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Izo
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posted July 18, 2010 07:49 PM
  
Interesting story, Kat. With the Leo it's still too soon to tell, but with the Bull... It was soooo fated. I still love him, in a way, the fondness is still there. But we had way too much Pluto energy to make it work or last. I will always consider him my biggest teacher in life and love. ------------------
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Ami Ann
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posted July 18, 2010 08:05 PM
Dear Izo
This positive feeling just came over me with you and your guy.
There are gonna be some good things happening in the near future--I think. x o x Ami ------------------
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posted July 18, 2010 09:08 PM
Reading your posts makes it sound like the NN person gets shafted lol.I have Jan Spiller's book, "Cosmic Love." Here's the bit about NN conjunct Venus. NORTH NODE person:
Your purpose in the Venus person's life is to increase their sense of self-worth & to bring them good luck in the areas of love & money. Your appreciation and admiration validate them and help them to feel good about themselves. They recognize your good intentions as you open their heart to love & affection.
Verbalize your feelings about them. Talk about their talents and abilities and support them in activities that enhance their self-esteem. Your influence increases their self acceptance & builds their confidence in their social skills.
As you validate what is special about them, you also feel good about yourself. The love engendered by your relationship is a blessing for you both. VENUS person:
Chances are you'll fall in love with this person-like it or not. Their purpose in your life is to teach you how to love & experience pleasure. They expand your capacity for personal affection and heal obstructions that get in the way of your feeling love for others. Their presence opens your heart in a healthy way.
As they activate this love in you, you in turn want to help them. You feel generous and affectionate toward this person. You understand them and overlook their faults. Even if they hurt you, your love understands taht we all have personal flaws and you forgive them. They also validate you and enhance your sense of self worth. Even if they let you down, your esteem does not suffer.
This person has entered your life because on a subconscious level your soul is longing for you to experience more joy and pleasure in living. Since they make you feel beautiful and worthwhile, it is easier to attract others, so they are a boon for your social life. They are good luck for you in relationships, and they may even bring you financial benefits.
Your North Node partner will help you see life and relationships in a way that expands your capacity to experience love. There is a positive, mutual flow of love intrinsic to this connection, so when someone has their north node on your venus, spend time with them! IP: Logged |
Agent_009
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posted July 18, 2010 09:13 PM
Reading your posts makes it sound like the NN person gets shafted lol.I have Jan Spiller's book, "Cosmic Love." Here's the bit about NN conjunct Venus. NORTH NODE person:
Your purpose in the Venus person's life is to increase their sense of self-worth & to bring them good luck in the areas of love & money. Your appreciation and admiration validate them and help them to feel good about themselves. They recognize your good intentions as you open their heart to love & affection.
Verbalize your feelings about them. Talk about their talents and abilities and support them in activities that enhance their self-esteem. Your influence increases their self acceptance & builds their confidence in their social skills.
As you validate what is special about them, you also feel good about yourself. The love engendered by your relationship is a blessing for you both. VENUS person:
Chances are you'll fall in love with this person-like it or not. Their purpose in your life is to teach you how to love & experience pleasure. They expand your capacity for personal affection and heal obstructions that get in the way of your feeling love for others. Their presence opens your heart in a healthy way.
As they activate this love in you, you in turn want to help them. You feel generous and affectionate toward this person. You understand them and overlook their faults. Even if they hurt you, your love understands taht we all have personal flaws and you forgive them. They also validate you and enhance your sense of self worth. Even if they let you down, your esteem does not suffer.
This person has entered your life because on a subconscious level your soul is longing for you to experience more joy and pleasure in living. Since they make you feel beautiful and worthwhile, it is easier to attract others, so they are a boon for your social life. They are good luck for you in relationships, and they may even bring you financial benefits.
Your North Node partner will help you see life and relationships in a way that expands your capacity to experience love. There is a positive, mutual flow of love intrinsic to this connection, so when someone has their north node on your venus, spend time with them! IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 19, 2010 04:55 AM
Kata,I agree.
I don`?t think it`s the Venus-NN that gives the heartbreak-feeling. It might enhance the fated feeling and attraction, but the heartbreak comes into play with some other aspects. I have checked several synastries for these aspects, and they came up in these synastries: (1) Robert Browning - Elizabeth Barrett Browning
her SN conjunct his Venus They were both poets. He was some years younger than her, and their relationship began over exchanging letters and discussion of their arts, but very quickly they fell in love with each other. Actually she might have loved him even before, as she was already having a picture of him in her room, before they even got to know each other. She was his groupie so to speak, even though she was much more famous than he was.
