posted September 23, 2006 04:17 AM         

"I am done here"

Oh BTW if anyone is wondering who the "charming and persuasive one" Faye refers to....IT IS ME !!!!

Yes folks I am the incarnate...

hahahehe!!

posted September 23, 2006 08:03 AM         

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So, since she had studied my DOB extensively in order to lexigram my DOB, how would she not know my age? Since she was supposed to know my age, why the "You're an adult right?" question/sarcastic remark? Does this make sense to you?

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>>>DFD...
I do not keep everyone's birth data in my head.
Not even yours.
Anyone who knows me better/personally, knows this about me which I would rather not mention here but it seems the only thing I can do to clarify my "forgetfulness" of certain things.
The areas of memory affected for me are;
1.dates
2.Names
That includes my own birthdate and name.
I was struck by a car, head injury. Lost most of 4 years of memory.
Industrial injury, head trauma.
Later I had a stroke.
I cannot remember dates unless I keep a cheat sheet, and your info I did not have written down handy.
I ask folks over and over for the SAME dates I asked for before.
It is very embarrassing and humiliating.
One of the reasons I am online is to try and retrain my mind to not glitch.
Do you have any idea what it is like for me to forget from time to time even my OWN name?
My own phone number? Birthdate?
Or how to get dressed or many other things? I will stand there looking at the coffee pot and not know how to reach out and pour a cup. I know how but somehow it will not always readily tell my body to do it.
Most days I am not so bad. Fortunately it only affects little things like that and date/name memory more than anything. My body forgets how to do certain physical things. And often my mind just freezes. I cannot move or anything.
That is what head injury and stroke will do, along with a MS varient neurological disorder.

That is another reason I get so cranked up about Lexigrams that I may seem to be yelling. Firstly I love them! Secondly...THEY ARE my MAIN mental exercise to keep my memory from degrading further and to try to retrain my fine memory again, like dates and all.
So any yelling you took personally about lexigramming was not about you but my Lexigramming passion.

As far as my NOT willing or wanting to change my interpersonal commmunication skills and being sarcastic an brunt/brutal.
Well you are dead wrong on your assessment of me there.
In fact I have been working on that aspect of my self. AG has helped tremendously. There are several others who I trust to tell me If I am being too rough or whatever. I OFTEN write them BEFORE I post just to get a second opinion on if my post is ok or needs to be toned down or rephrased before posting.
Much of what I was going to post gets vetoed or seriously edited...
They also offer much appreciated advice on all that and help me take hard looks at myself. I am not afraid of changing myself. They help alot. I value and follow their wise advice.

Thank you to all of you who help me regularly with that!

I am not going to respond to your every comment.
But you have seriously misjudged me and my motives/reason.
Good luck to you.
Sincerely
Fayte.m

posted September 23, 2006 08:24 AM         

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Yes Lia...wise words...if I may quote them

"I am done here"

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Oh BTW if anyone is wondering who the "charming and persuasive one" Faye refers to....IT IS ME !!!!

Yes folks I am the incarnate...

hahahehe!!

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>>>What a very strange thing to claim credit for.....

posted September 23, 2006 08:28 AM         

Honest and for True
by John Collins
I saw an old Greek fellow wandering the streets the other evening holding a lantern out in front of himself, scanning the storefronts, alleyways, and passing cars. He looked kind of disappointed. I can't say as I blame him.

I don't mean to be a Cynic, but I think Diogenes' task of finding an honest man was probably a lot easier in his day than it is in ours. In fact, dishonesty and deception are so pervasive in today's society that we've constructed entire lexicons of larcenous and libelous language for the everyday use of politicians, lawyers, and ex-football stars.

As you've probably guessed, this issue's Origins focusses on honesty. This is apropos, actually, since the main purpose of the column is to help uncover the truth behind everyday sayings. Now, time to get to the Naked Truth.

But what is Truth, really, and why is it naked. Well, Truth, it seems, is a tall, skinny fellow, slightly balding, with a protruding Adam's apple, very scholarly and, of course, modest and reserved, though occasionally a little self-righteous. One day, lo these many years agone, Truth and his rather slovenly counterpart, Falsehood, were strolling together through the woods (they were often together, as they are quite dependent on each other — what is the light of Truth, after all, without the darkness of Falsehood against which to compare it?). They were chatting amiably, as was their wont, though not paying much attention to each other:

Truth: "Beauty is truth, truth beauty — that is all ye know on earth, and all ye need know."

Falsehood: "Truth, sir, is a cow, which will yield people no more milk, and so they are gone to milk the bull."

Truth: "If you do not tell the truth about yourself you cannot tell it about other people."

Falsehood: "In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing."

