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Ami Ann
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posted February 26, 2010 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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posted February 26, 2010 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think that she should have been drunk and at a place with just her and the husband in the first place. This also isn't the first time something like this has happened, which means it seems to be a pattern in her life. In otherwords and I don't mean to sound like a jerk but she seems to be asking for it, if not consciously then unconsciously. I didn't let her know that I thought it was her fault regardless and that was hard because I can't bottle my feelings at all. So now I have resentment towards her. At first I was mad at the guy, then I was mad at myself for possibly bringing this into existence by my own karma, then I was angry at her. I finally realized that we all played a role in this happening and the best way to handle this is by removing myself from this relationship and letting the situation in her life resolve itself. I even wished that she would meet the perfect guy to help her forget about the event and to help her forget about me.

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posted February 27, 2010 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
S - generally Capricorn women are extremely cautious and extremely mature. Why she would do these things is beyond me.. But I'm guessing it is connected to the Mars-Pluto conjunction in Scorpio.

She might be attracted to dangerous situations like a moth to a flame (but ONLY when these situations are sexual). She likes being in control, but she also has a desire to lose control. Everything is highly psychological to her.. and she plays psychological games with her potential sexual partners..

Either this ^ OR.. she draws in men who play games *with* her.

My first reaction to reading the story was - "Alcohol does not paralyse.. so why couldn't she move?"

Was her drink spiked?

I could see what Ami is saying - except this girl really does not seem like someone who is easily frightened by something sexual. She's much more attracted to taboo things than typical every-day things..

Your synastry seems very sexual. I'm really not sure how this worked out as a long distance relationship.. because a huge part of it would've been sex, if you were living nearby. I'm saying that because you both have Mars/Pluto conjunctions. Her Mars/Pluto is trine your Venus. Your Mars/Pluto is sextile her Moon. Her Mars is conjunct your Moon. ALL highly sexual aspects.. Her Mars/Pluto are also square your Sun (which is a huge one for sexual attraction but it also leads to conflict and drama).

Your Venuses are in opposition, which is another attraction factor - however ultimately you desire very different things from a relationship and a partner.. The opposition is an aspect showing polarized views.. It can be attractive and repelling at the same time.

I'd say that this was a meaningful relationship.. but one that was not the *best* thing for you.
All of her Capricorn planets are on your South Node. This point is connected to past lives. You can feel a strong bond to people who have conjunctions to your SN.. but eventually you tend to move away from them because your direction in this life is the North Node (Cancer)..

(Ami - if you read this ^ I don't believe the same thing applies to you and PDF because your NN signs are the same.. so you are sort of heading in the same direction - spiritually)

S - You may have felt she was too domineering or authoritative towards you at times. She probably demanded particular changes in you (at some point) - changes you were not happy to make.. You could have easily felt impinged on by her attitude.. and your reaction was to withdraw warmth and affection.

In a nut shell.. good relationship (mainly based on your sexual similarities - throw in some emotional ones) - but not excellent! Probably ran its course imo
And you probably made the right decision.

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posted February 27, 2010 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Vapor, I must say that what you just wrote was amazing. You really put the relationship into perspective for me. You seem like you have it right on as you confirm all of my assumptions. Fantastic. Did you draw your conclusions from psychological painting and/or did you get this information straight from the chart and can you explain? Can you tell me anymore about the past life scenerio that we had?

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posted February 27, 2010 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
aww lol thanks S
Glad it helped!

I only drew conclusions from the chart. If you read about the different aspects and looked into it more yourself - you could interpret your own charts. I'm not a professional astrologer.. I've just had a look at several friends' & family's charts and also people on LL.. plus my own relationships (I've also read a lot online and in astrology books, throughout the years.. I've been interested in this since my early teens.. and I'm almost 24 now so it's been a while).

cafeastrology is a really good site for both natal and synastry interpretations:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html

Here is their interpretation for *her* Sun conjunct *your* South Node (which is the closest past life connection you have):

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When your Sun is conjunct your partner's South Node (therefore it is in opposition to your partner's North Node), this relationship can be revolutionary in terms of personal growth. The friendship between you is instant. In fact, you are likely to find each other very familiar even on first meeting. Your partner will quite naturally reveal your inner strengths. The caution here is that you may pull your partner into the past. You will feel safe to your partner, and he or she runs the danger of avoiding key issues he or she needs to face through North Node lessons via your association. You may not encourage each other to take on new adventures, finding it all too easy to slip into a familiar pattern. The ties that bind you, however, are very strong.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_northnode_aspects.html

When you read that ^ don't forget "your partner" is YOU.. and she is the one that the interpretation is addressed *to* lol

I couldn't take an accurate stab at what your past lives involved.. I'm not very good at that.. but maybe she was a parental figure for you.. or a teacher?

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posted February 27, 2010 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
We initially met on a chat line. I would go on yahoo chat about 7 or 8 years ago and I was a much much much more rude person than I am now. She was fascinated with how I thought and treated people in the virtual world I guess. She became obsessed with me. I put her down constantly and she would apologize and beg me not to stop talking to her. I understand that this is quite silly over a computer, to me at the time it was a game. What I am about to tell you may seem weird or harsh but I would never allow a person to do this for me now,remember this happened many years ago and I am quite a different person now.

