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Predominantlyfire
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posted October 11, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Predominantlyfire     Edit/Delete Message
Teasel, Ami mentioned you to me on msn today. And the fact you have no earth etc - which i always admire. Can i add you on msn please. Or you add me. I'm neutralcruiser@hotmail.co.uk
Thanks.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Teasel
You have no earth.
Well, I am trying to write the paragraph.
I am gonna talk out loud to see if I can get a feel.
You have a Scorp ASC with Uranus conjunct it(or close)
That makes you kind of different, in a way, cuz you are Plutonian AND Uranian.
To me,they are opposites.
The energy seems like stripes and checks lol
So, you would have a striped shirt and checked pants, perhaps lol

With Uranus ,you have 3 aspects--Uranus trine Mars, oppose moon and trine NN.

This would give you drive and innovative thinking ( the Mars trine)
You would suffer from the Moon/Uranus opposition, though, in disorganization ,maybe.

I can see these two aspects as giving you opposite directions

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
These two Uranus aspects give you opposite strengths and opposite weaknesses ,if you want to say that.
You have great drive to do innovative things but your emotions could make you feel fried like you put your hand in an electric socket lol.
The Uranus trine to the NN would make the favor be in your strengths to GET to where you want.
Uranus trining the NN is telling you "You can DO it, Sister " lol
It is saying that if you pull on the Mars ,you can overcome the moon and get to your goals (NN)

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posted October 11, 2010 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Uranus and Pluto have some things in common. Both are seen as destroyers or agents of change.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Please, Amwols, add info

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posted October 11, 2010 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
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Uranus, God of the sky and the heavens, is the ruler of Aquarius. In Astrology, the energies of Uranus are electric and crammed with change. Uranus is forward-looking. It balks at tradition, and celebrates originality and individuality. Uranus is associated with technology, innovation, discovery, and all that is progressive.

On the up side, Uranus is associated with enlightenment, progressiveness, objectivity, novelty, and ingenuity. Negative expression of Uranus is rebelliousness without a cause and irresponsibility.

When Uranus is not developed, it reacts; but when natives are truly in tune with its energies, Uranus is highly intuitive. It represents the spark of intuition that spurs invention. We can see Uranus as the intuition that sparks further studies or investigation.

In the chart, the position of Uranus by sign will be shared with other people in the same generation due to the comparatively slow movement of Uranus in the heavens. By house, the position of Uranus shows where individuals look to stir things up, put a new spin on situations, and go against established thought or order. Uranus aspecting other planets in the chart color those energies with some willfulness, quirkiness, and originality. Where we find Uranus in the chart is where we see some refusal to blend in with others (and situations), and some erratic life patterns.


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Pluto, God of the Underworld, is the ruler of Scorpio. (In Greek mythology, the corresponding god was Hades). In Astrology, the energies of Pluto are transforming. Pluto represents subconscious forces, ruling all that is "below the surface".

On the up side, Pluto is associated with renewal and rebirth. It represents endings and new beginnings, as well as spiritual growth and rebirth. Negative expression of Pluto is an obsessive desire for power and control and general destructiveness.

In the chart, the position of Pluto by sign will be shared with other people in the same generation due to the comparatively slow movement of Pluto, the outermost planet, in the heavens. By house, the position of Pluto shows where individuals search for truths and deeper meaning. This area of life may be associated with change, upheaval, power struggles, and issues of control. Pluto in aspect to other planets in the chart colors those energies with obsessive qualities, power struggles, the need to find deeper meanings, and willingness to explore and examine. Where we find Pluto in the chart is where we either seek change and transformation, or have it thrust upon us if we refuse to accept our deepest needs. If we fear Pluto's energies, or our "dark" side, destructiveness (both directed at ourselves or others) is a byproduct.


Both are from Cafe Astrology.

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teasel
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posted October 11, 2010 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, Uranus is inconjunct my Moon/Venus, but thank you. Uranus is widely opposed my Sun, though - and tightly opposed my descendant.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
(((Teasel))))

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Amwols
I am trying to do a paragraph for you.
I missed Chiron conjunct the ASC(or close).
I looked it up and wanted to ask you about it.

