posted August 03, 2010 03:25 PM            

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You had the conjunction in Taurus, right? It kind of would go with the ironic theme I thinking of in these associations. When its over (and usually in a novela-ish way) we start to act out the planet that was a part of the Nodal contact in a not-so-evolved way in order to forget.

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BM, the NN-Venus conjunction was in Gemini (him Gemini Venus, me Gemini NN). But I do have Taurus Venus, yes. I think you were right about the coping method. I tried to become more rational and exclude any emotions when I analyzed our relationship. It almost turned me into a cynic. I had to focus on more practical issues, because I was in my final year at the University, I had to pass my residency exam in order to finally become a doctor. It was my escape and my salvation equally to focus on that and bury my head in the books (very Gemini like, yes).

posted August 03, 2010 03:42 PM            

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-conjunctions to SN refer to common past lives of the two persons - the planet person has a karmic duty to the SN person. The type of the karmic duty can be found by looking to the house position of the planet and the houses it rules.
-conjunctions to NN mean shared actions that the two must experience in this lifetime. This time, the karmic relationship is positive, resulting from pastlife connections, or could indicate a first encounter between two souls. Generally, this is an indication of a connection that will continue in a future life, as well.

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I will try to post the interpretations for each Node aspect soon.

posted August 03, 2010 04:20 PM            

The break-up was hard on me too. I was so depressed I couldn't care about anything. I gained a lot of weight that I am still struggling with (though I did lose like 10 kg, still have 10-15 to go) and I almost dropped out of Medschool. I had exams that I simply didn't go to, I didn't care about life in general, just drifted through it aimlessly. I don't remember when, but there was a turning point when I decided to put my life back on track. I still don't know how I managed to put myself together. When I look back at those times it makes my head spin. After that, I had to start from scratch in a new city, with a new job, new house, new friends. The whole experience was very hard for me, but it did make me grow as a person. I feel I have aged 20 years in only 3.

posted August 04, 2010 04:44 AM            

When your NN is in their 7th House or conjunct their descendant:

You bring partnership to the forefront. You are in this person's life because they are too focused on themselves & their independant tendencies have become exaggerated. Your job is to help them develop more awareness of "us" and grow in their ability to form successful partnerships so their life will become easier and more fulfilling.

As the NN person, you have a unique ability to help this person feel accepted, appreciated & loved. Your presence will most likely open their heart to you. Even if they are romantically involved with someone else, you are likely to give them good advice on how they can improve their relationship skills. They will be able to gain new insights about relationship situations through the process of sharing information with you.

You are also a positive influence in helping them develop skills of tact & diplomacy. You naturally see the ways in which they are avoiding confrontation or are not cooperating with others. When they have a crisis in their relationships, do not hesitate to become involved. You are good relationship karma for them, serving as a role model & giving them advice.

As you help them learn to share and "do it together," you can inadvertently drain energy from their sense of self identity. You are far more aware of them in their capacity to be a good partner than you are of their individual uniqueness. Ask them to let you know when they feel the need for more independance, time alone or support in pursuing their own interests.

Past Life Influences: If your SN also conjoins a planet in their first house, your connection is truly a matter of destiny--a contract to be fulfilled...and these influences will be felt much more strongly. It is possible that in a past incarnation, you pushed this person into independant activity at the expense of the joys of relationship. Whatever the past life circumstances, in this lifetime they carry the fear that they will be denied a happy marriage. You are in a unique position to help them heal this fear. In the process of supporting them having fulfilling relationships, any psychic scars you may carry from past incarnations with this soul will also be healed.

Dynamite,
Your welcome.

"Chances are you'll fall in love with this person-like it or not."
--That refers to the Venus person, who'll fall for the NN. It makes sense, because if Venus isnt attracted to NN on some level...it's hard for NN to be able to teach Venus anything. According to the book, NN encourages/teaches the Planet to grow from lessons involving the planet/house/sign. Of course NN learns things from the relationship as well.

posted August 04, 2010 05:46 AM            

This is why I thought Venus would be the one imparting lessons (in that particular area of life) and helping NN reach their spiritual goals.

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It makes sense, because if Venus isnt attracted to NN on some level...it's hard for NN to be able to teach Venus anything.

