posted September 29, 2006 05:09 PM         

I think we must overlook all such trespasses against us many times. They become stumbling blocks to us.

The world is indeed becoming a sad place to live in. Things like ADD is becoming common. Some psycho takes gun to school and starts shooting.

If one's heart is full of love, our behavior will not be like them.

DFD, whats wrong in starting friendship knowing the other person has common ground.
It is ofcourse you who posted your date of birth. Looks like you only want to talk and talk and not listen. That will not take you much further.

SueG, Yeah air all opinions. Things return to normal after you vent out everything inside. But a man is often judged by the words they speak.

I think everyone has a inflated ego. The more an adult we are the more inflated the ego is. Jesus said pointing to a child, we must be like them to enter the kingdom. Not an adult, nor a high school kid, but a child. Playful, innocent, forgiving, loving, mysterious..bubbly

posted September 29, 2006 10:39 PM         

Jesus can't teach pscychology to Peter, so may be he used the term Satan to define our ego.

Everyone has eyes, mind(if you will, i do know how to translate the original word), brain and an ego.

Jung was born much later

posted September 29, 2006 11:47 PM         

Because then he is not God but a Man. The ego controls him.

posted September 30, 2006 05:57 AM         

Thanks Mannu!

I actually feel that not to point out that someone is lying about you on a public forum isnt something to be judged for!!!

Its actually standing up and saying "this isnt true"! Why wouldnt I point this out...it may help others in the future..

Thanks

posted October 03, 2006 11:12 PM         

It's a difficult call sometimes, knowing when to say something or not when you can feel the anguish of a friend...especially when they've already been through the ringer. I was avoiding this thread, trying to keep it between those directly involved. Sometimes when you defend a friend, you learn the hard way that it only plays right into the hand of the other's agenda.
"I saw the hole...I walked down a different street" Like that.

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When your heart knows the truth that intention was pure,
there's not much to need to defend.
Because in defending, all you are really worrying about is how other people are going to see you.
I think if they don't see to begin with...then it shouldn't matter. It's best to keep heart and mind on those that do.
And just be your True self, and hope time reveals and heals.

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posted October 04, 2006 01:49 AM         

Why did you edit your posts ?? It makes everyone look bad? do you all agree? You did start this thread. So, you wanted everyone to reply and then you delete your posts fortunately, I saved most of them, I had a feeling you were going to do that, especially as you mantioned it yourself.

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posted October 04, 2006 02:11 AM         

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D for DefiantKnowflake Posts: 785From: Registered: May 2006 posted September 25, 2006 02:21 AM

Mirandee, I don't care what you call me or term the situation. I don't care at all. Whether you call me a liar or a troll- by the way, I have checked the word in my dictionary.

According to your memory I did not say sorry to Noreen. The fact is she found out about it through a post I gave her in Astrology forum as an apology. Therefore, technically speaking, I did say sorry to her. However, that's not even the point- just because I apologized to her nothing could ever condone or justify my wrongdoing and my offenses.

I lied to Noreen about my name, my astrological information, my email address, my background- as for the brain tumor, I cannot recall precisely what I wrote to her about the illness, but at that time I did believe I was having a brain tumor. I had been seeing specialists of three different divisions, and I am not going to make the same mistake by casually talking about "how many" specialists I personally know- my mother considers the number of psychiatrists I have met, among others things regarding my psychiatric treatment- a horrendous disgrace. And now I'm going to try to stop talking about my mother so excessively as well, since she's virtually out of my life now and since you won't believe it, think it's made up, melodramatic nonsense anyway. Two years ago I did have neurologic problems of unknown origins, hence the headaches, and the brain tumor "saga". I hate to talk about all this again because by doing so I'm only making myself look uglier and further consume my energy. I can even suggest that you consider that I might have factitious disorder, or Munchausen syndrome, if you think I'm faking my disease. Perhaps it's better for me that you don't believe I have what I had said I have. Or you can categorize me as a pathological liar. Or just a petty criminal who perversively craves attention on the Internet. Whatever you say.

The thread about my recent "sensational theatrical stuff about me and my parents rant" is still there, and so far my initial replies to the people who got back to my post first are still there, including the one for Fayte but I did not address to her in that post. The contents of that post have not been edited, nothing have been added or omitted. If you read that post and if you understand what that post said, then it proves why I started this thread and said those ungrateful things to Fayte did not happen overnight. You may have a look at that post while it's still there- I'm going to delete it very soon.

