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Fairy Sparkles
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posted October 08, 2010 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fairy Sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
I have libra intercepted in my first house.

So I am virgo rising with mercury in cancer.

Libra in first with venus in leo in the 12th house.

I am not typical cancerian or leo like.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
You have Pluto and Saturn in the 1st,too, right, Fairy Sparkles?

Add those, if you like, and also,say which houses have Scorpio and Cap on the cusp.

Also, add the aspects made to Pluto and Saturn

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
You know, Benedict, when I first "met" you, I felt that outer crust
I thought you were snobby lol
Then, I realized the deeper qualities inside.
Now, I think you would be a loyal friend someone could count on in thick and thin.
I think you would be upfront and direct.
You would not say one thing to someone's face and another to their back.
IF you were someone's friend, they would be lucky

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Oh,Lonake
I was going through seeing which ones I would do, today.
I am sorry you deleted yours. It was FASCINATING.
Consider putting it back up. I am going through them one by one so it will take me a while to get there.
You have so many different sides to your personality.
I wanted to ask you about the Leo vs.Pisces aspects.
Well, do what you feel comfortable but I would love to discuss it with you

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message

quote:
1st in Gemini.
Mercury in Aquarius in 9th house
conjunct Sun
trine Moon, Chiron (grand trine)
sextile Jupiter, Mars

ASC opposite Saturn, Uranus

I want someone else to interpret these aspects for me lol. I think it would be interesting.

I have strong Sag vibes (and also because my Sun's rulers are in Sag). Besides Aqua, someone said I was Sag-like (and then someone else said Leo... which would make sense since my chart ruler is conjunct my Sun).


Amwowls
I am gonna ask you a few more questions, if I can.
Your Sun is in Aqua in the 9th. It conjuncts Mercury.
So, you are a VERY strong Aqua.
It trines Moon and Chiron and sextiles Jupiter and Mars.
So, it would seem that you would have easy access to ALL those energies--the moon(emotions),Chiron( no one really gets that but ,perhaps, self healing and healing for others lol)Jupiter(generousity, optimism) and Mars(good self assertion and drive)
*I* have noticed that you have good self assertion ,here.
You carry a good stick and I mean that in the best of senses cuz I am trying to get mine
We HAVE to defend ourselves(Mars) or we are up a creek.
This does not refer to ANY incident or situation just a general sense that you are assertive as a natural part of yourself.
Is that true? Does it come easily to you?
You said you can feel your emotions ,easily.

With Chiron in such a good position, do you feel confident in handling your OWN wounds cuz Chiron is the healer who never doea heal but he helps others,still.

You alluded to a little of this. How does this work in your life.

Chiron is just plain hard to understand lol

I will stop there and then ask you about the oppositions to your ASC,later.
I love your answers. Thank you

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Please start with the first house--ONLY.
Please say which planet rules it.
Then, WHERE is that planet.
How does that ONE placement effect you?

1st house = Scorpio
Pluto in the 11th, using Placidus.
I'm not sure right now... unless you've seen some of my posts about my younger years, with bullying, Mars in the 4th = some violence towards me from one person, and more cruelty from another. (Mars is Scorpio's co-ruler.)
I wanted to join in here, but I'm not in such a hot mood - I'm in an angry, self-pitying mood. (Although that made me smile, for some reason. Laughing at myself, knowing that it won't help anything.)

quote:
What aspects are to that ONE planet,if you want to add that?

Saturn square, from the 9th.
Jupiter opposed, from the 5th.
Wide trine from Moon, Venus, South Node. Exact trine (?) from Vertex. All at the beginning of the 8th.

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Also, IS there a planet in the first house?
If so, which one?
Which house is the sign that rules that planet?

Uranus isn't in the 1st, but it is conjunct from the 12th. Some say that a planet that close to the cusp should be interpreted in the 1st.
The 4th house is ruled by that planet. (It switches to Pisces, about 16* in.)

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HOW does the house activities effect you?