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Yeah - I could see that happening. I like this take on things also. I know I am learning a lot from this person (the NN person).

Izo - Here is our synastry:

About Sabian symbols - I thought I was meant to round up to the next degree.. So that would be 13 Aries. But I'm not sure.

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Thank God you made it through Medical School!

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posted August 05, 2010 04:02 PM            

Agent_009,
Thank you a lot! I'm having this aspect with a guy I met recently, who is divorced and in a relationship with an immature girl that he loves too much and who is already planning to replace him. I feel like I am supposed to comfort him and give him support in his relationships, even though I am the DC person. He tried to hook me up with his best friend (so he's also trying to improve my relationships), but that has little chance of working out.

posted August 05, 2010 04:05 PM            

I am sorry to hear that it was that hard for you.

posted August 05, 2010 05:43 PM            

again, I am sorry for what you had to go through. But probably it was a big lesson for you.

I do disagree with one thing you said though:
" I thought I had the right to pursue him because he was the big love of my life (that part is true and I think it will always be), but you can't build your happiness on another person's unhappiness. "
I donīt recall the exact background, but if it was that both of you were interested in him, it was his choice.
In what way have you been selfish? Because you acted on your feelings?
Would it have been better to suppress and deny them? (this is something I have been doing all my life, and it`s not good either).
She did act on her feelings, too, didn`t she?

posted December 19, 2010 05:11 AM            

thanks for your contribution about NN-venus, but I was wondering if there is anything in that book about NN-sun and NN-moon? and anything about NN-saturn being described as a relationship that won't ever get off the ground in a romantic sense?

posted December 19, 2010 06:26 AM            

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If this is a male/female association, sometimes they wonder what it would be like to be lovers, although realizing it won't happen in this lifetime as circumstances are not convenient for it.

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OH Brother! Did that ever hit the nail on the head?

Read my post on page 5 - as Dy-na-mi-tee.
His NN is conj my own NN and my Venus (1 deg orb).

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I'll just quote... I said:

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As I was saying I'm in love with a Leo guy. There have been outside problems and reasons we are not together officially yet, but I'm sure we will be one day. I've never felt hurt by him. I feel very lucky to know him.

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posted December 19, 2010 06:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
To update that ^ I no longer feel sure that we'll be together at all, ever.

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posted December 19, 2010 07:08 AM            

sun - nn
a new connection that is future oriented. This is a mutually beneficial contact in which each person can be a boost in furthering the career of the other. The NN person is like a ray of sunshine, promoting optimism for the future, and can help the sun person to gain more recognition for any creative efforts, while the sun person provides a boost of energy that helps the other in their social ambitions and getting a better sense of their unique identity. This is a harmonious, free-flowing, encouraging contact. Each person is willing to invest in the relationship even if it is deficient in some departments because they anticipate a future (lifetime) connection. The luck or fortune for each will be found mainly in the respective houses occupied by the NN and occupied and ruled by the sun. This tie is improved if one of the individuals is a male. There is often a fatherly role taken by one of the individuals"

Moon-NN: An intense emotional tie and instant attraction. While this relationship immediately feels meant to be, the moon individual often initiates this association and offers nurturing to the NN individual, feeling that NN is lacking in that department. Moon tries to be a good role model demonstrating a commitment to protecting the safety and security of NN. The NN person does much to encourage these nurturing/mothering qualities in the Moon person. These become the dominant themes in the relationship creating an almost unbreakable bond. Sometimes the two become so wrapped up in these roles of providing mutual emotional security and sympathy that they lose touch with the outer world. The moon person often gives the most, thought content with this role. The NN person usually feels the most nervousness in the exchange. The tie is stronger if one person is female. This relationship may have continuations for many lifetimes.

Saturn-NN
This is a serious association in which both parties assume responsibilities. This relationship is slow in forming and some circumstances must exist that forces them together - they would not simply be attracted through any sort of magnetism. The Saturn person gives tangible material help to NN and the NN helps ease the burden that Saturn carries. Even though this is a future oriented association with mutual opportunity and mutual interests, it is among the most difficult relationships to maintain due to the seriousness and responsibility it entails. Once it gets going and stabilizes, it may enjoy longevity, though it is usually too stifling for marriage and works better between two who live apart."