posted June 13, 2003 11:23 PM              

Although it was difficult at times, it was the only time I was ever in love...and it has been my longest relationship, there IS something worthwhile there and it's not just the sex, a certain "closeness" develops that can't be described...like you know the other person would go to the end of the earth for you...the thing with scorpio is that they will always remind you..."remember the time I went to the end of the earth for you?" the Leo will go to the end of the earth for you JUST because...but a leo female can charm the scorpio male...my scorpio would be overbearing...and all I would have to do is shead one tear and he'd feel like an ass and come running after me...my tears were real...my feelings would be turly hurt at times...Scorpios are BIG softies at heart....hard to believe...but it's true....they are just very self protecting...they seldome let you see their softer side but they will quickly retreat.

posted June 14, 2003 03:28 AM              

Story Time

I actually did have a 7 month ...thing, I guess you could call it with a Scorpio who was just a beautiful man, I mean yummy to look at. It was his eyes. They were blue and they were so sexy and intense! But in reality, he was kind of screwed up, so he played too many games with me...he was skittish but in a arrogant way. But he was in to it, the relationship type thing that is. We really had a strong chemistry between us. I think it freaked him out. It freaked me out as well. Blew my mind, actually (well, it helped that he was so beautiful). But he wouldn't call me for 2 weeks at a time or more, then call and act like nothing was nothing. I think that's odd behavior to, when you're really digging someone, purposely avoid them. Why do you Scorps do that? The cat and mouse thing...It's a form of self sacrifice or something?
And the thing about Scorps really being softies deep down, that's only true in some cases. Some Scorps can be ruthless b*****ds, even female ones...but I suppose that can be said for every sign, baring Pisces...wait, I stand corrected...Ramerez was a Pisces.
My boss, being the Scorp man he is, (he's 1 year younger than me), and he's quite volotile emotionally, Pisces moon, he's definately a softy, with the hard shell. He's a clown in general, I mean he's really funny!! Everyone loves his sense of humor, he's such a kook! But he can be an as$ when it serves him, definately. We've had it out a few times... we both hate when THAT happens. He begins to shout, and I begin to tell him why he's too immature to be a plant manager. It's therapudic for both of us.
Oh, and that scorp I was seeing, didn't call me for 3 months one time, then it was over in my mind. But he started showing up at my work, which was a department store, and stalking me. I'd be at the till, and he'd be lurking in the aisles in front of me! I just didn't get him. I found his skittish games frustrating and stupid. Besides, I had WAY too many other options to play his games, so that was that. He stopped hanging around eventually.

posted June 14, 2003 10:37 AM            

Will a Sag and Pisces ever REALLY love each other? Sure, but how will it work in the long run? One must look at their own special vibrations within their chart. The Sag may have many Pisces loving planets and vice versa.

In the case of the Leo and Scorpio, sure there are some that get along. We have named plenty in celebrity realm and even some here.

But looking at the posts and seeing that almost ALL of us have been with our square and almost ALL of us are NOT WITH OUR SQUARES NOW. Just kind of JUMPS out at me!

Maybe we need to start a thread on successful square relationships and Lindaland members to get a real picture.

For those Leo's with a water moon, of course you will be more understanding of the Scorpians. Emotionally you identify with them, it is no different than an Earth sign with a Fire moon, that will give them a deeper understanding of that elements emotions.

Now, I have also talked to couples that have been married for years and years, most of them have the sextile and trine thing going on. One really cute couple that just is gaga over eachother is a Sagittarian Female (65) and her Aries man (68). Another is a Taurus man (80) and his Cappy wife (84).

Financechick,

Please tell me that you really aren't willing to just let you life languish in the hopes of finding another Scorpio? There are other men out there and just sitting here saying " I need a Scorpio man to find happiness" is totally insane. You're a Leo for God's sake (and a female). You do not need anyone to make your life worth living but yourself. Until you realize that and stop living in the past you will NEVER move forward.

There is an excellent book called the "Love, Sex and Magick" by Sirona Knight that details the myth and legends surrounding love and what we need to do as healthy humans to find love. You need to love yourself first and know what you like and what you don't like. Then DON'T SETTLE.

posted June 14, 2003 06:26 PM              

I really thrive on challenge, I think there are some couples that do and some that don't.

There are couples who have a partnership and those demand a lot of challenges, for growth.
The worst relationship for my mother was my father because she misses him so much, so it depends on your point of view. Him, Aqua, her Scorp, and she never went out with another Aqua after he passed away and can't stand Leos, other Scorps, and we get along with lots of understanding.

