posted July 30, 2002 11:10 AM         

I don't know if this has any relevance to this dream, but before I went to sleep last night, I asked my Higher Self for some communication with the Sag as I haven't heard from him in a while. This dream I am posting is the one I remember from last night. I know it has some anxiety elements, but I'm not sure how the other parts relate or whether it relates to the Sag. Curious what you think:

I am in my parent's livingroom with my brother (the one I have an up and down relationship with). He is watching TV, and I am anxious because I want him to drive with me to my class. It is a college class, but it is at my high school. He is not in a hurry, and he is talking about loading some dirt into my car before we leave. I am anxious because I don't like being late. He walks into the kitchen, and I walk out to the drive and get in my car thinking I can pick him up closer to the school; I'm annoyed that he's watching TV and is taking his time. The car is a big, heavy 4-door sedan. It's a sunny day. I actually drive to the school and wait, but I realize he isn't coming. I get all green lights and arrows on the way back home. I stop at this strip shopping mall thinking he might be waiting there - but he isn't - so I drive home. I see him pacing in front of the house, and he has piled sod on the sidewalk which he is going to put in my car. At that point, I don't think I want to go to class because I know I will be about 45 minutes late. He thinks I should still go - that it's not a big deal.

posted July 30, 2002 12:50 PM         

Let me know what you think.

posted July 31, 2002 10:22 AM         

I do feel like I am changing rapidly. Sometimes, I'm not sure whether someone else has stepped in or I am just remembering. I'm even drawn to wearing brighter colors now (I was always into dark colors). I love it though, but am feeling a bit drained. I think I've been trying so hard to send white light to the Sag, I wore myself out! I'm off for a few days of R and R.

BTW, did you look at the dream just before this one that Ra is working on? That one was more interesting, I thought.

Randall - is this string getting too long? Let me know if I should start a new one.

Love and Light to you all,

posted July 31, 2002 01:28 PM         

Hopeful, I have begun "work" on it, but have not yet finished. In the second dream, do you think that perhaps your brother could represent someone else? Someone with some similar characteristic? Could he in any way symbolize the Sag? Just asking!

posted August 01, 2002 02:00 AM         

Thank you-it is you who is helping me. I remembered ur words, that u had written in a post earlier, that one day I would be helping you in dream analysis. So I am merely an apparentice, and happy being one.
Hopeful, I may check in on the earlier dream-but if Ra has worked/is working on it, then it will really leave me with nothing to say-he is so right, and I am learning from watching him do all this.
Hopeful, I had a feeling that there were srong issues of disagreement with ur brother. One thing is certain though, u love him a lot due to which you want to change him. He loves you too-in his own way. Dont insist of changing him, he will get irritated and distance himself from you. Each one has their growth pattern, we are no-one to judge who is good and bad.
BTW, your higher s-elf has stared living inside you, that's why the change. You are blessed. Expect a lot more changes in your life.

posted August 03, 2002 06:52 PM         

The house suggests your life situation and the relative unawareness (rather dark) of those who surround you (people milling about). The man (or men) seem to indicate that aspect of self which you need to follow in order to touch the life giving waters (fountain) that lay hidden within your unconscious (nightstand/drawer). This aspect is probably something like assertiveness or aggressiveness (in a good way) or some other forceful action. In other words, maintaining your stamina in your quest for a deeper connection with Self.

I am not sure how the teenage girl fits into this, but she probably does represent you. The bedroom could indicate the subconscious, and both light blue and purple symbolize intuition and spirit. The closets also suggest the unconscious, and the clothing symbolizes the differents facades, perhaps acquired as a teenager, that have their roots in unconscious material. Perhaps this is a suggestion about the origins of certain of your own facades and their innocent beginnings that have led to a sort of cluttering of your adult persona.

Again, a man and the fountain. This time, however, you find the keys within it. Because the teenage girl scene is squeezed between the fountain scenes, I suspect there is a hint about what these keys represent. They are keys for unlocking some sort of unconscious material, material that has to do with your various facades, facades that you are becoming aware of and are in the process of shedding/releasing. You will find help in doing this from your intuition, and guided by spiritual forces. You may be able to gain some insight by looking at your teenage self - or maybe not!

