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Ami Ann
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posted July 31, 2010 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Izo, I think that, too. I think that IF you want to get close to him in the coming days you can but,of course, the inevitable hurt may not be worth it.
For me, it would not.
I can only take so much pain and then my heart closes and I am gone.
I cry and cry and each day it gets less and then I don't feel it anymore.


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posted July 31, 2010 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just realized his Nessus squares my Dejanira within 1 deg orb...
Not that our synastry is all peachy and this is the only indicator for disaster, but wow... It's actually that bad.

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posted July 31, 2010 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was freaked by Nessus but IQ has a Nessus/Venus square with his wife so that helped mitigate the fear of Nessus a little lol


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PS Do you have Pluto in synastry with him? If so--which aspects?

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posted July 31, 2010 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some.
His Pluto in opposition to my Sun (widely), Mercury (and Dejanira), quincunx my Venus and squares my Asc.
My Pluto squares his Mercury and trines his Venus.

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posted July 31, 2010 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How close is the Pluto trine Venus? That might be what is killing you lol
Pluto is obsession material. There is no way around it.
Time and tears will take it away but it takes both and it HURTS.

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posted August 01, 2010 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's 1 deg orb. It could be a combination of things, like his Venus on my NN, his personal planets in my 5th, 7th and 8th houses... Who knows?
Take a look at our synastry and composite. I wonder how others view it, I am sure my opinion about it is biased. I don't know his birth time, but I am 80% sure he is Virgo Asc (I choose a late Asc to have Mars in his 1st because he has a reddish skin tone).


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posted August 01, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Izo
I will look more later but I see his Chiron on your Venus.
When I had that with a g/f ,it was a tight, effortless type of bond--an understanding of each other even though we were very different.
It felt like an opposites attract type of thing but was so strange that we "got" each other.


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posted August 01, 2010 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My SN guy and I have his Chiron on my Venus exact too! Also aspecting the the SN connection.

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posted August 01, 2010 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most guys 3 years (or less) older than me will have their Chiron on my Venus. But you are right about something, I've met LOTS of Chiron conjunctions in long-lasting relationships (whether friendships, romantic, family or working relationships). I wonder why that is.


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Does "Cosmic Love" include an interpretation for NN conjunct DC? I never had this one before and just today I realized I share it with a guy for whom I also have a deep affinity, even before I've met him. Today I received a sign it might be mutual. He is NN, I am DC. I wonder what it says about it, if it's not too much to ask.

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posted August 01, 2010 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it helps when the aspect is exact!

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posted August 01, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 02, 2010 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo - I like that you have a Sun-Sun trine in orb. I think that itself is enough to ensure the situation will not be a repeat of your Taurus ex.

As I was saying I'm in love with a Leo guy (actually my Sun is 12'something in Aries -- so I have the same Sabian symbol lol Our suns are in the Leo decanate). There have been outside problems and reasons we are not together officially yet, but I'm sure we will be one day. I've never felt hurt by him. I feel very lucky to know him.

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posted August 02, 2010 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 02, 2010 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Chances are you'll fall in love with this person-like it or not. Their purpose in your life is to teach you how to love & experience pleasure.

Agent 009 - Thanks for posting those interpretations. I'm a little confused though. Was that for the Venus person or about the Venus person?

I would've thought Venus teaches NN "how to love" etc..

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posted August 02, 2010 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo, I've missed you too! You're one of the 1st people I spoke with here, so you're like Old School Feels So Good Lindaland to me. You make me wanna break out my adidas and breakdance. TMI?

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Perhaps I could understand that, what I don't understand is why perpetuate this, why not make it official, honest and true? These people don't care about changing their situation, which perplexes me. Sometimes it feels like nobody respects marriage anymore.

It's not that your Leo doesn't honor marriage, it's that he doesn't honor his girlfriend's particular marriage. Gemini is all about the particulars. It gives you episodes seemingly isolated from the main storyline. Maybe in this disconnected bubble, he's able to learn things about himself that he wouldn't in a more conventional relationship?

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posted August 02, 2010 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right back at Ya----Dyn-a

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posted August 02, 2010 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
see... people are talking about Dejanira in this thread too... I have been trying really hard to get someone to tell me what Dejanira actually means and nobody will tell me... will someone help me out here? LOL

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posted August 02, 2010 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my NN/Venus experience... I'm the NN

He fell head over heels with me, freaked out and disappeared. And I'm still stuck with the heartache of it all- I have no clue how he is feeling... (plus it hurts to lose a 12 yr friendship that went along with it before the romance started...)

He stop talking to me almost 3 months ago and if I think about it too much I still cry about the whole situation...

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posted August 03, 2010 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should put the charts up, Racole.
I think Dejanira is where you will be a victim.If it has hard aspects in your natal chart ,you could be victimized.
I am assuming that if it has hard aspects in synastry---that relationship could victimize you---but I could be wrong on both accounts lol.