I'm not sure how to answer this... didn't I go into this in the 4th house thread?


I didn't read the 4th house thread cuz I don't have any planets there

OK---Where do you think your Pluto is,based on how YOU perceive it?

I will be back lol

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posted October 08, 2010 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not SUPER assertive. It's easier if we're not face to face lol. I have a Libra Moon so I like to avoid confrontation, but when necessary, I just say a few choice words and I run away lol. My Mars (Sag) is in my 6th, a subservient house. I do get a mutual reception trine from Jupiter (in Aries in the 11th), so it helps. I'm finding myself more and more assertive as I get older.

Chiron is hard to figure out. I don't FEEL wounded, like I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I had a pleasant childhood.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
You have Sun trine Moon, Amwols.
That is an indicator of a happy childhood,isn't it?

You don't see Sun trine moon very often, I don't think.
OK--you are not super assertive but you stand up for yourself.
That is the best way--a balance not a super aggressor LOL

I was thinking about Chiron. Maybe, you can use YOUR wounds to help others cuz yours were not SO deep that they disabled you.
I have not seen Chiron trine the Sun very often,either.
My theory ,for Chiron, if I were to base it just on your chart lol would be that if you have a good childhood and Chiron in a good relationship with your ego(Sun) and Mercury there ,too,perhaps, you can USE your life experiences to heal others.

You seem to want to have a career in service from what I remember. Am I right?


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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Teasel,
Are your Saturn squares etc to Pluto or Mars?

Ok You have a Scorp ASC. Mars is in the 4th. That makes sense that there was the Mars issue(bullying) in the early home/home life.

So, you have Pluto in the 11th. The 11th is your place as a social creature ,DD said.

So, do you feel a shake up about your social situation.
The 11th is our goals and dreams, too.

Do you relate to Pluto being there?

I will stop here and wait until you answer my question about the squares


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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Before I leave yours, Aya, I wanted to ask you question about the Neptune /Venus conjunction in the 1st house.


If you think of your past relationships, did you SEE them one way at first(through rose colored glasses) and then ,later, wake up and say ,"Whhaaaa ??"

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posted October 08, 2010 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
Good question, Ami... I can't say I really saw many ex's through rose-tinted glasses. Perhaps my most recent one, I did have the illusion there that things would get better, but that's pretty relative, because anyone would keep their hopes up in such a situation as long as they get enough material to keep that hope up.

With my other ex partners... I don't know. I didn't generally expect much from them, our being together was usually lust-driven. I kinda saw them (with exception of one or two, but I'll leave them out, because they're only a minority in this) as a pit-stop on the way to mr Right. No, seriously!


No questions about mercury-uranus?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Okay 1st house ruler would be leo, and the planet the sun...

However, I do have mercury conjunct asendant...and saturday is also in that house too. but I might be getting too far too quick



I assume Saturday is Saturn

So, you have Mercury conjunct the ASC.
Did you mean Saturn was in the 1st house?

OK ---So you have a Leo ASC.

Here are the questions I am asking:

Which house is your Sun in?
What are the aspects to it?
Which planets are in the 1st house(Mercury and Saturn,I think)
What are the aspects to the planets in the first house

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Benedict
I am gonna try to look at the aspects to Saturn.
You have a Cap ASC. Saturn is in the 12th house conjunct Uranus(Wowser lol)
Saturn squares Mars in the 3rd house.Saturn opposes Chiron in the 6th house.

Saturn conjunct Uranus(I assume Uranus is in the 12th too. Am I right?) is an interesting aspect.
Saturn wants to go slow and follow the rules. Uranus wants to break free and do it's own thing,unencumbered by rules and restrictions.
This aspect makes you have to find a way to balance these two energies.
If you do, you can blaze new trails.

Saturn in the 12th squares Mars in the 3rd
This square puts cold water on the Mars drive to the point where you may want to "give up" altogether.
It seems like the "go under the bed" aspect lol
It makes you afraid of asserting yourself for fear of rejection.
Is that true? You alluded to that.
I am thinking about the houses.

