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posted June 28, 2002 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful, I am so happy for you. You dont have to thank me, it is God who is showing u the right path.
The true seekers always get their reply.


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posted July 01, 2002 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, here's another one. I had this dream (frag I suspect) on Friday night:

There are several women - mostly in their 40's and 50's - working in some kind of factory - something like an old time laundry where the clothes have to be taken out of the hot water with sticks and then pressed through rollers to squeeze out the excess water. One woman is looking around and is feeling rather nervous as she "knows" something is going to happen. A short while later, she sort of folds in half and is "fed" into the roller which is more like a wood chipper. Afterwards, I - and I'm alone now, not sure where - reflect on what happened and think that this is only half of the answer/puzzle.

That's all I remember.

I'm not sure what to make of this one. At first I thought it was bizarre and I should be rather frightened, but the more I thought about it, there seemed to be some connection with the earlier dreams.

Any ideas?

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posted July 02, 2002 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful,

I suspect u know what this means...it is u and u are wringing out parts of urself, on way to a new self, that u will be.
Must say, ur path is very fast paced, u are getting pretty rapidly to the real u.
The outer covers to ur core are being discarded and how!
Must say u are lucky.

Ra? What do u say to that?

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posted July 02, 2002 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Seeker -

You are right! I did think it had something to do with my path and with peeling off old layers. It just seemed a harsh way to go about it. Do you think it's because of the acceleration?

I'm not sure what the other half of the answer is. Perhaps it will come in another dream?!

Thanks!

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posted July 02, 2002 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Seeker, you are right! We must read the same books!

I wrote basically the same thing, only you did it in a quarter of the space!

Here is what I have: These women represent an aspect of self. They are working, toiling, and there is a feeling of drudgery. A factory is a place of creation, of the processes involved in creating something. This factory is "creating" clean clothing - the hard way, the old way. The clothing symbolizes your "collective persona," and therefore the cleansing of them/it. The squeezing out of the excess water suggests that you are ridding self of unwanted, unpure, emotions connected with these personas, or that perhaps you are becoming aware of the unconscious forces that lie behind them, the psychological/emotional impetus powering them.

The nervous woman is you. Do you sense "something" coming? Do you feel that the old you, your old persona, or aspect of self is about to be destroyed? Not necessarily a bad thing!

But you will be put through the wringer.

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Totally the same interpetation!

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posted July 02, 2002 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
"You will be put through the wringer"

Well - it can't be any worse than what I've already experienced. Plus, I suspect at the end of this path is a beautiful rainbow. Bring on the wringer!

Thanks!

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posted July 08, 2002 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hello again Ra and Seeker -

Well, the dreams have been pouring in lately! I will post 3 below - the first one is very long. I have a few frags also, which I will post another day (I forgot to bring that book - I"m onto a new dream notebook already).

The first two happened on the same night:

1 - I woke up early and called my Sag to see if he answered which would mean he was in town. He did! I hung up - got dressed and was then in his lobby - don't remember how I got there. I asked the doorman to call Kim Starkee (I don't know where this name came from) - there were 3 doormen and they were very friendly - they seemed confused that I wanted "Kim Starkee" - I felt like they knew I was there to see the Sag and I tried to leave thru some double glass doors - they waived me back and said they would try someone else for me - I kept saying no - they rang the Sag and a woman answered - they said she wanted to talk to me - she was very nice and I knew she had told the Sag he should tell me about her and tell me that it's over between them -I don't know her name - in the dream she is his wife (in real life he is not married nor living with anyone)- we talked a bit and I kept my back to the doormen - then, I noticed the Sag up on this landing - I had to look under a staircase to see him - he seemed happy to see me and I excitedly said "it's you!" and I heard the woman on the phone think "oh - she really loves him"

He was wearing a suit - I was wearing a light blue silky, sleeveless blouse and a peach silky, flowing skirt - he came down to me and I hung up with her - he was very solicitious and I felt very guarded - he seemed very sincere and contrite - we walked out into a connecting garden and continued to walk slowly as he poured out his heart to me (don't remember specifics)

#2 - (same night as #1) - I dreamed I was pregnant and delivering twins! A nurse unplugged the phone before the second child came - and I was taken back to the hospital room in between babies - two women helped move me to a cot to take me back to delivery room to deliver the second

#3 (don't laugh please!) - I dreamed Julie Andrews was a lifesize Tinkerbell - fairy wings and all - and was flying around a room very happily and energetically singing "I Could Have Danced All Night" - I think it was a good night song as she would tap a floor lamp and it would go out - the entire room was in hues of gold, except the lamps which had some red accents - the fairy was a golden/white color

Hurray! My dreams are back!

