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Lost Leo
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posted May 23, 2003 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW! Natasha, you have dazzled me with some amazing insights!
They are just... GREAT!

You've left me speechless (hard to do to a Leo)

PS - You've really given a great understanding for us men to go by

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Bendis
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posted May 23, 2003 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces...Pisces...Pisces! Not only they are willing to try *anything*, they're sensual and sensitive and seem to get more pleasure from *your* pleasure than even their own. I'm sure this isn't ALL Pisces, but the Pisces men I've been lucky to be with have always been perfect lovers.

The other sign I had a lot of fun with was a Leo - it was fun, a little rough yet still sensitive.

Don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but a trait I've found is simply heaven in bed is someone with their Venus in Aries. (Both of the Pisces I was with did). One book I thing I read on it explained it perfecty: "..a perfect match between aggressivesness and sensuality". Whenever I cast a chart and find that particular alignment, I'm automatically attracted to what experience has taught me is an ideal lover!

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The unseen, the unknown, the mystery - this is what drives me; propels me forward on new journeys as dark corners of my mind are lit with the evergrowing bright light of my enlightened soul.

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Lost Leo
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posted May 23, 2003 02:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I think my Pisces Moon tweaked me in a way where I'm down to do/try anything, the more out there & elaborate (kinky or not) the BETTER. I mean, who cares, really...

And I derive ALL of my pleasure from pleasuring another, what's the fun if you're not hitting their "OhmyGod" button?

I hate the Leo stereotype of has-to-be-served in bed, it really doesn't apply to me, personally I think it's kinda boring

Maybe it's the fact sex is an emotional thing, being that Moon rules your emotions, maybe the Pisces side of my personality is in control at that point...

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Bendis
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posted May 23, 2003 03:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would definitely say, Lost Leo, that a Pisces Moon would effect you so in the sexual realm. Leo Sun/Pisces Moon - what an interesting combination. I rather like that.

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lioneye68
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posted May 23, 2003 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that "Leos like to be served in the bedroom" thing is bull. I'm very Leo, i.e., Sun, Mercury, Venus, & Mars, all in the 8th house except Venus, and in my experience it's been quite the opposite. I'm usually the one doing most of the pleasing!!
The problem is, once you set the tone with a lover, it's hard to switch it up...so, it tends to fall into a pattern of them laying back and just lovin it all, while I'm going "ok, when is it going to be MY turn?"
But it's one of those things that, well if you have to ask, you don't want it. It has to be forthcoming without being asked for.
Men have to KNOW this.

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Lost Leo
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posted May 23, 2003 03:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx Bendis! I like the combo too

Having a Piscean Moon contrasts with my Sun's character so much... it's great, keeps me in check and allows me to do things most normal Leonine egos couldn't handle, lost of humility, and man do I need it

"But it's one of those things that, well if you have to ask, you don't want it. It has to be forthcoming without being asked for.
Men have to KNOW this."
Lioneye, sounds to me like you need to communicate... men are idiots, we can't read minds...

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lioneye68
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posted May 23, 2003 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some things you don't want to have to ask for. It takes away from it if you have to ask. It's just not a turn-on to have to say..."MMMM... Sweetie you should ravish ME now"
Also, I've tried on occasion to say what I want, and more often than not, it's only resulted in a wounded male ego, followed by a new ego wall going up. (maybe it's me)
But ok, I'll keep trying.

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Lost Leo
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posted May 23, 2003 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, pitiful how the ego gets wounded... all & all I feel bad for women sometimes, its like a double-edged sword...

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sthenri
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posted May 23, 2003 07:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lioneye68, I think you said somewhere that you have Neptune in the 12th in Scorpio? Then you would have a really hard time communicating something like that. Mine is in the 12th too, it take away from the dreamland quality of love to have to explain yourself. I say that a lot, "you should just know". Best thing to do is to tell him at the start of any physical contact that receiving is a challenge for you, and let him know you want to try a variety of things or else you will be very unhappy. You can only be the giver for so long.