Fayte had indeed been helpful beyond measurement; she had without questions said a great deal of encouraging, positive, inspiring, kind and loving words, these I would not deny. But as to why I did what I have done and brought about my own downfall, I think I have addressed to the reasons in my earlier posts here.

"Trust". No one has to trust me any longer, either here or elsewhere. Maybe it is better that none of you trust me. I am not going to speak more nonsense and expect you, or anyone else to think what I would have said makes any sense. I am not going to explain myself this time.

Where I live, I can only see one psychiatrist at a time, and he would have a fixed schedule for every outpatient. I can only see him as frequent as only once a week, and only fifteen minutes per session. Most outpatients see their psychiatrists once a month. Our sessions generally consists of a brief interview and prescribtion, and no psychotherapy. Since this April I haven't been undergoing any psychotherapy, because my psychiatrists have assessed me not suitable for psychotherapy for the time being. Where I live, no outpatient can telephone their own psychiatrists when there's an emergency. When people end up at the psychiatric ER, they are usually sent there only to be hospitalized. Here's the reason why I had been "promoting my made up stories" here on the Internet- had my psychiatrist been so readily available to me, I would not have been doing these silly things here at LL, and you are free to call this a big, fat lie as well. As you wish. You can call all these made up sensational stories- my mother resents the fact that I've been to the psychiatric ER too many times, been hospitalized too many times, and know too many psychiatrists- you think I enjoy my morbid vanity by telling these dramatic "stories", but my mother thinks all this is not only my own sordid history, but also the entire family's sordid history, and all right, you are free to continue to call me manipulating LL as "my own blog" and force people to buy my "sensational stories". This surely will be deleted soon. I don't see any point in explaining all this. I'm making yet one more mistake. I don't expect you to buy anything I've just said, and I don't expect your trust. I no longer care if you trust, or you will trust me. Any of you.

A troll is, in Scandinavian stories, either a large evil creature that looks like an ugly man or a small and friendly one who tricks people.

I will remember that you said I am only another troll. I will never forget that you said I am nothing but a troll, and so on and so forth. Never. And I am going to delete this post soon.

You can keep calling me atention-seeking, whatever- that I am a troll. You said that. I will remember that. I will.

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silverstone Knowflake Posts: 977From: Registered: Mar 2006 posted September 25, 2006 03:22 AM

D, We are only trying to understand you. Do you really think deleting your post will help? Do you think being unfair to Fayte after she has tried to help you, not to mention starting a thread to let her know your disappointment will help us understand you? Do you think that perhaps Mirandee has a reason for saying what she did? ------------------The only other sound's the sweepOf easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark and deep.But I have promises to keep,And miles to go before I sleep,And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~ IP: Logged

MirandeeKnowflake Posts: 1685From: A Galaxy Far, Far AwayRegistered: Sep 2004 posted September 25, 2006 01:54 PM

Thank you Silverstone. Some very good points in what you said. DFD, thank you for explaining some things. I did read those threads you mentioned. I followed them but had nothing to add to what I felt was the comfort and advice that you were getting from more people than just Fayte. I also stated in one of my posts here why I personally am reluctant to offer my advice to people in the situation that you expressed on your threads.

The term "troll" is just an expression that is used here at LL to describe people who take different screen names and whose only purpose seems to be to start trouble on the threads and attack others personally. The term was not begun my me but seems an apt description to those types of people so I picked it up. It is not used here at LL in the dictionary definition of a troll. Except maybe in the childhood story of "Billy Goat Gruff" where the troll lived under the bridge and attacked anyone crossing the bridge. So in that sense it might very well be an apt description as used here at LL.

I have pretty much stated all I have to say here on this thread. Sorry that you have stated that out of all that I have had to say here to you the only thing you will never forget is the troll reference. Selective memory. Also sorry to hear that you are not concerned with what others think of you.

I don't really believe that to be true only for the fact that we all want to be in some degree accepted and thought well of by others. Though do try to remember this along with the troll statement, DFD.

