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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was with you up until this last post (HSC).


At least it got you off the fence,
to admit that you were with me all along.

Better late than never.

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"You haven't gone far enough
until you've gone too far."
~ Mars/Merc in Sagittarius

"And only when you have all denied me,
shall I return to you."
~ Nietzsche's Zarathustra

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AcousticGod
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posted February 14, 2008 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was writing out why, but I decided I'd just send that via email.

I am a fan, of course. I think you have a great mind. As you already know I'm not exactly loyal enough to just go along with everything, though. I have to keep some semblance of integrity to myself.

quote:
"You haven't gone far enough
until you've gone too far."
~ Mars/Merc in Sagittarius

I guess that's appropriate.

quote:
At least it got you off the fence,
to admit that you were with me all along.

To be fair, I was also a bit for 26T. I can see what you're saying, but I can also see where her consideration of what you said lead her to say the things she said.

I think for anyone to really consider the meat of what you said in your first post they're automatically going to head down that path of seeming to psychoanalyze you. It would be tough to avoid. We're all experts on our own opinions, so of course that will come across condescending at times.

Definitely a very interesting thread to say the least.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I just wish you would speak up more, AG.

I think you have a lot to teach us.


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AcousticGod
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posted February 14, 2008 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Valentine's Day, so I probably won't be around the rest of the night.

Thanks for the kind words, though I worry about offending you as much as anyone else here.

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NosiS
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posted February 14, 2008 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the post AG referred to was just fine.
Why did you edit it?

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posted February 14, 2008 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't presume to speak for anyone else, but would simply like to point out, that I have thanked my lucky STARS for the ability to edit here. (And I'm not talking about the times I've used it to be an a--, either.) If it's not too crazy..I'd like to just openly defend the right of people to edit their posts without cause..please? It's hard enough admitting the mistake and correcting it..without also having to explain it, further spotlighting the lesson already learned..as evidenced by the editing.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand what you mean, Daf.
And I second those sentiments.

I also think that NosiS was asking
because he liked what I wrote,
and wanted to encourage me
to let my light shine.

Thank you, NosiS.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NosiS,

To answer your question:

I had my doubts.

I didnt feel like making more excuses for myself
(even if they were pretty damn compelling).


Or hurting people's feelings any more today
(however original or accurate my observations may be -
and you know I do say so myself).


And, to be completely honest,
I did it because of what Marty McFly says;
because I'm tragically ahead of my time.

Or not.

I don't know anymore.

Maybe this isnt my crowd.

Maybe I'm not myself.

Maybe both.

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posted February 14, 2008 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway,



I want to apologize,
but I dont know yet what to apologize for.

Or what to defend.

I feel sad.

I feel remorse, mercy.

I feel like I exaggerate my sufferings unforgivably.

I dont know what to do.

I'm such a baby, lol.

I just. . .

I dont know when its okay to cry,
and when its self-pity.

If we could open ourselves, and let it go...

Let the tears pour for days and days...

Would we purge ourselves?

Or just create a channel for infinite grief?

Somebody answer me, please.

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NosiS
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posted February 14, 2008 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,

I agree this thread has been quite beautiful. I thought that HSC's edited post was brutally honest and I, for one, truly enjoy reading those the most. I didn't mean to say that he shouldn't have edited it (although I disagree with the edit) but, as HSC has already responded, to inquire why he did so. I totally agree that the right to edit posts is legitimate and often necessary.


By the way, HSC, I'm not a girl.

I'm not gay, either. (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)

:mumbles: Why do I often find myself telling people what sex I am around here?

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posted February 14, 2008 11:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If we could open ourselves, and let it go...

Let the tears pour for days and days...

Would we purge ourselves?


It can work. It has for me.

If you can learn from it afterwards it works real well.

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posted February 14, 2008 11:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daf,

"I won't presume to speak for anyone else, but would simply like to point out, that I have thanked my lucky STARS for the ability to edit here. (And I'm not talking about the times I've used it to be an a--, either.) If it's not too crazy..I'd like to just openly defend the right of people to edit their posts without cause..please? It's hard enough admitting the mistake and correcting it..without also having to explain it, further spotlighting the lesson already learned..as evidenced by the editing."

Thank you.

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posted February 14, 2008 11:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Real people make mistakes. Real friends know when to let it go.

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NosiS
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posted February 14, 2008 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Real friends know when to let it go.

