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Hopeful
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posted May 01, 2002 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Everyone -

I have been trying for about a month now to have better dream recall. My understanding is that our subconscious will communicate with us through our dreams, and thus we can get our dreams to work for us.

I keep paper and pen by my bedside, and I have also recently started meditating (or trying to anyway!), but there has been little improvement in my recall.

Suggestions???

Thanks!

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posted May 02, 2002 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
I read somewhere that within ten minutes of waking up we lose the dream memory.

What I do is when I first wake up I latch on to one element of the dream that stuck out. Then keep repeating it over and over in my head until the 'dream' is there. After that I go from the element and see what else I can remember.

But sometimes the entire dream is very vivid and I am able to really remember it.

Hopeful, I think it just comes with practice...and quit worring about it. One day it will start happening. Sometimes the anticipation of trying to remember will short circut what you are trying to do....at least for me that happens.

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posted May 02, 2002 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
The pen and paper next to your bed is a great idea. But you are missing a vital component. Before you go to sleep state aloud: "Wake me when I've had a dream!" When you wake up, write down the details, and say it all over again. In the morning, read your hints, and you will recall most of your dreams perfectly. MAGIC!

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posted May 02, 2002 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you both! I will try your suggestions. I am starting to remember tiny bits of my dreams, so maybe the "verbal" suggestions and trying to relax about it will help.

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posted May 02, 2002 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent suggestions.

And you might wish to try scribbling a simple sketch of elements in the dream. This does not have to be a work of art, just a simple drawing. This works better for some than actually writing words, and it is much faster. Later, when you have time, you will be able to write about the dream by looking at the sketch, and you will remember.

Have fun! Recall is just around the corner!

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posted May 07, 2002 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
I do seem to be remembering more, but it is all coming in fragments. Will this improve with time or do some people only remember fragments?

Also, if any of you can interpret this message, please let me know! Last week, I dreamt about this guy I've been involved with, and someone spoke to me in a deep, loving voice and clearly said "His soul is an old soul." Mean anything?

Thanks,
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posted May 07, 2002 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I would say, taken in conjunction with all of the other symbology of the dream, and depending upon the aspects in which the symbols are presented, that it probably means ... he is an old soul. (poking fun at myself - the way I speak)

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with fragments! It is probably just the beginning of better recall.

We would love to hear any "fragments" you may remember. Much can be represented in the barest of symbols!

Above all, be Hopeful! (I know, that was really bad!)

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posted May 07, 2002 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
But what is an "old soul?"

Okay, here are a couple of frags I wrote down from last night:

1. A store clerk takes me into a fitting room with a friend (female) who is shown to the last fitting room with a door. There is a big fitting room with no door I can use - or I can wait for a closed door room. I'm holding a pile of clothes over my arm.

2. I"m in my kitchen thinking "I'm not going to make banana bread for him" So, I decide to hard boil the eggs instead.

Those are the longest fragments! Most are much shorter.

I AM . . . Hopeful!

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posted May 08, 2002 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful,

Exactly what Yivy said. Sometimes, a bit of it may hit you and you may remember the entire dream later in the day. The best methods according to the experts (the ones who write the books) is to lie still after waking and trying to remember. This however, need not hep everyone. A lot of mine comes, when I am brushing my teeth,immediately or sometimes much later in the day.
To each his own. I have known people who continue to have the dream from where it left off, whether it was the previous day or after waking up sometime in the night-something like a movie. I have wished for this, in some cases when seeking solutions, but it does not happen.
Not all dreams need to be interpreted, as we all dream every night. Most of them are our sub-consious soothing things for us, or replaying things for healing the soul. The emotions are important when we dream, as they hold a key to the various symbols.
Some are telling dreams.
If you watch the posts, you will realise, that we all pester Ra, to interpret our dreams. He is real good and has not shooed any of us away till now.
Sorry Ra, feel guilty about getting you more work here, but the truth had to be told.
One more whom you misled in past life, lol, sorry could not resist that one. Am still laughing about it.

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raj_105_2001
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posted May 08, 2002 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
I too re-member only fragments, but I find the fragments thems-elves are enough.

The recommended method is to simply write down whatever you re-member, in a dream Journal. The result is, you start re-membering more and more fragments.

I don't know whether this would lead to lucid dreaming eventually.

