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Topic: The Superficial
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sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 2002
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted March 27, 2009 09:00 AM
 
gawd i want a steak.mob mentality. how evolved.
lets make fun of octomom.
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MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 3201
From: Florida for now
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted March 27, 2009 09:03 AM
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:16 AM
note: i deleted a chunk of what i wrote back there because I realized it is pointless and repetitive and i really don't want to argue. it's all been said a million times to him over the years and nothing has changed anyway.Ghani  *hugs*  IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
From: *
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:16 AM
lol sunshine.IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
Moderator Posts: 8280
From: New Brighton, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:17 AM
So Stephen, you’ve pronounced me “lost.” Well, that must be part of the plan that’s determined for me, as Free Will is a myth (right??) 
I shall go on my merry way then, driving down the ditches and avoiding the roads
You keep saying “don’t shoot the messenger.” You persist in thinking that it’s your *message* we disagree with, or can’t stomach, or are too unevolved to comprehend (thus engaging your benevolent pity). But that’s not it. What many of us take issue with *IS* The Messenger – not The Message – and what I perceive as an enormous insatiable ego. quote:
Zala, this post was so awesome.
I just have to give you props again.
I'm sorry you caved to peer pressure.
You could have been a contender.
Thanks for the props Stephen. But I can’t help but laugh, and hear Marlon Brando, at that last bit
I *am* a contender, love. And your faux disappointment in me doesn’t bother me one jot. I was marveling this morning about the stubbornness of some people….. how after all these years of threads here at LL, just like this one, involving your insights and “unpopular opinions,” you’ve neither listened to nor absorbed one iota of anything anyone has ever said to you, either in kindness or in anger. You are impervious. It makes me feel sad that the only people who seem to be worthy of your respect and attention are dead philosophers and writers. The opinions and experiences of the rest of us mere mortals are not worthy of your esteemed consideration and cannot penetrate your walls. I submit that the reason you don’t blog is that it’s too one-sided, and there’s little opportunity for you to exercise your mind on skewering the opinions, beliefs and experiences of others. I don’t pity you, Stephen. To me, pity implies a feeling of superiority. Rather, I feel something akin to compassion. You are probably right where you need to be on your pre-determined path – I have no right to judge that. And I don’t mind that you judge me as “lost,” because at this point I feel a lot more “found” at the core of my being, than all your lofty words demonstrate of how you’re feeling at the core of your being…..And Stephen, you’re just a kid -- How can I expect you to understand??  IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 4401
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 27, 2009 09:19 AM
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"I shall call him...Mini Me"
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
From: *
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:25 AM
was that from the site? i see it's in quotations. (i know it's from that movie too)tell me! i want to laugh!!! IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:28 AM
Great points Zala. You have a better chance at getting through to him than i did.IP: Logged |
TINK
Knowflake Posts: 4401
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted March 27, 2009 09:30 AM
I can't make claim. Thank the keen observational skills and sharp wit of bunnies.  The phrase "sorcerer's apprentice" briefly skipped through my head, but I think she nailed it.IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
Moderator Posts: 8280
From: New Brighton, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:31 AM
Thanks for the thoughts, T
But I don't think any of us have a snowball's chance in hell of saying anything that Stephen will consider, or try on to see if it fits in his pantheon/world view  I'm at work and haven't had a chance to read what you wrote, but I will at lunchtime Yours, cavingly
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Yin
Knowflake Posts: 1664
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Registered: May 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:31 AM
I think it is thread like this one that make LindaLand a little bit more exciting!
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 09:39 AM
ah I see, thanks Tink. Mme Z, 
and have a great day at work today. Yin, more exciting and maddening at the same time. lol IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 2002
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted March 27, 2009 09:40 AM
ok so octomom fired all of her nannies, they said she wasn't around like at all out of any given day and she ordered a new jaccuzi tub for her master bath. i guess film crew of the paparizzi are taking care of all them kids. that new publisist must be getting her a few bucks.we can gossip about her, thats what she wants. and there is no way anyone can tell me she didnt get her gross lips done to look like angelina. and you tell me how she changes diapers with those daggar nails? you would scratch a poor baby. IP: Logged |
ghanima81
Moderator Posts: 1868
From: MAINE! :)
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted March 27, 2009 10:25 AM
Zala, well put. Sometimes it is sad, but you're right, some people will never listen or care about another persons opinion or viewpoint. And we're the uncompassionate ones... T, I hope you are feeling better today. I hope it never resorts to you having to go to the ER, but if that's what you need to do, don't hesitate. You have to listen to your body, but you know that..  About octomom, that woman needs some help. Honestly, there is obviously some inbalance there, and I feel kinda bad for her that the media is just feeding the beast, giving her what she wants. She has forgotten the most important thing: she is a mother and those children already don't have a father, that's what she needs to be concentrating on, taking care of the lives she brought into the world.