Now, the car scene. The symbology of this scene is a sort of repitition of the previous house scenes. The car is you - your "vehicle." The front seat is conscious awareness - the back seat is the unconscious. You have to reach into your unconscious (backseat) with some effort to get the "keys", the same as following a man (effort) to the nightstand drawer (unconscious) and fountain for the keys. The middle-aged woman is probably your unconscious self - silently watching and guiding you (same as light blue and purple). Each time you touch the keys, they lead you elsewhere. They are guiding you from restriction to freedom (outside). There is also the suggestion that perhaps you need rest - to move outside of self - and this could be "key" to discovering the true value of what it is you pursue (gold necklace).

The gold necklace is the treasure that you have found/freed/unlocked by reaching into (and persisting) the realms of the unconscious for the "keys". Much symbolism can be found attatched to it. It is valuable, precious, beautiful, desired, and perhaps feels extravagant. Gold, alchemically, symbolizes the final stage of transformation (just like the white/yellow butterfly from a previous dream). It is enlightenment, the Sun, the divine, eternity, spirit.

As a necklace - and thus circular - it is cyclic, eternal, complete, and more personal (circle = self) than gold by itself. Also, there is a connection with neck symbolism and perhaps the throat chakra. The neck can indicate control issues, but this necklace is not on you, so perhaps you have come some distance in "grounding" that controlling impulse. The neck is also between the mind and the body, so perhaps by releasing the control, you have gained it? The throat chakra deals with communication - with truly hearing and seeing and knowing. It is also a chakra with a great influence over creativity.

As you can see, there is much that could be symbolized by the gold necklace, so you will have to go with what feels right. And the fact that it may be stolen from you suggests that you may feel unworthy of the very gifts you seek to find. Or perhaps you will feel that you are inadequate to wield these forces. A natural reaction that indeed says something about your actual worthiness.

There are also certain sexual connotations to many of the symbols which could be reflecting your current conditions. But I really do not like to get Freudian.

What do you think?

posted August 06, 2002 12:07 PM         

Ra - I like your dream interp (as always!). In addition to a short vacation from work, I also took a vacation from the spiritual side and from thinking about the Sag and trying to help him. Ironically, I was still getting synchronicities (strong ones!) about the Sag. I realized while I was away and even more strongly after reading your dream interp, that I am overwhelmed and in awe by my spiritual awareness which has come upon me so rapidly. I think the dreams we have been looking at are trying to subtley guide me and keep me on track. Yes? As for the necklace, instead of laying on the ground in a circle, it was more bunched up. Does that change anything? Also, I am getting a physical soon as the glands in my throat have been swollen on and off for a couple of months - I'm wondering if that's related to the throat chakra and communication.

I have found myself lately shifting between moving forward spiritually and grasping backwards to the safety and security of how things used to be. Still, as I said, I do want to go forward - but wisely.

I'll think more about my teen years. I was very quiet, but always very determined - very book smart - good at reading people. I always felt "different" from everyone else - in fact, I still do in some sense! But now I also see how we are all connected.

I had a really interesting dream last night but couldn't hold onto it - something about a spaceship!

posted August 07, 2002 01:25 PM         

First, the necklace - being bunched up does not change the meaning, except that it could indicate "bunched up" energies, or energy blockage in that area. I am most certain that your actual ailment is connected. May I recommend Elohim in this matter? Could help!

Now, your "brother" dream. Seeker is so right. Fantastic, Seeker!

I also feel that there is a reason for having this dream at this time.

Basically, the dream indicates that your brother is making choices (kitchen/strip mall) that you probably consider to be selfish or wasteful, while you are doing what you feel NEEDS to be done and not necessarily what you WANT to do (school/college/driving).

You are progressing (college class in high school) and "he is not in a hurry."

