posted April 26, 2013 07:14 AM            

And yes, congratulations on our Eros-IC.

I love the description of Moon-Eros, it is so emotional.

Here are my others:

"Composite Eros trine composite Venus

It is easy to surrender to this great Love as part of your attraction and desire for each other! Your desires together flow smoothly as you are touched and shaped deeply by this erotic connection. You can easily love your vulnerabilities and find a sense of meaning in surrendering to this Love."

"Composite Eros opposition composite Uranus

This is a profound meeting where the power of this great Love will be polarized with your independence and freedom. You are touched and shaped deeply by this erotic love for each other but at times may find it challenging to integrate your individual paths. You are both challenged to love your vulnerabilities and find a sense of meaning in surrendering to Love."

(Uranus is the ASC ruler, ASC on 00 Aquarius, which also feels significant, and it is conjunct the MC by 3-4 degrees; I guess there is something very obvious unusual about our connection)

No quinkunx interpretations though.

Obviously there is quite an interlinked pattern with Eros,

EROS: 14 Taurus
IC: 16 Taurus

Uranus: 12 Scorpio
MC: 16 Scorpio

Venus: 16 Capricorn

Mercury: 17 Sag
Neptune: 15 Sag
(Sappho: 17 Sag)

Pluto: 15 Libra

posted April 26, 2013 08:07 AM            

The trine to Venus;
Your *DESIRES* together flow smoothly...

The trine to Moon;
Your *COMFORT* together flows smoothly...

**

Something else;

Ofcourse because it's a Composite IC/EROS conjunction, there has to be a same-degree-aspect natally with both.

With us we both have an exact Eros/IC 105 degree aspect.

So googling...

MY.. it's a *SQUINE* man!

Ever heard of the Squine?
NO!

My I'm still learning every day..

I read;
Charles Jayne was particularly intrigued
by this minor aspect!
And he coined the term for it: "squine." That is, a hybrid between the square and the trine. You've got some of the laziness and the ease of sliding into it that comes with the trine, but at the same time some of the usefulness of the square, a definite tool, you're in between, you've got an incomplete tool that doesn't have quite a sharp enough edge, but it isn't fully automatic, so you have to put some energy into it, and this is essential to do a good job." http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologynow/thread/8ec4be5d-d204-4859-9dba-e33222d224d4

Zane Stein calls it the "Diamond in the rough aspect".

posted April 26, 2013 09:21 AM            

It's only me having the SQUINE (orb 0'55)
Him the BiSeptile! (0,08)

posted April 26, 2013 09:59 AM            

I was researching the 24th harmonic aspect today! Of all days, suddenly, and yes, Glaucus mentiond the squine on here some time ago.

I was interested in the 15 degree aspect especially. Why?

Cause I suddenly realized something.

He has an opposition natally of
his Mars/Jupiter/Amor/his name from 9-11 Virgo

to
his EROS /my name in his chart 8-9 Pisces

(which falls onto my chartruler Jupitr, Ceres, Pholus, Ishtar, Horus and Echnaton ROFL.
and my Hekate/Lilith/Rudra is on 6-8 virgo. lol
But let`s put this aside for a moment. too many asteorids confuse me.)

Now what I realized was this:

his AMOR quindecile my PSYCHE: 0°01!

his EROS (15 degree asp) my PSYCHE: 0°42

Since we have a one degree PSYCHE-PSYCHE-conjunction this is of course also true in relation to his natal chart itself.

When we met, both pr Psyches had come to conjunct his natal Eros.

(our ERos-IC-angle is roughly the same, but no aspect:
Mine: 106°
his: 109°

Of course his is waxing, mine is waning; it has to be in the polar phase to result in a conjunction I think)

And yes I also noted the emphasized COMFORT (Moon) vs DESIRE (Venus)

posted April 26, 2013 04:52 PM            

quote:

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our ERos-IC-angle is roughly the same, but no aspect:
Mine: 106°
his: 109°

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Yours is coming damn close to the SQUINE (105*)
His' damn close to the TREDECILE (108*)

An orb within 1* is allowed.

