher, mentor and healer. The quest for healing is his theme, but the process involves both growth and change and most often the experience of surrender to that which is most wounded within us.

Our personal wound may seem quite simple and insignificant to others but it has affected our perspective of our place in the world. We may have felt alien, orphaned, different or handicapped, physically or emotionally.

We all have a personal story to tell that had a major effect on the shape our lives have taken. The placement of Chiron in your astrology chart, by house and sign and the aspects it makes to personal planets, tell something of your individual wound, that which has shaped your life. It contains within, the seed of a special gift. A gift that has been hard won from painful experience and has made you into the individual you are now. From that place of greatest suffering our greatest understanding arises.

The first square of Chiron to its natal position is the time in our lives when we first become aware of our personal wound. Because Chiron has a very elliptical orbit, the experience our first Chiron square can be from an age of 5 years – 23 years. An astrologer can calculate this timing for you.

At around 50 years Chiron returns to its original position in the birth chart and it is at this age that we go through something of a healing crisis. We either change or grow into a transformed life after grieving and accepting our personal wound or we stay as we are and excuse ourselves from making the often-painful shift in consciousness that is necessary to move fully into the next phase of life.

Chironic healing

Chironic healing requires that we bring the wound to light to be acknowledged, and integrated into who we are. Acceptance of our woundedness then transforms and enriches our personal story, and can become our personal gift to share with the world. The role of teacher, mentor or healer is possible after this time.

Once we have moved through the experience of our Chiron return at around 50 years, we can look back to see that the pain of grieving our losses and our acceptance of our personal tragedy has moved us into a more compassionate and soul centred experience of life and we are free to live from an authentic wise place within us.

The healing crisis often encountered at the time of the Chiron return, takes us into the Cave or hidden parts of our selves. Illness can provide a space and time to withdraw from everyday life and time to go into Chiron’s cave. This creates a sacred space wherein there can be connection to instinctual wisdom deep within us that can teach and guide us to heal the imbalances that are the root cause of our illness.

We meet with our fears, doubts, failures, pain, sadness and loss and the ways in which we may feel alienated, alone or different. We question cultural norms and expectations. The healing that results comes from a new acceptance of who we are and a letting go of that which will never be. (The loss of the unattainable dream).

The process of healing requires that we give up the unfulfilled dream, let it go, accept its loss and by doing so we move into a new sense of freedom. Freedom to live our own authentic lives from that place of knowing who we are. Knowing that our flaws make us real and our hard won knowledge gives us something meaningful to give back to the world.

This time around 50 years of age coincides with the time of menopause for many women. This is a time when it is natural to want to withdraw from life to allow feelings of sadness to surface and take a new look at what gives meaning to one’s life.

It is only by stepping away from the everyday demands of life that we can take the time to gain a new perspective on the shape our lives have taken and regroup our energies towards the next phase. Could it be that Men-o-pause is asking of us to take a pause from the masculine endeavours of doing and achieving in the outer world?

Through taking time for solitude, to be able to just be and feel and allow the inner voices to be heard. To make room for the paradoxes of life to be acknowledged. If we chose to take this time freely, we could gain a balanced approach to the next phase of our lives and have more to give to others as well as ourselves.

It is my belief that much of the suffering in the world today is as a result of a Soul sickness that manifests on the emotional and physical planes as illness. Healing on a soul level is where Chiron holds the key.

Transiting Uranus is closing in on your IC, the cusp that begins your 4th house, the foundation of your inner and outer Be-ing. You are ready to make changes, although you may fear them tUranus can facilitate those passages for you by "providing" sudden revelations, or unexpected events that jump you to a higher and more complete understanding of yourself (and others).

posted June 06, 2008 12:56 PM         

The mother love aspect rings true though…because my mother wasn’t a very loving, affectionate person. There weren’t a lot of “I Love You’s” and Hugs. Something a child needs. I know that is the basis for a lot of my issues on not feeling loved. That’s the hole in my life. I seem to give it to everyone else, but it doesn’t come back to me. No one is ever there for me when I need that kind of love and support. My daughter is the only person I have ever felt that love from.

I understand that he isn’t ready yet. I just had that talk with him last weekend. I told him that I was tired, and I couldn’t do it anymore. The casualness and part-time feeling of it. Of us not seeing each other for six weeks or so. There is no emotional satisfaction for me. Two years is a long time to wait for something to progress into something real. He just said he isn’t ready to commit to a relationship. So you are right, it doesn’t matter what the synastry charts say, or that he is probably my twin soul, or that his higher self and over souls forgave me for all the betrayal and pain I caused him….the human man doesn’t want a relationship. Does not want to give up his freedom and independence right now. And I just have to accept that and walk away. It doesn’t matter how wonderful it is when we are together, he just doesn’t want it. And it’s hard to walk away from something that is so good. If I can describe it…it’s easy. It’s comfortable, and compatible, almost effortless, and there is great chemistry. It just feels like a glove, a sense of oneness. It’s this great sense of peace and belonging. Like coming home.