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 10534
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 01:17 PM
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You have a better chance at getting through to him than i did.
Can't you just agree to disagree?
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 10534
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted March 27, 2009 01:23 PM
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posted March 27, 2009 06:06 AM
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
From: *
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 01:37 PM
Yes, HSC. I already have. Thank you for refraining from name calling as I have. Yours are always predictable anyway. Already know what you would like to say as youve hinted at it many times before anyway.  IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted March 27, 2009 01:37 PM
Read this last night or early this a.m. and ended my comforting chat with my dear dear Steve with a little name calling of my own. I can be a real witch from time to time and can be a big immature baby from time to time too... (not saying I was earlier, just SAYIN' hehe). But the truth is that men often act like this when they are upset and Scorpio men who have one heck of a verbal sword constantly on hand can be horrible. (Try a Virgo with a sensitive Leo moon and a Scorpio AC for example, and try to be "enlightened" when THAT dude is acting out toward you. I wanted to kill that s.o.b....) I read in a book about the sexes once that women talk when they are upset, and men invade countries. So anyway, geez, ANYONE can see that 26T was just posting a link she found, and EVERYONE knows you girls are a FAR cry from catty and wicked. If any females in this world are TRYING to do the right thing for others, it's a lot of the girls here. And swinging back (on the other hand says the Libra mind) since so many of us KNOW how much of a whatever Steve can be when he melts down a couple times a year, you know what is coming then... so some might WANT to fight with him for whatever reason, for example, maybe you DO need to get some things out in the open and clear the air or whatever. Or maybe you have some grievance that needs addressing... and if I would have been standing beside my dear love Steve when he made those comments about ghani for example, it would have been all I could do to stop myself from slapping his mouth. I would have been so horrified, even though I barely know ghani so have no real emotional investment in her to begin with, other than thinking she is sweet and nice. I probably know her LESS than some celebrities in a way but obviously, simply because she has made an effort to be kind and supportive toward Steve (and me!) in the past, she should obviously merit more respect than random celebrity strangers. I seriously would have grabbed him and made him "go home" immediately. He is obviously not thinking clearly and there is no shame in that, we've all been there... but there is shame in some actions and that is what we are here to remind each other of, I'm guessing.
It is my advice to just avoid eye contact and back away when he goes all rabid dog or crazed scorpion a few times a year, but if you need to have a good fight, enjoy then I suppose. I know I had so many fights with ex-boyfriends and sometimes I just needed to have one. I don't really feel that way now but that's probably because I am currently doped up on Cymbalta and chewing on one of those peanutbuttery rice crispy treats with the chocolate on top.
I don't know what else to say. I just want to say that I love you, Tara... and ghani and Zala, I don't want you to feel upset and God bless to all of you. And I love you, Steve, and you are a wonderful person, you are just having some bad behavior lately and when you come back to the light I think you will beat yourself up for what you said to ghani and I won't have to tell you that you owe her an apology. And to be fair to Steve, I don't think it is fair to judge him as overall arrogant and hypocritical just because he sometimes "falls" and exhibits some negative behaviors. I mean, if only we could all see each other at our worst and behind closed doors with our partners etc. People can act very shameful at times, even with the best intentions. We just don't all do it right in front of everybody.
God only Knows why Steve does...
but I think we all have learned from it.
Love to you guys,
~m
(and p.s. I unpopularly told him last night that I thought he started it but you know what the kindergarten teacher says when the kids say "heeeeeee started it!!!!")
yeah Venus Rx is rough
I dropped out of college everybody!!!
I'm going to take a break and work...
we'll see.
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MysticMelody
Moderator Posts: 5197
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted March 27, 2009 01:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9xIJx2_WG4&feature=related These are just random kids but I'm on my way to watch Rosie's second Spring Concert of the day. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 10534
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 01:50 PM
Zala,Is it just because I stand alone?