Their friendly discourse was interrupted by the appearance of a lovely lake (well, okay, the lake didn't actually appear, it was sort of already there and they just happened upon it). On a hot day such as the one on which we are visiting the companions, it was a welcome sight, and they both stripped naked — see where this is going now? — and jumped in.

Truth was splashing pleasantly about enjoying the natural honesty of the little fishies when Falsehood challenged him to swim to the other side of the lake. As it wasn't all that far (and as Truth was, truth to tell, a tad gullible), Truth took the challenge and set off for the far shore. No sooner was he twenty yards away, however, than Falsehood splashed up to the beach and stole Truth's clothes for himself, since they were much finer than his old rags.

When Truth got back from his little excursion, he saw Falsehood parading around on the shore in Truth's finery. When asked about his actions, Falsehood replied, "Since Truth is beauty, you don't need these nice clothes. You can wear mine." And with that, he walked off into the woods.

Truth slogged out of the lake and looked down at the little pile of stained robes left by Falsehood. "I would rather," he announced to no one in particular, "walk naked than wear the raiments of Falsehood!" And henceforth, he walks the earth as Naked Truth.

posted September 23, 2006 08:37 AM         

If I have a problem with that, then yes its MY problem, not yours...

posted September 23, 2006 08:40 AM         

Just asking for an apology for airing my business on line like you did before...

Please dont do this again Faye, it doesnt help me to trust you.

That was the gist of it.

I need to be able to trust you again not to do this

posted September 23, 2006 08:42 AM         

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"Just asking for an apology for airing my business on line like you did before.
Please dont do this again Faye, it doesnt help me to trust you.

That was the gist of it.

I need to be able to trust you again not to do this"

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>>>Sue I have not done what you accuse me of.
Seems you forgot the ugly untrue things you said about me. You refused to apologize.
I let it drop even though you never apologized to me.
I am not going to argue Sue.
Please drop it already.
Since you seem to need another apology, I apologize...again. Can we please just move on now?
Please accept my apology and do me the same courtesy.

Edit/add after you broke the peace agreement below we agreed to and continued to attack me on your later posts on this thread. Your apologies and peace are worthless.
I did not say anything about you changing a post again before in the interest of peace.
You knew you deleted it. But I was willing to ignore it for peace.
Quote from Sue g:

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posted September 23, 2006 08:49 AM         

And to echo my father's words..."its a brave man who can find the humility to apologise"

posted September 23, 2006 09:16 AM         

Agreed then.
I apologize for upsetting you and confusing you. I did not bring anything up as I explained.
I hope you understand.
So here's to

Thank You!

posted September 23, 2006 09:28 AM         

Btw, did you ever hear the music from a film Wuthering Heights (the most recent one)....its by a Japenese composer....

I thought of you for some reason...do you have it?

posted September 23, 2006 10:08 AM         

Yes I can identify with his music. As a few Knowflakes and several others have said, I remind them of the monk in Bulletproof Monk. Especially those in my offline life.
I seems my mannerisms in person and humor and body language are like his.
Asian/Eastern Music resonates with me.

posted September 23, 2006 11:33 AM         

It would be much appreciated by readers here (at least myself) if when you quote people you would use the quote tags. It can get confusing where the quote ends and the post-writer begins. All that you need do is put [ quote ] (without the spaces) at the beginning of what you quote and [ /quote ] (without the spaces) at the end.....

On a message board, where we cannot see facial expressions or body language or hear tone of voice, these small aids in communication can greatly increase understanding -- and goodness knows this whole planet could use more understanding.....

And DforD, please listen to yourself..... is this rampant self-pity productive and useful in your life?? It's so commendable that you are open to spiritual growth and working on your issues, but I don't see this as helpful:

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Again, it wouldn't be a bad thing if all of you ended up treating this thread like what would go on at high school. At least you're all moving on, happy, while I remain misunderstood, but at least you are happy and moving on. At least this is not the worst.

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posted September 23, 2006 01:23 PM         

Thank you D for the above words....very positive !!!

And yes I have to agree....AG are Gooberz are wise and sensible souls!!

posted September 23, 2006 11:02 PM         

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I may seem brutal and blunt to many folks

- And guys, she admitted that she may have seemed brutal and blunt, which she not so infrequently was, and most of you still called that "kindness"? I have no doubt that she sincerely wanted to help whoever was in need, I have no doubt that she tried to help, that she cared. And I have to admit here that this is my personal judgment, not universal standard, therefore, I am trying to convey that I may turn out to be wrong, mistaken in the end- but even kindness represented in a brutal and blunt fashion wouldn't work well for me. Perhaps it works for some other people, I can't deny that possibility. Her reactions to my misunderstanding her volunteering to lexigram my DOB and my username intimidated me.

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Yes I was indeed sarcastic!

- She admitted that she was being sarcastic.