But you are right. I have been holding on to this man and it’s depleting me. My health and my energy. I told him it had been two years, and I couldn’t do it anymore. I just can’t do it anymore.

Venusdeindia,
Thank you for comparing our charts. It’s quite amazing, isn’t it? I will order that book from Amazon. I am open to anything that will help me move through this. IQ Hunk was pretty accurate, wasn’t he? He said it would take the patience of Job to attract a twin soul in denial. I have also read that when it is just too much, too strong for one of the souls, that they run. They actually call them “runners”. Because they’re just not ready for it. I had taken a break from the meditation and past life regression after I had the energy session, and she detailed some of the past lives with him. But I need to start again. I have a question for you though. I am having such strong feelings when I correspond with you. The chills going through my body when I read your messages are so strong, they almost throw me out of my chair. And then I cry. And I feel like it relates to one of my lifelines with him. The woman who did the energy session went through at least five of our lifelines where I betrayed him. There were more, but she just relayed the top five that were affecting this life. But the one she said was affecting this life the most strongly, where he was hurt the most, was the one where we were brothers. She said it was going way back, that it was in a time “before the Christed one”, that it was in the Middle East. She saw the desert, tents, livestock animals. I was a man, and he was my brother. We were best friends, almost twins we were so close. Then she said that I slept with his wife. That I was in love with his wife as much as he was, and I couldn’t help myself. That I couldn’t stop myself. That I would wait until he was away, and then I would take her as my own. But the guilt tore me apart, almost killed me. And because of the guilt and the shame I felt, I would keep some distance between us, or wouldn’t spend as much time with him like we always had. And he never understood, and was incredibly hurt. He never understood what he had done. (She said this is what I am getting back right now from him….the distance, the arm’s length feeling, pushing me away and I don’t understand why). She said I felt like I had blood on my hands. And that when I died and crossed over, I swore to make it up to him, to be forever in his debt. And I just have this really strong feeling that you were his wife, and that is how we are connected. Can I ask if any of your past life regressions showed you in love with two brothers? It’s just the feeling I have.

Azalaksh,
Thank you so much for the Chiron article. Yes, I knew it was my Chiron return. I have been trying to read about it. I don’t know whether I have done what I needed to do in order to heal that wound. Maybe that is what is happening now, and why it’s been so painful. Because I didn’t do the work before now. The funny thing about my life path is that I have always been the mother type. The nurturer, protector, who took care of everyone, etc. A big job and money was never important to me. My family was the most important thing to me. Taking care of my family. My husband and my daughter. So I stayed in a bad (abusive) 25 year marriage, just trying to keep it together, trying to fix it, always hoping that it would be good one day. I finally stood up for myself in 2005 and said “that’s it, I’m done”. “I’m not going to allow you to treat me like this anymore.” My daughter had already moved away for college, and did not live at home anymore. So I have been alone for three years. Something I have never been. The last three years have been really painful, because I have felt this tremendous sense of isolation and emptiness. That I have no one in my life. No family close by. Everyone at work goes home to their families. And I have no family anymore. It was a very depressing, desperate sort of time, and I considered that life wasn’t worth really living. That I didn’t want to live like this anymore. That my marriage was painful, but this isolation was even worse. There are no people in my life. I had never felt that way before, and it wasn’t until I read one of Geocosmic Valentine’s messages to someone else about them feeling like that, and she said it was because of Saturn transiting their Moon. And I realized that was the reason in my case also. Glad it has moved on, and I am starting to feel better!

Thanks to everyone for their time, and considerate comments! It is a big help to me.

posted June 07, 2008 04:30 AM         

actually i had regressed keeping ,my oversoul as guide asking only for those incidents that were causing mny issues in this life, my schizoid personality. obviously there were many others which i skimmed over.i just saw some snippets and moved on....but the one u are talking about...i started crying when i read becoz i ....dont know. either what u say is true or it reminds me of my most traumatic past life as u will read in that thread.though i dont see any aspects in our synastry that indicate adultery. yes we do have a real spiritual bond as i elaborated above.can u look up asteroids lust, nemesis,jezzabel, tristan, isolda,kama,nessus. these might help in knowing. although what the world thinks of as adultery can be love for those above..remember God and Oversoul dont judge.
karma is not punishment , but balance.

i have recently released a lot of past life pattern...if u read that thread u will know the kind of crap i m talking about.

instrumantal in changing my life around were...

decoding ur life - Janet swerdlow.... this book helps releasing karmic emotional patterns that we can hold onto for lives and then keep going thru the same crap.

also
Healers handbook.- Stewart Swerdlow

since u are going a chiron return, u are at the best time of ur life if u want to transmutate and heal ur emotional karma, and to change and be free of it. yes it IS possible ,we are empowered to stop the seeds we sowed from reaping our karma.