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posted July 09, 2002 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful,

This dream of yours, the first part that is, is far different from the theme of the other dreams, which stress on urself and the spiritual aspects.
1) You dont trust your guy, though you want to. Are you sure there is no female in his life?
You seem to know that there is, but desperately want things to work out between the two of you. Also you reference to another name, maybe what his higher elf is really called. Seems to be all the more probable, because of the three security guards at the entrance..more like security, guardian angels?
Your mind knows the answers to where the relationship is headed but you want to believe otherwise.
2) You will be responsible for two ideas, i.e 2 aspects of your creative ideas will manifest themselves. After the first, which will happen smoothly, you will face difficulty. You may have problems expressing or in the realm of communication. Not to worry, two people will eventually help you frutify the second idea too.

Hopeful ? Ra?

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posted July 09, 2002 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
seeker - to answer your questions about the Sag - he has told me he wants to focus on someone else. The "old" me would have written him off. The "new" me has been blasted with synchronicities, lexi's and strong intuition telling me to hang in there - he's coming back. He is making an effort to keep the connection. So, I'm trying to trust my intuition and have faith in the Universe!

As for the twin dream - I love your analysis!

Here are the frags I mentioned:

Frag1: tubing down a river with another girl - the water is flowing quickly but isn't frightening - it is a deep blue - it is a bright sunny day

Frag 2: I got a movie ticket but returned it for a better movie

Frag 3: I was "told' it's okay to paint another room

Frag 4: I was "told" to relax and let it look lived in

Frag5: I "heard" the word "spiraling"

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posted July 09, 2002 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful - I do not have much time, but I read on seeker's post that you could use a bit of light, so I want to at least tell you that I think the Sag dream (actually all three dreams) may be shining some upon you.

At first I thought the Sag dream was much as Seeker stated - and it may be. I have thought that perhaps you just were not seeing some truth about the relationship - and this may be so. But as I began to look more closely at the symbology it became apparent that there was much more meaning to the dream than I thought.

I cannot detail it now, but the dream suggests that you are making connections with Self. You are becoming more complete. You are merging the forces that your past dreams have suggested you need to unite - the masculine and the feminine.

There may be "surface" disruptions because of this activity which is taking place, but keep the faith! Know that whatever personal problems surface, either now or in the VERY near future, they are part of the internal activities, part of a cleansing of negative forces - they must surface. How you deal with them will be the "test."

The dreams (not the frags), in my opinion, are VERY positive indicators.

Do you have any feeling as to the sexes of the twins? (it may not matter, just curious)

There is a great deal of Hope!!

PS: You should Lexi Kim Starkee. I see something curious about the name, especially in conjunction with the doormen.

Kim (feminine) Starkee (star-KEY)
"DOOR"-men (masculine)

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posted July 09, 2002 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - thank you for taking the time to post. I know you are swamped right now! It did give me hope. I feel so numb, and my brain keeps saying "walk away." It is the subtle signs that say otherwise. Such as, the lexi you suggested! I look forward to hearing your dream interpretations. I do not know the sex of the twins, but the Sag is a twin.

Kim Starkee and Three Doormen in Lobby

THIS DREAM HAS HIDDEN MEANIN'
A HARD ROAD IS AHEAD Of ME
IT IS ONE I NEED TO TAKE
IT IS A TEST TO DETERMINE IF I
HAVE LEARNED fROM OLD MISTAKE-S
AM I TO WAIT fOR HIM? AM I ABLE TO HEAR
THE HIDDEN MEANIN'? YES!