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posted May 09, 2002 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Seeker, have I "shooed" someone? I hope not! And you should never feel that you are pestering me. I truly do enjoy this, and I would not continue in the manner I do if I did not. I only mention my time constraints because I often feel that the interpretations I give are inadequate, or rather that there is so much more to them, and I am only able to give a sketch.

By the way, Seeker, you have a natural ability at this yourself! More so than me, to be sure. You need only to "practice" a bit more. Someday soon it could be you who is asked for opinions, if that is what you wish. Trust me, I see it! (and I could use the help! )

Hopeful, these "fragments" of yours tell much!

The first one: You are considering changing some aspect of your persona, suggested by the clothes over your arm. But there is a choice to be made. Either you can do this privately, internally - or you can do it in an exposed manner, more openly or outwardly. It could also be that you fear exposing yourself to others, or you fear the exposing nature of the change, so you wait until you can do it privately, or not at all. There is also the suggestion that you may feel problems with "fitting in" with some situation, and are not sure how to go about it. There is also a hint of a possible sexual relevance to this, but I am not certain about that. Or perhaps the situation has to do with other "feminine" aspects of self.

The second: The kitchen is a place of creation, and can also symbolize transformation.

Cooking (or thinking about it) indicates a choice, your choice, relating to nourishment on some level. It also symbolizes transformation and creation.

Bread is a basic necessity, nourishment, and the banana relates to masculinity, perhaps sexual. Deciding not "to make banana bread for him" could suggest that this type of energy, masculine sexual energy, is not desired or needed.

Eggs have many possible meanings, but in this case seems to relate to femininity/fertility, probably sexual. It also relates to potential, and to self. Boiling them suggests a hardening of the above possibilities, inaccessibility.

Within this context, it seems that you are dealing with a choice concerning the sexual or intimate nature of a relationship, and have decided, at least subconsciously, that this is not yet the time for it, or that you do not particularly need or want whatever of it there is.

Then again, there are other possibilities! I do not usually use Freudian-type symbology, but it seems to fit with this dream.

Did you ever think there could be so much information in such small fragments? Well, there may not be, I DO tend to over-analyze , but I like to cover as much of the possibilities as I can.

Please let me know if there is any truth to these interpretations. If there is not, then I will try again! I am still learning!

Thank you for sharing!

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posted May 09, 2002 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra -

Very interesting interpretations! I think you are on the mark.

For the first, I do not like to expose myself or my feelings. Recently, I have learned that I give men the impression I am not vulnerable and can do just fine on my own (Thanks for the insight there Lyndel and Auriel!). I have been trying to meditate, learn about dreams and become more centered in an effort to become more comfortable with the feeling of being vulnerable. In my current relationship, I have been trying to decide whether to talk to him about what makes me feel insecure. Which brings me to the second frag.

Last week, my Sag pulled another inconsiderate move. I am learning patience (please note - I'm an Aries!!) since I managed not to react by immediately contacting him and demanding an explanation! Instead, I asked for an answer in my dreams. One came in a set of words I"ve asked YIVY to lexi. The other answer I suspect, from what you've written, came in the kitchen dream. I had reached the point that night where I was feeling like if this was not the time in his life where he could focus on our relationship, that I needed to accept that and, while not cutting him off completely, continue pursuing other options. So, your interp of the dream tells me that subconsciously I was telling myself I don't need "him" so much and should let go. Surprisingly, it was the morning after I had this dream that he called to apologize! Maybe letting go caused a stir in him? Anyway, I also have been trying to get more in touch with my feminine side which I think plays into the other things you mentioned.

Last night, the only frag I remembered (even though I now realize I'm dreaming a lot - just not remembering it all yet - which is an improvement!), I was telling myself I needed to go for a walk. I was feelng an anxious energy - almost agitation in the dream.

How long have you been studying dreaming? I think you are doing great!

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posted May 09, 2002 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat71     Edit/Delete Message

I had a dream recently where I watched a train crash, and somehow I knew my mum was on the train, & she uses the train alot so I asked her in future to sit at the back of the train when she travels, then she had a dream the other day she was driving a train that crashed into a ravine
What does this mean,
I have been praying alot about this,
Any illuminations out there?

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posted May 11, 2002 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful, so the symbols that I took to be possibly sexual in nature were actually representing intimacy or the relation between those forces? (male and female)

Makes sense, and this helps me a great deal! As I said, I am still learning!

Thanks!