She was also a sickly middle aged woman (when she met him she was into her middle 30`s, which was rather old at that century), never married, never been in love before, partly due to her fragile health, partially due to her tyrannical father who forbade his children to marry!
She also told Robert to not pursue and court her, which he did fervently!
He wouldn´t listen though and just sweep her away. So within a year or so they eloped to Italy and married against her father`s will. She sort of burned all bridges behind and transformed herself to be with him! A sickly woman, dominated by a tyrannical father, full of fears, yet she ran away with Robert.
Their marriage was a happy one, even her health improved (at least for some years), they had a child together and they lived (and wrote) happily together, until she died.
He survived her for several years, but when he was himself being pursued by a young woman, he told her: "My heart is buried in Florence." (that was where Elizabeth was buried).
It seems that it was HIM, who really worked on manifesting their attraction, and was not giving up on her, even when she was hesitant at first.
(2)Edward - Wallis Simpson
her NN square his Venus
The story is known I guess. And again it was him (the Venus-person) who "moved earth" to be with her, in his case abdicating
(3) Patrick Swayze - Lisa Niemi
her NN square his Venus
again it is him, who is the Venus-person. Is that a coincidence?
Anyway, I suspect they have been a happy and loving couple given the amount of years they shared together, and also the way they faced the end together. (4) Antonio Banderas - Melanie Griffith
his NN conjunct her Venus Now, one case in which SHE is the Venus-person.
They have been married for quite some time now. Personally I do think they are soulmates, but of course I do not know what is happening behind closed doors.lol
Anyway I once read in an interview that she said about meeting him, that she had that instantly compulsion of: I must have him.
(5) John Lennon - Yoko Ono
Well, these two considered themselves being "two Halves of one Whole". It hink it was him who said this.
her SN conjunct his Venus
(6) Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria - Sisi
For him it was love at first sight, and they got married.
For her the rigid demandments of court and him being always occupied with his duties made living at court pretty unbearable.
Of course they stayed married nevertheless, but not very happily (at least on her side).
her NN square his Venus
(7) Crownprince Rudolph of Austria - Marie Vetsera
It seems that they had been having an affair, while he was still unhappily married.
In this case many biographers say that she was in love with him, while he was not nearly as much in love. other biographers say he was crazy about her. So I have no idea what is true.
What is known, though, is that he first shot her, and then committed suicide, and that she probably agreed to it.
her NN square his Venus So, it seems that this Venus-nodal aspect pops up in happy as well as rather unhappy relationships. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 19, 2010 05:11 AM
Izo,"I can't show up with dark circles around my eyes, can I? "
Oh we can`t have that.  I just thought you`d have it figured out already.
His Venus is conjunct my NN and Neptune (3)
His Venus is very widely conjunct my ASC (6) and Mars (8) - I never know if that counts or not. lol
his Venus is on my Moon/Pluto-mp (0)
(His own Venus/Mars-mp is on my Mars and ASC by under 1 degree)
His Venus squares my Jupiter (2)
his ASC conjunct my NN and Neptune (0)
his ASC squares my Jupiter (2)
his ASC conjunct my ASC (2)
his Saturn widely conjuncts my SN and widely opposes my Neptune (very wide with 5 degrees).
It kinda means that his natal Venus-Saturn-opposition overlays my nodal axis which is on my relationship-axis (1st - 7th house).
my Saturn is exact conjunct his SN and opposing his Jupiter.
my Chiron squares his SN (3)
Funnily though we have VEnus in each other`s NN-sign. his Venus and my NN in Sag, my Venus and his NN in Cap.
Oh and you already have figured out who it is.
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katatonic
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posted July 19, 2010 10:46 PM
sorry izo i lost the thread there...it's dyna who has aries sun cap moon...but you have cap ascendant? IP: Logged |
Izo
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posted July 20, 2010 02:24 PM
Dy-na,
My Sun is at 13 Aries. Has a dreadful Sabian about a man, a woman and a snake.
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It's funny we have those Node aspects. I've noticed something similar with Spanky. She has NN at 2 Capricorn on my Mars and Mercury at 0' Scorpio on my SN lolMaybe a few of us have karmic connections on LL.
I'm sure we do. This site is a wonderful gathering place of like-minded people and it has helped me gain clarity and grow as a person, even though I'm not here as often as before. quote:
I'm sure you're beautiful btw. Capricorn AC have a very distinct kind of dignity. My ex had this AC.
Dignity, yes. Beauty... well, beauty is subjective, anyway. My appearance doesn't have the harmony and symmetry that is generally pleasing to the eyes. It's a fact that I don't like but it is true and that's that. Hopefully people find in me other atributes they enjoy. Ami,
You were right. Good things are happening. I can sense our bond becoming stronger and there is a feeling of complicity there. He accepted an invitation to a party my friend is having next Monday. Can you get a positive feeling about him and his girl breaking up? *crosses fingers* DD,
It's Jude, isn't it? Oh, I love your synastry with him!!
