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Hopeful
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posted August 27, 2002 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra -

1. This makes a lot of sense to me. I am learning not to repeat cycles, and in fact just in the last few days have made an effort to make my feelings known on that topic.

2. FYI, the people outside were in the sunlight, but inside it was dim.

I love the part about more positive relations - yes please!!

3. I remembered the tunnel was round, but the dim area at the end where everyone was wet and exhauted was a large square room.

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posted August 28, 2002 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
The correction you gave for #2 actually makes more sense, and is in better keeping with the progressive nature of these dreams.

Instead of representing an unconscious force or negative aspect, he represents the negative masculine aspect/cycle that you ARE aware of. This fits both other dreams much more nicely.

3. This dream is saying something about death and rebirth. Underground is the unconscious, or death. A tunnel connects one side to the other - the unconscious to the conscious, in this case. It is a passage to a new awareness. The pale yellow walls suggest near-awareness. The rising, flowing water suggests life force, or unconscious forces.

The drowning man is probably an aspect of self, or could also symbolize some past relationship or situation. Someone says he is/was a bad man, indicating that perhaps he symbolizes the negative masculine aspect that has "died." (and has been mentioned before, many times!)

The man dies, and you save a little boy. Death and rebirth (especially considering the "tunnel of water" symbology). The little boy is the new masculine aspect replacing the old. And he is "re-united" with his "family", the family of aspects that constitute self. The wet people and luggage suggest those who have survived the currents of the unconscious forces, of emotions, of the force of life itself which carries them forward. They are you.

Emerging into this square room suggests a new foundation stone, a new psychological process, new support.

Then from the tunnel into the light, the light of awareness. Actually, it seems to be a movement from awareness, or partial awareness (pale yellow/dimly lit), into an increased state of awareness. Prepared with a greater awareness, you find yourself on the "playing field", ready to play the "game" (sports arena), which has something to do with this fencing guy, the friend's love interest.

The rest of the dream, I am not sure (if ever I am!) - I get a mixed message. It seems to me that your first order of business at this point is to assist your friend. And there is something about her situation that relates to yours - perhaps your experience in having a love interest who has another love interest will benefit your ability to help her see more clearly. It almost seems as if you are doing some preliminary work, taking a deposition from your friend's love interest, in a way. But I also get the feeling of karmic forces being played out between all of the involved "characters."

What do you think?

So there is a progression to these dreams:

1. Recognition of some personal cycle.
2. Negation of negative pattern/aspect/cycle by use of intuition/creative forces.
3. Death of the pattern/aspect, re-birth into new awareness, and activity based upon that which has been gained.

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posted August 28, 2002 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - your interpretation set off bells!! I definitely "feel" more balanced these days, so the idea of the old, negative masculine part of my self being reborn into a self balanced with feminine and masculine just makes my heart sing! I have been struggling with relationships for years due to behavior required at work v. behavior required in relationships - so I am happy to have made some real progress this year. The dreams and your interpretations have helped me be more aware of these issues and guided me to work on them. Thank you!

As for the friend, I do feel we are on parallel path of sorts. We support each other and look for the positives where your average person would suggest walking away from certain situations. So, it's interesting to me that it has emerged in my dreams.

I appreciate your wise counsel -

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posted September 09, 2002 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Okay Ra - here are two more for you when you have time:

1. I'm at an outside bar with my brother (the one I have trouble with), and a couple - which is sometimes my other brother and his wife and sometimes a co-worker and his wife (fyi - both of these couples are steered by very strong women). The co-worker goes for drinks and comes back with 4 - 2 for his wife, 1 for him and 1 for my brother - none for me! My brother orders a bunch of fried food - I think he is ordering so much becaue he knows my other brother will pick up the tab.

I get up and a waitress sits in my sit - I try to order but she doesn't hear me so then I shout - I order a club soda w/ a lime - the waitress takes some of the food which has now been delivered and puts a small amount on my plate, then leaves - I sit but don't eat much - I decide to go for a walk - I walk a couple of blocks and lay down on a grassy corner to sleep - the wife from the group comes to check on me and says it's good I"m sleeping as I probably needed rest

I wake while it's still dark and try to find my way back to the bar - I stop and ask a woman for directions on a busy street - I seem to have a map I didn't know I had, and she looks at it and shows me where to go and that it will take 20 minutes - I'm wearing pajamas, I realize, and think I should change but I don't want to miss a guy who was supposed to join our group, so I start walking - I stop under a viaduct to change and there is a couple making out (then - my alarm clock wakes me up)

