posted October 03, 2015 03:16 PM            

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This seems interesting, whose willing to take a spin at me? /
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Holy cow that's a lot of aspects. Aw, with Leo NN on your MC, you wanted to be sure we didn't miss anything.... (Yes, the roast has begun!)

So, wow you are young. Just getting started but you already have that d*mn moon-Pluto opposition (I censored the swear word because it's too harsh for young ears) with Pluto in the 1H and your sun and moon in the 7H. I feel that you are easy to get along with, people just have to run the gauntlet to get past your booby-trapped Scorpio ASC conjunct Lilith and Chiron and that Pluto. Holy **** that is a loaded ASC.

Maybe you throw up a wall of Sag cleverness to keep the weirdos (and by that I mean, the people others consider "normal") at bay? With your SN in Aquarius conjunct Uranus on the IC, home is where the high techy gadgets and exotic animals are, so it's good you have some filtering devices decked out on the ASC to keep the boring people on their side of the fence.

Not sure what to make of your 3H Aqua Neptune trine Gemini moon, but you are probably gentle, but quirky, and well-spoken. Ahh, if you are a Rabbit, even moreso. AND the Cancer Mercury-Ceres is yet another strand in this weave, AND the Libra Mars in the 12H. It's actually a major theme of your chart...sensitive, perceptive communication...in the right situations, with people who feel comfortable to you. Like weirdos at LL...we're your people.

Your 6H planets can make you a creature of habit and discipline; you probably like things predictable in some ways, to serve as a reliable springboard, from which to catapult yourself into new adventures (Gemini sun.)

All things considered I think your nodal axis is about learning to claim your place in the center of things despite some reclusive tendencies and strong preferences for certain types of people. Taurus Saturn is your "skipped step" squaring the nodes and so it may be the pressure point you need to reckon with...perfectionism, hoarding your money when you should be buying a fab wardrobe (LEO NN! MC!) and general aloofness need to be overcome. Also, take care not to scatter your energies with too many time-consuming, flippant little friendships. Your Leo NN wants a following. Build that.

posted October 03, 2015 03:23 PM            

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Holy cow that's a lot of aspects. Aw, with Leo NN on your MC, you wanted to be sure we didn't miss anything.... (Yes, the roast has begun!)

So, wow you are young. Just getting started but you already have that d*mn moon-Pluto opposition (I censored the swear word because it's too harsh for young ears) with Pluto in the 1H and your sun and moon in the 7H. I feel that you are easy to get along with, people just have to run the gauntlet to get past your booby-trapped Scorpio ASC conjunct Lilith and Chiron and that Pluto. Holy **** that is a loaded ASC.

Maybe you throw up a wall of Sag cleverness to keep the weirdos (and by that I mean, the people others consider "normal") at bay? With your SN in Aquarius conjunct Uranus, home is where the high techy gadgets and exotic animals are, so it's good you have some filtering devices decked out on the ASC to keep the boring people on their side of the fence.

Not sure what to make of your 3H Aqua Neptune trine Gemini moon, but you are probably gentle, but quirky, and well-spoken. Ahh, if you are a Rabbit, even moreso. AND the Cancer Mercury-Ceres is yet another strand in this weave, AND the Libra Mars in the 12H. It's actually a major theme of your chart...sensitive, perceptive communication...in the right situations, with people who feel comfortable to you. Like weirdos at LL...we're your people.

Your 6H planets can make you a creature of habit and discipline; you probably like things predictable in some ways, to serve as a reliable springboard, from which to catapult yourself into new adventures (Gemini sun.)

All things considered I think your nodal axis is about learning to claim your place in the center of things despite some reclusive tendencies and strong preferences for certain types of people. Taurus Saturn is your "skipped step" squaring the nodes and so it may be the pressure point you need to reckon with...perfectionism, hoarding your money when you should be buying a fab wardrobe (LEO NN! MC!) and general aloofness need to be overcome. Also, take care not to scatter your energies with too many time-consuming, flippant little friendships. Your Leo NN wants a following. Build that.

