posted May 03, 2013 07:26 AM            

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So much for my secret space.

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That was an interesting read. So a whole new delivery with this Sag-guy, touching your Sun/Mercury so intensely...!

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BTW for all his patterns he uses a 2,5° orb and sais that a 1,5° orb is necessary for strong contacts.

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Ok, I was also curious to this! (like Indigo) Yea.. I should have that book but I'm not ready yet I feel, knowing too little about harmonics etc. (that link-page I gave is all I have)

So, he uses these orbs also for his Composite alignments (= Composite conjunctions/oppositions, to answer Indigo about *aspects*) I guess...?

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He also mentions the importance of composite planets conjunct or opposite natal planets, which is true in my synastry.

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posted May 03, 2013 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Somehow, I know, you're more than ready for the greater responsibility. You'll do brilliantly. There's a natural heart in what you do; I think because you channel so much of it into your mind, honestly. So trust your intuition.

Meanwhile, Saturn must be jacking with my Merc again. I feel I've lost all my words; my expression is SO lacking, or there's such limited energy for it. Augh!

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Thank you, Indigo.

It seems like the universe wants to drill the message home with a sledgehammer. LOL

ACtually that extra-job consists of me having to initiate and deepen the contact between the school I am working in and local theatres; publishing theatre programs, organizing visits, inviting actors/ directors for discussions or projects at school, whatever they are willing to do I guess.

Talking with the "second in command" he also suggested (and you can`t say No to your boss ) that I`d be making a theatre project, not necessarily doing plays, but just everything surrounding theatre; actually if the first boss agrees with such a project at all, I will be able to create it as freely and individually as I want to.

After that talk I was checking my mails, and I had a mail fromt he local theatre my parents and me visit regularly, with the highlights of their coming program. Just, they have never done that before. Heck, I have no clue wehre they have my email from!

When I came home, I was having a letter from a theatre I once saw a musical in "The full Monty" (just because HE was having a role in it ), and they mentioned that musical and suggested me visiting another of their musical productions.

Well, of course it is advertising, but the thing is they have never done that before (and the Full Monty-performance has been one and a half year ago!).

It just struck me so odd that exactly the moment I decided to take that extra-job, these mails came pouring in. LOL

posted May 03, 2013 01:56 PM            

"So a whole new delivery with this Sag-guy, touching your Sun/Mercury so intensely...!"
Yes, exactly.

Actually, as I mentioned, the rim planets of my bucket formation without Chiron are Jupiter and Pluto.
Wanna guess where the midpoint of these fall?

Jupiter/Pluto-mp: 25°09 Sagittarius
Sun: 25°56 Sagittarius
Mercury. 25°03 Sagittarius

As unaspected my Sun-Mercury is, it IS an important spot in my chart, and I guess it is about time I expressed it visibly.

"So, he uses these orbs also for his Composite alignments (= Composite conjunctions/oppositions, to answer Indigo about *aspects*) I guess...?"
I did not see the question of Indigo I guess. what did she ask exactly?

He uses these orbs for asessing relationship compatibility, which would include the composite and the synastry.
At least these would be the really strong connections.

Since he uses harmonics extensively it makes sense. I wouldn´t want to use a greater orb than that for a novile either. lol

posted May 03, 2013 02:16 PM            

A mutual cross - chart aspect, is a DW-aspect. HOwever in his example he states that if the angle between B`s Moon and A`s Sun is 61 degrees, and between B`s Sun and A`s Moon is 60°, then both are sextile, and thus mutual cross chart aspects.

however if the angles would have been 56 degrees and 57 degrees, it would not have been a mutual cross chart aspect. From that you can see HOW serious he is about the tight orbs.

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a reverse parallel aspect means that both people have the same aspect between the same planets (parallel aspect, but not to be confused with the declinations; he is only talking about longitudes), but that one chart has the waning and the other the waxing aspect, meaning in the case of Sun and Moon, the order is reversed.
For example:
B has Sun as the first planet followed by MOon, and A has Moon first in the zodiac, and later then Sun.

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I doubt there will be all that many conjunctions/Oppositions in any given composite that fulfil that condition for the strongest connection (though he gives some other strong connections as well).

He also states that other aspects can be important, but they are secondary to conjunction and oppostion.

Personally I think even if only one of these conditions (mutual cross chart aspect or reverse parallel aspect) exists, and even if one of the aspect is let`s say 5 degrees, and the other is closer than that, it is definitely a "hot spot".

posted May 03, 2013 02:30 PM            

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So much for my secret space.