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PS I learned from grieving a death that the most important things in healing are tears.
Tears are SO precious and whenever I cry or see someone cry--I am thankful for it.
When you can't cry, it is very hard (impossible, maybe) to heal. That is my experience.
My music teacher came in to my life at this time. I would sing or play the guitar and the dissolve in to tears.
He sat there--totally unmoved.
He said,"Tears are God's way of healing.
Sometimes, I would even rock back and forth in grief and he did not bat an eye
That is a very special guy LOL.
I could not cry for a long time after this death.
When the grief is SO bad, you can't cry.
I don't know if you can/do cry but I just wanted to share that with you.

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posted August 03, 2010 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a synastry aspect with someone with Dejanira to the minute so I was curious... it's conj my DSC and Mars... his Dejanira. I can't even find anything on the internet...

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posted August 03, 2010 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dy-na,
Welcome back! Yup, our Suns are trined almost exactly. They are actually part of a Grand trine, with my Jupiter-Uranus in Sagittarius. I think that's a nice one, too. I enjoy spending time with him and we laugh A LOT.
If your Sun is 12 something Aries, your Sabian is a different one, it's the one about the bomb which failed to explode. The best friend that fell for the Bull had her Sun (and Mars) at 12 Aries. Personally, I think this is a good Sabian, bringing luck in avoiding potentially distructive, explosive situations, but might also hint to internal turmoil.
It would be interesting to see your synastry with your Leo guy.

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Agent 009 - Thanks for posting those interpretations. I'm a little confused though. Was that for the Venus person or about the Venus person?

I think it was for the Venus person, about the NN person. Could be wishful thinking, though. LOL. I think the NN is the teacher, like if my NN falls in your 5th house, my purpose in your life is to bring insight into your 5th house matters. With the Bull, I felt like I needed to show him how love should be like, I didn't feel it the other way around.

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posted August 03, 2010 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Janey,
Breakdance away, hun! I'm in a dancing mood also heehee.

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It's not that your Leo doesn't honor marriage, it's that he doesn't honor his girlfriend's particular marriage. Gemini is all about the particulars. It gives you episodes seemingly isolated from the main storyline.

I think you might be right about this. They were colleagues in college, so they know each other for like 10 years, but they got hitched after she got married. WTF?! They had time, why get together after she gets married?! I don't understand this because he seems like the person who would want to marry the person he loves, I don't see how this situation satisfies his needs. I think sooner or later he would want to settle down, but she is already settled. And she's Taurus Sun with Leo Moon, so FIXED, I don't know if she is the divorcing type. In my opinion, if they were to break-up, this would be the reason. Saturn, Uranus and Jupiter all square his Venus, perhaps this is a time of reconsideration for him regarding relationships and his needs. And hopefully he will come to his senses and realize they don't really have a future unless she gets a divorce.

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posted August 03, 2010 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane, you got me thinking on the 'particulars'. The guy I shared the Venus/NN connection with in gemini had a Sag stellium and I was forever getting annoyed with him for missing the 'little' things. Maybe that was his lesson....


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After Bull, I felt exactly the same. I couldn't even come here and read the soulmate threads. I focused on anything else but love - mainly career. Got my feet firmly set in reality.
All that went PUFF! the instant I laid eyes on Leo guy a year ago. I don't know what it is about him that got me so smitten. People are trying to hook me up with other guys... and I feel nothing for them, not one ounce of interest. He comes along and knees go weak. ARGHH!!


You had the conjunction in Taurus, right? It kind of would go with the ironic theme I thinking of in these associations. When its over (and usually in a novela-ish way) we start to act out the planet that was a part of the Nodal contact in a not-so-evolved way in order to forget. Mine was Venus in Gemini so I have suppressed any sort of depth I might feel in romance, in order to bounce along in life. You, the Taurean Venus, decided to bury yourself in more practical matters. Meh, nevermind....Im not making sense when I read this aloud.

In the latest news: I met someone two weeks ago who's moon possibly conjuncts my SN. It sucks because it was a case of passing ships. Im trying not to pine after him, but there's so many reasons to bang my head on the wall for letting him slip away.

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posted August 03, 2010 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Racole,
IQ is the expert on Dejanira around here. You should ask him about it. Bull had his Mars square my Dejanira and IQ said he tried to assure his dominance by being sexually aggressive. It was true, in a way, but I didn't let him have his way and consequently we never consumated the relationship.
What you said about NN-Venus is how I feel about this aspect, too. My experience with the Bull was similar, except for the 12-year friendship.

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posted August 03, 2010 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey do any of you know how to calculate the odds of this aspect playing out in synastry...

Venus changes signs every two months or so... but what are the odds of someone's Venus/Mars conjunction landing on your SN?

I tried to google this transit happening, and it seems to be rare...I couldn't find anything about the synastry or transit.. but just how rare is it?

Any ideas? On how to determine the odds?

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