I can't roast you properly because you aren't old enough to have wrecked your life sufficiently yet. Come back in ten years with some battle wounds and tell us how it all went...

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Hhahah that was fun to read, hilarious

posted October 03, 2015 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I'm glad one of us DID actually get a reading...

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Oh hush! You know I love you and will skin you alive when I get a free moment...

ARIES

posted October 03, 2015 03:51 PM            

Are you the only one giving readings in here? Where the hell did everyone go? LOL

posted October 03, 2015 03:57 PM            

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Are you the only one giving readings in here? Where the hell did everyone go? LOL

I arrived too late. Yep, Aries *hates* being at the back of the line.

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posted October 03, 2015 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I can do your chart tonight if Faith doesn't have a chance to.

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I'll take you both!

posted October 03, 2015 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Leonisces:
Hhahah that was fun to read, hilarious

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Thank you....

Heck for that I will I join the unknown's smear campaign against you and have my own say!!

Looking for your chart...I know you posted it more than once, and the LEO in your screen name is giving me strong indications of why you did that....

Oh! Here it is. Yes you are a Leo sun.

But hmmmm not a very attention-greedy one after all?! 6H sun quincunx Cap stellium is pretty sedate, it's just all the 11H Cap that is here reveling in this twisted, metaphysical social experiment. Appropriate and predictable! Oh....let me re-use that phrase-- my Gemini Mas loves to say things twice-- "appropriate and predictable" also applies to Mercury in Virgo on the DSC. Mercury-DSC, these are people who really do want use their words to merge with people, it's almost like a full-fledged, grovelling Libra Mercury* and in Virgo, you have this added element of control, so that panache must be part of every transaction. Well if you are predictably "panache" that is your problem...speaking for myself, I think there are worse ways to be. (Disclaimer: I am in love with the sign of Virgo, so no one can expect a proper smack-down of their Virgo planets, from yours truly.)

So nifty how your NN is tightly conjunct mine, only yours is in the 8H, and you have my condolences, because with your Jupiter in Scorpio, too...egads that is like a Bermuda Triangle in your chart...could pull you DOWN. Only temporarily...since Jupiter floats as all inflated objects do...but you may just have a hard life in some ways that people do not understand, and will not understand. And I feel like that may be where your Cancer Mars loads up on its energy drinks. People underestimating you, not seeing how much you have overcome to be who you are, it might cause some emotional kick-back, as if to say, "BACK off!" And with Jupiter trine Mars and Saturn, this way cool grand trine...your emotional integrity will come through with that. Yeah like a ninja.

You come across very nice and reserved, with a lot of underlying fire, and it's attractive...you may have serious trouble disengaging from people that you only meant to be nice to, yet their goal is to become permanent fixtures in your life, riding the endless waves of your ASC-Saturn water grand trine. Hmph, but Saturn could also work the opposite way, deterring the very people who would be the most fun to have as permanent surfers on that wave! I really don't know.

Sun square 9H Pluto, with Scorpio Pluto dispositing the NN. :cross-eyes: What's that? There is some confusion because you have a Sag MC and that can be religious, but with all your Scorpio, it's hard to get really into that and keep yourself in any static philosophy...Scorpio goes down down down, transformationally, until it dies. Then Sag rebounds up. You may have a lot of tension between what you think you should believe and what you actually want to believe in and want to learn.

Ah and some of this may also get expressed by your moon with its siamese triplets Neptune and Uranus, thanks to the handy sextile from Pluto.

Well it's fine. You can bring together the deep, the deeper, the deepest in a kind of non-obtrusive way, yet with enough sparkle or sheer force to drive the point across...and I think people often thank you for the smile, the inspiration, the general expression of emotional togetherness (and emotional punch when need be!) that you convey. You convey that even though inner evolution may look a bit too openly raw at times...as when the Scorpio journey gets depressive, or Libra Venus squaring Cap planets is weirdly insecure despite having no reason for it whatsoever...or when Virgo Mercury picks up long-range vibes from Virgo Chiron and you express that...you can seem agitated and fully composed at once. You can seem vulnerable and invulnerable at once.