You are ready to go, do not want to be late, and he is holding you up, delaying your progress.

He has you "driving in circles" - but this is YOUR decision - you could have simply left him at home. The message here - he is not on the same path as you, or at least not on the same part of it, or he is perceiving it differently than you. But this should not necessarily delay you.

What is with the dirt? It could symbolize a number of things, so you will have to decide what fits. It could mean fertility/creativity/grounding. It could mean gossip, guilt, burden, ... or anything else associated with "dirt" or "dirty." Whatever it is, it hints at some influencial energy that weighs upon the relationship - perhaps even the root cause of the separative tendencies.

So the question is, who or what does your brother represent? The obvious answer is himself, which is no doubt very true, but along with that, could there not also be a message about certain similarities between the relationship with your brother and some other situation/association?

Is there some other relationship or situation in which you feel you are waiting upon another, someone you love (like your brother) yet someone that can also drive you crazy at times (like your brother)?

Do you feel like you are "driving in circles," looking/waiting for someone/something?

Is there someone/something that you wish would "take the same class" as you? Is someone/something not exactly telling you no (not getting in car - without refusing - instead, "delay tactics")?

Do not get me wrong, I do feel that the basis of the dream is drawn from your relationship with your brother - and has everything to do with it. But I also feel that your subconscious is drawing a parallel between that relationship and another, and the parallel seems to have more to do with the relationship dynamics rather than with personality characteristics.

With your brother you have certain karmic ties - probably both personally and group/family. So it is true that as one advances, so does the other/s, and it is natural to feel as if you must "wait" on another in order to continue - but this is true only to an extent and is limited only by perception/perspective.

It could be that you and your brother "began" in the same "group", but different paths have been taken. In this respect, the dream is simply saying what your brother thinks - "that it's not a big deal," that you should not let anything hold you back - you do not HAVE to be late, you are choosing to.

But could this message apply to other situations in your life as well? I think so.

posted August 07, 2002 03:08 PM         

You've given me a lot to think about.

posted August 12, 2002 06:15 PM         

First dream: I am in a delivery room and I am giving birth. I am uncomfortable but not in much pain. The father is there, but I don't know him - the room is full of medical personnel - I just see a bright light over my head - when they tell me to push, a gush of water flows between my legs and I deliver a baby girl. She is beautiful! Next, I'm in my hospital room, and they come to take her away as, sadly, she has died in my arms. My husband tells me that this was her destiny and we are to learn from it. My brother (the one I DO like) is there and he comes to take her away. She is wrapped in a blue towel and her face is exposed - it looks like she is sleeping. I am sad, but I understand.

Next scene, we flip to the middle of some traffic. I am standing looking under the hood of a car with this guy I went to school with - who is very like my brother. My husband and others are inside the car. Another car filled with 5 men (3 in front) gets too close to us and scrapes my leg - I yell at them but they don't stop - I try to get their license no.

Second dream: I am asleep at my parents house and a neighbor with his 5 sons is trying to break in. Our female neighbor on the other side - who is my age - is on the phone with me - I think I called her - and she calls the police - the police arrive and the men say they weren't going to do anything - my less agreeable brother is there and i think he will be upset because they sent some female police (two were female; 1 was male) - I think he should look for a bride in a sewing store as he scowls at women not in "traditional" roles. The police check things out and leave.

posted August 13, 2002 01:34 PM         

The next scene is quite different, but there seems to be a thread of connection to the first, and indeed the husband does appear in both.

Being in the middle of traffic suggests stress, congestion, restriction, standing still/stuck, etc. that you are feeling in some life situation. It is suggested that some aspect of your life is in need of repair, and perhaps the energy that you associate with the guy and your brother could help in the mending. The occupants of the car offer the suggestion that this situation/path is a family/life path that perhaps is yet to come - repairs being needed first.

The car with five men, peculiar. In general, I feel that it means you will be (or have been/are) "side-swiped" by relationships in a way that strikes at your very foundations (leg). But there seems to be something else in the numbers. I am not certain of the meaning, but I will give you my first impressions.

