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Topic: Do Pisces Men have passionate sex even if no feelings?
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Lioness
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posted April 12, 2013 11:09 PM
  
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've never slept with anyone because I never have had intense feelings for anyone.
Good for you, that's awesome, only your one of the rare few, a rare diamond.  IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted April 12, 2013 11:41 PM
Pisces men lie until they believe themselves.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 13, 2013 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
I think she was talking about women not tolerating men that act in that way, she didn't say that women are responsible for the way men act she was saying that society needs to stop letting that kind of behavior slide.What you described isn't a man, its a teenage horndog trapped inside a man's body lol.
U misunderstood, Snorkel :P. This is pretty much what I meant. You can scream at a man all you want lol I agree, he's not gonna change. That's why you leave him..... IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 13, 2013 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Honestly? The first few times I read your posts I thought you were female.You might wanna check the next time you're in the bathroom to see whether you're sitting down or standing up to take your leak.
Are you a man or a woman, Snorkel?
Because I can't tell either.
Honesty, either way. You don't sound like a person I'd like to get to know if you're making fun of Kerosene for not sleeping around with girls.
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 13, 2013 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've never slept with anyone because I never have felt intense feelings of love.  People are too impatient now a days, and they just want instant gratification. Waiting is taboo or something..
Would you agree that the man who doesnt objectify women will have trouble making male friends because they'll make fun of him? This is what those guy friends of mine tell me. And congratulations. You're a shining glimmer of hope in this world full of lost souls....
You should feel very proud of yourself for sticking to your own opinions/standards all this time. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 13, 2013 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Grown men don't care about impressing anybody they just wanna get their rocks off. Men do what they want to do, they're stubborn by nature and no matter what women tell them, the man is going to do exactly as he likes trust me lmao.
That sounds like rape. Are you implying that all men are rapists? What happens when women refuse to "put out"? The fact is that, unless most men are willing to resort to rape, they wouldn't be getting much sex, appart from paying for it, if fewer women were compliant. So women have more power over men then you realize.IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 13, 2013 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Good for you, that's awesome, only your one of the rare few, a rare diamond.
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Kerosene
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posted April 13, 2013 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Would you agree that the man who doesnt objectify women will have trouble making male friends because they'll make fun of him? This is what those guy friends of mine tell me.And congratulations. You're a shining glimmer of hope in this world full of lost souls....
You should feel very proud of yourself for sticking to your own opinions/standards all this time.
Wow thank you :3
That does ring a bell with me, I use to be teased a bit in school for that. I remember when I was little the boys use to chase the girls. I felt bad for the girls and joined up with them because they would tease them. The boys were really mad and tried to buy me off with toys or some crap but I betrayed. Took their toys and shared them with the girls. Ever since then I never liked "masculine" guys. I use that term lightly.. Anyways I was still friendly with those girls until middle school and thats when I started dating one of them. So nice guys do finish first. Ha My only close male friends are either extremely intelligent/scholarly/progressive or gay.
Honestly men who objectify women did not have a strong female figure in their life. Its like an endless cycle, his father was the same way etc. I have to thank my parents for that. Astrologically speaking I have a prominent moon and venus that are positively aspected. Venus and moon are also in conjunction. So I suppose my mentally is more feminine.
I feel very masculine and female, so its just a good balance. There are guys that are balanced like me. I've men a lot of them. They have strong mars and venus and a positive moon. IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted April 13, 2013 04:31 AM
Being passionate at sex and having feelings for the other person are two totally different things.
Yes both men and women (and not all of them,of course), can have passionate sex and not have feelings for the other person that are equal to the passion they show during sex.From your post, I sense that even if you guys have been seeing each other for 8 months, you haven't made clear if you are exclusive,and what's precisely the context of your relationship. I mean if it was clear that you two ard exclusive boyfriend-girlfriend, you wouldn't be asking us. I know both Pisces men, that wanted sex in a relatonship etc and others that sleep around. Can you post his chart so we can also see his Venus,Mats etc ??
Judging only from his Sun sign is too general and vague IMO.  IP: Logged |
jjj
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posted April 13, 2013 04:52 AM
I know this 50 something Pisces guy who has been flirting with me (sexually) for nearly a year. Every time I see him he shows by his behavior that he is very attracted to me, he even told me once-twice that he cant stop thinking about me, that he misses me etc.
As he is married I recently confronted him (Im bold with all the scorpio stuff I have in my chart haha) about that because he was messing with my head... and can you imagine, the guy says he has no feelings for me whatsoever, that he likes me, yes, but it all was innocent normal flirting Latin culture men do... the flirting was very borderline, directed only to me and with sexual undertones all the time.
He is very non-direct and gives out a warm impression, but now I see that his heart may be cold and he may be a liar. ehhh--- I still like him though. Aries venus with Gemini Mars and Aqua moon.
These Pisces guys just sneak into your heart and stay there.IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted April 13, 2013 09:27 AM
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Men aren't these infantile little sheep that can be steered around and need women to teach them what to do and how to be, and believe me, plenty of women have stated loud and clear that they aren't a fan of promiscuity or want their man to be faithful and those dudes turn right around and bed woman after woman.