Natasha

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proxieme
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posted May 23, 2003 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I do not know if I had a good time without the O because I never knew any different until there was one. I mean, how do women even know? It's not like anyone talks about what it feels like for a woman, and it's very vague. Women never talk about it with each other honestly. They are constantly looking for it but are unable to describe it which is silly.

Well, hell - I'll start.
(WARNING: THIS MAY BE GRAPHIC )

~*~*The Clitoral "O"*~*~
It begins to build - the tension, I mean.
The tension begins to build, and then it begins to become a steady, throbbing ache in...that area, sometimes radiating out along my body to my fingertips and toes.
But, oh, what an exquisite ache.
At that point, if someone were to, say, suck or bite on my nipples, the pleasure of that sensation, then, explodes and races through my body, coming to a rest in and around my clit. From then, it can really depend.
If it's an "aahhh" orgasm, a few deep breaths, and the pleasurable pain is released to spread, culminating in my head, yet affecting everything.
If it's the...other kind...the pressure continues to build until it's its own separate, palpable energy. My sight dims. Everything tenses.
My sense of smell goes wild.
Each bead of sweat on my body stands alone.
I breathe quickly, sharply, deeply.
If not worried about those around, or not able to contain what must get out, I moan - sometimes building to a throaty almost-scream. Sometimes I do not know that this is happening.
My body convulses; I feel each muscle twitch, each sinew writhe - my pelvis, not of my accord, jumps. If there's a guy between my legs, he holds on and looks up, trying to keep my lower half still - but not able to.
It races up and out of my spine, coarses through to my clit, rearranges my head.
I bite at the air.
It subsides -
but does not stop. I have to make it do so, because that area has just gotten to sensitive to be touched. The pain, once divine, becomes overwhelmingly so.
My clitoris and vagina continue to minutely twitch for a while afterwards.

~*~*The Vaginal Orgasm*~*~
Something entirely different - and don't dare let anyone tell you that it doesn't exist.
When it comes, it comes slowly (no pun intended). It sneaks on me; I don't know that it's there until different parts of my body have ceased functioning. I'm in the midst of the most all-encompassing physical pleasure possible, and then my legs will start to droop (if, um, up) and fall away. My arms drop to my side. Again, my eyesight goes. I can think of nothing but this delight moving through my body, taking me over.
My head tilts to the side.
No tension - perfect, complete relaxing satisfaction and bliss...
so complete, that I can't consciously move any part of me.
The pleasure becomes unbearably intense again - each cell of my body seems as if it's melting and bursting at the same time-, but this time there's not a thing that I can do about it. I've just got to let it ride its course.
For obvious reasons, I cannot be on top when this happens - I just kinda *whoop* fall over.

So, there. There "it" is for me.

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Tommy_Cat
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posted May 23, 2003 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WELL!!!...Anyone else need a cigarette???????

Proxieme are you single?? (just kidding?)

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sthenri
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posted May 23, 2003 08:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, If you read that out aloud you sure wouldn't be alone for long. That's too much pleasure for one woman, well I guess I have to go find my Libra/Scorp.

Natasha

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lioneye68
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posted May 23, 2003 08:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prox, you imp!! You got us all hot and bothered. Where's a man when you need one , dammit!

<whispers to the waitress "I'll have what she's having">

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N_wEvil
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posted May 23, 2003 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would describe it from a male perspective...

but it's boring and i'm hardly an authority on the issue.

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Tommy_Cat
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posted May 23, 2003 08:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boring? Buddy, you're doing something wrong if you think it's boring.
I'll describe it from the male perspective, but I don't think I can capture it like Proxieme did.
It's like... ohgod ohgod ohgod ohgod ooohhggoooddd ooooohhhhggggoooooodddd ooooooohhhhhhhhhgggooooooooooodddddddddddddd.
ahhhhh.

Where's the remote?

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proxieme
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posted May 23, 2003 10:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeeeaaah...I miss sex.
It's so -muhm- and -mmm- and intense and fun.

>go finds something to read<

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Lost Leo
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posted May 23, 2003 11:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy Sh*it Prox! Where the *#$% did that come from?