THIS MAN IS ABLE TO HEAL MY DARK KARMA
AT THIS MOMENT, I NEED TO LET HIM MAKE
THIS MISTAKE - I NEED TO LET HIM BE BY
THIS SHADOw SO HE LEARNS
HE DOESN'T MARRIE HER; HE IS DESTINED
TO MARRIE ME - IT IS SO ORDAINED

TIME IS THE KEY; I NEED TO WAIT
AS SOON AS HE SEES HER LIES, HE IS MINE
HER LIES LOOSEN HER HOLD ON HIM
HE IS TOO SMART NOT TO SEE REALITY.
THEN, HE AND I HEAL IN THE OTHER

HE IS MY HORNED ONE
HE HAS BEEN SENT TO ME fOR A REASON
I AM NOT TO BE DENIED TO STAND BESIDE
THIS MAN AT THE ALTAR
DESTINY IS AT HOME HERE

I DREAM Of HIM SO THAT I HOLD ON -
HE STANDS BY MY SIDE IN DREAMS TO
TALK TO ME - TO HOLD MY HANDS - TO
ASK ME TO WAIT fOR HIM.
I AM NOT MEANT TO LOSE HIM

I NEED TO LISTEN TO MY INNER MIND -
THERE I'M NOT MISLED - THINgS ARE
NOT AS THEY SEEM IN MY HEAD - HE
IS NOT TO STAY AT THE SHADOw-S SIDE

I NEED TO LET RA AND SEEKER AID ME!
THEY HEAR MY DREAMS TALK -
THEY SEE REALITY IN MY DREAMS
MY DREAMS AID ME IN RAISIN' THE MISTS -
I RAISE THE MISTS TO SEEK MY DESTINY

I NEED TO MEDITATE AND LISTEN TO
MY HEART THIS TIME - AND NOT MY HEAD -
THIS MAN IS THE ONE fOR ME - AT LAST!
HE IS LIKE A STAR IN THE NITE SKY SHININ'
ON ME - HE SOON SENDS ME STARLITE AND MOONLITE

I NEED TO SEND HIM LITE TODAY TO AID HIM SO
THAT HE SEE'S THE LITE
I NEED TO TALK TO HIM AND STAND BY HIM -
I NEED TO STAY NEAR HIM - HE NEEDS TO SEE ME NEARBY

YES, IT IS HARD. YES, IT IS RITE. LAST
TIME, IN ANOTHER ERA, I RAN! THIS TIME,
I AM TO WAIT. I NEED TO BE THERE fOR HIM AS
HIS RELATIONSHIp ENDS - AND IT IS ORDAINED
THAT IT END.
HE'L-L LOOK fOR ME THEN -
HE AND I ARE THEN ONE

IT IS SO AND SO BE IT!

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posted July 09, 2002 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Man, that was a quick Lexi, Hopeful!

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posted July 10, 2002 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
A rather lengthy response was crashed!

@#$! &^!!

I will try again some other time.

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posted July 10, 2002 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - I guess I wasn't ready to "hear" it yet.

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posted July 10, 2002 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, Ra. I've had that happen to me before. I type very slowly, too. *sigh*

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posted July 11, 2002 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, you just don't know how much I feel your pain with this one. It really brings back bad memories. But I must say that every time it happened, I did do an even better job by waiting and typing out a new reply later. And I slowly learned good anger management from the ordeals! I totally understand where you're coming from.

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posted July 11, 2002 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Randall! No big deal.

Hopeful, that is quite a lexi!!

I will try this dream again (keeping fingers crossed).

1) This dream reflects your wishes for more intimate contact with the Sag. It is interesting that you are in the lobby to call the Sag, but ask for a woman (I assume), and indeed end up speaking to a woman. To me, this suggests a need for you to communicate better with your feminine aspects - or that this is happening - in order to successfully reach the Sag. I say this because of the doormen.

There are 3. 3 is typically a masculine number in dream symbology, and can indicate the resolution of the duality of 1 and 2. Therefore, it is a number of completion in this respect, and could indicate, in your case, a successful union of your masculine aspects, which your past dreams have pointed to. And it is no coincidence that they are "door"men, and helpful! This is very good! "They" assist you in opening the "door" of communication with yourself and the Sag. Masculine aspect (doormen) communicating with feminine aspect (woman on phone).

There is also a possibility that 3 could represent a time-frame - 3 days, weeks, months? Just a thought.

There is also the possibility that the woman represents the feminine aspects of the Sag, and a need for that connection to happen. And of course the woman could also represent "the other woman" and may give you some insight in that direction.