I don't define you, DFD. No one defines you no matter what they may think of you at any given time. YOU define you. God defines you. The rest of us only have our opinions and judgments based on your actions and words and those actions and words at any given time are only one small facet of the complexity that makes up DFD as a person. Frozen in time. Take anything you feel to be good and true from anything anyone says to you, cherish it for it is worth and disregard all the rest. As what we have said here on this thread is only one small facet of what we are as persons too. I wish you luck and any happiness you can find in this world and I wish you success in your therapy. And Silverstone is right. We are truly trying to understand you and understand your actions. Maybe unfairly at times, maybe fumbling our way through the maze, maybe ineptly in our attempts at helping, but ultimately I think we all have good intentions. Unfortunately on many occasions the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Tis the human condition. What can I say? Good luck and all the best to you, DFD. IP: Logged

silverstone Knowflake Posts: 977From: Registered: Mar 2006 posted September 26, 2006 12:29 AM

Thanks, Mirandee. D, again, as you can see we are only trying to understand you. I understand that you have problems but everyone else has problems also. It seems to me that you have some growing up to do. It is possible that you come from an abusive family, or maybe your parents told you harsh things to keep you in your place. You are an adult now and you need to realize that it serves you no good to act in this manner which is childish and only shows that you want to gain attention. Again, the reason I write this is because it makes no sense to me for you to act this way. I've read many threads of yours where I find you highly intelligent. Please understand that I am trying to help you. Offending others and pushing people away is not helpful and it certainly does not justify your behavior. I also understand that you are seeking professional help, I think that it's good to take your development into another plane.

Wishing you the best,Silvertone

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guy_me_19 Knowflake Posts: 83From: Registered: Jun 2005 posted September 26, 2006 01:10 PM

To Mirandee/Sue G (and to her/him alone):hi! i m a very gud frend of fayte bu i wuldn want to tell mi identity. Someone mentioned (DFD i guess) that fayte is gifted and talented and all..bu inspite of mi being her gud frend i dont know a thing about her!only she lexigrammed mi name some days back..so please tell me more about her talents because i m intrigued! i mean why wuld she herself talk about it.. so instead of waiting for Time to tell me about it i call on you. DFD please don't reply this post!a 20 yr ol frm india!reply soon!IP: Logged

fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 5785From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~ Registered: Mar 2005 posted September 26, 2006 02:44 PM

I have e-mailed you.What is up? Mirandee is my friend. And by the way.... Mirandee and Sue g are NOT the same person. Thank you for caring. IP: Logged

sue g Knowflake Posts: 6383From: former land of the leprechaunRegistered: Sep 2004 posted September 26, 2006 02:51 PM

guyme Are you asking me a question and if so, what did you want to know exactly? Btw, Mirandee and I are siamese twins and were separated at birth... IP: Logged

Mannu Knowflake Posts: 622From: Registered: Mar 2006 posted September 26, 2006 04:15 PM

DFD, This is so unfair for Fayte. Your post is so prominent and guess still confusing people. Being Defiant is good. But taking advantage of an issue by walking over someone is bad.IP: Logged

sue g Knowflake Posts: 6383From: former land of the leprechaunRegistered: Sep 2004 posted September 26, 2006 04:18 PM

Wouldnt it seem fairer to address some one by email....and then if they dont respond to that, only then thrash it out on a public forum... Its not nice being attacked or having your character "blackened" in a public place and so unnecessary when we have private emails to use.. I know how that feels...it has happened to me! IP: Logged

Mirandee Knowflake Posts: 1685From: A Galaxy Far, Far AwayRegistered: Sep 2004 posted September 26, 2006 06:17 PM

quote: Btw, Mirandee and I are siamese twins and were separated at birth... IP: Logged

fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 5785From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~ Registered: Mar 2005 posted September 26, 2006 06:39 PM

Lovers?(from another thread. That was funny too! But no way!) Twins? Never in an eternity! Mirandee and Sue are nothing alike!Love to you dear Mirandee! IP: Logged

fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 5785From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~ Registered: Mar 2005 posted September 26, 2006 09:09 PM

Mannu Silverstone Mirandee Thank you Many Blessings to you all! IP: Logged

sue g Knowflake Posts: 6383From: former land of the leprechaunRegistered: Sep 2004 posted September 27, 2006 05:03 AM

