posted December 15, 2011 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Yes we definitely envy that quality, their courage! But at the same time we feel kind of threatened by it, as it can be very easy for them to sort of publicly ridicule us without exactly knowing how deeply they can hurt! Lol.. this is what I had with two of them very close to me. My sis is one and my gosh.. how she could ridicule Leo-me and my Leo-mom in front of everyone.. too many times I wished the earth would swallow me up then and it always surprised me how well my Leo-mom could handle it! Even when I privately ventilated my aversion afterwards she seemed unaffected.
The other was a male friend and I always had to be on my guard with him around because of the same thing.. not very calm waters

ps; my mom had a Libra-Moon.
I have a Scorp-Moon which is exactly conjunct the scorp-moon of my sis.

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posted December 15, 2011 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Honestly, I'm envious of those who get along with Leo guys. I like them. They just can't stand me.

I give up trying to deal with them because it's never going to work.

I get along great with the women, but the men...something is just wrong with me I guess. I don't have what it takes to get them to like me, no matter how hard I try or what I do.

It really is completely and utterly hopeless.

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Listen to yourself!

I know this topic kind of died down and you thanked us for your honesty but I just now read this and ... well, I mean I have Mercury in Aries. Me trying to keep quiet about something I feel strongly for is like putting the Tazmanian Devil in a box for Christmas.

"They just can't stand me."
"It's utterly hopeless."
"...it's never going to work."

Like, I get you're bummed about not getting along with a Leo guy but perhaps they "don't like you" because you sound so negative?! I know you have a Cancer moon and that means you're quite sensitive but honey, I have an Aquarius sun, Cancer moon, Venus in Pisces friend and even when he's mopey he's still optimistic.

So here's a little reassurance chicken soup for your soul

1. It's not hopeless, it just takes practice.
2. Stop caring so much. Now.
3. Be comfortable in your skin... it took me from the time I was 15 until now (22) to learn this and accept myself as I was but I do, and when it finally clicked that I was just as normal as anyone else and actually SMARTER than many people (doesn't mean I'm superior but for a long time I felt bad about myself because nobody seemed to understand me... turns out the people I was expecting that from weren't capable of fulfilling my expectations.)
4. Be HAPPY.

If you do those 4 things, and you learn to shrug off mishaps you will be getting along with Leos in no time. You have a Libra rising? Or a Sun? (Sorry, I don't remember) that should give you a head start 'cause I see Leo/Libra matchings ALL the freaking time. More than Aries/Leo. In fact, I've never seen an Aries/Leo now that I think about it. Sag/Leo, Scorp/Leo, Pisces/Leo, and Libra/Leo are the top ones I see. I bet Aries just doesn't have the patience for Leo's theatrics...

posted December 15, 2011 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Well, I don't see how this Leo could possibly be forgiving. I really screwed up, people have limits; people in general are not compassionate or forgiving.

When a Leo *does* forgive, how and why do they do it?

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well... here's the thing. A Leo isn't going to come to you and say "I hereby declare this as bestowing forgiveness upon you, the commoner, for your trespasses."

they're not really even going to acknowledge it. It's more like you make them mad, give them space, and then come back and act like everything is fine (i.e. move on from the incident). They'll be stubborn about following suit but that's just for show. You just have to learn how to recognize BS 'cause they have a tendency to exaggerate the little things that **** them off.

posted December 15, 2011 01:38 PM            

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posted December 15, 2011 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
If I can ask:

I will have to see this Leo at least twice more in my life (I have obligations that I cannot get out of, and he will be there). Since backing out isn't an option (I'm already committed and tied to it), how do I gracefully avoid the Leo so as not to create more awkwardness? Given that this situation cannot be healed or fixed, or even made better, what is my best option here until my commitments are over? I really don't want to screw up again and make it worse.

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You don't avoid him. Once again - avoiding him equates to weakness. Don't go out of your way for him or anything obviously but all you have to do is act natural. Forget he ever got mad at you or whatever he did, or you think he thinks you did or whatever. Forget about it. Just be in the moment and when you leave, leave that moment THERE instead of giving it more meaning than necessary.

posted December 15, 2011 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
OH, and my Leo crush has Venus in Gemini and Mars in Aries. I have Gemini ASC, Mars in Gemini, and of course my Sun, Merc, and Venus are in Aries...

So does his Mars in Aries and Venus in Gemini make him extra-attracted to me, PLUS his Leo placements? Or am I only supposed to rely on aspects for that kinda thing?

Oh yeah he also has Gemini rising too. It's weird though because he LOOKS like a Gemini rising and acts like one. I have it and I don't.

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posted December 15, 2011 04:58 PM            

The worst thing you can have in synastry - if you are a woman trying to get along with an Aries woman.. is a Mars placement that is *either* square her Sun or square her own Mars.

Belligerent -

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my guess is that you're just kinda making it awkward by constantly apologizing. Leos don't really 'do' grudges.

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I agree!!

Regardes -

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How do you know, though, when you should be apologetic and when you shouldn't?

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I think you should have a quota of two apologies per week maximum
Really - No person needs to apologize more than twice per week on any regular week.. (not including things like bumping into someone and saying "oops sorry").

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If you feel guilty about bothering someone, doesn't that mean that you DID do something wrong?

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In your case - NO.
Because reading your posts - it seems you feel guilty an inordinate amount of times, for absolutely no real reason.

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If you didn't so something horrible, why would you feel guilty?

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posted December 15, 2011 05:13 PM            

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I do have an intense wish to please and that I take this side of Libra too far sometimes.

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posted December 15, 2011 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
You don't avoid him. Once again - avoiding him equates to weakness. Don't go out of your way for him or anything obviously but all you have to do is act natural. Forget he ever got mad at you or whatever he did, or you think he thinks you did or whatever. Forget about it. Just be in the moment and when you leave, leave that moment THERE instead of giving it more meaning than necessary.

