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D for Defiant
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posted September 25, 2006 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message

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silverstone
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posted September 25, 2006 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
D,

We are only trying to understand you. Do you really think deleting your post will help? Do you think being unfair to Fayte after she has tried to help you, not to mention starting a thread to let her know your disappointment will help us understand you? Do you think that perhaps Mirandee has a reason for saying what she did?


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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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Mirandee
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posted September 25, 2006 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Silverstone. Some very good points in what you said.

DFD, thank you for explaining some things. I did read those threads you mentioned. I followed them but had nothing to add to what I felt was the comfort and advice that you were getting from more people than just Fayte. I also stated in one of my posts here why I personally am reluctant to offer my advice to people in the situation that you expressed on your threads.

The term "troll" is just an expression that is used here at LL to describe people who take different screen names and whose only purpose seems to be to start trouble on the threads and attack others personally. The term was not begun my me but seems an apt description to those types of people so I picked it up. It is not used here at LL in the dictionary definition of a troll. Except maybe in the childhood story of "Billy Goat Gruff" where the troll lived under the bridge and attacked anyone crossing the bridge. So in that sense it might very well be an apt description as used here at LL.

I have pretty much stated all I have to say here on this thread. Sorry that you have stated that out of all that I have had to say here to you the only thing you will never forget is the troll reference. Selective memory. Also sorry to hear that you are not concerned with what others think of you. I don't really believe that to be true only for the fact that we all want to be in some degree accepted and thought well of by others.

Though do try to remember this along with the troll statement, DFD. I don't define you, DFD. No one defines you no matter what they may think of you at any given time. YOU define you. God defines you. The rest of us only have our opinions and judgments based on your actions and words and those actions and words at any given time are only one small facet of the complexity that makes up DFD as a person. Frozen in time.

Take anything you feel to be good and true from anything anyone says to you, cherish it for it is worth and disregard all the rest. As what we have said here on this thread is only one small facet of what we are as persons too.

I wish you luck and any happiness you can find in this world and I wish you success in your therapy.

And Silverstone is right. We are truly trying to understand you and understand your actions. Maybe unfairly at times, maybe fumbling our way through the maze, maybe ineptly in our attempts at helping, but ultimately I think we all have good intentions. Unfortunately on many occasions the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Tis the human condition. What can I say? Good luck and all the best to you, DFD.

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posted September 26, 2006 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Mirandee.

D, again, as you can see we are only trying to understand you. I understand that you have problems but everyone else has problems also. It seems to me that you have some growing up to do. It is possible that you come from an abusive family, or maybe your parents told you harsh things to keep you in your place. You are an adult now and you need to realize that it serves you no good to act in this manner which is childish and only shows that you want to gain attention. Again, the reason I write this is because it makes no sense to me for you to act this way. I've read many threads of yours where I find you highly intelligent. Please understand that I am trying to help you. Offending others and pushing people away is not helpful and it certainly does not justify your behavior. I also understand that you are seeking professional help, I think that it's good to take your development into another plane.

Wishing you the best,
Silvertone

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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guy_me_19
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posted September 26, 2006 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for guy_me_19     Edit/Delete Message
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fayte.m
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posted September 26, 2006 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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sue g
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posted September 26, 2006 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
guyme

Are you asking me a question and if so, what did you want to know exactly?

Btw, Mirandee and I are siamese twins and were separated at birth...

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Mannu
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posted September 26, 2006 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
DFD, This is so unfair for Fayte. Your post is so prominent and guess still confusing people.

Being Defiant is good. But taking advantage of an issue by walking over someone is bad.

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sue g
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posted September 26, 2006 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Wouldnt it seem fairer to address some one by email....and then if they dont respond to that, only then thrash it out on a public forum...

Its not nice being attacked or having your character "blackened" in a public place and so unnecessary when we have private emails to use..

I know how that feels...it has happened to me!

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Mirandee
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posted September 26, 2006 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
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Btw, Mirandee and I are siamese twins and were separated at birth...

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fayte.m
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posted September 26, 2006 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message


Lovers?(from another thread. That was funny too! But no way!) Twins? Never in an eternity!

Mirandee and Sue are nothing alike!
Love to you dear Mirandee!

