posted September 28, 2006 03:03 AM         

I just want you to know that I am very upfront and direct so in no way am I trying to attack you.

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I was simply making clarification.

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That's understandable, what I do not understand is you opening a new thread to address Fayte, it only demonstrates you wanting everyone to know Fayte's true colors. Actions speak louder than words.

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I meant that she did not care about how I would feel about her potent reactions to my mild misunderstanding, not even disagreement, about her lexigramming.

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She was simply being direct. Not everyone is Curly Sue, DFORDEFIANT (Ok, that was an expression )

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posted September 28, 2006 03:07 AM         

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I did not mean that all the while she did not care for me, was not concerned about me- that was NOT what I meant. When I said she didn't care, I was speaking of her attitude toward her own lexigramming and her over-reactingness.

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Anyone who misinterpret what I said was not paying close enough attention to what I had written.

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posted September 28, 2006 03:08 AM         

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Speaking of the word "attention", do you folks think that now I'm "still seeking attention by starting this and plus all the 'character assassination'"? Fine, go on and believe that I crave for such obnoxious attention.

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In addition, I have vowed to refrain from using vulgarity/profanity at LL from then on. Along with that, also other hostile ways of verbal expressions.

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Time will tell if I can keep my promise or not, then you will see if I can make such a drastic change or I was just telling yet "another lie".

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Meanwhile, I would also expect others at LL not to use strong, subjective, sentimental hostile ways of verbal expressions as well. But first I will try to prove to you all that I am going to be far more diplomatic from now on.

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Time will also tell if I will continue to complain about Fayte pointlessly or just knock it off now, since I just said I'm done with my clarification.

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posted September 25, 2006 02:21 AM

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.........Fayte had indeed been helpful beyond measurement; she had without questions said a great deal of encouraging, positive, inspiring, kind and loving words, these I would not deny........

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>>>>>>>>>I thank you DfD.

My Lexigramming for you was NOT based on my own (as you term it; selfish passions) for lexigrams.
Firstly, if it were for Lexigram attention, I would have posted it at Lexigram Magic not another forum.
Secondly;
I use Lexigrams to divine or understand or help folks.
Nothing selfish there.
AND....
There are folks on the web who charge $75 to $500 for what I do.
I have yet to charge for a Lexigram.
Maybe I should start. Seems some folks only value what they pay $$$ for, not a FREE kindness. Maybe I'd get respect if I charged.
It is time consuming and I did not have to take the time to do it.
BTW.....
I dropped everything when I heard of your suicide thread. Folks e-mailed me asking me to help you if I could. I had other plans and dropped my plans immediately to help you. Fortunately my offline friends and my spouse understand me in this.
I often stop my plans or change them on a moments notice to help someone, for free.
By listening,talking, writing, hugging, lexigramming, buying them a needed meal and yes...even giving away the coat on my own back....whatever. I get nothing in return but rarely. The last thing I got in return was a book. I expect nor ask for anything for myself. Some folks I never even see again. Many are strangers.
If that is seen as bad or stupid, sorry, I can only be myself....so go ahead; like me, hate me, or love me, I cannot please everyone.
One more note on lexigramming.
IF I were a show off I could FLOOD Lexigram Magic with hundreds of Lexigrams already done before I joined LL.

posted September 28, 2006 09:29 AM         

So that is what I do. They saved me and my life.

I hope that clarifies a little of who I am and why I do what I do.

posted September 28, 2006 10:19 AM         

People who truly know you know what you are really like, Fayte and they are the ones that matter. Those with eyes to see on these threads also know the kind of person you are.

Any time that evil sees goodness it will seek to destroy it, Fayte. The evil of this world hates goodness in anyone and unfortunately it can always easily find people to work through.

What I said here will be twisted around to say that I called DFD evil. No, I spoke of the evil of this world and was only stating a fact. That is how it goes and anyone with any kind of spirituality knows this to be true.

Keep fighting the good fight, Fayte and you defeat evil. You do that naturally all the time just by being the kind of person that you are and possessing the love you have in your heart for others in need.

posted September 28, 2006 01:00 PM         

this is like therapy..for the emotions
and feelings..and conflicts that happen...

we are all in the same boat..
Planet Earth..

posted September 28, 2006 01:06 PM         

I'm not here to cause any trouble or make any peace, and while I may not agree with everything you and others have done here, I do want you to know that you are not alone in your perceptions.

posted September 28, 2006 03:52 PM         

"I once picked up a woman from a garbage dump and she was burning with fever; she was in her last days and her only lament was: ‘My son did this to me.’ I begged her: You must forgive your son. In a moment of madness, when he was not himself, he did a thing he regrets. Be a mother to him, forgive him. It took me a long time to make her say: ‘I forgive my son.’ Just before she died in my arms, she was able to say that with a real forgiveness. She was not concerned that she was dying. The breaking of the heart was that her son did not want her. This is something you and I can understand."

