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Valus
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHny5yKYuec

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posted April 27, 2009 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diabla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey!

Yer welcome
Besides tried to watch the video you posted ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siNsgbIWhAQ&NR=1) and it says it's not available in my country!? ... shuuuuuz
youtube sucks sometime. hehe

The last video is beautiful!

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posted April 27, 2009 09:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks.

The other video was
Jeff Buckley's "Grace".

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Lara
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HSC, are you now VALUS?

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posted May 10, 2009 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Great picture!

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posted May 14, 2009 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fases De La Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious, why 'Heart Shaped Cross'?

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hehe i thought so!


great to see you HSC. Hope you are well. I agree about Jeff Buckley. Love you shoulda come over is a great track!

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Valus
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Several reasons, Luna.

Its a play on "heart-shaped box",
a song by my favorite band.

It raises the themes of christian symbology
(which are very big interests of mine) --

Suggesting the cross is a heart,
to better illustrate the theme of
sacrifice in the spirit of compassion.

And..

It has that flare for the dramatic
that I can't live long without.


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Thanks, Lara.

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posted May 14, 2009 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grace was the first Jeff Buckley song I fell in love with....sounded great amplified in the night club.

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his version of 'hallelujah' is
maybe the coolest thing i've ever heard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pid0nCrsQxM&feature=channel_page



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posted May 15, 2009 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah"? Really?
The intro is nice but I much rather listen to Rufus Wainwright's version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMrZ7lChK-g ... or Allison Crowe's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMOdVXAPJ0

Sorry to disrupt.

BTW, you introduced me to Leonard Cohen, Valus. Thank you for that.

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Blasphemy!

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posted May 17, 2009 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fases De La Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, I get the flair for the dramatic. I have days when i feel the same.

Totally agree with the representation for the faith factor. It amuses me that the image they would choose to define/sell Christianity is a crucifixion. Sort of trips right there to reveal they prefer guilt inducing tactics. Noticed from the pictures that you have a lot of religious statues/pictures in your room. I'm Roman Catholic so we have a lot of those at our place too!

Your picture took me by surprise. You look a lot like my best friend, a scorpion born on the 23rd of October. Only you're younger and Caucasian. Oh & he woke up one day & shaved his head and you just got a haircut

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Drama is the spice of life.

I agree, the crucifix shouldn't be used as
a tool to introduce people to Christianity.
It's a very sophisticated symbol which
is very easily misunderstood and misused.

The crucifix is a powerful archetype,
infinitely rich in the deepest spiritual significance,
for those who are inspired to contemplate it correctly.
It is a symbol which reflects the true movement of Spirit,
which is not a movement "out of darkness and into the light",
but, rather, a movement of light, carried into the darkness.
The crucifix is the symbol par excellence of sacrificial love;
of love in its highest, most compassionate and devoted form.

"Greater love hath no man than this:
that a man lay down his life for his friends."
~ John 15:13

It is a shining example of the best that is in us, and a sobering reminder that, when we do not rise to the duty of healing ourselves and our world, someone must do it for us. Jesus spoke words of love and truth at a time when this was a capital offense. Because of his sacrifice, and the sacrifices of others like him, the world has been given a chance to become aware of love and truth. And, because of a great many sacrifices like his (many of which were inspired by him, and performed in his name), we can discuss these things today without fear of being crucified or burnt at the stake. So that we do not take this for granted, we may contemplate the archetypal image of sacrifice; the crucifix.


Martyrs are spiritual heroes.
Christ was the greatest martyr of our species;
through him has martyrdom become infinitely significant and holy.
~ Novalis



Puzzle


Someone who keeps aloof from suffering is not a lover.

I choose your love above all else.
As for wealth, if that comes, or goes, so be it.
Wealth and love inhabit separate worlds.

But as long as you live here inside me,
I cannot say that I am suffering.

~ Sanai

It's not about guilt, but
Kierkegaard was right in saying,
"Christianity is a demand,
not a consolation."

There is a responsibility
that comes with being Christian.
And, if we do not want it,
we should not guilt ourselves,
but, neither should we
call ourselves Christians.

"Why call ye me 'Lord, Lord,'
and do not the things which i say?"
~Luke 6:46

Incidentally, I'm not a Christian.

While I deeply admire aspects of Christian symbology,
and many of the sayings attributed to Jesus of Nazareth,
I think that it would be a gargantuan undertaking
even to define, for myself, the meaning of Christianity;
which denomination suits me, and what do I bring to it;
would I have to create my own sect, or what??
I have enough difficulty trying to define my own identity,
without having to define my Christian identity, as well.

As I understand it, Jesus was an anarchist,
who advocated a life of severe poverty and pacifism.
If you aren't a pacifist, and you own property,
it really makes no sense to imagine that you
are a follower of this man's teachings.
But thats my opinion, and I may be wrong.

Your friend sounds like a handsome guy.

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