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fayte.m
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posted September 26, 2006 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Mannu
Silverstone
Mirandee
Thank you!
Many Blessings to you all!
quote from sue g:
quote:
Wouldnt it seem fairer to address some one by email....and then if they dont respond to that, only then thrash it out on a public forum...
Its not nice being attacked or having your character "blackened" in a public place and so unnecessary when we have private emails to use..

I know how that feels...it has happened to me!


I agree.
I too know how that feels "as you know",
and not just here at LL and on this thread.

But your last quote:

quote:
I know how that feels...it has happened to me!

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but it sounds like you are still referring to the KS business, where I apologized but you refused to. Drop it please. We both agreed to
Well, at least here....

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sue g
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posted September 27, 2006 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Lovers from another thread....hahaha....yes wasnt that very funny.....??? Tee hee hee.....

But none of us know whether that was true or not....do we?

Stranger things have happened at sea....

Best to try and keep an open mind hey guys?

I may ask Lotus...she is (to my mind) the most psychic person on this board....I wonder if she could pick up on the connection......hmmmmm.....interesting!

And if there aint nothing there....its still good craic!!!!


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sue g
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posted September 27, 2006 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yeah....

I am still not sure what you wanted me to answer guyme. maybe I will email you....

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D for Defiant
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D for Defiant
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lotusheartone
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posted September 28, 2006 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
D..I have tried to reach out to you..humbly, I think..my sister is sick..and is on Bilifie,,that is how it sounds..anyway..I do not think anyone is mentally ill..I think it's about karma..and when you are channeled..the information..it is filtered..through you..

only you can figure ,you out..that's all I have ever preached..only you can
"KNow thySelf"

D..I find you very intelligent..and I find you very diligent..hard working..
You will defy this. ...


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Lialei
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posted September 28, 2006 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
Well, whether you want to believe it or not,
Fayte did care about you. Very much.
She expressed concern about you to me several times in private and many more times all over this site! It was genuine humble caring for someone she thought was truly in pain and needed kindness and understanding.
Which is why she does NOT deserve this ongoing character assasination. It's completely unfair to her. And I'm very sad to think of how she's probably sleeping right now, and will rise to see this first thing in the morning.

Fayte, we believe in you and know.

I cared for you too. But I can see now how that was also completely meaningless to you.
whatever.

out of here....

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Lialei
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posted September 28, 2006 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
ARRRRGGGH.

I think I need a break from this place.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 28, 2006 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
And I will state this..No One should ever speak for another. ...

Only you are you..No One can ever be you..and to allow others to speak for you..
is truly..well..I can't say what I want to say..so I will say


nothing!

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Lialei
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posted September 28, 2006 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, surely, oh Swame

Guess I should just stay in my personal protective bubble and say nothing, right? As long as it's not me, who cares.
After all, apathy is what makes the world go 'round.

goodnight.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 28, 2006 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
those who throw stones..should not live in glass houses. ...

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posted September 28, 2006 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
DFORDEFIANT,

What's going on?? Fayte is simply very direct. I have read the threads and frankly I only see her being helpful. I don't know if maybe you just now simply decided you don't like her approach and maybe you're taking this into another level. It looks clearly to me that you seeked her advice and Fayte was simply being helpful. It looks to me that you are doing this for attention, as mostly everyone here, including Fayte, has explained this to you. EXTREMELY unfair don't you think? Again, I think this will pass and hopefully you will reconsider; I still believe there is goodness in you Don't push people away who care about you, DFORDEFIANT. This is cold, but I know Fayte will understand.

Fayte... We believe in you

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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D for Defiant
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posted September 28, 2006 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message

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silverstone
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posted September 28, 2006 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus your response to Lia

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And I will state this..No One should ever speak for another. ...
Only you are you..No One can ever be you..and to allow others to speak for you..
is truly..well..I can't say what I want to say..so I will say nothing!

Is it wrong for someone to defend another friend, especially when an injustice is being made??

quote:
those who throw stones..should not live in glass houses. ...

Ok, I understand this is an analogy, but how the "hell" is Lia throwing stones when she says, "After all, apathy is what makes the world go 'round." or "Fayte did care about you. Very much.
She expressed concern about you to me several times in private and many more times all over this site! It was genuine humble caring for someone she thought was truly in pain and needed kindness and understanding."

Ummm, your comment does not make any sense

Just because we understand DFORDEFIANT does not mean that we are going to condone her insults on Fayte (even as diplomatically as she puts them)

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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