I agree the squares are tough, but not as tough as the oppositions!

Yes I agree a thread on squares would be good,
With challenge comes growth, accentuate the positive about those squares.
Natasha

Ah I'd love to wear a rainbow everyday,
and tell the world everything is okay,
I'll try to carry a little darkness on my back,
until things are brighter
I'm the Man in Black"

Johnny Cash.

posted June 14, 2003 10:01 PM              

I'm not settling and I'm certainly NOT holding out to find a scorpio but I seem to have better luck with them....I've just about worked my way through the whole zodiac minus a Pices male and an Aries and to be honest...they were all wacky.

I guess cynicism is setting in, scorpios always engage me, I feel most "at home" with scorpio males. With most men, I find myself being VERY timid and anxious...very non leo like...more my Pices moon and ascendant...but with scorp, I can be myself. I don't know...for me...they're just not hard to figure out...while the rest are hard to figure out.

I'm just tired really and I'm close to resigning myself to never getting married and having kids because I'm totally convinced it's never going to happen for me...I mean...good lord..I'll be 29 this year and my longest relationship lasted 4 years...ended when I was 22/23...so I think I have a right to be a bit cynical and have lack or hope or "faith" in the male species.

posted June 14, 2003 10:09 PM              

Financechic: With strong Pisces placements I can see why you feel Scorp's could be the "One" to finish your life out with. I feel it to...

I won't "limit" myself to that, but I will always give extra special consideration & attention to a lady Scorp when I come across one

Not like anyone cares... bumped into my Lioness today as I returned from motocross while I was unloaded gear at my homeboy's pad... she looked right at me. I made eye contact (she had sunglasses) but we both made no action, just kinda looked away and ignored Such the typical Leo response to an unexpected chance meeting..."pretend to not be surprised..."

posted June 14, 2003 11:04 PM              

Yes I will admit that we can be a little vindictive, a pain or perhaps out right mean... Just bare with us... hold on to hope and well... enjoy!

You know we love ya

posted June 16, 2003 02:00 PM            

I understand what you are saying and I can see where you are feeling a bit sad about not finding someone yet.

I think that as women we don't give ourselves enough credit about our worth. I am 33 and haven't had children yet, but I will someday. I haven't given up. Most of my relationships (which were few) lasted a few months, if that, with the exception of the two year one I am in now and the 2 years I was married. Before that, I had only 2 long term relationships, again, not lasting over 1-2 years.

Now, not everyone is that independent. I mean, I realize that I am kind of odd in that my need for freedom is intense, yet I still like Romance. Hell, for the past two years I have been in a relationship with someone that lives 2000 miles West. It allows me to have my career, space and time, but sometimes I wonder if I should be closer to him, but then again would it freak me out?

You have a lot going for you and I think that when it is time, you will find your mate and you will know for sure.

posted June 16, 2003 02:35 PM              

FinanceC~ I have to agree with you. That relationship (if you can make it work) is a very wonderful match !
Good luck on your search

posted June 16, 2003 03:21 PM            

I don't think that there is anything wrong with Scorpio's at all. You have great qualities!!!

I like what Bissie had to say from her point being a Virgo involved with a Scorpio. I think that for every 1 successful square relationship, we find 10 unsuccessful square relationships, AGAIN, one must also take into account the other planetary influences.

That is not to say that any one that forms a trine with another will fall in love. Linda addressed that issue in Love Signs. I mean, there have been plenty of Leo's, Aries and even those I form a sextile with Libra's and Aquarians, that I did not like and they didn't like me. Soooooo, it is a game of chance.

There is one truth that remains. You have to know yourself and know what you want and NOT SETTLE. Look how many people say "Well, this will be great for now and I will deal with the other issues later." LATER???? What, when you have fallen in love and now you are heartbroken? I mean, for the most part most of is figure out if we like the person or not rather quickly.

posted June 17, 2003 01:53 PM              

But sometimes I think I may regret this...

I see most of my friends back in OC still with the woman they started seeing right outta high school, they can't be w/o someone... Makes me wonder whether I'm doing the right thing. At least they ALWAYS have someone...

posted June 17, 2003 04:04 PM            

You are not doing something wrong. One must learn to like themselves and learn to love to be alone, to learn to love and be with another.

That is my personal mantra...really. I also think being alone is so much more rewarding than making a mistake of being with someone that you are not totally compatible with.