Chiron, the wounded healer, gives a sense of unrest about ourselves, guilt which seems it has no cause and a sense of a wound that we are in the process of healing but never totally does.
We can help other people but we always feel like we ,ourselves, are healing from the things with which we are called upon to help.

Since this is so close to your ASC. Can you relate?
If so, how/how not?

You said you had a good childhood. I, wrongly so, think that anyone who has a good childhood has things easy.
I know this sounds silly.

How does Chiron function for you?

I discussed your Mercury in the 9th house in Aqua in past posts so I won't go in to that now cuz I don't have more info.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Aya
I wanted to talk about Mercury conjunct Uranus.
This makes for a fast thinker.
Sometimes, the person will think and not feel.
Uranus is an energy of wanting to do it's own thing so much that the person will sometimes be so set on this that they don't consider what it is doing to others and other's feelings.
They want to be honest to such a degree that this can trump other factors such as other people's needs or what is needed to be done in a situation.

They are fast thinkers and honest about what they are thinking.
My mother is an Aqua so I am not objective about Uranus.
What do you think, Aya?
How does it apply?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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LEO rising
SUN in PISCES, 8th
SUN square URANUS in SAGITTARIUS

So I basically get more attention than I'm comfortable with, as my Sun wants to evade and just mellow out somewhere quiet. But, nope, that's not for me. Sun is square Uranus, from Pisces WATER to Sagittarius FIRE, water and fire square plus a Leo FIRE rising, yea, I get a lil excitable, in a very playful manner. That is what makes me stand out, and gives me energy. I'm pulled in 2 different directions, 1 is to lean back and observe, analyze, stay quiet, the other wants to just act and react to everything and expresses enthusiasm from the LEO and SAGITTARIUS combined. Put me next to someone who has something in early ARIES to form a Grand Trine, and we will be Fireworks together, and loud. Normally my voice is very soft, singsong so people will be surprised when they see us together.

But BOTH energies are expressed, one doesn't cancel the other out. And sometimes being excitable can feel draining and I will ALL OF A SUDDEN feel as if I've shown too many of my cards, revealed too much, so then I will pull the biggest Leo rising, Sun in 8th act you've ever seen. Quiet, inscrutable, relying 100% on instinct, on intuition, not saying much and being very cautious as to what I reveal, paying attention to the atmosphere, to others' moods, their feelings, and basically pawing around like a cat who's too good for you, unless she makes it up in her mind that you are, then 100% loyal.

This drives everyone I know UP THE WALL!

They can't figure me out, they don't know where to place me, am I social or introvert, playful or serious, superficial or deep, oblivious or perceptive, carefree or wanting commitment, on and on and on.
The -truth- is that I'm all those things.
But I can't express the Leo/Uranian Fire side and the Pisces/h8 side -at the same time-.
Eventually I'll get tired of one mode of expression and switch to the other.
This leaves people sometimes wary, sometimes intrigued, it depends on the person. But I never stay the same. I've noticed it tends to p!ss off the Fixed signs more than the others, because they want you to stay the same because then that means they have you in their grips, change is a no-no cos then they don't know where to place you. Mutables tend to love me.

No planets in 1st, or conj from the 12th or 2nd.


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posted October 11, 2010 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Yessum?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lonake
I am just starting to meditate on YOU

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Gragham
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posted October 12, 2010 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gragham     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the lovely comment, Ami Anne...
Leos ands flattery... works like a charm.

You're quite busy here, btw!

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message

Gragham--- you charming devil

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Do you feel like this ,Lonake? How/how not?

sun square uranus
Sun square Uranus
A square formed between the Sun and Uranus shows that you are impulsive and unpredictable. You go your own way and do your own thing without much concern about what others think. You are original, but sometimes impractical. You like to do what you want, when you want. Nervous and accident prone, you may sometimes think you have a dark cloud following you. Your periodic unwillingness to follow rules may hamper your progress. With maturity, your views may remain eccentric and liberal, but they become more broadly based and humanitarian

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lonake
I was thinking about your energy. It does feel Uranian and Piscean, too. Also, I can feel the Leo in there.
Yes, they are a strange mix lol
I can see how you would feel like you were a split personality ,sometimes
Perhaps, this happens when the energies are so different. Do you think so?
Ok You are a Leo ASC and Sun is in the 8th house.
You want to know the deeper meanings of things. You are an astrologer. That would reflect this.
The 8th house is delayed maturation or a repressed planet, according to Saspratos.
Can you relate to your ego maturing late?
I can lol
So, you as a person(1st house/essential self) is interested in 8th house matters i.e taboo /hidden subjects.
I am have Gem on the 8th house cusp so I TALK about them


Did you tell me which house Uranus was in?