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I feel that way about my Venus. I think that's why Leroux affected me so deeply as a child. (Prior to that, I was reading Doyle, Carroll, and so on.) There's something so terrifying and yet liberating about that story - which harkens right back to one of my oldest favourite myths: good ol' Hades and Persephone. I remember reading that one when I was about 8 and just, it resonated so much. Couldn't quite tell why. But over time, with THIS many trips to the Underworld? Pffth. Oh, yeah. I get it NOW.

So, my poor Venus in Virgo, hanging out in the 12H all by her lonesome, (occasionally chilling with Newton, it looks like) meeting up with Mercury every now and then, mostly hangs out in the dark.

When someone's Sun comes knocking - oh, God. Her precious solitude is wrecked. Neptune and Psyche are quite nice, though she's still a bit freaked by how much they KNOW. My mother's Merc is there, and, honestly, she's one of the VERY few that can ACTUALLY get me to talk. (Outside of Fata, but that's neither here nor there. His Ura-Merc square's not exactly gentle, if you get me.)

And Adonis contraparellel's, too. Right on my Pluto, so closely conjunct my Sun. And Aphrodite. OF COURSE. So, she's quite fascinated with Adonis, but, of course, ever the friggin' martyr (:bashes over the head with a book she's content to take herself entirely out of the running; she can't win against Aphrodite. NO WAY.

If she had a motto, it'd be: 'who, me?'

HIS bloody Aphrodite even tries to give her a makeover. No dice. At the very least encourages her to get out into the light every now and again.

Her only real company is my stepdaughter's Moon. She's content to sit in the dark and tell stories, read in the candlelight and peacefully share the solitude. Ahhhh.

Jack's Psyche is one of her best friends, who comes around time to time. (She was a firm believer in advising Psyche against the whole unveiling thing, just so you know. Let what's in the dark simply be in the dark, and trust your soul.)

She's still not sure what to do with his Pluto. It's QUITE a lot to take! Fortunately, he's not been so bold as to drag her out. It's a damned powerful siren-song, all the same. She wrestles with it rather a lot; especially since his Mars inspires this resonant attraction within her (contraparallel). It's ALL a bit much.

Never doubt the power of a close conjunction with such a lonely planet. Though only acquaintances who were typically at a distance, she's still deeply saddened over the loss of another's Venus, less than 1º orb from her, with a near-exact parallel.

He bestowed upon her a rather unusual gift, following his passing, however. An exact conjunction of a Mars-Uranus duo, with whom his Venus had been close friends. They always shake her out of any rut and have patient plans to make some excellent art together.

And yet ... of the conjunctions, the trines, the squares, the oppositions even - there's one by which she's most haunted, most intrigued. Most confused.

That damned quindecile from his Mars.

(She doesn't even like to acknowledge him, if she can help it.) The senselessness of it; the overwhelming annoyance and sheer foolishness. It's unnerving! She isn't prone to obsession. She's content to stay about in the dark, doing her thing, enjoying the occasional visit from one of her welcome friends.

HE is not welcome. HE makes it ALL topsy-turvy. HE can't make up his mind, and breezes through like a bloody hurricane, leaving everything in such disarray that it takes her eons to put it back in shape. Not an easy task - in the dark!

And yet ... the worst, most inane thing of it all ... is she can't get him out of her head! She pleads with him not to come around, if he's just going to do that again. And again. And AGAIN.

And yet ... when he comes around ... she doesn't even recognise herself anymore, the solitary creature she is. Suddenly, it feels like loneliness. She craves his blustering abstractions. His ridiculous soliloquising on every crazy little thing that pops into his wild mind. He's gentler than she expected (must be the close relationship with his Psyche.) He can wax idiosyncratic just before lapsing into a sudden profundity. Poetry and paradox. She can hardly keep up!

But, oh, does she try; because when he's there, all boundaries melt away. The distance, the separation, is only an illusion. He speaks all that she's previously vowed to keep unspoken. He speaks the language of her soul - and only in the way a man with such complicated desires can. So, so very hot - and then - just as suddenly cold.

And gone.

She says she won't DO this anymore. She cannot let him, she WON'T let him DO THIS anymore. She says ....