Not that it should always be let go.

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praecipua
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posted February 15, 2008 12:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to answer your question in your first poem, yes, i feel the ache. so much so that i didn't read the rest in case it was as intense. i save it for later

not talking about the art (how could anyone - or me at least - judge art?) but the feeling. your words were clear and i felt something which seems to resemble what you describe.

i'm not sure if i have to thank you for that

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posted February 15, 2008 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for valcap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, I hear the struggle in your words, and i know that on a message board, it's very difficult for any observation to sound anything but pithy and glib, but I truly believe most people who take the time to respond to you are trying to sincerely help.
"The phrase 'palace of my shame' was an interesting idea. Part of the rock star disease is stewing in your own juices. 'The palace of your shame' describes how people build their lives into a monument to self pity." Bono

You could open yourself up and drown in your tears because there is never ending injustice and pain in this world, this country, down your street,and probably in your own family, if i had to guess. But what a waste! That's not what you came to this earth to do. I don't know what you ARE here for, Steve, but i do know that you have a beautiful, capable mind that could be of service to you and SO MANY OTHERS! You may very well be sensitive and easily wounded, but all that really means is to bandage up more heavily before you go out(or something glib like that ) Stop reminding yourself and everyone around you and get your armour on instead and go live. You have so, so much to give the world.

Now I've gone and broken my own rule of never giving advice unless it's asked for. I hope I haven't made things worse. If so, just chalk it up to some crazed, infrequently-posting whack job and walk on.

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posted February 15, 2008 02:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another good cry. Tears of joy this time. Thanks TINK.

Your brother who loves you dearly,

daf

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 15, 2008 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NosiS,

Sorry, I forgot you were a boy.
I think I knew that, once.

26T,

Thanks.

Praecipua,

Thank you.
That's all I wanted.
And I'm not sure you should thank me either.

valcap,

Very thoughtful post, thanks.
I need to look into armour, I guess.
Protections spells and pouches maybe.
I don't know...
I dont seem to have it built in like some people.



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posted February 15, 2008 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dafremen could you check this thread please, it takes just 5 min.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/001711.html

HSC, sorry to hijack your very interesting topic.

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NosiS
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posted February 15, 2008 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I'm a man.

At least, after more than twenty-and-a-half decades of living I would surely hope so.

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posted February 15, 2008 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Actually, I'm a man

At least, after more than twenty-and-a-half decades of living I would surely hope so.



Wow, NosiS,
you are 205 years old!
That makes you an old man.
I'm 28, but I cant seem to bring myself
to discipline the divine child in me.
Oh, what's a boy to do?
Honestly,
I was so damn serious when I was a kid.
I seem to get younger by the years.
I'm determined to have a childhood.
But I'd like to be a man someday.
That would be pretty sweet.

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posted February 15, 2008 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just felt like posting this here:


Disarm you with a smile
And cut you like you want me to
Cut that little child
Inside of me and such a part of you
Ooh, the years burn

I used to be a little boy
So old in my shoes
And what I choose is my choice
Whats a boy supposed to do?
The killer in me is the killer in you
My love
I send this smile over to you

Disarm you with a smile
And leave you like they left me here
To wither in denial
The bitterness of one whos left alone
Ooh, the years burn
Ooh, the years burn, burn, burn

I used to be a little boy
So old in my shoes
And what I choose is my voice
Whats a boy supposed to do?
The killer in me is the killer in you
My love
I send this smile over to you

The killer in me is the killer in you
Send this smile over to you
The killer in me is the killer in you
Send this smile over to you
The killer in me is the killer in you
Send this smile over to you


~ billy corgan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQtLoJlQD6E

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posted February 15, 2008 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO! Whoops...

I meant two-and-a-half decades of living...lol!

I was so serious as a child, too! I've long felt that I hardly was able to have a childhood or that, at least, I didn't find myself enjoying it enough.
I'm still working things out from those experiences and I realize just how difficult it really is each day. I only meant that I'm a man as far as my coming of age goes. As you are, as well.

Off to work now...

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posted February 15, 2008 10:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally! It's about time poor Billy got a little respect. It's been wall to wall Kurt around here for what seems like forever. Now if someone could please put up a video of that murdering tart's "Violet", my sad, misspent, Lollapoolozad youth will have come full circle.

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posted February 15, 2008 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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