I don't understand understand people that "need" relationships in order to "live". They will settle for anyone and when it doesn't work out they glob onto someone else. It's not just out in OC. I have met people from all over the US, from my work, that are on their second, third or fourth marriage, all because they "needed someone" instead of living life for themselves. It is also cruel to do to someone else.

I think, and I may be wrong, that inside your decisions for being single is because you are aware that you cannot be with just anyone.

I had this conversation just over the weekend with a guy that has a major crush on me. He said he would do anything to have me in his life, as long as he could be in my presence. Well, that freaked me out, mainly because how can a CFO and capricorn. He explained that people just "grow" on each other and that even though he wasn't my type, didn't want kids and is 17 years older, that we could deal with that later?????????

So what, rob us both of our time just to satisfy his need for a relationship (nevermind that I am in one). So finally I had to break it down into his terms:

Me: "Hmmm, well let me ask you this"
Cappy: "Sure, anything"
Me: "As a business man, would you negotiate a contract with a company that you had no interest in working with, their products were incompatible with your products and you could not see any potential revenue stream in the future? Also, would you do this knowing that the potential dissolution of the companies involved would mean the loss of important employees, funds and legal problems?"
Cappy: "Well no, that would be foolish".
Me: "So why are you asking me to do that?"
Cappy: "I see what you mean, is it that bad"
Me: "Well, as the CFO would you invest in a partnership like I described".
Cappy: "No".

Okay, see. That's just it!! He would rather have had a failed relationship with someone he is not compatible with than be alone.

posted June 17, 2003 05:21 PM            

Thank you for your compliment and somewhat critical remarks. I am not talking from the standpoint that I haven't gone out with others. I am 33 and have had my share of fun, parties, dates, etc.. I also had my share of heartbreaks and broken other people's hearts by playing the game of "Love the one your with".

My independence is two-fold. One could say it's the Sagittarian nature to be skeptical of many things, especially of the heart and secondly, I have already seen and gone through enough hurt that what I have learned is to sit back and evaluate before jumping in.

There are at least 5 or 6 relationships where I followed my heart, had a blast, only to get bored and dump them. Was that fair to them? Several of those men later went out and married the next woman they met. It's almost like the movie Runaway Bride, but now I know how I like my eggs cooked.

Things with Mr. Leo are great, but at this time I cannot see moving out West. We are both working for the same company and need to complete some projects first. Maybe it will work out and maybe it won't. I see him at least 1-2 times a month for almost a week at a time, so it's not too much of a "long-distance" thing.

I am also extremely discreet about my relationships and really don't let people know and Mr. Leo because of the type of company I work for, so one of the problems that pops up is the unsolicited offers from guys. It's funny, but even with a huge diamond wedding ring, I still got hit on like this. So, I don't think it's the nature of my relationship with Mr. Leo. Hell, I have had several occassions on flights where some random guy will talk to me and then ask me out while I am in town. One reason may be because I am curious about people and I love to talk to them.

I do know of many people that like to play the field and get what they can from others. I just am not one of them. Maybe it's a control thing or not. I do love people and I socialize quite frequently at home and on the road. Sometimes it is overwhelming, but that's the life when you are flying all over the US and attending conferences promoting our technology.

So, I guess I see it as this; I have many social relationships and love to socialize, I have one serious love relationship and I also get my quiet time with my animals.

posted June 17, 2003 05:54 PM              

My Ex was a Virgo Rising too, and he preferred to keep his private life a secret/separate from his co-workers/professional life. What do you think of this as someone from the same rising sign?

posted June 17, 2003 06:07 PM            

I think it may have alot to do with my rising sign. Mr. Leo is the same way and has a Taurus rising and we're both not into public displays of affection. Now, when we are alone it's like that song "But when we get behind closed doors....."

I keep things pretty seperate as far as work and personal. In fact, the people at work didn't know I was separated until 4 months after I moved out and got my own place. They never even knew we had problems and were quite surprized about the whole thing (not that's it's any of their business anyway...LOL)

How about your ex, was he more affectionate and romantic behind closed doors? What was his sun sign?

posted June 17, 2003 06:32 PM              

But I dunno, just thinking it's funny for people to stick with relationships because of emotional dependence or routine, or MOST IMPORTANTLY... Fear of Change. I think that's why all the OC couples are still together... it's been so long they wouldn't even know what to do w/o a significant other...

I see a lot of that with my friends who don't hold much of a future, kinda like so they can tell themselves, "Well, at least I have someone"