Lovers from another thread....hahaha....yes wasnt that very funny.....??? Tee hee hee..... But none of us know whether that was true or not....do we? Stranger things have happened at sea.... Best to try and keep an open mind hey guys? I may ask Lotus...she is (to my mind) the most psychic person on this board....I wonder if she could pick up on the connection......hmmmmm.....interesting! And if there aint nothing there....its still good craic!!!! IP: Logged

sue g Knowflake Posts: 6383From: former land of the leprechaunRegistered: Sep 2004 posted September 27, 2006 05:04 AM

Oh yeah.... I am still not sure what you wanted me to answer guyme. maybe I will email you.... IP: Logged

D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 785From: Registered: May 2006 posted September 27, 2006 11:00 PM

Right here and right now, I really do not intend to spawn more woundings; I think that would make what I have been doing in this thread officially a deliberate insult. I have caused more than enough mayhem, and I don't want more. However, for the record, here are the two links which I personally consider fundamental for better understanding the situation.

The following link is where I accidentally found Noreen in the Astrology forum, where I came forward to her, apologized to her and led her to the thread where I revealed my past innuendo: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010483.html

Which only serves as evidence, but NOT as rationalization or justification of my crime. Secondly, you people have asked me why I "suddenly" emerged such an unfair attack against Fayte. And this is the link where I first expressed my unpleasure; if you care to read it, it's in the post I sent onto here on September 8, at 2:02PM: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002305.html

Finally, the link below is where I posted a poem (which has been deleted for a few days), and where Fayte replied to me and volunteered to lexigram my personal information. Her two posts on August 14, at 10:09AM and 10:31AM respectively, simply shocked me. Because I found the way she verbalized herself with typed words quite aggressive. Please note that it took me four days to respond to her, which was the post I sent out on August 18 (which has also been deleted)- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/001353.html

In the link above, you can find her post in response to my August 18 post for her, whose first part has been quoted below. Again, I just found her really aggressive and self-defensive, while probably had unintentionally intimidated me, and I was truly taken aback-

fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 5751From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~ Registered: Mar 2005 posted August 18, 2006 05:04 PM

(quote Quote:First of all, I would like to apologize to you for misunderstanding the situation- that I thought you had combined my date of birth and my LL username, while in fact you never have. I am really sorry.>>>>No apologies needed.But I do not have a problem with COMBINING your names. I DO NOT go by Linda's rules. ANY name is lexigrammable. I do not care how many vowels you have. It makes no difference to me. You have them, I leave them. I never remove letters!Never. - The moment I read "No apologies needed", I just felt that she was still very upset about the whole thing, and this remark of hers made me more uncomfortable.

As though I had profoundly offended her by not comprehending her own lexigramming methods and that was a "serious offense".

fayte.mKnowflake Posts: 5770From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~ Registered: Mar 2005 posted September 21, 2006 08:51 AM

quote:I did the Lexigram things becauise I thought they could help and you seemed interested in Lexigrams too. My Lexigram passion was not meant as yelling. Just making firm points as succinctly as possible as to how I feel about Lexigrams.

fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 5770From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~ Registered: Mar 2005 posted September 23, 2006 08:03 AM

quote:That is another reason I get so cranked up about Lexigrams that I may seem to be yelling. Firstly I love them! Secondly...THEY ARE my MAIN mental exercise to keep my memory from degrading further and to try to retrain my fine memory again, like dates and all.So any yelling you took personally about lexigramming was not about you but my Lexigramming passion. repeated, emphasized quotes again: I did the Lexigram things becauise I thought they could help That is another reason I get so cranked up about Lexigrams that I may seem to be yelling. Firstly I love them!

Secondly...THEY ARE my MAIN mental exercise So any yelling you took personally about lexigramming was not about you but my Lexigramming passion. - So many of you have categorized me as taking lots of things personal while it's absolutely unwarranted. Sorry, but it was never my intention of posing myself as a lunatic with "sensational" diagonoses and "sensational" history.