#2 - I'm in a large building made up of several reception type halls - they are separated according to color, and I'm in the green area which has bridges connecting two sides - there are mostly women seated in the lower level, and someone asks me if the colors are meant to separate the different rooms and I reply yes - we are asked to play a word game and are given 4 words we need to act out - we line our chairs up, and my row is all women except one guy (I believe again it is the difficult brother) is at the end. The women behind us ask us to move up a bit as they are concerned we will hear their words, so we move our chairs. The women on my left are good sports and want to play, the one on my direct right refuses to look at the words and the others on the right, including the male, are very passe/ambivelent. I feel it is important for me to memorize the words before I pass the list - I remember joching and atalcranta (these words mean nothing to me and I am unable to recall the other two words) - the woman on my right absolutely refuses the list so I pass it past here. I seem to be our team leader. My team ends up being asked to board a bus by the male director of the game. There is a male driver that takes us to a steakhouse.

thoughts?

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posted September 09, 2002 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Many thoughts, but unclear. Why do you think that brother keeps appearing?

I will get back soon!

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posted September 09, 2002 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - I've wondered the same thing about that brother showing up in my dreams. Is it possible that it has something to do with the challenges I am facing? Perhaps he represents the "obstacles" I am encountering on my path, and then I would say it is a positive sign that in the dreams I seem to move past any obstacles/difficulties he presents. That was my initial thought, but I'll let you know if anything else strikes me.

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posted September 09, 2002 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - one other thing about the first dream. By the time I stop to ask the woman for directions, it is daylight and it is very sunny.

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posted September 10, 2002 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Holly     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Hopeful. I never have any problems remembering my dreams. I have actually started writing a book about them. Most of the time they are very desturbing, but that's not the point. My grandmother always taught me to lay in bed and before I drift off to sleep, try and turn the front of my brain off and channel everything to the back. That may sound silly, but when our whole brain is buzzing, we have dreams
that don't mean much. Our thoughts from that past day interfere with the messages we are able to receive in sleep. So, if you want to try it, it may help. It helps me quite a bit.

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posted September 10, 2002 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Holly     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful, I just finished reading one of your messages about the "old soul." Maybe, the peson that you are seeing has lived in all 12 houses. Maybe it's almost the end for him, whereas most of us are still on the third or forth house of our journey. I guess this interpretation depends on your thoughts about reincarnation. That was my thought/

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posted September 10, 2002 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Holly - thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try.

The "old soul" is a Sag, so you may have something with the 12 houses. He does seem fairly enlightened to me...which is part of the draw.

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posted September 13, 2002 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome, Holly! Great thoughts!

Hi, Hopeful!

I think I am going to forego the usual breakdown of the symbols and just tell you what I think, as most of these symbols have appeared before and generally mean the same thing. Of course, all you have to do is say the word, and I will explain anything you wish further.

1) In general, this dream seems to be a reflection of the changes you are undergoing and the consequent relationship you have with those around you. To me, it seems you have outgrown them (if I may phrase it that way) to some extent. I think your "difficult brother" typifies the "level" that you have risen above, and that you must learn to deal with/co-exist/understand this "level" in your everyday relations. You are no longer "eating the same food" or "drinking the same drink" as those around you. In fact, you are differentiating/individualizing to the extent that others do not "hear" what you are saying very well, they do not understand things the way you do.

So you have found it necessay to "walk alone" and find "fertile ground" in order to connect with the subconscious/unconscious (sleep/dark) forces that are motivating you. Rest incubates silence (and silence, rest) and from the silence issues forth direction (map) and awareness (daylight). Having found direction, and finding "change" necessary, you find yourself drawn back into the fray of "ordinary" humanity - to serve it in your own way.

I find it particularly interesting that women are playing important roles in this dream, providing direction and advice. Precisely what we have been expecting, and indeed seeing more of lately!

It also seems you are going to be getting the suggested rest - have a great vacation!

Oh, 20 - The Awakening - you should read that.

2)This dream contains much of the same symbology as the first: reception hall (similar to the bar - a gathering place), green, WOMEN, 4 words (4 drinks), difficult brother, and food/restaurant. As with the first, this dream is about growth and your "position" relative to others - a bit "ahead" (leader). This time, however, I feel that there is more information contained within the words you memorized - or at least the two you remember. I think your subconscious is asking you to "act the words out" - to Lexigram them. Apart or together? That is your call.

