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Topic: Do Pisces Men have passionate sex even if no feelings?
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 567 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 08:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: Like what Kani said, it depends on what you regard as intimacy. Of course I don't go around kissing random people. I need to feel attracted at least but may not have real feelings. But sex to me is the highest intimacy I give to another that's why I can't do casual. Oral sex esp... I must really really like you to do that for you. Perhaps it's my Eros in Virgo? Lol.
ive given oral sex to people without kissing them my eros is in aquarius my view of intimacy has to do with my connection to the other person and how far id go with certain bdsm **** , but i just dont really think to kiss someone i dont have feelings for if we're just friends and having sex
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kani Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 09:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: ive given oral sex to people without kissing themmy eros is in aquarius my view of intimacy has to do with my connection to the other person and how far id go with certain bdsm **** , but i just dont really think to kiss someone i dont have feelings for if we're just friends and having sex
My Eros is also in Aqua and giving a bj is something that is super intimate for me. Kissing not so much. Interesting how it all plays out differently. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 567 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 09:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by kani: My Eros is also in Aqua and giving a bj is something that is super intimate for me. Kissing not so much. Interesting how it all plays out differently.
probably due to other aspects i don't see oral sex as any more intimate than sex in general, i just see it as part of sex kissing though is unnecessary to sex and has nothing to do with getting off, and i guess that's what it is for me IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 09:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: ive given oral sex to people without kissing themmy eros is in aquarius my view of intimacy has to do with my connection to the other person and how far id go with certain bdsm **** , but i just dont really think to kiss someone i dont have feelings for if we're just friends and having sex
You can do oral for anybody? We're very different then. Haha.. I can't put his dick in my mouth if I don't feel for him. Even for my guy I only did oral for him after awhile...When I feel really comfortable with him.
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kani Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: probably due to other aspectsi don't see oral sex as any more intimate than sex in general, i just see it as part of sex kissing though is unnecessary to sex and has nothing to do with getting off, and i guess that's what it is for me
Oh good kissing is important for me to get going but maybe that's also a gender thing (you are male right)? I also find oral sex very intimate because I'm getting someone else's genitals in my mouth as opposed to my private parts. I don't know why but I feel like a bigger amount of trust is required for me to give someone a bj than it is to just have intercourse. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 567 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 09:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: You can do oral for anybody? We're very different then. Haha.. I can't put his dick in my mouth if I don't feel for him. Even for my guy I only did oral for him after awhile...When I feel really comfortable with him.
ive actually never had sex with anyone who i havent also gone down on or given a bj to, it's just an extension of sex to me whereas kissing isnt i don't view it as particularly intimate, just about getting each other off and having fun
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Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: I'm like that too. I don't chase men. I'm too shy. In fact, if the one I love tells me he wants to leave me, I will tearfully say farewell, wish them well and love them all the same. *_*
If they tell you they do like you, do you wait for them to make a move? And what is if they don't, do you make the move instead? IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted December 16, 2018 04:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: Well I don’t have a Pisces mars but Im Pisces dominant (my mars also trines neptune), so from my view I think they are not impulsive. That’s Aries mars. I think they are the type to hold back a lot before doing something. As a Pisces I find that I get nervous in different situations especially unknown ones, and I hold back a lot. I think should I say this? Should I do this? Before doing it. Because I feel reluctant to act right away and fear doing something stupid. So I think a Pisces will be more apt to think about what will ‘feel’ right. Pisces is passive aggressive so Im bery sure mars is. Passive aggressive people aren’t upfront and as impulsive I think.