Where is your moon,Lonake just for curiosity. What is it's house and aspects, too? lol

I am gonna do yours slowly and come back and forth.

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posted October 12, 2010 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
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Dear Aya
I wanted to talk about Mercury conjunct Uranus.
This makes for a fast thinker.
Sometimes, the person will think and not feel.
Uranus is an energy of wanting to do it's own thing so much that the person will sometimes be so set on this that they don't consider what it is doing to others and other's feelings.
They want to be honest to such a degree that this can trump other factors such as other people's needs or what is needed to be done in a situation.

They are fast thinkers and honest about what they are thinking.
My mother is an Aqua so I am not objective about Uranus.
What do you think, Aya?
How does it apply?


I don't exactly know about the fast thinking. I would like to say yes but I really don't want to come over as saying "I'm just very smart" - because that's up to everyone else to decide... So yeah I'm a fast thinker, but that doesn't imply anything else from my point of view. Just the fact that I often lie awake in bed because my mind is still racing at a thousand miles an hour. It also explains why I seem impulsive, but am not (not always, at least ) I just think things through in an instant. Granted, sometimes I should spend more time thinking things through, but usually my "impulsive" acts are quite well thought through.

Think and not feel: years ago I was told that this was my Moon opposite mercury, that causes confusion and with mercury in the first I'd lean more towards it. Then I was told that Gemini moon isn't all too emotional either, rationalises emotions, which can seem very un-emotional too. I've never heard of the Uranus-Mercury conjunction being blamed for that, but it does make a bit of sense. I would say that the whole merc-uran-moon interaction is just a very unlucky one for my emotions

I do seem to be more rational than emotional at times, and often say something without considering what that would do with someone emotionally.

As for the being honest: I do have a tendency to be honest to the brink of painful. I have a zero-tolerance against lying myself so I'm certainly not going to do it to someone else! (Incidentally, I have a zero tolerance against hypocrisy as well)

So with a tiny bit of reservation, I would say it certainly fits me.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Aya You are cute !

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posted October 12, 2010 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Lonake, I am thinking you have Sag on the 5th house cusp?
If so, what is a 5th house Uranus like for you?
How does the 8th house Sun square the 5th house Uranus play out, if you can say


PS NOW I have both men---- AND


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posted October 12, 2010 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
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Chiron, the wounded healer, gives a sense of unrest about ourselves, guilt which seems it has no cause and a sense of a wound that we are in the process of healing but never totally does.
We can help other people but we always feel like we ,ourselves, are healing from the things with which we are called upon to help.

Since this is so close to your ASC. Can you relate?
If so, how/how not?

You said you had a good childhood. I, wrongly so, think that anyone who has a good childhood has things easy.
I know this sounds silly.

How does Chiron function for you?


My chart is all trines and sextiles except for the squares to my Venus. I think I had an easy life, but it's all because I perceive it that way. Looking at my life objectively, my parents fought/fight a lot and my dad was out of a job sometimes. People with harsher aspects in their chart might take that and think that their lives are difficult.

The only thing I seem to be constantly working on is my love life. I feel that its the only dynamic or uncertain thing about my life. I have Venus in an exact square to Saturn/Uranus and a loose square to Chiron.

As far as Chiron is concerned, I'm not sure how it really manifests. I do take my own experiences and use that to give other people advice.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Amwols
Chiron is a hard one to grasp. A stylist is really a shrink lol
That might be perfect cuz you could give but not need to be responsible for the people lol

OK, I see what you are saying about Venus square Uranus.
I feel so jealous when someone has a good childhood .
Ray says everyone has issues to overcome. I guess I am just being immature

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