The point is to *leave* them - not explain that their behaviour is wrong. If they associate bad behaviour with - "I lost my GF permanently"... there's a better chance they'll self-improve. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted April 13, 2013 09:28 AM
Oh RAS already mentioned that ^Nvm lol IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted April 13, 2013 09:42 AM
On topic - I think absolutely anyone can have physically satisfying sex without feelings..
I don't think there is much discrepancy between men and women.
But it does depend on how conditioned the people are. Some women (depending on age/culture) are sexually repressed purely because they were given the message that it is sl*tty or un-lady-like to be purely sexual, in the absence of love and marriage. "Physically satisfying" is not necessarily -passionate- though...
It depends how you see passion.. I see it as emotional.. There's a difference between - giving it your all, on a physical level - as in - channeling all your energy into sex..
AND... being passionate in an emotional way. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 13, 2013 10:28 AM
I would just like to say that theres alot of stuff I agree with in this thread and alot I dont. First off,what do people mean when they say guys sexually objectify women? because honestly I havent met very many men who sexually objectify women as far as i'm concerned. I do know guys who seek out no strings attached deals or fwbs , but i dont see a problem with that provided both parties have an agreement on that.I also wholeheartedly agree with Ras that women need to start sticking to their guns and hold men accountable for their actions. If they want a relationship they need to let the man know that and tell him'its either a relationship or get the f*** out." I know too many women who are willing participants in their own abuse, more of them need to stand up for what they want and if the man isnt living up to his end of the deal they need to tell him to take a hike, quit rewarding bad behavior! IP: Logged |
lotus_flower
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posted April 13, 2013 10:35 AM
I'm gonna need to see the chart! I'm nosy! :-) But honestly, Pisces are very into the moment, so I can see him saying these things. At the moment they want to share things with you and at the moment they fully believe this to be true! It sounds like you guys have a connection, so I wouldn't go fishing for information--just enjoy each others company and companionship. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted April 13, 2013 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
It just makes me sad when i see someone saying all men are like this or most men are, bc that's the kind of attitude that makes guys follow these expectations. In the end it means more unhappiness for them. Not wanting to get married...erectile dysfunction bc of watching porn, or ruining otherwise perfectly fine relationships by making them physical too early. I think as women we have to not allow irresponsible behavior in guys, and choose to be with someone else instead. Our acceptance of their behavior allows it to continue.I've also met lots of guys who told me they used to be promiscuous and all they found was emptiness. If society expects this behavior of men, i think all it's doing is hurting them. Look at the role models for guys in our society...rappers. The worst most irresponsible role model you could have. There are movies that talk about this issue by the way. I can only remember two right now, but Im sure there are more. Weird Science is one. The two guys want to make their own perfect woman and have fun bragging about how theyd do all these things to her. But when they do create that perfect woman they cant do anything sexual with her even though she is super enthusiastic lol, because they cant get emotionally close to her, since they have no feelings for her. It's only when they find two girlfriends and feel like they're in love, that they finally do physical things with them and feel happiness. Or what about Crazy Stupid Love with Steve Carrell. Carrell is a great husband---responsible, was a virgin wen he married his wife, a great provider for his family, and always attentive to his wife---but he wasnt very romantic or all that expressive or passionate about showing her wife how much he loved her. Ryan Gosling is the ladies man. And he finds a sad divorced Carrell drinking at a bar and makes him the proposition to get him his wife back by changing him into a smooth ladies man like him. Gosling sleeps with a different woman every night and he starts out by giving Carrell pick up tricks and making him really well dressed so that he can do the same. Carrell is reluctant but complies. After a one night stand with two women I think? He backs out and goes back to his wife and just apologizes to her in a hugely dramatic romantic way, expressing his feelings to the audience at his son's graduation. Gosling unknowingly falls in love with Carrell's daughter when during what is about to be a one night stand at his apartment never happens because they stay up all night talking to each other instead. Gosling says he was wrong the entire time, and that he was lonely and unhappy when he was promiscuous, and that falling in love is the right way. Carrell doesnt want him to be with his daughter and calls him a low-life and a womanizer and inists his daughter deserves better. Gosling agrees that he was trying to make Carrell like him when in reality it was he who needed to be like Carrell. I think this movie is really important because most guys think they have to be the smooth ladies man to get women to like them. I think in large part it is the women's fault for liking the ladies man and putting up with his macho behavior.
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Jessica2407
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posted April 13, 2013 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've never slept with anyone because I never have felt intense feelings of love. People are too impatient now a days, and they just want instant gratification. Waiting is taboo or something..
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aquaguy91
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posted April 13, 2013 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I disagree. I have four guy friends who are in their 20s and are virgins because they want to wait until marriage. They also dont watch porn, dont objectify women, and feel ashamed and angry about how other men are such pigs. So i think it's society, not biology, which shapes these men who are this way into the way that they are. Not ony do i think society lets men get away with objectifying women, but with being irresponsible in general and in finding unhealthy outlets for their emotions (alcohol/weed/anger/fighting). And I think it is a lot of what is wrong with society.