Is that why you assume I respect no one?
I respected you, when you spoke for consideration.
Didn't I? And I have shown more respect that the lot of you.
That much can be surmised from an objective standpoint.
But I will elaborate on that in the paragraphs below. Am I stubborn? Not enough. I wish I were more so.
The men I admire most were miraculously stubborn. They stood up for their principles,
no matter how often they were abused,
and told that, because they are the minority,
their voice is the obstinate, disrespectful one. There is so much I could say, but it does require a great deal of energy,
to defend myself and my point of view against a fuming mob. The Brando allusion was intentional, in case you missed it.
You "could have been somebody". But you took a dive to save face. What all of you are saying to me is no less castigating
than anything I have said to you, yet you claim the high ground. If there is a high ground here, it belongs to the one
who is not shouting slurs, like "a$$hole", "douchebag", and so on. It is a profound testament to the hypocrisy of each one of you
that you do not ask your allies to behave with the same decorum
that you so vehemently insist on seeing in your opponent. Any one who has paid close attention to my ethics in these battles
has seen me admit error numerous times, and correct statements.
You've often seen me respond conscientiously, point by point,
to each of your accusations and objections, and break them down with logic.
And, yet, not one of you shows me the same courtesy, but, rather,
continues to not even address most of the points I've made,
but to go on making accusations without the discussion progressing.
The thread Zala alluded to from 2 years ago is a perfect example of this.
If anyone has the power to read it objectively, you'll see that I'm right.
Moreover, if you are paying attention, you have seen me, on several occassions,
turn to the people on my own side in the heat of a battle
and rebuke them for crossing the line; as snowhawk, ghani, and writesomething did. But you all pat them on the back, and justify their tantrums,
because, for one thing, none of you has an ounce of objectivity
(or is it an ounce of backbone?) to stand alone.
You justify it because you see that they are emotional and hurt.
But you condemn me for saying things less vicious than that,
and am I any less hurt? Having so many of you at my throat?
Do any of you see the restraint I often show in the face of slurs,
and the lack of restraint that my restraint has been met with? Ask yourselves, if any of you have the integrity to do those things. And ask yourselves, if any one of you would have the stubbornness
and fortitude to stand up, alone, to this stream of abuse.
Do you honestly think you could or would do it for your principles? Ask yourselves. Be honest with yourselves. The answers are plain as day.
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 10534
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 01:51 PM
Thanks for sharing your opinion, Melody. IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
From: *
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 01:52 PM
Thanks Mel. Just woke up from a nap and am feeling ill and weak again. Have a great day The kiddie concert sounds like fun! Glad you made a decision and hope the working world works out for a bit. I'm sure you'll get back to school when the time is right.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 10534
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 27, 2009 01:54 PM
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Yes, HSC. I already have. Thank you for refraining from name calling as I have.
You're welcome.  Thank you, too. Honestly. But why aren't you thanking snowhawk? Oh. Right. IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted March 27, 2009 01:55 PM
That last girl is my soul child though, right? Imagine this song sang with the sweet voices of 25 kindergartners who are doing little swimmy hand gestures and stuff  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZGwWslUyA4 The third graders sang this one: I was walking home from school on a cold winter's day
Took a shortcut through the woods and I lost my way
It was getting late and I was scared and alone
Then a kind old man took my hand and led me home
Mama couldn't see him, but he was standing there
But I knew in my heart, he was the answer to my prayers Oh I believe there are angels among us
Sent down to us from somewhere up above
They come to you and me in our darkest hours
To show us how to live
To teach us how to give
To guide us with a light of love When life dealt troubled times and had me down on my knees
There's always been someone there to come along and comfort me
A kind word from a stranger to lend a helping hand
A phone call from a friend just to say I understand
Ain't it kind of funny at the dark end of the road
Someone lights the way with just a single ray of hope Oh I believe there are angels among us
Sent down to us from somewhere up above
They come to you and me in our darkest hours
To show us how to live
To teach us how to give
To guide us with a light of love They wear so many faces
Show up in the strangest places
Grace us with their mercy
In our time of need Oh I believe there are angels among us
Sent down to us from somewhere up above
They come to you and me in our darkest hours
To show us how to live
To teach us how to give
To guide us with a light of love 
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 16164
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posted March 27, 2009 01:56 PM
Does "bitchy" ring a bell? Wait there's more.But we should end it now. IP: Logged | |
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