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Lost Leo
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posted May 23, 2003 11:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what, it's not fair, women get to have it throughout their body like a true bliss...

And ours ends up centralized to one swollen area, distal from all our nerves...

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pidaua
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posted May 24, 2003 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Prox,

Ohhhh, you are soooooooooooooo right!!! It is even better when both happen in the same session. I just spent the last 3 days with my handsome Leo and yeah, there is something just so much more when you have the full experience. The Big C-O and the Big V-O. It turns into a spiritual type of union that American Indians call joining of the souls. It is believed that each person has two souls. One soul rules common issues such as eating, sleeping, living...etc.. while the other is your spiritual soul. When a person is making love to their mate - someone they love, then there is the potential for the two souls to become intertwined during the lovemaking, thus making the two more of one and bonding them in a way makes the whole experience earth shattering. It is also said that this union of the souls is almost impossible to break.

I experienced that the first time with my Leo two years ago in a very spiritual location, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.


We like to tease each other about the after effects of such a union. Men can feel it two, as far as differences in the orgasm. There are some climaxes that can leave a man speechless, when their whole body shakes and "it makes their toes curl" ...LOL

Hmmmmm, fun stuff to think about.

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1scorp
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posted May 24, 2003 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha-ha... "where did that come from". See why we Scorps like thy Pisces?! Not as sweet and innocent as y'all would like to think

I can't describe something like that. I think Prox did a wonderful job. There just seems to be all of these different sensations going on at once... I don't realize what I'm doing at that time. I just (as I've said before) go with it.

Hey Ms. Pidaua! Well, my Leo g/f has fixed me up with a Sag! Not the same one I was talking about before. Any good tips? I mean, I haven't even met this guy yet!

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lioneye68
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posted May 25, 2003 02:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lost Leo has raised a very good point. Do women enjoy their orgasms more than men?
If so, is it unfair, really? Quite often we don't get one, so it kind of balances out the equation somewhat if they're mind blowing when we do get them.
I don't know if the big O is better for us, just very different. For men, it's right out there, intense and focussed on the special apparatus. For woman, it's internal and radiating from a less specific area, more vauge but the larger area makes it all consuming. But it's all consuming for men too.
Hmm. Let's do a study. Who's in? I'll go first....('scuse me for a while)

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N_wEvil
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posted May 25, 2003 03:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welll, as i stated before if its not a spiritual experience for me, or in some way transcendant of physical pleasure then I wouldn't do it, simple as that.

For me it's almost a feedback loop, i can close to feel my partners' sensorium, the feeling is completely narcotic.

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proxieme
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posted May 25, 2003 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
> Holy Sh*it Prox! Where the *#$% did that come from? <

> Ha-ha... "where did that come from". See why we Scorps like thy Pisces?! Not as sweet and innocent as y'all would like to think <

Oh, that's not the half of it - the above's a very mild bit of what's there. (Take what you know about Piscean, Aquarian, and Scorpionic energy & stir together - those being my Sun/Moon/Asc, repectively; add a pinch of Taurean vibes - my Venus - and a pinch of Leo - my Mars). The thing is, that aspect of my personality is just generally not made everyone's business.
I mean, I can't speak for all Fish, but on my end that side's usually just shown to one person - but when it is, it's really shown. If there's no one around that piques my interest, then it's subsumed.

>has run out of things to read; goes to Borders<

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sthenri
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posted May 25, 2003 04:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that the O to a woman is like a Narcotic type experience when it's good, it's not the same all the time but if you are addicted you will keep trying.

When it's bad is when it's half an O, that experience is the most painful one out there, filled with fear, frustration and guilt. I think when a woman finds an O with a man whose self esteem is dependant on it, the woman is very unlikely to find another lover. That's what caring is about. I can't have an O without the caring and intense emotions.

Natasha

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Lost Leo
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posted May 26, 2003 12:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I think when a woman finds an O with a man whose self esteem is dependant on it, the woman is very unlikely to find another lover"

sthenri, What exactly do you mean?

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