Anyway, the point is, judging by the quotes above, Fayte indeed volunteer to lexigram my DOB and my username mostly for the sake of her own enjoyment, rather than "helping me", as I suggested by asking a question in one of the initial posts of mine in this thread- she probably didn't even think twice about whether I needed her lexigramming for me at that time. And it appears to me that she couldn't, and still can't care less about how I felt toward her reactions. She didn't care about how I would feel and how I felt, only about her own "passion for lexigramming". SHE DIDN'T CARE. quote:As far as my NOT willing or wanting to change my interpersonal commmunication skills and being sarcastic an brunt/brutal.Well you are dead wrong on your assessment of me there.In fact I have been working on that aspect of my self. - As a matter of fact, her endeavors of trying to soften her verbalization, so to speak, had been quite evident to me just days before I started this thread.

The main thing is I had noticed that; I had noticed that she had begun to make efforts modifying her style. However- repeated and emphasized quote again:Well you are dead wrong I don't care her motive of saying "Well you are DEAD wrong"- whether it was just the kind of respond I "deserved", whether it was a purely normal human reaction, whether it was a human instinct of counterattack (when she had perceived my words and deeds as "attack" and when she perceived herself as "being attacked")- it was painfully obvious that the moment she used the term "DEAD wrong", and the moment "Well you are dead wrong" came into my sight, that was not only impulsive, undiplomatic, but also once again showing her true style of delievery and that all her so-called efforts had failed. The word "dead", or any expressions associated with the word "dead", such as "dead wrong", in my view, should never be used casually, or intentionally but not in a constructive way. At the end of this post, I would just like to say something that I have been wanting to say for ages- I never thought, and still does not agree, that Fayte bears such striking resemblence with The Monk With No Name in the Hollywood Blockbuster "Bulletproof Monk".

I am not trying to be hairsplitting, but I never thought her as similar with the monk character- because as far as I can remember, the monk character is a kind-hearted, humorous, intelligent, wise but very humble man. While Fayte was anything but humble. I'm not denying all her other virtues- I'm just saying she never seemed like that monk character to me. She was very opinionated, outspoken, quick to anger, and to my mind- grandiose. She wasn't like that monk to me. And someone who truly resembles that monk with no name character, in my opinion, would never claim himself or herself as bearing resemblence with that monk character. For the record, I am going to delete more posts once I have sufficient time to do so, possibly including the ones in this thread. IP: Logged

D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 785From: Registered: May 2006 posted September 28, 2006 12:01 AM

Most importantly... Please tell me what I had done to make so many of you think that I had been using LL as "my own blog". Please, just tell me. Let me know and I won't do the things I did to make you feel so again. Please just tell me straight in my face. Hence I'm going to delete most of my past posts.

Too bad that I cannot delete my posts as The passenger, Eternal Blue and SadMoon as well, merely because I no longer remember or have the passwords. ------------------May not be able to get back to you...appreciate your say nevertheless...D IP: Logged

lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 7652From: piopolis, quebec canadaRegistered: Jul 2005 posted September 28, 2006 12:47 AM

D..I have tried to reach out to you..humbly, I think..my sister is sick..and is on Bilifie,,that is how it sounds..anyway..I do not think anyone is mentally ill..I think it's about karma..and when you are channeled..the information..it is filtered..through you.. only you can figure ,you out..that's all I have ever preached..only you can "KNow thySelf" D..I find you very intelligent..and I find you very diligent..hard working..You will defy this. ... IP: Logged

Lialei Knowflake Posts: 962From: Registered: Jul 2005 posted September 28, 2006 01:16 AM

Well, whether you want to believe it or not,Fayte did care about you. Very much.She expressed concern about you to me several times in private and many more times all over this site! It was genuine humble caring for someone she thought was truly in pain and needed kindness and understanding. Which is why she does NOT deserve this ongoing character assasination.

It's completely unfair to her. And I'm very sad to think of how she's probably sleeping right now, and will rise to see this first thing in the morning. Fayte, we believe in you and know. I cared for you too. But I can see now how that was also completely meaningless to you.whatever. out of here.... IP: Logged

posted October 06, 2006 09:19 AM         

I can answer your questions right here and right now- I deleted my posts not to make the rest of you people look "bad", but only for the sake of deleting most of my posts here at LL, which included many of my other posts at other threads in other forums. I deleted them because I had felt not very well understood and exposed- hence the omission. "Fortunately you had saved most of them"- and I wonder how much time it took you to copy all those dreadfully long posts of mine and along with some of the others'; in my view, it was a waste of time and energy, if not money. It was also a vain effort- it looks like a typical/stereotypical "Scorpio type" of revenge to me, and yet, despite the fact that you have revived a good deal of my previous posts, if you only perceived my deleting the posts as a way of making you people look "bad" and your own restoring the posts as "uncovering the truth which I had 'tried to hide'"- then you were downright mistaken- and wasted lots of precious time and energy. I am not taken aback by your reviving the posts. Rather, I am somewhat fascinated by your action. Silverstone- YOU HAVE NOT SCARED OR STARTLED ME. In fact this seems pathetic to me.