And when it comes about she isn't lying, she's just desperate and in love and lost and SO unprepared, and - and when she DOES keep him away, when she DOES what she SAYS she's going to do ... she weeps in her solitude, with every fibre of her being. She returns to her vow to let those things remain as unspoken as before, and never, EVER, be so foolish again.

Right.

posted May 03, 2013 03:39 PM            

"I think that's why Leroux affected me so deeply as a child."
We are talking about Gaston I suppose?
Yes, so deeply ingrained in me, this story as well. So much as a matter of fact that I heard this voice singing, while visiting the old opera in Paris. I was in such a strange state of trance back then. I remember my mom was looking for me everywhere and she couldn´t find me.

Happened later on when I saw HIM on an open air musical in the ruins of a castle to the village I fell in love with (as did he, as he later said).
I had been meeting someone there and we have been wandering on the path surrounding the ruins, however it was not that secluded. Yet, my parents who spontaneously had come there to see if they might find me there, couldn`t find me at all, even though as we later realized we were at the SAME location. It was, strange to say, but it was like we had been in different dimensions.
Well, if something like that can happen, it wold happen THERE.

"There's something so terrifying and yet liberating about that story"

"good ol' Hades and Persephone. I remember reading that one when I was about 8 and just, it resonated so much"
Yes, it did so, too, for me. Always does that Persephone story.

and yet there is another one, I read when being a child, young teenager, and it painfully reverberated to me, almost as if I had a hunch at what was going to happen.
I am talking about the story of Ariadne and Dionysos/ Bacchus.

Curiously, in a synastry report some years ago, (about someone else btw), this story came up as part of the tarot reading.

This is what the report said:

"The final card Corona was the story of abandoned Ariadne, how the myth ends is that after
working through the pain of Theseus's leaving, in the midst of her mourning her true soul
mate Dionysus materialised to crown her. Love and loss are intertwined, but it is only
through accepting the grief that true love can once again be experienced."

I couldn`t keep on reading. I sat there, totally shocked and shaken, and the pain was so excruciating, like someone had put a dagger right through my heart and twisted it around. And then I wept and wept and wept. For the love I lost. For the dreams that died. The faith that fractured. And most of all for myself, for the soul that once had been so alive, and now was petrified. A broken spirit, a hollow core.

I like this song, that kind of is how I felt about me at that time. Maybe still do to a certain degree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8GUG6PwNc8

I really thought she was gone. But I guess I was given a second chance.

And back then with all that was being said in that synastry report - and it was an awesome one!- I also knew that THIS, these few , non astrological lines were the reason I HAD to read that report. THAT was whta i needed to hear to feel to understand.

It was only later that I actually checked for these asteroids.

ARIADNE is on 8 Scorpio in 11th house
(naturally opposite my Eros/Psyche-mp, Part of Marriage, asteroid ACTOR and conjunct my DRaconic Saturn and Draconic Eros/Vertex/Sun/Moon-mp)

BACCHUS on 13 Scorpio in 11th house as well

DIONYSOS on 20 Aquarius conjunct my Moon and on the exact antiscion of ARIADNE.

HIS ARIADNE on 15 Taurus opposes my BACCHUS (and btw my name in my chart is 16 Taurus)

his BACCHUS on 10 Capricorn sextiles my ARIADNE

his DIONYSOS on 10 Leo squares my ARIADNE

In the composite DIONYSOS on 15 Taurus, not only on his natal ARIADNE, but conjunct composite EROS And IC.

But even more than this

composite BACCHUS on 12.11 Sagittarius trines composite ARIADNE on 12.07 Leo in 7th house.

ARIADNE and DIONYSOS are also parallel each other. Another theme. And decidedly more happy than other themese in that chart.

The parallels in the myths are interesting. After Ariadne was being deserted by Theseus, Dionysos found her SLEEPING, and instantly fell in love with her. He married her, and eventually, after the wounds of abandonment were healed, she returned his love.
She was being killed later on and descended to the UNDERWORLD.
Dionysos however followed her and brought her back, and they were joined in the Olymp. Like Psyche or Adonis Ariadne had been a mortal, being deified and immortalized by the love of a God.

"Never doubt the power of a close conjunction with such a lonely planet."
Actually I have two.

My Moon is unaspected as well, though I DO count the exact inconjunct to Saturn (doesn`t make her any happier).

In both cases though there are tight declinational aspects.

My Sun being parallel MErcury and Venus; my MOon being parallel Uranus and Juno and contraparallel Pluto.