The five represent individual relationships - three have occurred and two have yet to manifest. The Sag is either the third of the three or the first of the two. How many serious relationships have you had? (you do not have to answer that! )

Another possibility could be temporal. Five years/months/weeks - three which have passed and two yet to go.

Then again, the numbers could symbolize energies/patterns (ie numerology) Are you being "side-swiped" by the energy of five or three, perhaps in need of two? Could be.

Now, take this with a HUGE grain of salt because it is merely a vague impression, but I am feeling there is someone else for you out there. Well, not exactly. The someone else could be the Sag, but the relationship will be a different one. Whether or not the "someone" is the Sag or actually someone else entirely, the key is in the release of the Sag relationship. I feel that when you do finally and completely "release" the Sag, you will have learned/accomplished something invaluable which will lead you to the one for whom you have been searching - be it the Sag or another.

I will work on #2 tomorrow.

What do you think?

posted August 13, 2002 02:07 PM         

Separation of relationship makes sense. This one may be less about the Sag and more about a Scorpio. Please don't think me the typical frivolous Aries hopping from relationship to relationship! I met the Sag last Thanksgiving the same week I was reacquainted with the Scorpio. Scorpio is divorced with jt custody - and he is clearly still running scared which I only realized in the last couple of months. I rarely see him and the relationship is not progressing - at the end of last week, during the day before the evening of this dream, I decided if the Scorpio can't make time for me in the next week I'm wiping him from the slate! However, at the same time, I also realized I need to "let go" of the Sag in the sense he has a lesson to learn and won't come back to me until and unless he is whole and healed. I am giving him until late Sept/early Oct. I do feel fairly calm as I've realized I cannot learn this lesson for him. If he learns the lesson, then I suspect our relationship will be different.

Which brings me to the 5. There have been 2 other men I thought I could marry - the Sag is the 3rd. But the timing works also - when I first found out he was going to try and work things out with the other woman, that was about 3 months ago, and I'm giving him 2 more to finish and come back.

The towel was medium blue.

I am definitely trying to work on relationships - trying to be more patient and less reactive. I have definitely been side-swiped in the past and the Sag did it again this year. And recently, I do feel like my relationship status is at a standstill.

I have been asking my Higher S-Elf for guidance, but I feel like I'm only getting affirmations of what is happening. What do you think?

posted August 14, 2002 01:25 PM         

Dream #2 seems to be a reflection of your being as well.

This dream seems to indicate an awakening, from or to, old patterns (asleep at parent's house). The neighbor suggests the general confliction - men/man - and his five sons suggest a pattern (son=pattern of father) to which you are awakening. It feels to me that there is something more to the "five", especially considering the previous dream. Do any of those possible explantions seem to fit this dream?

You are aware that this pattern/energy needs to be controlled and put into order (police). It is interesting that someone called the police for you. Is this a hint about the guidance you are looking for? It could be. What do you feel about that?

Your brother seems to symbolize the personal conflict you have, at least subconsciously, the conflict between male and female aspects/forces.

Over all, this dream seems to reflect the old relationship stresses that you have been dealing with, your awareness of them, and your efforts at controlling them, possibly including your calls for higher help and a hint of a response, perhaps.

How does this strike you? What do you FEEL (not what you think) is right?

posted August 15, 2002 10:24 AM         

Well, the Sag surfaced last night, and his other relationship has ended! So, with that in mind, I read over your last post.

I think the 5 is linked to 5 months - the duration from when I found out about that relationship to when it ends and he and I get together or perhaps the length of that relationship.

I went to dinner with the Sag last night, and I was thinking about the part about the dream re police/control. I do think it was guidance as the "old" me would have expressed my interest too much and would have frightened this very wounded man. He is really hurting right now, and I need to control my feelings so I can be his friend.

In addition to the dreams, I believe my call for help has been answered by some friendships I've made this year with more enlightened individuals, with the lexies and with the dream interpretations.