Waning or waxing.. yes, and ALSO;

His' is waxing
Mine is waning!

posted April 27, 2013 06:59 AM            

An orb within 1* is allowed."
Yes.

"(I assume mine is waning with IC = 25 Scorp/Eros = 10 Leo)"
Yes. No mattr how quickly Eros movs, IC is faster.

On a random note, did anyone else feel some strange tugging or pull at the region of their navel or whatever chakra there is this morning?
No? then it must have been only me.

posted April 27, 2013 11:57 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:
Hm.. interesting.
It's a matter of picking out the words that differ.

The trine to Venus;
Your *DESIRES* together flow smoothly...

The trine to Moon;
Your *COMFORT* together flows smoothly...

**

Something else;

Ofcourse because it's a Composite IC/EROS conjunction, there has to be a same-degree-aspect natally with both.

With us we both have an exact Eros/IC 105 degree aspect.

So googling...

MY.. it's a *SQUINE* man!

Ever heard of the Squine?
NO!

My I'm still learning every day..

I read;
Charles Jayne was particularly intrigued
by this minor aspect!
And he coined the term for it: "squine." That is, a hybrid between the square and the trine. You've got some of the laziness and the ease of sliding into it that comes with the trine, but at the same time some of the usefulness of the square, a definite tool, you're in between, you've got an incomplete tool that doesn't have quite a sharp enough edge, but it isn't fully automatic, so you have to put some energy into it, and this is essential to do a good job." http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologynow/thread/8ec4be5d-d204-4859-9dba-e33222d224d4

Zane Stein calls it the "Diamond in the rough aspect".

So, what are your natal degrees?

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I JUST found that yesterday. Along with the squile (square-sextile hybrid). And the 15° aspect - the quattuorvigintile. They're all 24th harmonic, which resonates with the quindecile.

I've been surprised to find several 24th harmonic aspects. Tempted to run a 24th harmonic chart ....

posted April 27, 2013 11:59 AM            

We ALL were looking up the 24th harmonic yesterday? Wow!

posted April 27, 2013 12:03 PM            

How amazing, our thoughts led us the same way!

Let`s compare notes on the 24th.

posted April 27, 2013 12:22 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"ours is coming damn close to the SQUINE (105*)
His' damn close to the TREDECILE (108*)

An orb within 1* is allowed."
Yes.

"(I assume mine is waning with IC = 25 Scorp/Eros = 10 Leo)"
Yes. No mattr how quickly Eros movs, IC is faster.

On a random note, did anyone else feel some strange tugging or pull at the region of their navel or whatever chakra there is this morning?
No? then it must have been only me.

(just for clarification, it was nothing really physical)

---

It's funny you say that, as I DID have a weird sensation up a few inches to the left of my navel. Just as you'd described. But that was yesterday. It lasted for a few seconds - maybe a bit longer. It felt like a pressure or pulling. Then just went away.

What's really getting me is that around midnight, I had the strangest and most overwhelming feeling of ... him. Overwhelmed by him, by us being apart, not really speaking. It would've led me to make contact (sending an email) but I know not to do that anymore. I'd realised that it never did anything but aggravate him; my not answering his calls, then emailing that I was sorry and really did want to stay in touch. Augh. I felt so trapped.

Anyway. Last night, it was just ... overwhelming is the word. I missed him SO much. I wanted to tell him ... that I love him. Did I realise last night that I actually DO? I'm so logical about everything. I couldn't acknowledge I might love him - because of the complex relationship of years at a distance. I figured I loved my idea of him - and that changed when he hurt me so deeply. Or that I loved the way he made me feel. Or rather, how I felt with him.

