posted December 17, 2011 04:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Stillatlarge - Cancer Mars women have problems with Aries Sun women!
I don’t even think it matters whether it is in aspect or not by degree. I’ve seen so many posts on LL from different girls with this Mars.. who have the same issues..

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You know what? I'm a Cancerian Mars and I hate to agree with a stereotype but there's some truth to this. Actually gender is irrelevant though; I tend to have a problem with Arian people period, whether male or female.

They're just needlessly aggressive and combative to me and they see everything as a competition or a game and always try to goad you into competing with/arguing against them. Plus they're always trying to dominate everyone too - it's like they're that annoying pushy kid in class who always demands to be leader and if they don't come up first in every class activity they throw a tantrum.

posted December 17, 2011 04:46 AM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
I don't know, maybe it's my Aqua moon, but acting like nothing happened really ****** me off. At first engagement that may be okay but pretty soon there has to be some gesture or acknowledgment.

I can't stand Aries females. With the males, it's either love or hate but most of the time it may start out really good but eventually sours. I think they're boorish, bullying, insensitive, without discernment, etc. I'm always attracted to them though. Whoever said Leo's don't apologize...that isn't true, but we have to be truly wrong to do it and that just doesn't happen that often. LOL. We're not going to apologize to someone who's wrong or hypersensitive. It's Aries that never ever, no matter how egregious their actions, apologizes or atones. Another reason I don't care for them.

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Omg, yes. If we're truly in the wrong and really responsible for something, a Leo will apologize at the drop of a hat. If you never get any apology it's because you don't deserve it and we weren't wrong lol.

I agree with you about Aries. A lot of times they'll pull s**t or do truly rephrensible things and they will literally never acknowledge their guilt or how out of line they were - in fact a lot of times they'll do the opposite and lie and insist it was you that was in the wrong and try to justify and excuse their own behavior.

posted December 17, 2011 05:02 AM            

Just my thoughts

posted December 17, 2011 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by SparklingSag:
I adore leos (have leo moon after all) but it wasn't until recently that I understood what Linda wrote in lovesigns about leo man and saggie woman and the "testing game". A leo man friend in my life has started to kind of play games (pisces moon, scop asc) and has taken to insulting me, so far he called me needy, lazy, floating (cause I did not agree with what he was saying). The saggie rebel in me wants to say NO, and not agree with anything he says just to annoy him. This is kinda tiring though, I would rather leap off into the sunset with an adoring libra or fascinating aqua...

Just my thoughts

Sparkling

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Leave.

Guys do stuff like that and usually just escalate it or at the very least, start to think it's okay to continuously insult and verbally abuse you.

posted December 17, 2011 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Regardes, I like the cracked vase simile. As a Sag with Jup in Libra, I totally feel the same about conflicts. It's like this beautiful vase is cracked and even if it doesn't break now, it carries a wound forever it seems. And no I am not holding grudges, it's just that it turns this beautiful previously untouched and innocent vase into a cracked vase. Broken or not, it's already cracked. It saddens me to no end. It's a bit idealistic but that's my idea of beauty in relationships. I forget and forgive but the wounds stay and if it was up to me they would rather never be there in the first place. The vase would ideally remain beautiful.
In real life, I prefer problem resolution to conflict. Instead of yelling, lying, avoiding the issue, I want to sit down and speak from the heart. I find though that for many people this is harder than just yelling/lying/avoiding things.

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posted December 17, 2011 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

Leave.
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Someone that cares about you, wouldn't spend most of their time being a jerk to you.

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posted December 17, 2011 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
Bingo. Easy to forget how far a little self-respect goes. Some people enjoy having fans. That doesn't mean they don't or didn't sincerely like you in the first place. But, sometimes if people feel they can treat you like crap, get what they want and have you around at their call--they will do just that! This should never be a reflection of one's self-worth or what they should put up with!

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I agree, and happy to say I have walked away. He only started doing this a month or so ago (have known him superficially for 4 years or so) but shows what happens when you a go a little deeper with someone. He was insulting in order to tell me how to be better or improve. The audacity was amazing. He had gone to greece to get his ex gf back and she rejected him so I think he was feeling not good but took his frustrations out on me.

posted December 17, 2011 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by SparklingSag:

I agree, and happy to say I have walked away. He only started doing this a month or so ago (have known him superficially for 4 years or so) but shows what happens when you a go a little deeper with someone. He was insulting in order to tell me how to be better or improve. The audacity was amazing. He had gone to greece to get his ex gf back and she rejected him so I think he was feeling not good but took his frustrations out on me.

Sparkling

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Wow. Sounds like he is trying to rebuild his confidence, by taking it out on you, just like he said. In all honesty, who knows if his 'comments' were sincere and he is trying to help. Maybe those are things he 'wanted' to say to her. Or perhaps, maybe they are things he wants you to be to be like her. I'm just rattling off the top of my head. Who knows why he 'really' was saying it but him.

What matters is that you deserve to be happy. And you weren't happy, so you had to relieve yourself of the situation.

posted December 17, 2011 08:20 AM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:

I believe the 'universe' (or whatever you want) blesses us when we stand up for ourselves and move towards what we really deserve and what is for our highest good. I am experiencing something similar myself. It just gets too bizarre. They *always* come back around when they realize the reality. But you stay focused and achieve your happiness. I promise you will be fine and you'll have just what and who you need soon enough.

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Thank you Firewire I really believe since I broke up with my ex in the summer I have been tested with what I don't want and having the courage to walk away or stand up for myself. I feel I am learning, it doesn't happen overnight but I am moving forward each time.

posted December 17, 2011 09:00 AM            

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Originally posted by SparklingSag:
Thank you Firewire I really believe since I broke up with my ex in the summer I have been tested with what I don't want and having the courage to walk away or stand up for myself. I feel I am learning, it doesn't happen overnight but I am moving forward each time.

Sparkling

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You aren't the only Sag I know who is going through this--I am as well. I also have a Libra rising though and Saturn is hitting Libra VERY hard. For me, the eclipses brought forth some very important information, some of which I haven't processed either out of reluctance or denial. I might add that if and when this person finally 'comes to their senses' be just as gracious and kind to them as you would otherwise be. Just maintain your boundaries. I am personally convinced they will be back. Just keep it all in perspective and don't get sucked back into to a vortex of powerplay and or ego trips!

posted December 17, 2011 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
You aren't the only Sag I know who is going through this--I am as well. I also have a Libra rising though and Saturn is hitting Libra VERY hard. For me, the eclipses brought forth some very important information, some of which I haven't processed either out of reluctance or denial. I might add that if and when this person finally 'comes to their senses' be just as gracious and kind to them as you would otherwise be. Just maintain your boundaries. I am personally convinced they will be back. Just keep it all in perspective and don't get sucked back into to a vortex of powerplay and or ego trips!

But, I am SO glad to hear this. And I am very proud of you and hope you receive an abundance of joy--particularly when our dearest Jupiter goes direct in about 7 days! Moving direct in my 5th house, while Uranus is now moving direct in my 7th! Should an interesting time for us all, hopefully.

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Hi Firewire you have made me smile and thank you for your kind words and encouragment. Yes saturn and eclipes have been MAJOR! Hitting my relationships (family and men) so am hanging on in there. Can't wait for 7 days time...am off to Canada to celebrate Christmas with my sister so am going be looked after and loved. I think us Saggies are underestimated sometimes on how deep we can feel about people, just cause we smile through pain doesn't mean we don't feel it.