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Topic: Really, guys? Must you accentuate it? - Asteroids + Space.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 05:04 AM
"Where perception is absent, a word arises right on time." (translation of a quote, taken from "Faust" by Goethe)
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 3013 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 21, 2010 05:05 AM
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woah cakes Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 21, 2010 05:32 AM
[forget it.]lindaland is losing its marbles.
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 09:42 AM
quote: Relationships are complex.Will I ever experience love at first sight again with anyone other than the man who has his Aphrodite conjunct my ASC and my Aphrodite conjunct his Moon. No, I think not.
I guess that I'll just quote what I wrote in my last post about this: quote: That being said, each object represents a specific part of ourselves, that they can't be substituted by others (for example, having Moon-Moon compatibility doesn't give the romantic feelings a Valentine-AC conjunction gives, but Valentine-AC conjunction can't substitute the lack of Moon-Moon compatibility too - each aspect only shows what the objects symbolically represents).
Hmm I guess that to demonstrate what I was trying to explain, I'll use my own case as example. Me and my bf have his Valentine conjunct my AC and some other romantic asteroid conjunctions/aspects, and I can see how these nice aspects are shown our relationship. But on the other hand, we lack of some personal planets compatibility (like Moon-Moon), and we do lack of some compatibility in those areas sometimes, despite the beautiful feelings related to the asteroids aspects. I'm not saying that asteroids are not relevant - as I've mentioned before, I'm also interested in them, and I do use them frequently. What I was saying is that it's important to not to forget what each object - whether one of the main objects (planets, angles, etc.) or an asteroid - represents. *edited again lol* IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 2389 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 11:40 AM
Comica, Nobody is supposed to even begin checking the Asteroids in synastry until the basic filter of an Ascendant aspect and then a planetary harmony aspect is fulfilled. Once the basics are satisfied, then we look into the Asteroids for intricate information. The fear of Asteroids usually comes from a misunderstanding of how they work. The "Name Frequency" concept cannot be grasped by those who do not understand subtle planes of existence, and their interaction from the Unconscious to the Conscious Mind.Take Nessus, the Centaur that makes a fool out of Asteroid skeptics by repeatedly proving its deadly effects. I have given more than 30 examples over the months in this forum itself about its damaging effect. Afflicted Nessus exists in each and every serial killer's chart, and in a majority of sociopath's charts. The object's gravity cannot be a cause. So how does it work? How does the working of the Myth "download" from the Collective Unconscious into Physical Reality? Nobody is 100% sure, but it does happen. Like clockwork. Pluto is too far too. How does it transform us? Pluto and Saturn will continue to make a fool out of Astrology skeptics, and Nessus, Karma, Eros, Fortuna, Valentine, Aphrodite etc will continue to confound Asteroid Skeptics as they blindfold through life not understanding these transits. The Quran is more eloquent on knowledge deniers: "Seeing they see not, Hearing they hear not, and neither will they understand". Solomon was a tad harsh in Pslams so I will refrain from quoting the wise Sage. Astrologers of the future will save girl's lives using Nessus aspects, and they will prevent the development of serial killers by counseling them during adolescence. ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html Readings IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 1479 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 21, 2010 11:44 AM
There is definitely truth to what iQ is saying. At first, I was skeptical, but now I totally understand and realize the "name frequency" idea... makes a lot of sense.But, regardless, if one does not believe, just keep to your basics... no harm done. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 12:53 PM
quote: Nobody is supposed to even begin checking the Asteroids in synastry until the basic filter of an Ascendant aspect and then a planetary harmony aspect is fulfilled. Once the basics are satisfied, then we look into the Asteroids for intricate information.
But that's what I've been trying to say. What I've been trying to express in my last posts: - I'm also another asteroid user; - Other elements (asteroids) don't cease to exist just coz some people (non asteroid believers) chooses to ignore their existence and stick to the basics (during interpretations); - Both basic elements/objects (planets, angles, etc.) and asteroids can't substitute one another, and it's important to keep in mind what each element represent. *edited* hmm the alien icon was chosen by mistake lol.