Wow, thank you for posting the NN-Venus connections of the soulmate couples. Very interesting stories. It would seem that the Venus person is more eager to form a couple than the NN person, though in my own experience it's been quite the opposite. Well, I guess other synastric factors and natal charts come into play. ------------------
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Izo
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posted July 20, 2010 02:42 PM
Agent_009,
Thank you so much for posting that info from Jan Spiller's book. I plan on buying it soon.
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Reading your posts makes it sound like the NN person gets shafted lol.
Uh-oh. Sorry about that. It's just that my view about this aspect in highly influenced by my relationship with the first guy, the Bull, which was a huge disappointment. I guess I don't like this aspect because it seems like a promise of "The One", but it might just as well be a coincidence. Are they here to help us grow? Of course, but at what cost? Perhaps the rest of my chart is equally responsible for the disappointment I felt when my relationship with the Bull ended... But I really don't like it when promises are broken. quote:
This person has entered your life because on a subconscious level your soul is longing for you to experience more joy and pleasure in living.
This thing you wrote about the Venus person felt very familiar to me, as the Node person. In both cases, I sensed these people were having relationship issues and were close to giving up - Bull was giving up on love altogether, he wanted to have nothing to do with it  . I wanted to show him love is very much a possibility and he was missing out on a great life experience. The Leo is giving up on his ideals of having a married life, because of his affair with a girl married to someone else. I think it's unfair because he is definitely the marrying type and I think he is, in a way, settling for less, selling out. In both of these cases, I felt (or feel) I was the person called out to straighten these guys out, to show them that the path they've chosen is not what they really wanted at core. Not by imposing, but by presenting an alternative, I guess. ------------------
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Izo
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posted July 20, 2010 02:49 PM
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VENUS person:
Chances are you'll fall in love with this person-like it or not.
This made me laugh. The Bull didn't like it at all, he resisted me for a year with his on and off games, but eventually had to surrender.
Hopefully the Leo will also come to his senses soon. ------------------
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DD
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posted July 20, 2010 02:49 PM
Izo,
Ya got me. Anyway 13 Aries - very powerful Sabian. Very sexual, no very KUNDALINI-
Yes, according to the books and how these relationships played out it would be Venus who is the most eager.
But I think we cannot base our interpretation on this one aspect alone.
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Izo
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posted July 20, 2010 02:56 PM
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Anyway 13 Aries - very powerful Sabian. Very sexual, no very KUNDALINI
Yeah, but instead I chose to live my Ascendant's Sabian: A woman entering a convent, if you know what I mean...  ------------------
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Izo
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posted July 20, 2010 03:11 PM
Kat,
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sorry izo i lost the thread there...it's dyna who has aries sun cap moon...but you have cap ascendant?
Yes, I do. My Sun sign and my Asc sign are in conflict, I never knew which one to choose in a particular situation. Should I go for it or should I wait for it? Should I speak or keep my thoughts to myself? Most of the time I act like a Capricorn, which has caused me to waste some opportunities that an Aries wouldn't have missed.
Just realized that with the Bull I acted in an Aries manner, jumped in without thinking of the consequences. With the Leo I took the Cappy aproach. Obviously, it should have been the other way around. Me=supid sometimes. ------------------
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posted July 20, 2010 03:34 PM
"Yeah, but instead I chose to live my Ascendant's Sabian: A woman entering a convent, if you know what I mean... "
LOL
Yes I know what you mean. my Sun/Moon-mp Sabian is not so grand either.
A general accepts defeat gracefully. Oh great.
Anyway, seems your DESC is conjunct my Destinn and Draco IC.
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posted July 20, 2010 03:35 PM
Cool thread.I'm loving the Venus-Nodes songs.  I submit Never Tear Us Apart. I was standing
You were there
Two worlds collided
And they could never tear us apart We could live
For a thousand years
But if I hurt you
I'd make wine from your tears I told you
That we could fly
'Cause we all have wings
But some of us don't know why Michael Hutchence will forever give me a wicked case of the nom noms.  Speaking of which, for Mars or Eros-Nodes I submit Need You Tonight.