Good thing you have Gemini in the 3H because you need to be able to fully express the good and the difficult, both of them, often. Yes, mutable angles is a great thing here...if you chose that pre-incarnation, I have to say bravo.

I feel bad saying all this because you seem too nice for it. Stop making people feel bad because you are nicer than them, now there's some advice for you.

posted October 03, 2015 04:26 PM            

Thanks, the unknown! I've got dibbs on LovelyAries, because she's an Aries.

Capricorn just DREAMS of being able to have a boxing match with Aries, where it's rigged so the Cap must win!

It's gonna be awesome. I can taste victory already...at last...

posted October 03, 2015 11:19 PM            

I hope people don't think this is somehow my thread or my job or my obsession.

By all means, please roast each other!!!

I just want to give LovelyAries a reading because she has a kite, and I've always been jealous of that, so...I need to get this out of my system. Might not be able to do it tonight...but tomorrow...

posted October 03, 2015 11:49 PM            

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I just want to give LovelyAries a reading because she has a kite, and I've always been jealous of that, so...I need to get this out of my system. Might not be able to do it tonight...but tomorrow...

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I'm excited for your tough, tough love!

You know, I'm somewhat familiar with Grand Trines. But I really know nothing about Kites.

posted October 04, 2015 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Wow. Now this thread is deliciously nuts. LOL! But I'm game! Let's see what you wild people have got for me.

Holy sh*t. What am I getting myself into??

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I know, you are going to butt your Ram head and show me who you are. Too bad, your Aries sun and Node are all in 7th house. You are probably in love with every single option at hand that you can't seem to choose. To attack TheUnknown or not? That's the question, eh?

That's not only it though. Your soft, cuddly Cancer moon is right by your Midheaven, and your supposedly determined, strategic Capricorn mars is by your IC. To have a career or not? Maybe you should stay at home planning a family? But what about work? Your 6th Mercury cries! "Gosh, why can't people just love me!" - say your cancer midheaven and 5th jupiter.

Now you have a kite, thanks God!!! Otherwise your cancer moon is just going to whine. But it's aided by pluto and jupiter, so you do have a sense that you see things. And your 8th Venus doesn't back down from an intense, full-blown plutonic relationship. But your venus is in Taurus, so see, another contradiction. You just love the good things in life on this material plane. But life forces you to dig deeper, cause you see things. But you love the good things in life. But wait, wait, wait, what's over there. Let's put on some Aviator shades and hold feelings close to your chest.

Retrograde saturn is in 2nd house. So don't indulge too much now, cause you don't get to. And that mars in capricorn wants you to work, at home or not.

Sun trine uranus makes you quite a rebel, but you still have to worry about other feelings. Not so Arian, aint it?

I'm not surprised, with your cancer moon you go through bouts of low self-esteem. But that jupiter in 5th is gonna bring you plenty of mating options. So who cares?

posted October 04, 2015 04:02 PM            

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Hmmm

You have a little bit of everything. It's hard to read you because your chart is a lot like mine.

Well first: Really tough nodal axis you've got...it's hard to pull up from Cancer into Capricorn. And the Sag-Cap Cusp is particularly challenging, sometimes tragic, sometimes psychic, always intense. This NN and Uranus in the 4H is very complicated. You are destined to excel within a home environment, but the home environment you were born into may never feel like home. Always some disruptions. As a Cancer sun, 4H Uranus opposing your sun can be a real nuisance...you may just have a hard time feeling settled. But there's pressure to feel settled.

Now you have this kite: sun opposing Uranus, sun sextile Mars and Jupiter. I feel that this will offset some of your difficulties. And 5H Neptune conjunct Uranus helps you channel your annoyances into art, music, plain old colorful dreaminess.