By the way, I agree with Mannu that human beings tend to develop inflated ego. But I personally wouldn't discuss Jesus and the devil. I would have used a different approach.

To this day, I do not regret what I did by starting this thread. I have been extremely disappointed with LindaLand- many of us, myself included- only too often that don't even have the faintest idea about what we are talking about, whom we are defending, whom we are criticizing; I still intend to return here and learn some info/knowledge from some people from time to time, but from now on I will do my utmost not to waste my time and energy doing what even I myself am oblivious about. The Internet is a rich source of crime, and I've seen a lot here at LL.

posted October 06, 2006 09:43 AM         

I think we have a right to know what crimes we are being charged with.

Oops, that may have been the case before the recent bills were passed in a rubbing stamping Republican House and Congress. We don't actually have that right any longer since the Constitution was just flushed down Bush's toilet. :amirk:

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I can answer your questions right here and right now- I deleted my posts not to make the rest of you people look "bad", but only for the sake of deleting most of my posts here at LL, which included many of my other posts at other threads in other forums.

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Ok, D! Like it doesn't make us look like idiots after you comments are deleted? Think about that

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I deleted them because I had felt not very well understood and exposed- hence the omission. "Fortunately you had saved most of them"- and I wonder how much time it took you to copy all those dreadfully long posts of mine and along with some of the others'...

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Copy and paste doesn't take long. Grow up, D. The only reason I copied was for respect for the other knowflakes. You deleted all of them.

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You mean your thread that you deleted.

[quote]It was also a vain effort- it looks like a typical/stereotypical "Scorpio type" of revenge to me,

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I did it for respect for others. You should learn that in this world, if you say something, you should stand by it. Nice of you to try and flip the card on me, D. This is about you.

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I am not taken aback by your reviving the posts. Rather, I am somewhat fascinated by your action.

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You do realize you make no sense. Fascinated? After you say that I wasted my time

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Silverstone- YOU HAVE NOT SCARED OR STARTLED ME. In fact this seems pathetic to me.

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Pathetic is you deleting all of your posts.

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To this day, I do not regret what I did by starting this thread.

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Than why does it upset you that I brought back most of your posts.

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I have been extremely disappointed with LindaLand- many of us, myself included- only too often that don't even have the faintest idea about what we are talking about, whom we are defending, whom we are criticizing; I still intend to return here and learn some info/knowledge from some people from time to time, but from now on I will do my utmost not to waste my time and energy doing what even I myself am oblivious about. The Internet is a rich source of crime, and I've seen a lot here at LL.

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Crime?? So, you do want to push us away. So much for us caring, D

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posted October 06, 2006 09:08 PM         

You may feel you are worse-off than anyone else and nobody understands and there's just nothing you can do about it... I understand you have health problems as well as a mental illness (bipolar) but that doesn't mean others aren't suffering like you.

posted October 07, 2006 01:20 AM         

Crimes- such as creating double or multiple identities at the same time here at LL or other websites, while manipulating these various identities created by one person in order to "add supporters" to oneself, or more perverse, even "form disagreements and arguments" with oneself; making up false stories about one's life- and I admit that I have committed crimes which include faking my identity and my background and deceiving a fellow knowflake here. However, albeit I have indeed had several different usernames here at LL, and did reply to myself in one of my former threads, I have never formed any "dialogue" with myself using different usernames.

For the time being, I think the aforementioned crimes are sufficiently effective examples.

Azalaksh,

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I feel sad for you DforD

- That sounds slightly patronizing to me. I wanted to say I feel sad for you too, but I don't think it's such a good idea- but well, it seems that I've just said it nevertheless.

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that your expectations are apparently so (to use one of your terms) grandiose…..

- Sounds like you don't even completely comprehend the term "grandiose". Besides, what on earth do you think you know about my expectations of LL? If you believe you do, please elaborate.