However in the case of his luminaries and MC on my Sun.
At first, for the first times I saw him, I really only noticed him, because he payed unduly attention to me. At first it surprised and confused me. Then intrigued me. Over time I started to EXPECT it. And now, I hate to say it, I feel like I almost need it. Or if he should withdraw his attention, I am not sure how to deal with the cold breeze of that.
In some weird way he makes me "shine". Not because I bathe in his "fame" or glory or whatever, but because in some weird way he reflects something about myself back to me. As if I can see myself reflected in him. Like an echo, a mirror image of the girl I was a long time ago. The child with wondering eyes and the firm faith that ANYTHING is possible and limitations are only in the mind, the child that was so carefree inside, so much surrounded and filled with love, that nothing could ever dim this light.
I think, that faith, that enthusiasm that is my Sun in SAgittarius in 1st house.

"That damned quindecile from his Mars."
It sounds more than intense.

"So long as they don't get too close."
I understand you so well, and yet, just lately I`v come to realize that this is what I am here to learn.
Closeness. DESPITE the scars on my soul.
My soul, my spirit may have been battered and beathen, but it has not been broken.
I survived, and now it is time I start living again.

posted May 03, 2013 03:56 PM            

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Jupiter/Pluto-mp: 25°09 Sagittarius
Sun: 25°56 Sagittarius
Mercury. 25°03 Sagittarius

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According to the Magi this is the very verry most important midpoint! (Jupiter/Pluto)

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he also sais that the absolutley most powerful connection between 2 charts is a composite conjunction or oposition that is supported by a mutual cross-chart aspect and a reverse parallel aspect.
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That all was rrreally interesting!

Ok, now the BIG question,

- he uses ANY aspect? (like sesquiquadrate)
- he uses JUNO? or any other rock?

IF SO, than we have at least ONE in Geo ... with our Sun/Juno.

posted May 03, 2013 04:36 PM            

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It's like I can almost smell he doesn't use rocks.. am I right?

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Lol

Good sense of smell!

For some reason that reminded me of something ARroyo once wrote in terms of astrologers jumping onto asteroids, it was something like: "If it moves, interprete it!"

anyway no, I don´t think Cochrane uses asteroids, probably not even Chiron. lol
But we do not have to do it ALL the same as he does, right?

He didn`t really specify the aspects he uses. But said conjunction/ opposition in composite are THE most powerful.

Anyway, in another "rule" for asessing compatibility he uses the 18th harmonic aspect; I do think he uses all harmonic aspects (with a stronger focus on the lower ones), but keeps the orb very strict.

posted May 03, 2013 04:37 PM            

Is it also a reverse parallel aspect? Meaning do you both have Sun-Juno aspects natally?

just found his video on harmonic charts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYpPZQhBFc&feature=youtu.be

comp

posted May 03, 2013 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
he also said that the absolutley most powerful connection between 2 charts is a composite conjunction or oposition that is supported by a mutual cross-chart aspect and reverse parallel aspect.

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That's intriguing. This is what I see, which is interesting, as I was recently led to reexamine Mercury, specifically. Though, I'm honestly not sure which is faster-moving: Valentine or Mercury. They practically pace each other, it seems.

COMPOSITE:

Venus-Valentine conjunction
Mercury-Valentine conjunction

SYNASTRY:

Venus sextile Valentine
Valentine sextile Venus

Mercury conjunct Valentine
Valentine conjunct Mercury

Should Mercury be the faster-moving:

His Mercury conjunct my Valentine (S)
(Sagittarius / Sagittarius)
My Valentine conjunct his Mercury (A)
(Scorpio / Scorpio)

Venus, I'm sure, is the slower-mover.

His Venus sextile my Valentine (S)
(Aquarius / Sagittarius)
My Venus sextile his Valentine (A)
(Virgo / Scorpio)

posted May 03, 2013 05:24 PM            

my Valentine trine his Juno (waxing)
his Valentine trine my Juno (waning)

composite:
Valentine opposite Juno

we also have a DW of Mercury-Neptune conjunction (while his Mercury is exact on my Neptune; his Neptune is 5 degrees off my Mercury); of course it comes up as Mercury-Neptune-conjunction in composite.

I find this very interesting, as this is widely opposite Jupiter. Mercury and Jupiter are in mutual reception, like in synastry. And Mercury and Jupiter rule both relationship axis.

In composite however; Mercury as ruler of 5th house in 11th house; Jupiter as ruler of 11th house in 5th house.
Mercury naturally also rules the 8th house; and Neptune rules th 2nd house.