You have a mystic rectangle: sun-Mars-Pluto-Neptune. Very powerful...you command a kind of force...especially with your Scorpio moon. Not sure what kind of communication you're up to but it's bound to stir people up...even if you are unaware of it.

I feel you must make a good impression. Jupiter in Virgo is prim, careful, and neat. When it's conjunct the ASC, you might even go overboard seeming too careful? Do you have to make sure the mug you're drinking out of matches your shirt, that kind of thing? But it's not like you appear ridiculous. Not with a 10H sun! And not with Jupiter in a grand trine with Saturn and 9H Mars. It's just that the Jupiter stuff overwhelms the Scorpio stuff a bit, and you have this push-pull where you can't tell whether to let it all loose (unfurl the power of your mystic rectangle, take on your Cap NN) or keep everything safe, buckled down and serious. It's like you have a ton of interesting energy all contained within a pretty vase that must never break.

The wide grand cross of 11H Mercury-3H Pluto-5H Aqua Saturn-9H Mars illustrates social tension yet again. And Mercury is conjunct Chiron. And Chiron is conjunct your progressed sun.

Ahhhh yes...you might feel lost with all this. You're kinda super complicated. And the Capricorn signature of your chart (Cap NN, Cap Uranus apex of kite, 10H sun) finds that rather difficult to work with. You may feel like you have to capitalize on every single one of your talents...figure out a way to be everything at once. And yet...with 4H NN, you ask yourself, "What for?" Because maybe your most intense goals are private.

Private goals are difficult.

I'm a Cap sun with a 4H NN and I relate.

Anyway, so...the thing that's [b]wrong with you is, you're thinking there is something wrong with you. But there isn't. You are just complicated. That's fine.[/B]

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I completely see where you're coming from with what you said.. A lot of my experiences in life so far have had a lot of tragedy and I've experienced a lot of psychic type things in life so far..

Does NN and Uranus in the 4H meaning disruptions in the home enviroment I was born into being disruptive, does this mean also it will always be disruptive? Or does that only count for where I was born? Do these placements mean for me a continuous experience of hard time feeling settled/pressure to feel settled at the same time?

With my communication I think I have difficulty relating in the average communcation style, I always seem to go into deep topics straight away with people, usually about kindof intense things like how I can physically see energy moving sometimes, or how I feel animals come to us at certain points in our lives for a lesson, I guess I just don't know what else to start a conversation about. I usually am either thanked or looked at like I'm crazy.. A lot of people have approached me and told me I changed their life after a conversation I had with them.. I was spending a lot of time at parties because for a long time the only way I could cope being around people would be by numbing myself a bit with alcohol so I spent a lot of time speaking to random people I'd meet speaking about deeply spiritual topics quite a lot.

Yes I love to match things and that sorta stuff, it gives me a happy feeling to have the same colours on my book to my socks for example.. Yes I am experiencing that constant push-pull ! I experience psychic things a lot, sometimes if I go to the woods the trees are colourful and moving like how they would be in a psychedelic experience, but I'm sober or whatever ? I feel like I want to free myself to open myself to these experiences but at the same time I have a very bad habit of holding myself back, feeling negative about myself, that I am probably just mad or something, or not good enough, or I dunno.

Yeah I find social experiences difficult in general although I wish that wasn't the case.

posted October 04, 2015 06:18 PM            

Ah, good job.

I would have lingered a bit longer in LovelyAries' weirdo 3H.

3H Cap Mars-Neptune, base of kite, with 9H Cancer moon at the apex
3H Sag Uranus square Mercury

Odd mix!

There's the whole mutable grand cross represented there...what with the Gemini nature of the 3H, and a Sag planet there, and the Virgo nature of the 6H, with a Pisces Mercury.