Please let me know what you come up with!

Let me know if you need more explanation or if you have questions!


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posted September 13, 2002 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - I hope you realize how helpful your interpretations are to me. Your thoughts lend credence to my own. Thank you! Yes - that all fits well, and perhaps I will try to lexi the words together - probably when I return.

I'm so glad you were able to post before I had to leave today! Another synchronicity perhaps?

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posted September 25, 2002 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Ra -

I checked on amazon. Is that "The Awakening" by Chopin?

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posted October 02, 2002 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Ra - I thought maybe my query got lost in the shuffle. I want to make sure I buy the right book!

Also, did your friend browncow read his lexi? That one POURED out!

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posted October 03, 2002 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Hopeful!

I apologize for not being clear, I did not mean a book, I meant Linda's definition for the number 20.

And I received your e-mail about the trip. Fantastic! There is something still wrong with my computer, so I dare not e-mail anyone a possible virus.

I will tell you an impression I get. In one sense, I can feel the balance that you are achieveing, and it is a totally GREAT thing! In another sense, however, I feel a disturbance. It is as if you are happy, but you are not. There is a feeling of ... emptiness? ... in some way? Lonliness, perhaps? Difficult to express, but I am familiar with the feeling - it is part of the experience of the path you are walking, or so it feels like to me.

Yes and no?

Walk in Peace, Hopeful.

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posted October 03, 2002 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Ra - good to hear from you. I was having a virus problem also, but it seems to be resolved.

You are accurate in your perceptions. I am definitely more balanced, but I have been feeling alone - in part because of the events from the trip - in part because of the Sag's slowwwwww progress. I did hear from him, but still no movement yet.

Also, I think part of the emptiness/aloneness comes from what you picked up on in one of my last dreams - being more aware, which means having to find patience and ways to deal with those in my life who are not aware. It is difficult, but I also believe that is part of the path.

I have returned from my trip to find myself feeling like I don't belong here...in this job...in this city. I will sit tight for now, but I feel...different.

I'll read 20.

Thanks!

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posted October 03, 2002 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
You are ... different.

The awareness and the aloneness come hand-in-hand. I believe you are on a similar path as I, and I will tell you that regardless of whom you are with - relationship-wise - the aloneness will remain to some degree. This is different from loneliness. There is power in it. I feel you are beginning to know what I mean.

Yes, by all means, sit tight! The rewards will astound you.

Much love to you, Hopeful. You are not alone in your aloneness.

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posted October 11, 2002 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - I haven't been retaining too much of my dreams lately, but the men seem to be back in again! I think I have been too tired and will need to start focusing on my dream journal. Anyway, here is the lexi of those strange words that appeared in one dream: JOCHING AND ATALCRANTA (I added an "e" and an "m" since the druids were urging me to put them in and I couldn't remember the third word from the dream)...

IN A DREAM, I CAN HOLD THE
HORNED ONE - THE LAD - HE
MADE AN OATH TO ME LONG, LONG
AGO IN ANOTHER ERA - ANOTHER
TIME - THE DREAM CAN BECOME
THE REAL THING - IT IS ONLIE
A MATTER Of TIME

I CAN LET GO AND LET GOD -
THE ANGELs HAVE HEARD ME -
I AM NOT ALONE IN THE END -
THE LAD COMEs HOME TO ME -
THE OATH Is A CORD THA-T TIES
HE AND I

I NE-ED TO LET GO - I HAVE
DONE AL-L I CAN DO - I MADE
DIRECT CONTACT wITH THE LAD's
HEART - IT HEALs, AND THEN
HE Is MINE

HE'L-L REACH fOR MI HAND - I
CRADLE HIs HAND IN MINE - NO
MORE TEARs

I HOLD ON THO I LET GO - I
LET HIM REACH fOR MI LITE - I
LET A CORD Of LITE CONNECT HE
AND i - I LET HIM COME TO ME

NOT LONG - ONE MONTH - NO MORE
THAN THA-T - HOLD ON DEAR!

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posted October 12, 2002 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for sharing that Hopeful.

And thank you for the e-mail. I will have to think about that. Or perhaps I will attempt to dream it - it seems to be working more than well lately.

Thank you, Hopeful.