"You and I, we are the Church, no? We have to share with our people. Suffering today is because people are hoarding, not giving, not sharing.
Jesus made it very clear. 'Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, you do it to me.'
Give a glass of water, you give it to me. Receive a little
child, you receive me. "

Fayte, People will criticize you for what you do and if you choose to do nothing they will criticize you for that. So you may as well follow your heart and be yourself and do as you feel is the right thing to do. And you are doing that.

posted September 28, 2006 04:45 PM         

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Fayte, People will criticize you for what you do and if you choose to do nothing they will criticize you for that. So you may as well follow your heart and be yourself and do as you feel is the right thing to do. And you are doing that.

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And on that note of forgiveness from Mother Teresa, I personally forgive all those who criticize me. I know you do too, Fayte

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>>>Yes I do.
It still hurts. But yes I have. Anyone talking to me off forum or in my offline life knows this about me.
I still feel upset and sad, of course I do. Anyone would. But I understand and have compassion.
God knows the truth.
No one wants to be critisized or hated. But we cannot please everyone.

Lotus I agree.
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~*^*Today is Thursday September 28th. 2006.*^*~

posted September 29, 2006 03:02 AM         

Yes criticism is not a very nice thing......look at the above and the horrible connotatoin behind it,,,you talk of being warned and "motives".

That was a horrible thing you wrote about me and not true....and if I had allowed it to be, very hurtful.

Anyway I want to know WHO warned you...was it people here?

I think when something so provocotive as this is posted on a pubic forum, I have a right to know...

WHY did you do this when you knew you could have said this to me in a private email. You did exactly what D for D did to you...attacked in a public place...there is no need.

I wouldnt air something so "private" in a publice place, its quite cruel and totally unnecessary.

posted September 29, 2006 03:17 AM         

Sue.. I don't think Fayte was referring her comment meaning you, as when she stated this she was directing it to you, and why now are you addressing your concerns after so many posts later? I know this is between you and Fayte but it just doesn't seem that she was directing it to you. Here's the post:

fayte.m
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posted September 22, 2006 06:52 PM
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Then we should always be careful who we place our trust in should we not?
>>>What that has to do with DFD I do not see
But since You brought that "old issue" up "again" Sue........
Yeah,
I AGREE!
I was warned by several folks when an overly friendly bubbly person wanted to be friends.
But I fell for their charm.
Yes, the person is very charming and persuasive. I think perhaps they really do want to be sweet and nice.
I hope so. But I will not trust that type again. Too hard to read their real true motives easily.
Seems they had only wanted to be friends with me to get to another person
Then that person who I then trusted naively for a long time went about and tried maliciously to turn my other friends against me when I refused to give them the gossip they wanted.
Seems I was not a good friend anymore to them because I refused to rat out other friends and the person they were trying to find out about in particular.
They are still angry with me. Even though I have left them alone as they asked.
It seems some folks have widely different Ideas from the norm, of what a real friend is.
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fayte.m
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Registered: Mar 2005
posted September 22, 2006 06:58 PM
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And of course to remember only offer help where its truly wanted or asked for....
>>>Not sure what this has to do with DFD either.

But since You brought up that "old issue" again Sue;
here goes....
Posting ones troubles on a public forum IS implied consent. Otherwise it is merely a personal Blog page with no reply option.
If you are referring to that person I trusted unwisely....
How does one know when help is truly wanted...especially when it was asked for many many times over a long period of time and thanked profusely for?
Generally when a person helps or gives advice and the other person asked many times for feedback/help/advice......and then the person asking goes and says bless you, thank you, you are a true friend...over and over and over for a long time....
Well all the signs/signals that the help was asked for were Clearly in place, and the gratitude abundant, and that person repeatedly coming back for more for a long time...
Well to anyone I would think....
It sure did appear asked for and desperately wanted. Until I refused to go too far with what their agenda really was about.
Maybe the alternate agenda was not conceived until later. I really do not know. Maybe the initial friendship overtures were sincere. They seemed sincere. Maybe not...since I was warned about that person. But I preferred to find out on my own rather than listen to the warnings of others.

I shall heed other folks advice from hereon before giving my heartfelt self to another. So my apologies to new folks here who have tried to get closer to me offline.
Thank you for understanding my hesitancy nowadays.
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posted September 29, 2006 03:39 AM         

I know you are a good soul and trying to help, but you dont really know the whole story.

Fayte aired things about me on public forums that were of a highly sensitive and personal nature, this is something you and others wouldnt know.

So thanks for your well intentioned post, but to be honest you would have to know more to understand.

And in answer to yer question? The reason I am addressing it now is to point out that at times, as we do to others, we have done to ourselves....sort of a karmic lesson really.