The name is curious - Kim Starkee, especially with the doormen in the scene. Star(KEY) - DOORmen. Interestingly, a key is symbolically masculine and a door symbolically feminine - but in the dream, "key" is feminine (Kim), and "door" is masculine (men). Just a curious mix of opposites/dualities in combination.

The clothing seems appropriate enough. He seems well "suited", and you are wearing the color of the intuition - light blue. Not certain about the peach, but reminds me of femininity and fertility.

Walking into the "connecting" garden (this dream is all about connections) is a Hopeful sign. This is a place of growth, fertility, beauty, potential.

There is no doubt that much of this could be purely a wishful, subconscious projection/fantasy, but I feel it is more of a message of possibilities.

2) And this dream in the same night? Very interesting and so appropriate! Do you feel that the twins could indicate the Sag? If so, it is possible that the twins represent the two phases of your relationship with the Sag. The first "delivery"/relationship is "birthed." Then a disconnection (unplugged phone) - a break up. Back to the hospital room - a period of rest/healing. The two women could symbolize the balancing (2) of the feminine forces. It is this achieved balance that will take you "back to the delivery room to deliver the second" - the second phase of your relationship with the Sag - yet to come.

3) Not sure what to make of this one! I would say that, in general, the symbols suggest enlightened/divine energy (gold/golden/white/fairy/flying). Perhaps it is suggesting that these energies are at work, maybe when you sleep. But I get an astral feeling with this "dream." To me, it seems like this may be a partial dream/OBE, where subconscious symbols are being placed upon energies experienced while in the astral realm. What do you feel about that? Whatever the case, the energy of the "dream" is very good!

You description that " the entire room was in hues of gold" reminds me of an experience. I was lying in bed when I suddenly became aware that I was awake. I was just lying there, not moving, looking at the room. I then thought how peculiar the lighting in the room was, and wondered if there was a solar eclipse under way (I sleep during the day). It was that sort of eerie, glowing, twilight, half-light. Then I realized that everything was just sort of golden-hued - different "shades" or intensities of a peculiar golden glowing. Then I realized that I could see in all directions at once, including the pillow behind my head, without moving my head or eyes! Then I realized that my eyes were closed! I could feel myself seeing through my eyelids - a very difficult sensation to describe adequately! I then realized that my consciousness was focussed in my astral body - even though I was still occupying the same space as the physical body. I tried to separate spatially from the physical body, but could not. So I refocussed my attention on the most peculiar feeling of omnidirectional sight - and that beautiful golden glow.

The next thing I knew, I blacked out and then re-awakened - in the physical. I opened my eyelids, very aware of the feeling of them opening, and looked around at my brightly lit, very normal room.

Anyway ... what do you feel about those dreams?

Oh, the fragments -

1) Awareness (bright sunny day) of unconscious/emotional/life forces/"currents" (deep blue, flowing river). Note that you are flowing with, and not against it.

2) Another reference to the Sag relatioship? Similar to the "twin birthing" dream.

3) Also about the Sag? Remember the other painting dream? It is okay to continue with your life. Perhaps indicating the continuation of changing (paint) before things happen.

4) Relax - continue with life.

5) You are spiraling! Does it not feel so?!

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OMG!

I almost lost it again! It would not send! For some reason it went through when I disabled the smilies on a hunch.

Randall, I kept getting an "internal server error" message.

Anyway, all is well!

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posted July 11, 2002 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra! You are amazing!

I am still struggling today, but I think I have accepted that the Sag has a lesson he needs to learn and he needs to break from this shadow (the other woman) that has been lurking and hanging over our relationship the whole time. My sense from my lexi's is that I am supposed to help him by sending him white light during meditation and visions, and by speaking to his soul in my dreams, and lastly by staying loosely connected in the "real" world as a friend.

So, the dreams are "key." The first one, I think his soul - his Higher Self - knows that he and I are meant to be, but knows that he needs to work through some issues with the shadow. I know he is drawn to my mind (which is more masculine), and I find it interesting that by expanding my feminine intuitive side I am reaching a balance - which seems to be drawing him nearer.