Yes, I have the exact same issue. I get scared of saying or doing something stupid or odd even if it's something I really want to act upon, so I just shut down and end up doing something that's ACTUALLY stupid and naive. I get in my head too much because I'm afraid of messing up even if the situation shows promise. I definitely need someone to guide me and validate my feelings in feeling certain ways and let me know that I'm on the right path because otherwise I'll get too muddied up in my thoughts and everything becomes a little scary. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted December 16, 2018 04:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: Do you factor in much people's words as a deciding factor, or rather try to read between the lines of those words? Like if someone tells you to do something, do you consider what they actually meant based on the words they used, or rather think about the energy they portrayed while saying it if or what they actually meant? (Myself e.g. I'd use both as a deciding factor, but I specifically wanna know if you'd disregard the words altogether and just use the feelings involved - although it would probably depend on the chart as a whole this since I believe your ruling planet is Mercury if I remember well)
I kind of do both, maybe its because I'm also a Capricorn. When I read between the lines of people's words I can be wrong though and end up making naive assumptions about what they meant, which leads me to feel stupid and bad. That goes back to what I said earlier about how we still make naive decisions. If I analyze their words too much I become confused because now I start to see all these different ways they could have been trying to communicate with me. Were they laughing at me? Laughing with me? Did they want me to come near them? Did they not? Was it a joke? Why did they raise the syllable like that? Was it mocking or playful? And what if they didn't want me but I misinterpreted that they did? I'd be so embarrassed to know I just tried to throw myself at someone bc I read the mood wrong.I just read into things too much , that's why I need someone to just flat out tell me what it is they want or feel because otherwise I will wander aimlessly in my thoughts. If you like me or want me to come to you please just tell me flat out so I can stop losing my mind over it lol. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted December 16, 2018 04:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: Personally for me if I like a guy I never act on it. I will stay back and hope he comes to me 👀
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Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 05:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: I kind of do both, maybe its because I'm also a Capricorn. When I read between the lines of people's words I can be wrong though and end up making naive assumptions about what they meant, which leads me to feel stupid and bad. That goes back to what I said earlier about how we still make naive decisions. If I analyze their words too much I become confused because now I start to see all these different ways they could have been trying to communicate with me. Were they laughing at me? Laughing with me? Did they want me to come near them? Did they not? Was it a joke? Why did they raise the syllable like that? Was it mocking or playful? And what if they didn't want me but I misinterpreted that they did? I'd be so embarrassed to know I just tried to throw myself at someone bc I read the mood wrong.I just read into things too much , that's why I need someone to just flat out tell me what it is they want or feel because otherwise I will wander aimlessly in my thoughts. If you like me or want me to come to you please just tell me flat out so I can stop losing my mind over it lol.
Helps a lot, thanks. Say they do as you wish and tell you flat out... Do you have a different approach then? And what is if their actions don't line up with what they said, do you still obsess over whether or not they meant what they said? (Like they tell you to hit them up... Do you? If they just wait for it to happen and do nothing instead) IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted December 16, 2018 06:16 PM
No, not really. If they tell me flat out that they aren't interested or their intentions aren't what I expected, then I'll just move on. I don't want to be clingy. It was like was someone else said earlier, Pisces is the type where if their lover or partner says they don't love you anymore we will feel so hurt inside but will not cling to them and try to make them stay. We will just accept their difference and learn to deal with our heartbreak. No point in making. Because, at least they told me flat out they don't care or they don't like me enough or they don't love me instead of staying with me and cheating or slowly hating me more. Honesty is the best policy with Pisces because we are so susceptible to outside factors. If you lie and we found out it would be even worse and probably life-threatening to us than if you had just said the truth from the beginning. I know some Pisces who really get in their feelings, like depression and suicidal thoughts, when they find out they've been lied to for extremely long periods of time. That really hurts the most, I'm kind of crying just thinking about that type of scenario...Just be honest with your feelings so we can deal with that heartbreak from the get go. It doesn't seem like it but it does hurt less that way for us.IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 06:26 PM
Before I finish reading your post, I meant the opposite, if they tell you they do like you... Edit: So they tell you they do like you but are not acting upon it. But ask you instead to hit them up. (say if you were the male) With the above mentioned, there's some past history with the girl having you wronged (read: blocked). And they're upfront with you about the actual reason of it. And now want things to default to the way it was originally. (I'm completely off topic here, for some reason I always seem to divert the post lol - guess I'm just trying to apply the situation to my own story) So my question, that being the case, how easily do you forget? (Cuz it seemed like he's forgiven me - was that just an act?) And now, are you as persistent as what you'd normally be in the first place? Since it doesn't seem like he's holding any grudges and stuff... But is still super passive about it all. And not sure if it's him trying to avoid it happening again or not willing to put up with it or.......? Just trying to have some light shed on this situation lol thanks. IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 16, 2018 06:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: That really hurts the most, I'm kind of crying just thinking about that type of scenario...
Aww lol not sure why that's cute. IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 539 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted December 16, 2018 07:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: ive given oral sex to people without kissing themmy eros is in aquarius my view of intimacy has to do with my connection to the other person and how far id go with certain bdsm **** , but i just dont really think to kiss someone i dont have feelings for if we're just friends and having sex
I have eros in Aquarius as well and for me thise things are more vulgar than romantic. I don’t like them. I have certain things I will do and not do and Id only hope the guy I love doesn’t want those things because I prefer not to. ------------------ I appreciate the masterpiece that is you, because your existence alone is art IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 539 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted December 16, 2018 07:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: Yes, I have the exact same issue. I get scared of saying or doing something stupid or odd even if it's something I really want to act upon, so I just shut down and end up doing something that's ACTUALLY stupid and naive. I get in my head too much because I'm afraid of messing up even if the situation shows promise. I definitely need someone to guide me and validate my feelings in feeling certain ways and let me know that I'm on the right path because otherwise I'll get too muddied up in my thoughts and everything becomes a little scary.