She would take a razor blade or broken glass, whatever I told her to do it with and she would carve my name into her body on cam. She liked to show other people that she did this too. She was completely dissolved into me.Eventually the submission went away day by day until the point where I was actually loving to her and we were almost equal. Then we finally met. She rode on a bus for a day and a half to meet me. I think she was quite suprised because I was actually a nice guy. I didn't pressure her into sex at all eventhough I knew that she would do what I wanted, I think this really confused her. I actually waited until she felt comfortable enough to have sex with me and this was three nights later.

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posted February 27, 2010 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
It *does* seem harsh.. But it doesn't surprise me at all between two Mars-Pluto people.
I only have the sextile, which is a minor aspect.. but I was with a guy who has a Mars-Pluto opposition and if I let things get out of hand.. it could've easily ended up somewhere similar to what you described. But I pulled away before it got to that..

Probably the best known person with Mars-Pluto is Angelina Jolie.. and there were several stories floating around about the blood and the cutting goin' on with Billy Bob LOL I never checked whether he has a Mars-Pluto himself.. *shrug* I bet he does.

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I didn't pressure her into sex at all eventhough I knew that she would do what I wanted, I think this really confused her.

Do you think this put her off? Just curious..

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posted February 27, 2010 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
(((Vapor))))
You are so sweet to have said that about PDF.
I really feel like you are a friend! Thank you. Ami

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posted February 27, 2010 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
My gut feeling ,Sanchuness, is that you should not give up on her so fast. It is just a gut feeling.
We, all, are flawed. Anyone you know more than a superficial way will have things you don't like.
The larger point is if you can accept hers or are they deal breakers.
When a man really cares for a woman, he is possessive over her body.
I think you cared a great deal and so it hurt a great deal.
You have to decide if how she is is acceptable for you in a mate(g/f etc).
For me, I need total fidelity and I would give it but I don't have much Pluto (Thank God--LOL)
Ami

PS I was thinking about what Vapor said about how you were a nice guy when she came. I know that you ARE but maybe you need to play the bad personna with her, at times.

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posted February 27, 2010 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Sanchenuss. people changes. Why not give your self and her a chance. Everyone warned me about my exhusband. Before we be a couple he went from woman to woman. I've always trust on him. I've never feelt me unsure about him. I can't believe he been with someone else in our time, 15 year togheter.

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posted February 28, 2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Was wondering how you were doing, Sanchuness?
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posted February 28, 2010 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Im doing good Ami, thanks for asking!
I don't think that she was put off by me letting her wait but she saw me as someone that she could trust emotionally? That I wasn't just in it for sex? She was very sad on the last day and she wouldn't speak to me because she says she doesnt do well with goodbyes. I ended up going to visit her in Canada and she came back down again for another week. Then she wanted to push our relationship to me moving in with her and I don't like the idea of living with anyone.

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posted March 01, 2010 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
How long did you know her before you met her, Sanchuness?
Did 3D feel different than 2D?
Did you have to get used to a whole new person in 3D or did it seem like she was the same as in 2D?
Once I met him I knew it would not be romantic--just friends--but now it is nothing cuz just friends does not work when one person wants more. Ami

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posted March 01, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
5 years before 3d. It was a little different but not that much drastic of a difference. She seemed to like me even more once 3d.

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posted March 01, 2010 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Did the sex stop being clumsy or did it stay that way i.e.not feeling like it worked? Also, I think you really like her, Sanchuness. Ami

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posted March 01, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
It was only really clumsy the first time. It got better. I don't mean to sound coceited but unlike most guys, I have a lot of Kundalini energy going through my phallus, so much that you can feel the energy vibrating through it. I didn't really feel emotionally connected to her that much, on the surface anyway but it was nice to have her in my life because like Vapor said she was sort of a rock. I feel like she really needed me though. She did everything to keep us together and she ended up spending over 10,000 dollars on me.

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posted March 01, 2010 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Did you ever feel emotionally connected to her. If so, when and why did it change?
(You don't have to answer ,of course)
As of now, do you feel or not emotionally connected? Ami

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posted March 01, 2010 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Not like I could. I know who my twin flame is but she wants nothing of me right now. I care for her well being and there are times when I neglected my feelings and catered to her just so she wouldn't hurt herself. There was one night where I felt like being really intimate with her but she wasn't in the mood so I was shut down. But I think that in general Im become more of an emotionally detatched person over the past few years. Im not consciously attatched to much of anyone and it isn't a bad feeling. On the other hand, I have a deep love for all things that are in a positive vibration.When she would drink, she would become extremely intimate with me. She would lose control and start biting me, like, really hard! lol.

I also don't really have any desire at all to have kids. I hear if you have kids you create karma down here on earth. I came inside of her many times but she never got pregnant, so I don't think IM supposed to have kids down here.

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posted March 01, 2010 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you (((Sanchuness)))) Ami

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posted March 01, 2010 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for what?

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posted March 01, 2010 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Being so real. Ami

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posted March 01, 2010 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
oh ok lol

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posted March 07, 2010 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
last night I dreamnt that I was visiting her in Canada. I wondered how I could afford to get there so I looked at my ticket and it said only 113.00 dollars but it was for only 2,3 or 4 days. We started having sex, she was on top, she was really enjoying it. I could have finished but I kept going to please her and then she turned into a werewolf. I was like, "ahha, I knew it, she was a werewolf all of the time and this is what she does to her victims". There was a big struggle with her and I ended up getting out but I had left my bags in her apartment. So, I knew that eventually I would have to go back and get them but I was terrified because now I knew she was a werewolf. I was walking around Canada looking for guns to protect myself and I had to find somewhere before midnight because I knew that is when she would change shape.

This dream is almost obvious to me but I want to know what others think if they care

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