The fragment about taking a walk probably just means you need a break. It could be about being more self-confident (walking = moving under your own power) in some situation, or it could be telling you to "take a walk", perhaps away from some situation. It fits well with what you have thus said and I think you can apply it to many levels of your waking life.

Thank you!

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posted May 11, 2002 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Cat71 - I am concerned about your mother. There is something about her life that is headed for trouble, something that she (and you) feel is out of control. A train runs along a track, and this symbolizes some path that is fixed, or at least perceived as such. There is something rigid, hard, unmoving, about her, about the way she thinks, or some happening in her life - perhaps her life path itself - that is destined to crash and burn. It must be evident, the both of you are very much aware of it.

On the positive side, it may be a good thing for this to happen. It could indicate the end of whatever this rigidity is, whatever the destructive path is. Keep an eye on your mother, she may need help minimizing the force of the destruction, or at least help in recovering. The smallest amount of awareness of this upcoming event could change her life path, for the better.

If you can, talk about it with her. She needs help, she needs someone to be with her - at least in communication and understanding.

I hope this helps. Sending light.

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posted May 12, 2002 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat71     Edit/Delete Message

Thank you for taking the time to reach out Ra,
Thankfully my relationship with my mum is very candid
We will talk about what you've said & check back later.
Thanks again
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posted May 13, 2002 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra -

Things are really starting to make sense for me. YIVY did a lexi for me on a phrase that came to me in a dream - and the bottom line was . . . RELAX! My personal life has been at the height of my attention, and I think now that I have "ordained" I need to sit back and let my Higher S-Elf do the work. What do you think?

I had a really long dream (for me anyway!) the other night. I wrote it down, so I'll bring it in and retype it here rather than try and paraphrase.

Good work!

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posted May 14, 2002 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Cat71 - thank you. Please do check back!

Hopeful - Thanks!

Makes sense to me. Let us see what your subconscious can come up with, though!
Seriously, though, something has begun for you. It would be interesting to see what your subconscious self decides it is time for you to know. Please share any dreams if you feel like sharing.

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posted May 15, 2002 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Okay Ra - this one made no sense to me!

I was sitting on my parent's sofa with this guy from my current job who I've always been attracted to (he's married in reality) and I know he feels the same, but neither one of us would ever act on it. He's very easygoing, down to earth and mellow. So, he's there flirting with me, and it is some holiday and there is going to be a family dinner. I feel flattered, but I'm nervous too. I walk into the kitchen where there is another cute guy (oh yes - men are on my mind!) who I don't know but he's definitely flirting with me. We stand there chatting, and he starts burping! He is a bit embarrassed, but he says he went swimming that morning and it must be from the chlorine. The next thing I know, I turn and suddenly our small family dinner has turned into a huge event. There is a line of people streaming in which include two of my old bosses and their wives (both of these guys I have strained relationships with - one more than the other). I suddenly notice the room has become bigger and there are 6 or so tables set for dinner - not connected but spread through the room like in a restaurant. I am unhappy that it is no longer a family event and I am angry that no one told me these people were coming. I also think a woman I used to work with is there, but I don't see her. I never do see my parents (my father BTW died years ago).

Does this make any sense???!

Have fun -
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posted May 15, 2002 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful - A bit more than a fragment! I think this dream fits well with your others.

It is about choices - those you have made and those you have yet to make. It seems there is something "wrong" with each of the men in the dream, at least something that would inable a relationship. And there is a need for a rest (holiday) from the constant thinking along these lines. And there is a fear (nervous). This "fear" turns your attention to another, who in turn gives you reason to turn and look at some of the others of the past. The reason has to do with the emotions (he is a swimmer) and they seem to be surfacing (burp).

It is interesting that the scene kind of shifts from one of a family dinner to an event. This could indicate that the root of the mind-set you are currently operating under, the way in which you are "relating" with people, is a learned behavior from an early age, perhaps having to do with your parents who are conspicuously missing - a possible indication of the unconscious nature of the material.

You become unhappy and angry, suggesting that you may be becoming aware of some thing within self that you fear.

Altogether, I would say this dream reflects your current internal conflicts concerning intimate relationships.

What do you think?


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posted May 16, 2002 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Ra -

Your insight is so helpful! Thank you!! I do seem to be remember more of the dreams - when I remember them. Sometimes I go for days without remembering anything even though I know I was dreaming.