But this overwhelming desire to tell him I love him .... That I miss him SO much. It was the most horrible longing to fall asleep with. I felt so alone ... hopeless ... and confused. I wasn't going to email him. What good would it do? I don't even know what to say to him. It felt like, 'I love you, good-bye.' Like I know nothing else to do. That it all feels so broken beyond compare. I can't be his friend. I just can't. I used to feel embarrassment about that - ME unable to be a man's friend - because of attraction? That'd never happened! It didn't think it could! But ... with him? I can't be his friend. That's what caused everything to go permanently south, too. All because I took a chance - and he's too afraid.

And, God, he's in SO much pain. He's just ... miserable. I heard it in his voicemail yesterday. It's been hard not to think of it since. Maybe it all just got to me last night.

Along with the hopelessness that comes from feeling or fearing that I've never loved anyone the way I love him. As much? Probably. My husband, for example. But the way? No. Never. And it all feels so gone, too. Just ... gone.

posted April 27, 2013 02:59 PM            

15° and 165°
and
75° and 105°

posted April 27, 2013 03:49 PM            

my Jupiter 75 his Sun: 0°45
my Sun 105 his Jupiter: 0°47
composite: Sun 165 Jupiter: 0°46

my Venus 75 his Pluto: 0°16
(my Pluto 105 his Venus: 1°50)
comp: Venus square Pluto: 0°47

posted April 27, 2013 03:57 PM            

my NN 75 his Psycche
my NN 75 his Pallas
my Neptune 75 his Psyche
my Neptune 75 his Pallas
my Psych 75 his Chiron
my Psyche 75 his Mercury

my Sun 105 his Mars
my NN 105 his ASC
my Neptune 105 his ASC
my Mercury 105 his Jupitr
my IC 105 his Neptune
my IC 105 his Cupido

----------------------

my Mercury 15 his Mercury
my Psyche 15 his Eros
my ASC 15 his Cupido
my Venus 15 his Cupido
my Venus 15 his Neptune
my Mars 15 his Neptune

my Jupiter 165 his Saturn
my Psyche 165 his Amor 0°01!
my Moon 165 his NN
my Juno 165 his NN
my Pluto 165 his ASC
my IC 165 his Pluto

posted April 27, 2013 06:06 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Checking for our synastric 24th harmonic aspects:

my Jupiter 75 his Sun: 0°45
my Sun 105 his Jupiter: 0°47
composite: Sun 165 Jupiter: 0°46

my Venus 75 his Pluto: 0°16
(my Pluto 105 his Venus: 1°50)
comp: Venus square Pluto: 0°47

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Knew that rung a bell.

Fate and I've got his AQU Eros 75° 0'15' away from my SCO Moon Then his Mars-Psyche is 76° 0'14 from my IC. Not sure if that even matters. It's also 105° 0'20' away from my Destinn. THAT's interesting.

Something of note: the definite pattern here. The 75° is at 10° SAG, the 75° at 10° SCO. Clearly, how the harmonics work, but, still. Were there to be several in succession, it smacks of a configuration. There's likely one at work in your synastry there. Here, not so much, outside of there being several quindeciles.

posted April 28, 2013 05:58 AM            

However I do know semisquares and sesisquares are strong as well, now that you mentioned them. Maybe because if connected to squares they make these nice energetic midpoint-patterns.

For example:

My Jupiter squares my NN-Neptune.
His Venus semisquares my Jupiter and my NN-Neptune, thus hsi Venus is on the midpoint of my Jupiter/Neptune and Jupiter/NN.
His Venus is also on the midpoint of my Moon/Venus interestingly. (but natally my Moon and Venus are in novile aspect, not in a 8th harmonic aspect).

Anyway I love these midpoint patterns in our synastry, and yes I like it that his Venus is semisquare my Jupiter, Neptune and NN. LOL

his Pluto is also semisquare my ASC-Mars-conjunction. That one is a shade darker I guess.

Th funny thing is that the 24th harmonic puts all the aspects together, including minor ones, that I find important. the 12th harmonic does so, too, EXCEPT for the semisquare, sesisquare and the quindeciles of course.