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posted November 21, 2010 12:56 PM
( deleted .. on noting following post ( can enquire elsewhere ..
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The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 01:11 PM
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amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1941 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 02:44 PM
Ted Bundy does not have any significant Nessus aspects. His Nessus squares Saturn and Pluto. Seems dire indeed until you realize that everyone born that year has that aspect. It's also not placed angularly, nor does it aspect any personal planets.Kate Middleton also has Nessus square Pluto and Saturn and I will be shocked if she turns into a serial killer. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 02:52 PM
quote: the reason you were able to find those charts is because of what the individuals did.. had they not done it, you would've never gotten a hold of their chart of birth date..
But then isn't it how researches are done normally (asteroids or not)? The point of this research is to study Nessus' effect in the chart of dangerous people, and for that, charts of dangerous people who committed dangerous acts are needed of course. Just like how astrologers who tries to figure what aspects between the basic charts elements that shows a certain effect in people's chart would do.By the way, just wanted to add a curiosity regarding to asteroids research on dangerous people's chart. Why not everyone who has certain potentially dangerous aspects seem dangerous? The answer can actually be found through asteroid aspects in certain cases. IP: Logged |
The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 02:56 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:00 PM
BTW planets are working on "name frequency", too.So if it is invalid for asteroids, it is invalid for planets, too, which invalidates astrology in general. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 1533 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:03 PM
quote: BTW planets are working on "name frequency", too.
before anyone invalidates astrology in general, can you elaborate please, or this statement is to be blindly accepted ? IP: Logged |
The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:07 PM
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Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1662 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:08 PM
I only have one question about Nessus: do any of you really believe that its bad by default? Or like any other object, does it have two sides to it? IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1941 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:11 PM
quote: Why not everyone who has certain potentially dangerous aspects seem dangerous? The answer can actually be found through asteroid aspects in certain cases.
There are thousands of asteroids and they fall somewhere in people's charts. A few are bound to be considered significant. If you start looking for something, you're going to find it (especially with asteroids). I think they're fun, but I prefer looking at the chart without them first. IP: Logged |
The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:19 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:23 PM
What I mean is that the name of the planets (at least for the outer ones Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) are NOT based on a collection of experience and then applying the appropriate mythological name to them, but it was actually the other way round. They gave it a name, for what reason ever, and with that name came the applied meaning, and afterwards it proved to have been the assumed effects.Nothing else happens with asteroids. And Pire (and some others writing here ont his thread, you can spare us all your condescending tone, it`s annoying.
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The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:26 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:26 PM
If you had lived in the 18th century, you would not have found that many written on Uranus in astrology either.IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:28 PM
The Duke,you just proved my point and didn`t even notice. IP: Logged |
The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:30 PM
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:30 PM
quote: BTW planets are working on "name frequency", too.So if it is invalid for asteroids, it is invalid for planets, too, which invalidates astrology in general.
I agree. We attached meanings to planets' names, just like with asteroids, so if name frequency can't apply to asteroids, then it can't be applied to planets too.Also, astrology is based on the theory "as above, so bellow", which means how things are up there affects how things are down here. So how can we accept the existence of some objects while not accepting the existence of others? IP: Logged |
The Duke Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 21, 2010 03:34 PM
quote: Venetia, can you tell us a little bit about the circumstances that happened in 1930 that brought you to suggest the name of Pluto?Yes, I don’t quite know why I suggested it. I think it was on March the 14th, 1930 and I was having breakfast with my mother and my grandfather. And my grandfather read out at breakfast the great news and said he wondered what it would be called. And for some reason, I after a short pause, said, “Why not call it Pluto?” I did know, I was fairly familiar with Greek and Roman legends from various children’s books that I had read, and of course I did know about the solar system and the names the other planets have. And so I suppose I just thought that this was a name that hadn’t been used. And there it was. The rest was entirely my grandfather’s work.
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