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anafaery
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posted August 08, 2003 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nooooo

*heavy sigh*

oh dear. *crying*

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lioneye68
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posted August 08, 2003 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jackie...very dramatic. nice. Now you made the nice faery cry...

My statement wasn't a personal attack on you. I was bringing into question why teva's statements and obvious contempt for the US didn't stir any ire in you, but LL's blast back at him offended you to no end. If you're an impartial party, you'd have been offended in principle by either both, or neither. Not one over the other.

PS, I'm not even American, and teva offended me...in principle. He's completely lacking in human compassion for the hurt the events of 9/11 caused.

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anafaery
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posted August 08, 2003 07:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it wasnt her. it was everything. this thread... just goes on and on and i swear, george bush isnt the 'antichrist', this thread seems to do that job well enough without him.

i had hoped that we could have peaceful resolution and agree to disagree but still respect each other like i said on page, what, 5? i had a part in bringing it up again too, so who the eff am i to talk? i am feeling very hypocritical right now as i did defend myself when i was attacked after the fact. i am just so torn. i feel so guilty.

~bleah

ps i am a believer in the value of 'scorched earth policy' but sometimes we can go too far and burn our homes down too.

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ozonefiller
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posted August 08, 2003 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever you do,I hope that you don't go Jakie,what was said hear,it was not your fault,you were just trying to keep the peace among these... these boards. You just related to teva about his country that's all and that's OK, there's nothing wrong with that. I do enjoy YOUR posts and your a very beautiful soul. Teva on the other hand,I felt that his posts were down right cruel and misguided, not to just me,my family,my country,but to the people here as well. Your not that way! Please,reconcider! Please don't go and we never hear from you again!

I think that the last few years has taken a major toll on all of us and that the present events are not making it any easier for anybody as well! I believe that we're all trying to find ourselves in this mess and trying so desperatly seek of understanding why this all came about. Clues have followed,but no ground to hold. In a time that we all were celibrating the New Millimium with hopes and dreams,has turned to disaster for us mindlessly. Whatever their is to uncover let it be,but know thyself for the truth will never settle in our hearts!


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juniperb
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posted August 08, 2003 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Four Oxen and the Lion

A Lion used to prowl about a field in which

Four Oxen used to dwell. Many a time he

tried to attack them; but whenever he came

near, they turned their tails to one

another, so that whichever way he

approached them he was met by the horns of

one of them. At last, however, they fell a-

quarreling among themselves, and each went

off to pasture alone in a seperate corner


of the field. Then the Lion attacked them

one by one and soon made an end to all four.


United We Stand, Divided We Fall

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lioneye68
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posted August 08, 2003 07:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YEAH!!! Juni that's great. Ozone, you're a sweetie.

~~~~~~~~~~~~(olive branch)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

who accepts it?

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ozonefiller
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posted August 08, 2003 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try...

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anafaery
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posted August 08, 2003 07:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lioneye, i accept it always. i am very fond of you. i dont know if you know that. we dont really talk/post much. i am though. i am glad that you are drawing on the power of your leo dignity to spread peace. its your birthright and no one could do it better but a leo. even a libra diplomat.

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

i am up in the clouds i am up in the clouds and i can't and i can't come down

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anafaery
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posted August 08, 2003 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
juni

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

i am up in the clouds i am up in the clouds and i can't and i can't come down

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ozonefiller
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posted August 08, 2003 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that it seems akward,but I'm sorry if I hurt you in any of my posts,anafaery.

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anafaery
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posted August 08, 2003 08:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you didnt hurt me ozone. no worries. i dont like to see namecalling though. that... is just not a productive way to operate in a forum. ive learned by *much* experience, and part of that experience was personal (NOT lindaland- and i didnt provoke it, lets get that straight, it was a being in the wrong place in the wrong time with the wrong jealous female around). some of it was when i was an admin of my own site. i agree with you that teva was quite inflammatory and unjudicious with his comments, in my very humble opinion. we should be clear on that. imo when we see behaviour that is hurtful we are duty bound to be responsible enough to say 'that is not right'. namecalling doesnt do that though. it just creates a full blown fight and separates the issues to a degree that we cannot reach respectful resolution, because it is about 'fighting', not a mere difference of opinion. 'fighting' is much harder to reconcile.

you didnt hurt me though, and i feel that you were coming from a place of pain. reactionary... you know? its hard to get a grip on powerful emotions sometimes. especially in matters regarding loss and tragedy. i feel a lot of compassion for you. im really sorry. i know some people who were immediately affected by that tragedy too. it was awful.

thank you for your apology ozone. i appreciate it. dont worry about me though. you didnt hurt me personally.

~faery, who swears she will just LOVE the hurt out of this thread if it kills her... its the libran way

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

i am up in the clouds i am up in the clouds and i can't and i can't come down

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ally
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posted August 08, 2003 08:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread mainly offended me for one reason.
Why do you (you,in general,to anyone who feels this way) allow yourself patriotism, yet deny other people theirs'?

It seems silly to me. All countries are faulted. None are better or worse than the other. There's no difference between my country's people and yours. It's discriminatory and very insultative.

Anyhow,I'm glad this thread finally cooled down a bit.

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ozonefiller
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posted August 08, 2003 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ally, I don't know whether your talking to me or to someone else,who?

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silverbells
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posted August 08, 2003 10:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*takes the olive branch too*

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Get some love in your groove, just get hip to forgive-Michael Franks

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lioneye68
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posted August 08, 2003 10:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ana, you're a delight to have here. I think we think in the same circles, but you express your self with alot more tact, maybe too much sometimes? You concern yourself alot more than I about how your words are recieved. I could probably learn from you. (vise versa right? )

Ozone, I'm pretty sure Ally didn't mean you, because I don't recall you bashing anyone's patriotism at any point. The only country you've ever been critical of is your own, and I think that's out of pain/love. (notice how the two are so closely tied )

Jacqueline, I'm no better than you. I tend to be partial to the US, because they're my neihbor and big brother, and likewise for you and France.
I don't know if you'll be back to read this, but if so, I just want you to know that it's cool. I get it.
I too try to be impartial, but the insensitivity sometimes IRKS me. If that attack happened to any other country, I would feel just as outraged. And so would most people with a heart.

Silverbells... gotcha, babe.

And TEVA. You know what? It doesn't matter who was behind that attack, because the end result is still the same. Over 3000 people died, and about 300,000 lost family or freinds. You can't tell me, as a compassionate human being, that you're revelling in that fact. If so, you're defunct as a human. You should retire yourself.

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ozonefiller
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posted August 09, 2003 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Echoes

Overhead the albatross
Hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves
In labyrinths of coral caves
An echo of a distant time
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine.

And no one called us to the land
And no one knows the where's or why's.
Something stirs and something tries
Starts to climb toward the light.

Strangers passing in the street
By chance two separate glances meet
And I am you and what I see is me.
And do I take you by the hand
And lead you through the land
And help me understand
The best I can.

And no one called us to the land
And no one forces down our lives
No one speaks and no one tries
No one flies around the sun....

Almost everyday you fall
Upon my waking eyes,
Inviting and inciting me
To rise.
And through the window in the wall
Come streaming in on sunlight wings
A million bright ambassadors of morning.

And no one sings me lullabyes
And no one makes me close my eyes
So I throw the windows wide
And call to you across the sky....

-Waters, Wright, Mason, Gilmour

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Oxychick
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posted August 09, 2003 10:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never thought I'd lock a thread, but obviously some people are here just to hurt others. Too many people are getting hurt.

If you are here to vent, please take that hostility elsewhere. We're here to discuss, not attack.

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