However, discussing th 8th harmonic aspects, I wouldn´t believe it before, but they ARE quite some feisty minor aspects.
I had an analysis of my natal chart with darkstar astrology, and they pointed out that i have a "Thor`s Hammer" in my chart, with Chiron being square Vertex and both being sesisquare Mars (Chiron in 4th, Vertex in 8th and Mars in 12th).

Boy did THAT make sense!
Of course Vertex is precisely conjunct EROS and opp. Sun/Moon-mp, so it is a big thing in my chart.

posted April 28, 2013 02:08 PM            

Interestingly though in the first helio composite there is Persephone on 17 Gemini -
my KARMA is on 16 Gemini, his SATURN on 15 Gemini, and hsi Venus on 13 Sag.
Hmmm.

In the second one we have Persephone on 11 Leo -
his tropical Persephone on 13 Leo! (haha, it is about HIM, not me. LOL)

The closest link I have is my tropical Moon on 17 Aquarius roughly conjunct his SAppho on - get this - 13 Aquarius!

As a matter of fact in the tropical composite we have a conjunction of TRISTAN (the one from Tristan and Isolde) and STONEHENGE on 13 Aquarius EXACT.

Since this degree popped up I checked the SAbian.

13 Aquarius
A Train Entering A Tunnel

13 Leo
A Human Soul Seeking Opportunities For Outward Manifestation

The antiscion of this is 16 Taurus and 16 Scorpio.

Interestingly my name in my chart is on 16 Taurus, and my LANCELOT, SIVA, MOIRA,whatever stellium is from 15-17 SCorpio. LOL
Lancelot on 16 Scorpio naturally.

our tropical composite MC is 16 Scorpio, EROS 14 Taurus. It all leads back to that damned ERos on IC, doesn`t it? lol

HAHA, just realized

my EURYIKE is on 15 Scorpio, my ORPHEUS on 10 Aquarius conjunct PALLAS.

LOL his Eurydike is conjunct my Sun.

Also our helio composite ORPHEUS is on 11 Aquarius, *scratches head*

Okay, Persephone/Proserpina myth big time, and then his Eurydike on my Sun on GC ?

posted April 28, 2013 02:38 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I didn`t even notice.

Interestingly though in the first helio composite there is Persephone on 17 Gemini -
my KARMA is on 16 Gemini, his SATURN on 15 Gemini, and hsi Venus on 13 Sag.
Hmmm.

In the second one we have Persephone on 11 Leo -
his tropical Persephone on 13 Leo! (haha, it is about HIM, not me. LOL)

... Okay, Persephone/Proserpina myth big time, and then his Eurydike on my Sun on GC ?

So first he lures me into the underworld and then he wants to lead me out of there? Colour me confused.

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posted April 28, 2013 02:39 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]I didn`t even notice.

Interestingly though in the first helio composite there is Persephone on 17 Gemini -
my KARMA is on 16 Gemini, his SATURN on 15 Gemini, and hsi Venus on 13 Sag.
Hmmm.

In the second one we have Persephone on 11 Leo -
his tropical Persephone on 13 Leo! (haha, it is about HIM, not me. LOL)

... Okay, Persephone/Proserpina myth big time, and then his Eurydike on my Sun on GC ?

So first he lures me into the underworld and then he wants to lead me out of there? Colour me confused.

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The prosecution rests. [/B][/QUOTE]

posted April 28, 2013 02:45 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

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This totally happens with me, too, though. For example, Fata's very much an Eros/Psyche Psyche/Cupido, what-have-you, flavoured dynamic, whereas Jack is all Hades and 'sephone. (Or Pluto and Proserpina? Because that's alliterative, and prettier than 'Pluto and Serpina'.)

What I'M starting to wonder, since you inspired me to do so, is if you can sort of gauge at what point you are in the 'mythos' per certain points? For example, can you 'time' Psyche and Eros by using Cupido after they're married and all is well? And, while Proserpina is just the Romanised version - since it DID come later - is it Persephone once she's become Queen of the Underworld?