ALL fixed houses gathered together and triggering each other.

Additionally the fixed signs are somewhat emphasised as well, as the angles are all fixed. ASC Aquarius, DESC Leo, MC Scorpio, IC Taurus.

also Vertex, Karma, SATurn and Destinn in Leo in 7th house; Psyche in Aquarius in 1st house.

chartruler Uranus and Valentine in Scorpio.

Eros and BML and Juno in Taurus. Oh and Lachesis is in Taurus as well

posted May 03, 2013 05:28 PM            

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So your Sun-juno is a mutual cross aspect.
Is it also a reverse parallel aspect? Meaning do you both have Sun-Juno aspects natally?

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Oooow my......

I get it now! (seeing the last sentence)

You mean this;

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he also sais that the absolutley most powerful connection between 2 charts is a composite conjunction or oposition that is supported by a mutual cross-chart aspect AND a reverse parallel aspect.

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What a mishap!

posted May 03, 2013 06:06 PM            

We have ONE in HELIO!

(this HAS to be the type of guy that uses HELIO ~ Cochrane)

His Pluto trine my Venus (1)
My Pluto trine his Venus (2)

My Pluto QUINTILE! my Venus (2)
His Pluto QUINTILE! his Venus (1)

It *IS* waning/waxing!

Composite Pluto OPPOSITE Composite Venus (1'38)

posted May 03, 2013 06:28 PM            

We both have natally a waxing Venus - Pluto-square

his Venus is in 7/24th (105°) angle to my Pluto:
my Venus is in 5/ 24th (75°) angle to his Pluto

in the composite this results, not in a conjunction or opposition, but in a square between Venus and Pluto.

This happens because the aspects are in the same phase I think.

Funnily though in the helio composite there is an exact trine of Venus and Pluto.

BTW I like quintiles I think.

Loved that here

"n synastry, between charts, quintiles can produce an almost otherworldly understanding of the way the individual planets are operating. If my Saturn is quintile your Venus, you will have an innate compassion for my Saturn issues, and I will instinctively know how to support your Venus.

However, relationships dominated by quintiles often possess an otherworldly quality of their own, as if they don’t rely on the common things of this life to survive. Loves that continue long after the affair is over are often quintile loves. " [URL=http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/]http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/[/UR L]

WE actualy have a 5th harmonic triangle in composite.

Jupiter in 5th is quintile Saturn in 7th and both are biquintile Venus in 12th.

Obviously that means Venus is on the Jupiter/Saturn-mp. lol

posted May 03, 2013 10:21 PM            

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We both have natally a waxing Venus - Pluto-square

his Venus is in 7/24th (105°) angle to my Pluto:
my Venus is in 5/ 24th (75°) angle to his Pluto

in the composite this results, not in a conjunction or opposition, but in a square between Venus and Pluto.

This happens because the aspects are in the same phase I think.

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Ok that's interesting.
Then you probably share the nr. 3) *MIXED MIDPOINT ALIGNMENT* (those can be verrry hidden also btw, me thinks);

The midpoint of his Pluto and your Venus
The midpoint of your Pluto and his Venus

About equal?

posted May 04, 2013 05:42 AM            

They are indeed close to each other but def. out of midpoint orbs, however despite that they might result in th composite aspect, as the distance has to be divided by 2 (persons).

his Pluto - my Venus: 28°45 Scorpio
my Pluto - his Venus: 02°30 Sagittarius.

The orb would be 3°45 - our Venus-Pluto square in composite has an orb of 00°47

The midpoint of my Pluto and his Venus is interesting, as some composite midpoints fall there.

composite:
Moon/PLuto: 04°03 Sag
Venus/Mars: 04°34 Sag

Why am I mentioning these?

Because of this:

As you can see Venus is clearly square Pluto; Moon is clearly square Mars.

On its own I wouldn´t count Venus-Mars square (7 degrees) or Moon-Pluto square (8 degrees).

Also would think Moon - Venus conjunction is a tad wide (6 degrees), as is Mars-Pluto-conjunction (8 degrees).

But in this instance I am inclined to pay it more attention.

Just see what happens when we are doing the midpoints!

Moon/Venus-mp: 19°26 Capricorn
Mars/Pluto-mp: 19°11 Libra

and they are aligned with the nodal axis!
Moon/Venus probably representing a skipped step and Mars/Pluto representing the direction of development this is taking.