I agree with everything you said
except I think women are their own worst enemy in this regard, not society as a whole in most cases.You see as an old fashioned guy who atually wants a real relationship I look out into the world and see the vast majority of women "claiming" they want a a real relationship, but they dont practice what they preach. Most of the time women ignore guys like me and insist on chasing guys who plainly state they do not want commitment,why is that? its infuriating to guys like me.. these women ignore what these guys say and sleep with them anyways and then get upset when the guys dont commit,wtf? Then these women cry and whine and say "all men are pigs". I'll be honest with you I used to feel sympathy for these types of women but I dont anymore because they are willing participants in all of this. They need to put on their big girl panties and start standing up for themselves if they dont want the same things to keep happening again and again and again... Also What is the initiative for guys like me to continue being nice and respecting women if women dont respect or love us? When we look out into the world and see all the types of men who women "supposedly" hate getting rewarded on a daily basis its hard not to get angry and jaded. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted April 13, 2013 11:00 AM
''Also What is the initiative for guys like me to continue being nice and respecting women if women dont respect or love us?''How many 'guys like you' do you reckon are there in this world? I want to ask all the women here : How many of you would have liked to have a steadfast,reliable,committed guy like aquaguy? I for one would have loved to have someone like that. So you are going to stop being nice and respecting to ALL women because the women YOU met are ''willing participants'' in hooking up with guys who states they don't want a commitment? How many women have you met? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted April 13, 2013 11:16 AM
I totally agree with RAS when she said ''Our acceptance of their behavior allows it to continue.''The psychological functioning of women is different to that of men. We think differently. Men as well as women can have passionate sex without strings attached, without feelings. That being said, a woman is more likely to develop emotional dependence(it doesn't necessarily be an emotional attachment)than a guy. Women can fall into this dependency very easily and find themselves 'so involved' with the guy that they aren't capable of putting their feet down when they have to.Like it has been said in this thread, guys are known for their stubbornness,for sticking to their modus operandi and it's up to the women to decide if they want to be taken for a doormat OR if they want to be respected. If they choose to be respected they have to be ready emotionally to break the dependency.SO YES, women are responsible when they let men take them for granted as well as men are responsible when they let themselves be taken for granted by women. If you are not happy in a relationship, you let the person know you are not happy and the reason why, if the person doesn't listen to you, you prove your point by leaving the person. It applies for both women and men.If you don't leave,then you are condoning such kind of behavior, therefore you are responsible. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 13, 2013 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
''Also What is the initiative for guys like me to continue being nice and respecting women if women dont respect or love us?''How many 'guys like you' do you reckon are there in this world? I want to ask all the women here : How many of you would have liked to have a steadfast,reliable,committed guy like aquaguy? I for one would have loved to have someone like that. So you are going to stop being nice and respecting to ALL women because the women YOU met are ''willing participants'' in hooking up with guys who states they don't want a commitment? How many women have you met?
theres enough of us lol. and the vast majority of women claim to want a relationship, so why do these women allow themselves to be booty calls if they dont want that? My mom,sister, and all the girls I went to school with all seem to gravitate towards guys who will never commit and outright ignore those of us who would. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted April 13, 2013 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
theres enough of us lol. and the vast majority of women claim to want a relationship, so why do these women allow themselves to be booty calls if they dont want that? My mom,sister, and all the girls I went to school with all seem to gravitate towards guys who will never commit and outright ignore those of us who would.
SO if there's enough of YOU, it means there's enough of old fashioned girls like me ( the kinds that want a serious relationship, who would raise hell if EVER she feels that she is being taken for granted) I know we live in different cultures, locations and everything, but I seriously don't think that your mom,sister and the girls you went to school with represent a fair fraction of women that go after commitment phobic guys. So I'm kind of wondering here, what makes YOU so much attracted to women who prefer the ''bad guys'' than ''the nice guys''?
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KarkaQueen
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posted April 13, 2013 12:00 PM
Just get a Venusian/Lunarian man.. you know like a man with Libra Sun and Cancer Moon or something hahahaI agree with Kerosene. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 13, 2013 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
SO if there's enough of YOU, it means there's enough of old fashioned girls like me ( the kinds that want a serious relationship, who would raise hell if EVER she feels that she is being taken for granted)I know we live in different cultures, locations and everything, but I seriously don't think that your mom,sister and the girls you went to school with represent a fair fraction of women that go after commitment phobic guys. So I'm kind of wondering here, what makes YOU so much attracted to women who prefer the ''bad guys'' than ''the nice guys''?
I'm not attracted to that quality in girls , its just the vast majority of them to seem to want those guys. IP: Logged |
Nahimana
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posted April 13, 2013 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
Pisces is just like any other guy if not worse. Also the opening up thing could be selective honesty, which they are famous for. THey are very good at playing sensitive but can be real cold people. Keep your eyes and ears open first and foremost. Pisces are the best liars in the zodiac.
So true...I also have several of these placements and can sense when a pisces man becomes manipulative and tries to play the victim of any given situation. It's such a turnoff. IP: Logged |
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