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posted October 17, 2002 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - I am most grateful for any help you can provide and am fascinated about your dreaming ability! I had a couple of dreams the other night. More car dreams, but a little different this time:

1 - I walk up to large sedan and tap on the front passenger window. My Aunt (my dad's sister) turns to look at me and she unlocks the doors. My mother is driving. I get into the BACK seat. We are riding through the country on a bright, sunny day. My mom points to a side road and tells my Aunt that is where the small farm is she visited the other day where they had the cutest duck.

2 - I'm riding on an expressway in the bed of a pick-up truck. My brother (the difficult one) is in the cab with two other men. It is very window, and I reach up to hold on to the cab and grab this loose, dark material. I hear the men talking about what a great moving trailer this is, and then I realize the bed of the truck is now covered and there are two small mattresses inside, one horizontal and one vertical. The horizontal one has a rough brown blanket over it. I thought I was a lone, but I realize one of my male cousins is sitting in the corner behind me - and this is a trailer he shares with a male friend. There is a fireplace now next to the brown blanket, and I make a fire and fall asleep. I wake up to burning embers, and directly in front of the fireplace gold stardust flies into the air as embers pop out from the grate. Then, the fireplace is mostly dark. Suddenly, there is a round bump moving towards me in the ask - it is about 6 inches in diameter. It is a mud man! He is completely dark except I can see his eyes and his skinny arms sticking out of the ball. He looks at me and says "all i do is roll around in the mud all day."

Thoughts?!

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posted October 18, 2002 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Hopeful. That second one is kind of bizarre! There is definately something here about your emotional state (in the mud), probably centered around the same old "masculine" forces/aspects.

It may be Monday before I can really examine the symbols.

About the last lexi you sent me - I asked for a dream about you, and I may have received something, but it was vague - probably because of a lack of sleep - and I intend to ask for more tonight. I actually sleep at NIGHT on the weekends!

I will ask you this - the woman who appeared to me is someone I know with very powerful energies. Physically, she is what I think of as an Amazon - this is a good thing! She is big in stature (not over-weight!), and beautiful. Just a powerful looking woman, with powerful energies - but a bit misguided, from what I know. Any similarity of appearance? Just curious. Your energy is certainly softer, but no less powerful.

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posted October 18, 2002 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - me powerful? I'm

No, I'm not tall. I'm 5'5" with dark hair and dark eyes. I am not stick thin but I am not overweight (not more than 10 lbs anyway!).

Yes - I thought that second dream was bizarre!

Thank you for dreaming for me.

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posted October 23, 2002 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful, I cannot believe it has been this many days!

Two dreams - one "driven" by feminine forces, with a positive feeling and symbols, the other "driven" by masculine forces, with negative feelings and symbols. In both, you are along for the ride - not in control. In general, this gives me the feeling that you have somewhat let loose of a controlling aspect of self - that you are kind of going with the flow. This is helping with your feminine aspects, but there is something with the masculine that is certainly challenging or impeding you.

The pick-up truck indicates work. The trailer suggests that which is being carried within the sub/unconscious. As you are "travelling" with this masculine force, there is a reaction for some amount of control (hold onto cab), only to find unconscious material (dark material) being "loosed" from the effort. This material from the unconscious is pulled into the subconscious (covered trailer). Mattresses also symbolize the subconscious, and these two (duality) are positioned opposite each other (conflict). It is suggested that you begin to transform this subconscious conflict (make fire), but do not finish (fall asleep/fire goes out). The "unfinished business" manifests itself as the "mud man" - symbolizing the emotional mire of this masculine aspect confliction, which could be embodied by or presented through the murky relationship with the Sag - perhaps?

I do sense in you this "emotional mire". Something will bear fruit soon - one way or the other - such are my feelings anyway.

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posted October 24, 2002 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra - don't worry about the delay. I just returned from my business trip and didn't have time to log in until today.

Your thoughts are very interesting to me. In one sense, I have "let go and let god/dess" - as they say - with regard to the Sag. On the other hand, I am trying to keep the FAITH that the Uni-verse (Spirit/God/dess - depending on which book I'm reading at the moment!) will do what's best for me...only can I please have the Sag?! So, seriously, I have stepped back quite a bit but am trying to trust what I read in my lexi's. I too feel it will break one way or another within the next month or so. The "old" me would have been feeling much angst right about now, but the new, more intuitive me is relatively calm. I'm trying hard to keep the faith and trust that I will wed someone, the Sag or another, who will help me to continue and grow spiritually.

I did a lexi on the "mud man" on the plane which was somewhat interesting. I'll try and find it and post it for you later.

Thanks for your guidance and help.

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