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At least you have the courage to call a spade a spade and lay it right out for us that you have no intention of contributing to make LL (or this world?) a better place. You are not alone -- there are many who just sit back going, "tsk tsk how disappointing what is wrong with those people"…..

- First, I wouldn't call it "courage".

Secondly, you implied that I had appeared to have no intention of contributing to making this world a better place. THAT is what I personally would call a "grandiose" assumption. You don't even know me. Just because all of us have posted a great deal here does not mean we understand one another, any one of us. This is cyber space, the virtual reality- NOT the reality. You haven't even seen me in flesh. You don't know me, as I don't know you. Upon the "making this world a better place" subject matter, I don't think it's warranted for me to clarify myself here. It would be both unnecessary and useless.

In addition, I do not sit back, whine and just say how I'm so disappointed with this world- I'm not talking about LL exclusively, I am talking about the world. And I do not make such a comment as "what's wrong with these people...?"; In an interesting way, you have totally misunderstood me. Also, you've reminded me not to jump to conclusions or interact with individuals without extra prudence on the Internet from now on. I guess I should thank you for my realizing this.

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As AJ's signature quote says "it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness".....

- AJ and I had never gotten along. Back in 2004, she expressed her dislike of my over-analytical style of thinking in one of my former threads; it's no surprise that you identify with her, since both of you are sun sign Librans, the likelyhood is relatively high. As I said, she never liked me. And I never liked her, either. I remember that she's got Libra sun and Virgo Venus. She's got abundant of sense of morality, integrity and so forth, even includes a quote like the one you referred to at the end of each of her posts. But as far as the way I feel, she doesn't really practice what she has been saying with that particular quote.

Silverstone,

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Copy and paste doesn't take long. Grow up, D. The only reason I copied was for respect for the other knowflakes. You deleted all of them.

- I DID know and still do know that copying and pasting generally do not take too much time. It would have been a nice notion on your part to revive my posts for respect for the other knowflakes. But you proceeded to misinterpret my motive of deleting my posts. Apart from that, you said "Grow up, D"- which was absolutely patronizing. You were not, in my view, being constructive by saying such patronizing things as this.

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in my view, it was a waste of time and energy, if not money.
You mean your thread that you deleted.

- Well, maybe it is true for me that it was also a waste of time, energy and money for myself to delete my posts or to ever write those posts- then again, maybe not. You could dismiss my comment probably because you restored the posts with a "great cause", but, in any event, you were just trying to counterattack, and I have just said that maybe you were right about me on this, but maybe not. However, you did attempt to deny any possibility that it was a waste for yourself.

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I did it for respect for others. You should learn that in this world, if you say something, you should stand by it. Nice of you to try and flip the card on me, D. This is about you.

- "Nice of you to try"...this is sarcasm, and I don't buy sarcasm. It doesn't help improve the situation and it doesn't work for me. It only degrades the person who uses sarcasm.

Whatever you say- you did this for respect of others. And it doesn't mean I didn't or don't stand by what I have said merely because I deleted my posts. You have refused to see exactly my motive of deleting my posts, but instead, you insist that your perception, or rather, misperception of me is definitely accurate.

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You do realize you make no sense. Fascinated? After you say that I wasted my time

- I had realized before that one of the wrong things to say on the Internet is calling anybody "making no sense". So many of you preaching "no judgment", and yet those who had preached so, have been truly judgmental and quick to jump to their own judgments. How ironic. As for the use of the word "fascinated"- of course I was, because your endeavors of reviving the deleted posts were vain efforts to me, and I was trying to refrain from using what would have been more exact but also more offensive vocabulary.

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Pathetic is you deleting all of your posts

- Again, making such judgments on the Internet is not very practical to me any more, therefore from now on I am going to stop calling others pathetic, because we dont even know each other. This is not a " being pathetic" contest.

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Than why does it upset you that I brought back most of your posts.

- You completely misunderstood my reaction, obviously. It DIDN'T upset me. As a matter of fact, I think you did me a favor by bringing back most of my posts. How ironic for a sun sign Scorpio.