I'm not sure where to go next with the Sag and will ask again for guidance, so the next dream will be anxiously awaited by me!

I was sad for the Sag because he was hurting, but I was excited to see happening everything my intuitive Higher s-Elf had told me would occur (mostly via the lexies).

posted August 19, 2002 10:50 AM         

I hope so too!!! I have not heard from the Sag since we had dinner last week, but he is in pain right now. I feel he will reach for me as his pain ebbs. I'm still meditating, but my dreams have been elusive the last week or so. Here is a frag I remembered which I think is good?

I saw the sun rising behind some tall, brown mountains. The sun rose all the way in the sky and it was a bright, warm day.

posted August 19, 2002 11:08 AM         

Your energy, it feels ... smoother? Does that make sense?

posted August 26, 2002 01:28 PM         

1. I was at an Irishfest and had to pay $12 twice. Everyone else at our table - about 8 people, but I believe the others were mostly men - they had ordered and paid at a booth. I ordered and paid a guy walking around. THis other guy comes up to me later and wants $12. I tell him I already paid. He said he would check and come back. He came back and wanted the money - one of my friends offered to pay. I told the collection guy I made plenty of money and didn't need to stiff him, but I wasn't going to pay him because I already paid!

2. I'm sleeping on my bed in my bedroom, but it is pulled close to the french doors that look out on several decks. Neighbors are outside on their balconies - one couple is singing (can't remember song) - a group just outside my french doors are watching me sleeping, they are all men and 1 woman - I look up and realize one guy is inside my doors - I make him leave. I go outside to lock the outside door but the woman has to help me as it is hard to lock - I go back in and close the blinds. Now, I'm in the livingroom. I am looking at the decor which I have carefully selected and I'm wondering if the Sag will like it.

3. I'm in an underground tunnel, which is has medium lighting, with other people - there is a guy with me - the tunnel walls are a pale yellow color and the paint is cracked from the water - the tunnel is filling with water, and I look around for something I can use to try and save this one man who was already under the water with only his hand visible - someone else said to leave him as he was a bad man - I saw his hand sink below the surface and knew he was dead, and I felt bad but knew I couldn't help him. Then, as the water carried me along I reached out to save a little boy - I was determined to hold on to him and I did - at the end of the tunnel, we came up into a dimly lit open area where there were several wet people and luggage - we found the boys family and they were very grateful to me - I walked outside into the sunshine and realized I had come up under a large sports arena. I was looking for the guy I was originally with - and he called out to me from an upper balcony of the building, except it wasn't the same guy, it was my friend's love interest - He came down and I hugged him, and there was a woman at his side who was staring daggers at me - I didn't know her - then, a female friend of mine was with me - we all walked to the parking lot together, and I asked him if he knew my friend (the one who liked him) and he said yes and talked about how great she was. We parted in the lot - which was dim -and got into our separate cars. My friend and I got into a porsche, which was apparently mine, but she insisted on driving.

I have some ideas about dream 2, but the others have me baffled. Questions? Thoughts?

posted August 27, 2002 12:24 PM         

1. This dream seems to indicate a cycle (12) and your reluctance to repeat it. You are confident in your own personal energy (money), or your position. You are aware of the energy you have put into this cycle (whatever it is), you are aware of the cycle itself, and you refuse to put more energy into a repetition of same.

2. This dream suggests that unconscious material (people outside at night) is coming into the subconscious (sleeping/bedroom) area of awareness (door). This unconscious or outside force is represented by the guy inside. He could represent an actual person, an unconscious "force" of some kind, or a masculine aspect of self. I tend to think he is a negative masculine aspect, an aspect you have come to recognize as unwanted.

It seems that you are using your feminine aspects - i.e. intuition, feeling, creativity, receptivity - to keep this masculine aspect at bay. Doing this prepares you for more positive relations (hopefully with the Sag!).

Number three is going to take some more time. As these dreams occurred in the same night, I am also looking for a connection between them, a thread that ties them together. I have an idea that there is a progression of some kind, but it has not come together yet.