I wonder if that comes to pass ecause there is some connection betwen Moon-Venus-Mars-Pluto in the natals or synastries I do not see as of yet.

Actually I have always been switching between DAvison and composite, but after reading Cochrane I suddenly understood WHY the composite is important (and how it can not be the same as a Davison, though this mights still be very important, just must have a slightly different meaning), because it is all a result by the very unique make up of each person`s natal! The symmetry is stunning!

posted May 04, 2013 08:15 AM            

So, in Composite;

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Moon/Venus-mp: 19°26 Capricorn
Mars/Pluto-mp: 19°11 Libra

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So, the midpoint of both natal Moon/Venus midpoints = 19'26 Cap.
Same case for Mars/Pluto.

So, creating a midpoint of both natal midpoints ~ well, let's be honest; how important is the Composite Sun/Moon midpoint? Verry! I just mean to say; it's impossible to exclude other of such midpoints, not logical at-all.

It's indeed interesting that when you *switch* the planets (without losing your symmetrical mind lol).. you get conjunct midpoints! (the exact *grand square* here is ofcourse already promising this)

posted May 04, 2013 08:23 AM            

"Which sub-signs are most important? Which ones should we use?
Here is something interesting: The 1st (normal or rasi sign), 12th, and 30th harmonics are numerically related! The length of the 30th harmonic sign is 1 degree! Bingo! This may be the zodiac sign that creates the degree meaning! Uh-oh, a radical idea that may not sit well with many astrologers!

In the "normal" zodiac there is 1 zodiac and there are 12 signs and each sign has 30 degrees. In the 12th harmonic there ae 12 zodiacs and each zodiac has 30 de"

grees. In the 30th harmonic there are 30 zodiacs and each zodiac has 12 degrees and each sign is 1 degree. The numbers 12 and 30 repeat."

" 30th harmonic (tradamsa) is who you are at your core, the inner you. "
http://www.astrosoftware.com/DegreeMeaning.htm

What do you think of it? What does the 30th harmonic say about you? Do you identify?

of course the 30th harmonic also is a higher octave of the 5th harmonic (and the 3rd and the 6th).

I actually have a STellium in my 30th harmonic chart of:

MC: 29 leo
Moon: 3 Virgo
Mars: 5 Virgo
Jupiter: 6 Virgo

(this is because Moon and Mars are in exact quintile in my chart; 72° precise - so it would come up in the 30th harmonic as well.

That chart also has Sun and Mercury in Taurus.
So I guess my inner me would be rather earthy. lol

Well, the Venus in Aries looks at me strangely, and even in that chart she is squared by Pluto, even more closely than in the natal chart. lol

I am not really getting why they are using other aspects than the conjunction in harmonic charts, but anyway, going along my 30th harmonic chart has these outstanding patterns:

1) T.square:
MC and Moon opposing Saturn on 28 Aquarius squaring Sun on 28 Taurus

2) Sun on 28 Taurus trines Neptune on 28 Cap exact, but there is a missing factor on about 28 Virgo to make it a Grand trine

3) Grand trine:
Mercury on 1 Taurus trine Moon on 3 Virgo and the other Virgo planets trine Pluto on 2 Capricorn

4) Yod
Venus on 3 Aries sextile Nodes on 4 Aquarius quinkunx Moon on 3 Virgo

The whole 30th harmonic patterns are directed at that STellium of MC, Moon, Mars, Jupiter. LOL

Makes kinda sense, seeing that they are in 30th harmonic aspect in natal chart.

posted May 04, 2013 10:28 AM            

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Actually I have always been switching between DAvison and composite, but after reading Cochrane I suddenly understood WHY the composite is important (and how it can not be the same as a Davison, though this mights still be very important, just must have a slightly different meaning)

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EXACTLY! And I just needed that one & only page of Cochrane to become truly aware of its importance.

posted May 04, 2013 02:08 PM            

(I hope it is okay to post it on your thread, Indigo)

posted May 04, 2013 09:04 PM            

Sun-Saturn exact opp. sounds heavy but IS IT?

posted May 05, 2013 02:48 AM            

That composite has SUCH concentration (and this is cursory look; no declinations, either, obviously) that there's just NO question of HOW intensely that's felt. ALL of it!

I'm intrigued by the statement on Juno; I recently read how it can have a fated / inevitable quality. Almost like we'll expect to see close Juno contacts in those relationships we end up in, for better and worse.