Your last interpretation makes a lot of sense to me. I am trying to make better decisions about relationships and be more intuitive about it all. I know I am dealing with abandonment and control issues from childhood - but I'm not clear on why. I had a great childhood. I was alone a lot, but I didn't mind.

I thought I would tell you about the dream I had about a month ago which started me on this quest to try and remember my dreams and eventually come to understand them. (By the way - do you use a dream symbol book and if so which one do you like?)

The dream was about me watching a basketball game from the deck of a cruise ship! I was on the rail, and about 20 feet to my right were some women from work who were also on the rail. Some big waves would come crashing towards us, but they would go under me - leaving me dry - but completely drench these other women. Then, the dream shifted to our work cafeteria, and me and one other woman each got a slice of pizza. When we went to checkout, the cashier told us it was $4 a slice - and I said that was ridiculous because a whole pizza was only $5! So, she said then buy the whole pizza and I said "but we don't want a whole pizza."

How about that one?!!

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posted May 16, 2002 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting! There are many symbols there that relate to self - basketball, ship, pizza - and the cruise ship itself can symbolize the journey you are taking/will take across the depths of the Unconscious.

I will try to get to this tomorrow!

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posted May 17, 2002 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hopeful - You said this dream kind of started you on your quest to understand your dreams (the sub/unconscious), how perfect! That is exactly what the opening scene is symbolizing. Being on the deck of a cruise ship symbolizes your journey into the collective unconscious, the place from where dream symbols emanate!

Watching basketball game - observing conflict/competition within self (ball).

Sitting on the rail - focus on the boundary between the collective unconscious and your personal consciousness.

Women from work - represent an aspect of self identified with work, or an aspect that needs "work."

Big waves - suggest the buildup of unconscious and/or emotional energies.

Other women drenched - suggests that those aspects of self which are in need of work will be overwhelmed by emotional/unconscious material.

The scene now shifts to the work cafeteria. This could symbolize that the part of you that needs work, needs nourishment.

Pizza - here it probably represents both self (round) and choices/decisions. A slice could represent a part/aspect of self.

The cost of this part, which you want - you have decided upon - is "four". In dreams, I am finding Jung's thoughts to be true, that four is a very personal indicator, one of change, of transformation/individuation. It says that you must examine your current psychological boundaries, the foundations upon which you have builded your conscious self (four).

The relationship between five and four is difficult to explain, the way I am seeing it, but I will try. In examining the boundaries/foundations set forth by "four", self is discovered - "one". By the giving of one (self), five may be realized, wholeness. In dream symbology, five often represents balance, the senses, or the physical human, and also to wholeness or completion. Four is a number of becoming, five is a number of being. And self, one, is the difference.

There is also a suggestion concerning choices/decisions. It seems this theme emerges in many of your dreams! Perhaps you feel that you have too many. It could also mean that you need to make some choices concerning self. The choices could be related to your basic psychology, your psyche (four), and possibly suppressed, unconscious material.

It seems that your "quest" could lead you into something much larger!

Does this feel right?


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posted May 20, 2002 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Oh,Bravo Ra! Your interpretation is so helpful. It really says a lot to me! My quest does seem to be spiraling and I have begun to realize that there is so much more out there and available than I ever dreamed (no pun intended!) possible. I really feel I am starting to tap my intuitive self more, and your interpretations do lend a great deal of support. I like the idea of the 4 and 5 and becoming and being. That is amazing. Thank you!

Is it possible for two persons subconscious's to "talk" in dreams? The other night, first I dreamt of a coiled snake with two uncoiled snakes nearby.

Then, I dreamt I was riding in a car - my brother was driving and I was laying on his lap - his wife and kids, my mom and some guy were in the back seat - I offered for my nephew to come in the front but he didn't want to

Then I had the one where I thought I might be talking to my elusive Sag: he and I were sitting - facing each other - and he was telling me that he wasn't dating anyone else anymore - I started to feel a little tense and nervous as I knew he was going to say "let's see where this will go" - and then he was interrupted by work. It seemed so real and especially since I was asking for a sign about our connection.

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posted May 20, 2002 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Enter ... the serpent.

Hopeful, you are indeed tapping into something! The coiled snake is a spiral, energy compacted, ready to spring loose. The others are uncoiled, and nearby - the time is near for some unleashing of this energy.

I do not have time for more right now, but I will say that this symbol comes up alot around here! And for you it has something to do with the meanings of the other fragments, probably.

I think YIVY holds the record for snake dreams!

Until later!

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