Saturn in the 12th wants to stay away from life cuz it hurts too much.

Mars in the house of communication/the mind wants to communicate/express itself cuz the 3rd house is Gemini's house but Saturn may take the wind out of Mars drive for communication by giving insecurity to your desire to communicate.
Is this true?

You seem like you have two "depression" aspects--Saturn in 12th and Mars square Saturn.
Chiron in the 6th opposes Saturn in the 12th.
Chiron is hard to figure out.
You have it in the house of service( the 6th)
It opposes Saturn in the 12th.

Hmmm--will need to think about it and come back lol


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posted October 08, 2010 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, thanks for going to the trouble!

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posted October 08, 2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Communication was a huger problem for me when I was younger, but not so much today. Anger was more the issue though; I was a very destructive child...LOL, and I was labeled for that by my teachers, parents, caregivers, etc. The stigma of it totally inhibited the anger from 2nd grade on into highschool. But even through then, it would come out in flashes. Today I still have to check myself; when I do blow up, I end up feeling guilty afterwards. I keep thinking its more of the Water Sun/Fires Mars combo that does it, but I'm sure this aspect has more to do with it.

My Mars/Uranus square is more tightly orbed than my Mars/Saturn square which would explain why I project saturn more: I'm pretty rebellious and whenever I try to blaze a trail without forethought, everything crumbles or I meet serious roadblocks.


Saturn conjunct Uranus is like an echo of my Ascendant problems. People (try to) pidgeonhole me into roles based on st00pid stereotypes where I'm just trying to be my own person.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Benedict, does the Mars square Saturn seem right? Chiron is hard to figure our

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posted October 08, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I explained it in my previous post.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks ,Benedict!
I am gonna leave Chiron cuz it seems too hard lol

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posted October 08, 2010 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Mblake
You have a Virgo ASC and Mercury in the 2nd house.
The material issues of the world are important aspects of your essential self.
This includes self esteem.

You are a real world based person, I would think and can handle real world things.
Mercury makes good aspects so I would think you do well in the real, material world.
It sextiles Venus(1 deg) and Mars (2 degrees).
It is B quintile the MC.
The B quintile is talents to be used for the outside world i.e.society.
Mercury opposes Chiron but I am gonna leave Chiron ,for now lol
I will be back after I look these aspects up

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posted October 08, 2010 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Sure, Ami, if you have questions about it, np
I just put it back.
btw i have a new signature and now it's not even showing up, can they be too long, I wonder?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2010 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Great ,Lonake. I am SO glad you put it back. There is a lot of meat in there
After I come back from going out for dinner, I can't wait to read it .
I got the books you recommended, Lonake. One came,today.

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posted October 08, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Ooh, o yea? Which one? O wait, is it about the house rulerships? I want to know what you think about it!

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posted October 08, 2010 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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Dear Teasel,
Are your Saturn squares etc to Pluto or Mars?
Ok You have a Scorp ASC. Mars is in the 4th. That makes sense that there was the Mars issue(bullying) in the early home/home life.

So, you have Pluto in the 11th. The 11th is your place as a social creature ,DD said.

So, do you feel a shake up about your social situation.
The 11th is our goals and dreams, too.

Do you relate to Pluto being there?

I will stop here and wait until you answer my question about the squares


Saturn squares Pluto in the 9th, and opposes Jupiter in the 5th. I was just thinking the other night, that I might feel better about things right now, if I were doing something good - working in something that fulfilled me and helped others in some way, whether it be directly, or indirectly (like one woman, who bought a painting of mine when I was nineteen, who said that she bought it because it looked 'spiritual'). I got way off-track where that's concerned.

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posted October 08, 2010 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
BenedictMoon,
" I think my Immediate crust is very murky, or not very apparent to me."
How can one seem murky, I wonder.

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Now I don't want to hear any whining.

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