Its wonderful to help our friends...but you really need to know BOTH sides before commenting. I was betrayed on a public forum (and this is something you and others wouldnt know about). It happened a while ago.

Your intentions are admirable and I know you think highly of Fayte, but as I said, you dont know all the details.

Love

posted September 29, 2006 09:33 AM         

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I thought she agreed to Peace on this page: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002319-3.html
Sue g has jumped to conclusions before, wrongly assuming things were about her and taking them personally. Why? Only she knows.....and she attacked me and attacked my friends repeatedly for several months to date, for defending me. Why she is acting this way out of the clear blue is strange. I am still trying to understand and find out why. Some possibilities?
See these links: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001994-3.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001994-4.html

posted September 29, 2006 09:46 AM         

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we can not forget..but we can certainly forgive..come full circle..with LOve. ...

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Hopefully that can happen here too.
Lots of misunderstandings.

~*^*Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation. But deliver us from evil. (Book of Common Prayer (1559)*^*~

Quote from Sue's post quoting me:
"I was warned by several folks when an overly friendly bubbly person wanted to be friends.
But I fell for their charm.
Yes, the person was/is very charming and persuasive. I think perhaps they really did want to be sweet and nice.
I hope so. But I will not trust that type again. Too hard to read their real true motives easily"
Quote from Sue herself:

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"Yes criticism is not a very nice thing......look at the above and the horrible connotatoin behind it,,,you talk of being warned and "motives".

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"That was a horrible thing you wrote about me and not true....and if I had allowed it to be, very hurtful."

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"Anyway I want to know WHO warned you...was it people here?"

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PS. Sue knows I do not treat death and funerals the same as she does. Believing in reincanation and afterlife, I feel differently and do not "do" the funeral thing in her way.
So perhaps she is angry at me because like her sister who she is angry with for not attending the funeral of their mother, she sees me as a terrible monster too for my personal feelings about funerals and all.
Which due to her grief I have not brought up until now out of respect for her suffering.
My body without my soul would not be the real me.(nor anyone's body the real them).
I would not want a funeral and mourners over it.
So perhaps that adds to her anger at me.
Nuff said.
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"And of course....you can talk to who you want Fayte...Jesus.....true friends dont let ANYONE become betweem them do they?
If I have a problem with that, then yes its MY problem, not yours"

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Dealing with a newfound sobriety is also an added stress with the loss of her mother only 4 months later.

posted September 29, 2006 12:05 PM         

I felt like this long before my mother died.

I just want the truth out...

If you made those statements about another person, you would have said so, but you didnt...you didnt immediatley say after I brought this up "oh no sue, this wasnt about you".

You said: "Seems they had only wanted to be friends with me to get to another person"

Yes that was about ME....please be truthful....you know and I know what that is about!!!!

You were talking of me...and then you try to wriggle out of things...I have seen you do this many a time in the past Fayte. I have received many an apology from you by email because of your irrational behaviour. I appreciated your humility in doing this too.

In actual fact I have felt lighter in one respect since my mother died and stronger too....more able to speak out and "air" my views...becos of my strong belief in the afterlife I am being helped by my mother..!! I feel calmer and more centred. Dont feel the need to shout or get angry....she is guiding me. But I do feel more of a need to seek truth.

You have again missed the point.

And why in the name of God you would want to COUNT posts...{like you used to do with Lotus}, is beyond me...that is such an irrational way to behave and creepy, like you are having to prove your point. Why put up links to what I have said....very silly to my mind. Dont worry I am not tempted to do this back, for one reason I wouldnt know where to start. and I know in my heart I am talking the truth...I dont need this type of "proof".

And I would be grateful if you could go back and read all my posts that you've collected and you will see that amongst them I never mentioned that my sister didnt attend my mother's funeral...she DID...(what I did say is she didnt attend the internment the next day).

No Faye this has nothing to do with my mother, my father, my sister, the tinker, the taylor, the candlestick maker, its to do with you.....and your constant need to draw attention to yerself in the hope that others will take pity on you....

Its about truth and justice and doing the right thing.

You are very quick to defend yerself, but I rarely see you apologise for your failings, unless you are pushed into a corner..

I wont say "nuff said"....cos I cant promise I have said enough...for now.

posted September 29, 2006 12:17 PM         

Well its something that one of Faye's friends said to me a few days ago, (Mirandee), who encouraged me to air things...and she was right....!!!

So I am doing, and I will keep airing until I feel I am all "aired out"

And although Mirandee chooses to treat me as "non existent" (and that is fine) I still want to thank her for this very valuable piece of advice...

I wont, like some, resort to abusive language or name calling,,,,but I shall put my point across,,

All in good time I hear my mother say...and just two or three days ago I heard her say "Go on our Susan it is your time...stand up and be counted...dont be walked all over like I was"....

So that is two pieces of very good advice I was given this week...thanks Mirandee and thanks Mum....

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