Basically, if he's near you - just say hi. Believe it or not Leos are timid too. They have a mean tongue when they want but they hate awkwardness, and love classiness. Saying hi would be classy - just don't go overboard.

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I kinda gotta disagree. I don't see avoidance as weakness, I just see it as incredibly silly and exasperating. I'm really direct, frank and my patience is nil for that kind of thing. When people avoid me rather than say what their problem is, I just write them off really fast because of it. I don't like game-playing. I believe in speaking your piece and just letting stuff out.

posted December 15, 2011 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
stillatlarge - Did you have something in cardinal signs?
Aquarius is sextile Aries.. so that's not it.

The worst thing you can have in synastry - if you are a woman trying to get along with an Aries woman.. is a Mars placement that is *either* square her Sun or square her own Mars.

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I'm sure that has something to do with it but it's a myth that because Leo/Aries are both fire signs, that they get along. I've seen this thread other places and believe me, it's nothing rare for the two to clash. I have Ascendant, Mars and Venus in Cancer. I was talking about the aqua moon and apologizing, not relating it to Aries. I think that Aries is the only one that Leo is afraid of, especially in a physical confrontation. My older brother was an Aries. I could never beat him head on. He was 100 lbs heavier and 8 years older and a bully. I had to use my Cancerian wiles to do that and even then I've never felt like I phased him. I don't know any other sign like that.

posted December 15, 2011 05:35 PM            

Aries-Leo works well for me 90% of the time, so I don’t see it as a myth. I don’t feel any friction at all. It feels easy. It’s true that we argue sometimes - but it doesn’t seem important because there’s so much mutual affection. At worst I’ve been neutral towards a Leo person.. but I’ve never disliked them.
It’s not gender specific either. Actually, when I was younger (in high school) I was over-reactive to what I saw as promiscuous behaviour in Leo guys. They sometimes annoyed me. My sexuality is more hidden (Mars/Nept).. and they were very overtly romantic and sexual towards me – which made me uncomfortable.
But now that I’m older.. and the Leos I meet are older…. They’re more gentlemanly so I don’t have this problem anymore.
But I’ve always been down with Leo girls. My mum is a Leo and we are very close!

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I think that Aries is the only one that Leo is afraid of,

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posted December 15, 2011 07:13 PM            

The issue that I am seeing with you and leo's is your level of confidence..
You have to believe in yourself, and your right to ask, and if they dont they Hey not worth my time anyways..

Leo's respect and are attracted to confidence..

Your over apologizing is not looked at as confidence..

posted December 16, 2011 12:33 AM            

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[b][QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa:
OH, and my Leo crush has Venus in Gemini and Mars in Aries. I have Gemini ASC, Mars in Gemini, and of course my Sun, Merc, and Venus are in Aries...

So does his Mars in Aries and Venus in Gemini make him extra-attracted to me, PLUS his Leo placements? Or am I only supposed to rely on aspects for that kinda thing?

Oh yeah he also has Gemini rising too. It's weird though because he LOOKS like a Gemini rising and acts like one. I have it and I don't. [QUOTE]

Hm...his Mars in Aries and your Venus also being in Aries, to me, could definitely spark some attraction. Mars and Venus are the planets of sex and love, respectively. Having them together could mean that you two understand each other well, and that your physical attraction + your emotional/mental attraction would be in sync. Given that this is two-fold within your charts--he having Venus in Gemini, you having Mars in Gemini--this, to me, would only add to that.

Plus, Gemini and Aries are compatible signs anyway, so even if you look Venus-to-Venus and Mars-to-Mars, I think that you two would find common ground and be suited to each other.

Given that both of you have Gemini ASCs and have trine suns, it seems like you two would have a lot in common. Put this with your Gemini and Aries connections and you two seem like you'd be a lot alike. On the plus side, this means that you'd probably understand each other, have similar goals, know how the other one works. On the other hand, complacency can sometimes happen when people have trines or else sometimes people have the same faults when they have things in the same sign. However, given how adaptable Aries and Gemini are, and how both keep moving, this could be one pairing that could override any complacency that might occur, as you both would be changing and evolving almost constantly.

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I'm attracted to him, and I don't know if he's attracted to me but he's one of the few guys whom I didn't feel immediately one-sided about when interacting with him - so he could be. I actually think his Moon in Aquarius annoys me a little bit. Like I still think he's a great guy who loves and is loved by a lot of people, but I get the sense he likes things for the sole purpose of standing out or being quirky. Not necessarily 'cause he genuinely likes them. Which annoys me about anyone who does that. I like people who are true to themselves (although you could argue that IS them being true to themselves).

However, yes it does feel complacent. He's the most recent guy I'm not rushing or clawing over to get to. I feel like I could have him if I really really wanted him but.... I like being chased most of the time, esp. if I can't gauge their feelings. But I have a rule that if I can't gauge their feelings then I don't try to gauge at all 'cause they probably don't like me. My point being I think we feel the same way about each other and that's why there's no rush. But yes I bet we would have really similar personality traits and experiences. I was shocked when I saw he had Sat, Ur, and Nept in the 7th as I do, and Jupiter in the 12th as I do.

posted December 16, 2011 04:46 PM            

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they just don't follow through or else they change their mind about you. I've also noticed that some Leos are REALLY bad with communication, especially Virgo Mercury Leos. They hate it if certain people talk to them. They hate to be bothered about anything. They do not get back to you, sometimes not at all. I have noticed that there is a pattern here. I don't mean to generalize, and obviously there are SOME exceptions, but the ones that I know personally are like that.

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