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Crime?? So, you do want to push us away. So much for us caring, D

- As I have explained to Mirandee above. At least she wanted to understand what I thought and asked me to elaborate. While you didn't even attempt doing so and simply jumped to your own conclusion and your own feelings. I really am not so interested in spending time speaking to you here at LL, silverstone- I don't have much to expect from someone like you who "respects and admire BOTH lotusheartone and Fayte". If you don't find me particularly pleasant, please just ignore me, as I will also ignore you, rather than bugging you, since I am aware that we are never on each other's frequency. I don't want to argue with you- I'm not compelled to doing so and that would be a waste of my energy as far as I'm concerned. Therefore I would appreciate it if you could ignore me from now on.

Bleakbeauty,

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You may feel you are worse-off than anyone else and nobody understands and there's just nothing you can do about it... I understand you have health problems as well as a mental illness (bipolar) but that doesn't mean others aren't suffering like you.

- I do not feel, and have never felt that I am worse-off than anyone else. I have never felt, either, that nobody understands. I also do not feel that there's nothing I can do about it- those are exaggerations. Seriously inaccurate presumptions.

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It does sound like you have some growing up to do

- Sure I do. Don't we all?

posted October 07, 2006 02:37 AM         

Having now been on the receiving end of people critizing you, misunderstanding and misjudging you here on this thread you should be able to empathize with how Fayte feels having been on the receiving end of your critcism and misjudgment of her.

I would not go so far as to call them "crimes" but yes, I do believe that certain people here at LL have different user names and do precisely what you described in your post. So I do not feel that you are paranoid or just imagining that at all and I am sure many people here at LL have suspected that of some people. You can usually tell by the way they express themselves and the terms of speech they use. They also tend to misspell the same words.

posted October 07, 2006 04:26 AM         

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If you don't find me particularly pleasant, please just ignore me, as I will also ignore you...

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I never said I found you unpleasant. I actually stated before that I find you highly intelligent. But I will ignore you if you wish, I was simply trying to be fair. And for the record, I do not dislike you, D, but I think you know that. Hopefully, this will all pass and you will understand. Good luck.

Silverstone

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

posted October 07, 2006 07:19 AM         

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Azalaksh,
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I feel sad for you DforD
- That sounds slightly patronizing to me. I wanted to say I feel sad for you too, but I don't think it's such a good idea- but well, it seems that I've just said it nevertheless.

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that your expectations are apparently so (to use one of your terms) grandiose…..
- Sounds like you don't even completely comprehend the term "grandiose". Besides, what on earth do you think you know about my expectations of LL? If you believe you do, please elaborate.

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At least you have the courage to call a spade a spade and lay it right out for us that you have no intention of contributing to make LL (or this world?) a better place. You are not alone -- there are many who just sit back going, "tsk tsk how disappointing what is wrong with those people"…..
- First, I wouldn't call it "courage".
Secondly, you implied that I had appeared to have no intention of contributing this world a better place. THAT is what I personally would call a "grandiose" assumption. You don't even know me. Just because all of us have posted a great deal here does not mean we understand one another, any one of us. This is cyber space, the virtual reality- NOT the reality. You haven't even seen me in flesh. You don't know me, as I don't know you. Upon the "making this world a better place" subject matter, I don't think it's warranted for me to clarify myself here. It would be both unnecessary and useless.

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In addition, I do not sit back, whine and just say how I'm so disappointed with this world- I'm not talking about LL exclusively, I am talking about the world. And I do not make such a comment as "what's wrong with these people...?"; In an interesting way, you have totally misunderstood me. Also, you've reminded me not to jump to conclusions or interact with individuals without extra prudence on the Internet from now on. I guess I should thank you for my realizing this.

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As AJ's signature quote says "it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness".....
-AJ and I had never gotten along. Back in 2004, she expressed her dislike of my over-analytical style of thinking in one of my former threads; it's no surprise that you identify with her, since both of you are sun sign Librans, the likelyhood is relatively high. As I said, she never liked me. And I never liked her, either. I remember that she's got Libra sun and Virgo Venus. She's got abundant of sense of morality, integrity and so forth, even includes a quote like the one you referred to at the end of each of her posts. But as far as the way I feel, she doesn't really practice what she has been saying with that particular quote.

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posted October 07, 2006 01:39 PM         

I am curious about your other user names. I was surprised to hear you say that you've been here since 2004. Can you tell me who you have been?