I think the woman in the dream is the other woman. I just found out this week they are essentially living together - just in two separate places (was the dream a premonition perhaps?). Is it possible her soul was talking to mine? This is someone who deceived him last year (she told him she was divorced but she was in fact still quite married).

The number 3 could be 3 months. Both my lexi's and my Akashic Reader indicate that the SAg's relationship should end and he and I would be together within 3 months (by end of summer).

I love that you see connections in the dream. The last part where we were walking in the garden had a bit of an astral feel.

As for the "twin" dream, I think your interpretation complements Seeker's and they both speak to me! Seeker talked about manifesting, and I have been visioning to manifest a relationship. The two manifestations are probably the two phases of the relationship - the one that occured and has been interrupted (WHICH IS SO NOT FAIR - okay, sorry - had to let out that Aries angst ) and the second is the part of the relationship that is yet to come. That does give me HOPE!

As for the third dream, after what you wrote about it, I think it did have an astral feel. It was very "dreamy" and soothing - light and happy - my heart was flying as though everything had come together.

I will try and stay "hopeful" and send the Sag intuitive messages. It is difficult to be reduced to a "friend," and the old me would have defensively turned tail and ran - which according to my lexi I did before! So, I am going to try and listen to my intuitive side. He clearly is interested in staying in touch. And after all, even an Aries can hold on for 2 -3 months, don't you think? God/dess help me!

As for the frags, I like that I am flowing "with" the current. I didn't notice that meant anything until you mentioned it. And yes, I am definitely spiraling and it is wonderful.

I assume that if the Uni-verse decides that I am to change direction, it will let me know?

Ra - I am so curious - whatever do you do for a living? You really are incredible with these dreams. Whatever you've done before, you are most definitely making up for it now! That's one reason I think I am drawn to the lexis - it is a way for me to give back a portion of the good I receive.

love, peace and light -

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posted July 11, 2002 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, super long Posts usually won't go through.

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posted July 12, 2002 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Feeling more "Hopeful" today - I must be feeling all of the light sent my way!

I remembered a frag from last night:

there was a white/pale yello butterfly fluttering over my bed while I slept.

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Ah, Hopeful, that is a good symbol/sign!

The butterfly represents something like lightness, freedom, and of course - transformation. White and yellow are sure indications that this is a change of good, of enlightenment, of purity, of divinity, and all that is white and yellow!

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I have been dreaming a lot but have not been able to hold onto my dreams lately. Here is one from two nights ago. Surprise, surprise . . .it starts in a house!

I'm in a house with many rooms. It is rather dark inside and there are people milling about like at a party. I followed a man into one room, and there was a nightstand/endtable which had a small fountain inside the top drawer. We pulled it open to look at it. It wouldn't turn off.

There were different families staying in the house. I walked into one bedroom which belonged to a teenage girl - she was in there (it may have been me). This room was bright - set in light blue tones except that the comforter was lilac and purple. The closets were absolutely stuffed with clothes, and her parents were very loving and were well to do. I could tell she was very fortunate. I also thought it a bit odd there were so many clothes since they weren't staying very long.

BAck into the house and I asked a different man to come into the fountain room with me. I don't remember much about these men. When we opened the drawer to the nightstand/endtable, the fountain was working. When I reached in to touch it, I pulled out a set of keys.

Next, I was in the front seat of a car and somehow the keys flipped to the back seat. I had to bend over the front seat to reach the keys, and there was a woman in the back seat - middle aged - calmly watching me but she didn't offer to help. I was hanging upside down but managed to reach the keys, which instantly flipped again as soon as I touched them and then I was outside and they were lying on the ground, except they were no longer keys.

Now, it was a gold necklace, and I started to walk toward it when I noticed a hippie type man running to grab the necklace to steal it. I yelled "hey, that's mine!" He looked at me but didn't stop. As soon as he stooped to pick it up, I said "God won't forgive you." Then, my alarm clock woke me up so I don't know whether he kept the necklace or I got it back.

Thoughts? Questions?

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Interesting dream. I hope you can wait a couple of days! It may take until then for me to look at this one closely. The gist of it concerns your unconscious (bedroom/night stand drawer/fountain) and the material you are finding there ("keys"). It also reflects your anxiety about what to do with the "keys" you have, they are precious/valuable to you (gold necklace) and you fear "loosing" them.

I will get back to this as soon as I can!

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