So slide over here
And give me a moment
Your moves are so raw
I've got to let you know
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posted July 20, 2010 03:36 PM
As far as my own Venus-Node synastry, I think I've only had this with my brother. His Venus on my NN (0*). My Venus cnj his SN (3*).Izo  Hello! I'm thinking about your nodal situation. And I will tell you my thoughts whether you want me to or not.  I'm wondering if part of your Node journey involves loving and submitting to life's messiness? Your Sag SN wants an overall philosophy. I know how idealistic Neptune cnj a luminary in Sag can be. It says, a friend doesn't break another friend's heart. People don't lose their faith in marriage. It says all sorts of things that are lovely, but Gemini says that all this sh1t does happen. Makes me think your Neptune's role does involve some disappointment. Your compassionate, loving heart wants things to be a certain way for everyone's well-being. And it's constantly getting told, no such luck. People must suffer, and that will include you making others suffer at times. Your Gem NN wants your Moon-Neptune to see that this mess serves a larger purpose, and that there's inherent beauty in the ugliness. Since Gem is a mutable mental sign and Neptune is involved, I'm thinking your Nodes want to give you situations that challenge both your ideals and your initial views. It's asking your compassionate Moon to transcend your mental constructs and see the beauty in the way things are, ways that are constantly in flux. Tall order! Maybe? IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 20, 2010 03:39 PM
Jane,
I couldn`t view the song Geo contributed. Which one was it?
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posted July 20, 2010 03:43 PM
DD -Kenny Loggins "Sweet Reunion"
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posted July 20, 2010 04:00 PM
Hi Izo
I felt a feeling about you and him getting closer. It hit me--out of the blue when I read your post.
I feel a blank wall about her and him.
I can't feel it.
Keep talking about it on here and if I feel other things ,I will tell you. x o Ami
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posted July 20, 2010 06:47 PM
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I can relate to your story. I was Venus once, conjunct a guy's NN in Taurus. I think he felt the burn much more than I did. There was definitely a deep connection, also because our Ascendants were conjunct and his Moon-Neptune was on my Moon-Neptune, but I am sure the NN-Venus also played a big part. This was another guy that I spotted in a crowd. I guess this is a theme with this aspect. We didn't have a romantic relationship, even though he hinted on it and I also wanted it at some point. But I think he was the one who was more disappointed. I was free to do my thing, while he was sort of hooked on me.
I totally agree, because even though the hurt linger(s)...once I realized it was OVER, it suprised me how quickly I was able to move on. I was already talking to someone new about a month later (though that didn't work out). I don't know what I can say about him because he's so good at hiding his true feelings, but I get subtle messages that maybe he has not moved on. One came in an intense dream, and the other by complete accident!... LMAO. I went back to my homestate to visit family for Christmas (where he also lives) and at the big mall there, me and my sister saw him with a girl who was the absolute skinnier version of me. I thought I was in the twilight zone.  LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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posted July 20, 2010 09:29 PM
IZO,
your welcome...I was going to type out SN-Venus too but that part was toooo long haha. ["In both cases, I sensed these people were having relationship issues and were close to giving up - Bull was giving up on love altogether, he wanted to have nothing to do with it."] --Yeah I was wondering about that when I read it too. What about you as the NN person? Were you giving up on love as well, when you suddenly met them? Also, Bull was giving up prior to meeting you right? He seemed to dig you, so why didnt he just go for it? why all the holding back? I'm curious cuz, I met someone with NN-Venus conjunction (me NN), and it really felt fated. I've never experienced fated-ness to such a massive extent before. I felt attraction/intrigue towards him but clearly he was more obsessed with me? However he was already married, so I didnt go there. On a soul level I felt like he had given up on love too. Prior to meeting him, I was traumatized by an ex & had entirely shut down my heart. I had read somewhere (maybe in Cosmic Love as well); that such an aspect points to both parties have been hurt before coming together to heal obstructions. It felt like meeting him showed me I still had the ability to, "be interested," in someone. IP: Logged |
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posted July 21, 2010 09:10 AM
what orb do you guys consider a conjunction that would matter? 6-7 degrees?
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posted July 21, 2010 09:12 AM
what orb do you guys consider a conjunction that would matter? 6-7 degrees?
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posted July 21, 2010 10:05 AM
Personally I don`t allow more than 4-5° for a conjunction, and consider this to be pretty wide.
6-7 degree might still be felt, but more subtle. The tighter the orb, the more insistent the connection feels.IP: Logged |
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posted July 21, 2010 10:23 AM
I agree with you, DD. I try to only make it 4 degrees or less, but it always kicks my butt when I see that Venus is 5 or 6 degrees away - it's like, I can't bring myself to say it doesn't count, ya know. But in general, the tighter the orb the more strength it has.I would definitely preach 3 to 4 degrees, but man oh man, sometimes you gotta say, "If the shoe fits, wear it!" ...Yeah, once in a while it's kinda wide. Oh geez, I'm going back and forth, I need more coffee. IP: Logged | |
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