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B) fayte.m admitted her seeming brutal, blunt, and being sarcastic, while didn't appear to want to change those. She is entitled to how she wants to represent herself to others; while I admitted some of my vices, but I also said I'm going to try changing them.

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But here is what you admitted to DFD:

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Noreen,

It was without questions dishonorable of me to pretend I was some Kellie Stevenson character, a Piscean and from some other country. I didn't really expect response from you, and by the time I realized you had posted in "Who's who at LL?", you had already edited, to be more specific, deleted the contents of your post. So I have no idea what you said in that post. You don't have to talk to me. It would be perfectly understandable that what I did disgusted you. It would probably surprise me if you were not upset. I would be if someone else treated me like this. Shame on me. But I'm not begging for your sympathy. On the contrary, I've been trying to say that it's only perfectly normal that you don't like me etc.

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Here you admitted that you deliberately made up a story regarding a brain tumor and dying on a public forum and yet on a public forum you did not expect a response?????

Since you made up a story like this in a deliberate attempt at soliciting a compassionate response from others in the past, DFD, how do you expect us to believe that what you said about your parents, about your thoughts of suicide or anything else that you say is the truth? I do not believe you to be stupid, DFD, as you sound rather intelligent, and only a very stupid person would not expect to get any response to a story like a brain tumor on a public forum on the internet. So I do not believe that you did not expect a response. In fact it sounds like this is how you get your entertainment by duping caring people and then laughing at them and coming back and picking them apart. This only verifies to me that you are just another internet troll getting their kicks out of starting trouble with people on the internet or making them feel foolish or hurting them. Yes, you are sick but I doubt seriously that you are bi-polar or have any other diagnosed mental illness. At any rate you have pretty much destroyed your credibility around LL now so maybe it is time to get a new screen name and start with a new farce.

It is not the ones like Noreen or Fayte or Lia or others who believed you and from the kindness and compassion in their hearts tried to help you in their own ways who need to be made to feel bad here. It is you who should feel bad about duping them and hurting them on purpose, DFD.

posted September 23, 2006 11:09 PM         

Move forward..

posted September 23, 2006 11:41 PM         

Going to be a bit rough on you here with this ,Lotus but I am sure that you know that dwelling on the past is something you have done also. Not long ago you brought something up on a GU thread that you thought I said ( which I didn't even say ) and threw that in my face out of the blue.

posted September 24, 2006 10:20 AM         

Lots of LOve to EveryOne...

posted September 24, 2006 10:51 AM         

I just would like to say that I may be being a bit harsh on you, DFD. I could be wrong regarding you having diagnosed illnesses. If that is the case I apologize for being so harsh in my judgment of the situation but I think you can understand what would make me think these things.

If you do have diagnosed mental conditions over which you have little control it is a very bad situation that you have created for yourself here. The same situation as the fable of the little boy who cried wolf too many times. What I mean is there may come a time when you really need help and no one is going to believe you. At any rate what I am saying is that what you have done here may in the long run hurt you more than anyone else, DFD.

I have always been reluctant to offer any help on the internet to someone who has mental problems other than to advise them to go see a therapist or find someone in their offline life to talk to about their feelings. I am not a professional therapist so I fear I might give the wrong advice or say the wrong thing. Though you state that you didn't like Fayte's manner of helping you, she does this all the time in her offline life ministering to people who others would be hesitant to approach. I felt throughout your posts that you were in good hands with Fayte as she knew what she was doing.

I was criticized by a person here for saying on my brother in laws suicide thread that it had always been my thought that only cowards commit suicide as it takes a whole lot more courage to live life than take it away. In his case though he did not have any mental illnesses or physical illnesses that contributed to his suicide. However, one night I happened on this friend on the internet on a private message program we talked on who was sitting there at the computer with gun in hand. We talked for hours and knowing his past and how much he had changed his life from what it was to what it was at this time, I told him that suicide is for cowards and you have proven that you are no coward by the strength you had in changing your life around to the point it is now. Of all that I said to him that night it was that which changed his mind and he told me so the next day.

posted September 24, 2006 05:45 PM         

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

posted September 25, 2006 01:12 AM         

Before all this happened with your words to Fayte I had no doubt that you were telling the truth. In my mind I cannot fathom why anyone would come on the internet and tell others lies on a public forum. I normally trust people, sometimes to my detriment, unless they give me reason not to trust them.

The point of my post was not to call you a liar but that I no longer trust anything you say and I think that many others here at LL who read these threads will not be able to trust you in the future. Trust is very valuable and when a person gains the trust of others it should be cherished. Because once trust has been betrayed and lost it is very hard to gain it back. Trust is necessary in any type of relationship.

It's admirable that you admitted to lying to Noreen on the threads here. But you never gave your reason for making up a lie like that. And really though you said that you understand why she doesn't like you, if memory serves me right, you never once said that you were sorry or explained why you would tell people a lie like that.