posted May 03, 2006 01:56 PM            

Speaking of "witch", I got to meet up with my landlady!

posted May 03, 2006 02:00 PM              

If ever you want good psychic guidance about anything, go to IQ....I am telling you he is AMAZING.

He has helped me and my family so much, when I was down, through his expertise in astrology and his very psychic nature, he helped me heaps. He also assisted me with some stuff our son was going thro....he is extremely talented and centred..

He also has a knack of sussing people out in a heartbeat...really this is one of his talents, very helpful it is to have him around !!!

I have also gotta say AG is one of the wisest and fairest souls I ever came across and again has given me very good support and guidance in the past.

Thanks guys...you are truly good people....just wanted to take this opportunity to show my appreciation..it appears praise, at times, is sadly lacking in our society...

posted May 03, 2006 02:03 PM            

So what do you say IQ, read my chart and tell these nice people how nutty I am!

posted May 03, 2006 02:27 PM              

HA HA HA HA HA....

Love it....

Mr Ozone, are you VERY Scorpionic then...if you tell...I will too...bet ive got more than you... na na na na na

posted May 03, 2006 04:41 PM            

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posted May 03, 2006 04:49 PM            

1. Jwhop's already authorized a person he often considers a political opponent to reveal part of his chart as his whole chart is already known to this site.

2. IQ was not here for any discussion about the validity of commenting on a person via their chart, nor was he (or I) able to make comments on that discussion.

3. Jwhop himself has boasted of his Mercury in Virgo as if that should mean that his point of view is correct. He has also engaged in conversation of an astrological nature in GU. I'm not certain whether or not he's ever brought up someone's astrological profile himself.

4. I haven't yet seen any men on this site express concern about exposing their chart for comment. Perhaps what's been discussed here, and elsewhere in UC, regarding genders and the way they argue differently (women are more cutthroat and may need rules for what would be considered too far) has some bearing on this.

posted May 03, 2006 05:06 PM            

Trying to rationalize your way out of a wrong doesn't make it right. People lie to themselves all the time in order to justify a wrong doing.

Again, jwhop did not give any of you permission to post his birth data and dissect his chart. Even if you have deemed him the king of name calling, that doesn't even come close to justifying what you and others did.

If this is the path you have chosen and you feel justified in it, then that is your right. I find it highly disgusting and have lost so much respect for anyone that thinks it's okay. You may not see the caustic remarks made by IQ based on jwhops chart, but they're there - it's almost like telling someone "Ah, you're a big idiot but how can you help it according to your chart you were a pedophile in another life and screwed up big time, that is why your father died such a horrible death in this life"

Ozone,

Actually, it is more than an unspoken rule around here. We have had people thrown off for using astrology against another as well as being warned for bias based on sign, race, etc... remember you and I both got angry when we saw those types of attacks - as did the other knowflakes.

ANYONE in Astrology knows NEVER to break those rules. You need the permission of that person (regardless if he gave it to someone else and especially when used against that person). The circumstance is different when someone gives blanket permission for anyone to do what they want.

In any case, there are so few people that would break that rule that even though it causes my heart to sink, I know it won't end up becoming a common thing here at LindaLand.

posted May 03, 2006 05:25 PM            

JW will always be the type of person that will manage to stand out on the crowd and things like this is going to always be an option that is left on the table just to realize what that is, why that person is the way that person is and how to avoid problems down the road with someone like JW, for he does tend to have that outstanding personality about him!

I never got into the understanding of "astrology rascism" Pid and I couldn't understand why one couldn't be so defined once that person summited the information of they're charts.

I look at this much, other then privacy that JW didn't yield to, his chart does clearly exhibit a great deal of strengths that he has.

posted May 03, 2006 05:45 PM            

In order to be a rationalization it would have to be self-serving. I wrote what I wrote to serve IQ. If you don't think these points are valid, that's your right.

posted May 03, 2006 06:59 PM            

I wonder if that same fella got it the first time around?

It simply isn`t done.

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posted May 03, 2006 07:16 PM            

That's not the case here, however.

IQ asked for info on Jwhop and Ozone complied. IQ made personal comments on the chart. I made non-personal remarks on the chart. Jwhop still hasn't shown up to weigh in on anything. Once he does then we'll have an answer.

posted May 03, 2006 07:36 PM            

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posted May 03, 2006 07:44 PM            

You and Pid say that it shouldn't happen, because it invades a person's privacy and is offensive to a person. In order to establish whether or not that is true requires the opinion of the potentially offended.

posted May 03, 2006 09:03 PM              

I wonder what Jwhop thinks about all this. I wish he'd show up and speak for himself. Being a mainly astrological site, most people are surprisingly open with their charts. Some advertise their sign in their name, for Heaven's sake. On the other hand, some do like to maintain a degree of privacy. No idea which catagory Jwhop falls into so I really don't know what to think.

posted May 03, 2006 11:52 PM              

IQ good work...Ive been watching you around LL and you are one of the most giving and knowlegable knowflake on here.

posted May 04, 2006 12:10 AM              

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That said, now I just want to know what is a Sabian Symbol or Sabian something IQ?

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posted May 04, 2006 12:59 AM            

Why this curiosity, I don't know but since you are curious and have it somewhat wrong, I'll tell you.

I am also a name 8.

You don't see my Scorp rising on this forum. You see the Leo Moon, which detests lies, liars and subterfuge, with equal amounts of contempt. You also see Mars in Aries who knows what to do about it and Mercury in Virgo to give it proper expression....here.

I'm at home in the boardroom...been there and done that as well as kicking back with a construction crew, gardener, window washer or anyone else who does honest work for a living.

I despise communists, communism, socialists, socialism and all collectivists and collectivism. So the chance I would ever be a revolutionary communist is laughable.
There are only 3 kinds of collectivists/socialists/communists.

1. Those who are so brain dead they've never looked around to see what kind of societies socialists and communists create. Repressive, oppressive and murderous. They spread misery wherever they appear. Organized thuggery, murder, starvation and total control.

2. Those who are so unmotivated, so directionless, so helpless, so lacking in personal identity they need someone to tell them what to do, when to do it and how to do it. Eventually, they'll even be willing to be told what to think.

3. Those who think communist/socialist revolution will find them in control of the levers of power so they can enforce their will on the whole society. For those, I've been waiting for some time for them to start their American Bolshevik Revolution. People like me will bury them and their followers, permanently.

I don't haul water for anyone and no one tells me what to do, what to say, what to think or anything else. I do what I please, when I please. That said, I obey the law because there must be rules in any just and stable society. Just make sure the law is really the law and not some unenforceable edict of government attempting to enforce an unconstitutional statute and I know the difference. Since I was 10 years old, no one has been able to make me do a damned thing I didn't want to do. I'll always take what's behind door number 2 so ultimatums are useless with me and perhaps dangerous.

Forget Mars in the 6th house because it has nothing to do with anything here at LL.
Except for my Leo Moon, all my personal planets are in their natural signs. I have Sun, Moon and Pluto plus Chiron in Leo on the midheaven along with Mercury in Virgo. Venus is in Libra and Mars is in Aries.

I'm at ease with myself and have no internal conflicts...one of the benefits of having Sun and Moon in the same sign. I'm an aggressive personality in every way, an ENTJ personality type.

So, I hope I've spoken to the questions of the curious. There's nothing hidden about me but it really would be best to avoid sharing your interpretation of my chart or anyone else's who didn't ask...on the forums. There are many interpretations for every aspect, every sign/house position, every planet in every sign and I've read enough of them to know most miss the mark, some more than others.