Yes for me that’s something I do as well. Guidance. I feel like I also seek validation because sometimes Im just not sure of anything. It’s strange buy I definitely get what you’re saying. My mind gets mixed up a lot as well. I overthink things. For you it might be even worse since you have mars in Pisces.
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 12:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: If they tell you they do like you, do you wait for them to make a move? And what is if they don't, do you make the move instead?
If they tell me they like me but no action (as in did not try to ask me out), I won't take them seriously because they could be just joking. IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 12:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: If they tell me they like me but no action (as in did not try to ask me out), I won't take them seriously because they could be just joking.
Darn I guess it makes sense. I guess my flakiness just adds to it since I'm just so unsure about him lol. And at this point it already feels foolish to hit him up altogether since he probably already developed the thought that I was kidding about it all. I feel that I f****d up. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 12:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: No, not really. If they tell me flat out that they aren't interested or their intentions aren't what I expected, then I'll just move on. I don't want to be clingy. It was like was someone else said earlier, Pisces is the type where if their lover or partner says they don't love you anymore we will feel so hurt inside but will not cling to them and try to make them stay. We will just accept their difference and learn to deal with our heartbreak. No point in making. Because, at least they told me flat out they don't care or they don't like me enough or they don't love me instead of staying with me and cheating or slowly hating me more. Honesty is the best policy with Pisces because we are so susceptible to outside factors. If you lie and we found out it would be even worse and probably life-threatening to us than if you had just said the truth from the beginning. I know some Pisces who really get in their feelings, like depression and suicidal thoughts, when they find out they've been lied to for extremely long periods of time. That really hurts the most, I'm kind of crying just thinking about that type of scenario...Just be honest with your feelings so we can deal with that heartbreak from the get go. It doesn't seem like it but it does hurt less that way for us.
The thought that they've never loved me... have been lying to me... can make me get all depressed and suicidal. I've a tofu heart. But once I close up my heart to them, I become really cold and they can get quite surprised like "what happened to Nemo??" Pisces easily imagines the worst. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 12:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: Darn I guess it makes sense. I guess my flakiness just adds to it since I'm just so unsure about him lol. And at this point it already feels foolish to hit him up altogether since he probably already developed the thought that I was kidding about it all. I feel that I f****d up.
I think you should just be honest with him about what happened. Pisces is quite forgiving. IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 01:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: I think you should just be honest with him about what happened. Pisces is quite forgiving.
I know it sounds foolish (or maybe not), but in the beginning at least I can't be vulnerable. It feels weird given that he's close to 5 years younger than me (something I'm only partially over). I feel that I need to guard myself. And the fact that I told him that I liked him, that in itself took a huge effort and loads of thought. So guess I'll have to think about what I'd do next. Part of me just hopes to find him in person so I can see the vibe live lol. And communicate based off of it. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 04:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: I know it sounds foolish (or maybe not), but in the beginning at least I can't be vulnerable. It feels weird given that he's close to 5 years younger than me (something I'm only partially over). I feel that I need to guard myself. And the fact that I told him that I liked him, that in itself took a huge effort and loads of thought. So guess I'll have to think about what I'd do next. Part of me just hopes to find him in person so I can see the vibe live lol. And communicate based off of it.
I absolute get where you are coming from. I can't be vulnerable in the beginning either (altohugh I usually don't let anyone in so early anyway, as in letting them into my heart) but 5 years difference is nothing. Don't worry about that. You wouldn't worry about it if he was 5 years older would you? IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 05:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by kani: I absolute get where you are coming from. I can't be vulnerable in the beginning either (altohugh I usually don't let anyone in so early anyway, as in letting them into my heart) but 5 years difference is nothing. Don't worry about that. You wouldn't worry about it if he was 5 years older would you?
Lol thanks not sure why but each person telling me to not worry about it helps extra. So thanks. I probably wouldn't mind if he's 5 years older than me since being younger and vulnerable is more endearing I guess? Like I feel it's an odd mix for some reason the being older but vulnerable. And also what you said applies to me too, I just have my walls up with everyone. He defies my existence in all ways lol. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 05:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: Lol thanks not sure why but each person telling me to not worry about it helps extra. So thanks. I probably wouldn't mind if he's 5 years older than me since being younger and vulnerable is more endearing I guess? Like I feel it's an odd mix for some reason the being older but vulnerable. And also what you said applies to me too, I just have my walls up with everyone. He defies my existence in all ways lol.
My boyfriend is 10 years younger, so maybe that'll help you even more haha! And of course we are vulnerable when feelings are involved it doesn't matter whether we are the older or the younger one in the relationship. That's just human nature.
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 17, 2018 07:39 AM
I've always attracted younger guys so no issue. I'm so used to it and I don't feel like the older sis, if that's your concern, Brenda. IP: Logged |