So you have Cap Mars aggressiveness taking up the burdens of an agitated 9H Cancer moon (under the muffler of Neptune, but still...) and that weird Sag Uranus/Aries sun moral fury firing off just once in a while, like, uh....

(Well that's a bit dramatic, but...for emphasis! I mean, you have 1H Scorpio Pluto after all...)

...and that's rising up like a shark you would not expect to see (!) in an otherwise lovely sea of very very mutable and flexible, not to mention sparkly and loving, communication.

posted October 04, 2015 06:34 PM            

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These responses sum up exactly the wishy-washy nature of your chart.

I know, you are going to butt your Ram head and show me who you are. Too bad, your Aries sun and Node are all in 7th house. You are probably in love with every single option at hand that you can't seem to choose. To attack TheUnknown or not? That's the question, eh?

That's not only it though. Your soft, cuddly Cancer moon is right by your Midheaven, and your supposedly determined, strategic Capricorn mars is by your IC. To have a career or not? Maybe you should stay at home planning a family? But what about work? Your 6th Mercury cries! "Gosh, why can't people just love me!" - say your cancer midheaven and 5th jupiter.

Now you have a kite, thanks God!!! Otherwise your cancer moon is just going to whine. But it's aided by pluto and jupiter, so you do have a sense that you see things. And your 8th Venus doesn't back down from an intense, full-blown plutonic relationship. But your venus is in Taurus, so see, another contradiction. You just love the good things in life on this material plane. But life forces you to dig deeper, cause you see things. But you love the good things in life. But wait, wait, wait, what's over there. Let's put on some Aviator shades and hold feelings close to your chest.

Retrograde saturn is in 2nd house. So don't indulge too much now, cause you don't get to. And that mars in capricorn wants you to work, at home or not.

Sun trine uranus makes you quite a rebel, but you still have to worry about other feelings. Not so Arian, aint it?

I'm not surprised, with your cancer moon you go through bouts of low self-esteem. But that jupiter in 5th is gonna bring you plenty of mating options. So who cares?

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^^I enjoyed that roast, Unknown! LOL

It's true that a part of me is definitely a rebel and a pioneer that does whatever the hell she wants! But because of my Libra & Cancer influences....I'm also pulled to think of and look out for others as well. It's a task to manage the two sides!! But I've really gotten much better at accepting both sides of myself.

It's not just about me.

It's not just about you.

It's about what is right and what is just. *Libra talking*

But I'll rip you a new a$$hole if you test me - it can get ugly. *Aries now talking* lol

My Cancer Moon truly does have so many layers to it. With Pluto, Jupiter, Mars & Neptune aspecting it?! Boy lol. I can indeed be cuddly and sensitive. You're right about that! But not all the time, and not in every circumstance. I'm kind and attentive....but never gullible or anybody's fool. I'm quite protective - of myself, my loved ones and my values. WILL FIGHT HARD ABOUT THIS.

You are spot on about my Venus. I'm practical, consistent and earthy like Taurus. But "surface" relationships BORE ME TO DEATH - my 8th House influence demands depth and intensity. Absolutely must have something more.

posted October 04, 2015 07:05 PM            

I shiver when you call me weirdo. It excites me! Ohhh yesss.

I dig my strong 3rd House energy. I guess that's why I click so well with Gemini Males?? Also, I know that my Mars is conjunct the IC. But is that more significant than my Mars actually sitting in the 3rd House? Want to know your thoughts on this since you have Gemini Mars yourself.

And I just love this photo! LMAO

Dramatic or not, this actually describes me well. So good man. LOL

I'm initially a polite individual towards everyone. Like you said - that sparkly mutable Pisces talk is there. And the Libra ASC is fair and pleasant. But Boy!! If a person f*cks up and absurdly mistakes me for a fool....Aries Sun attacks viciously and 1H Pluto completely SKINS THEM ALIVE. And my Cap Mars will simply shut you out like you are an irrelevant piece of doo-doo beneath my shoe afterwards. People cannot take it!

What should I look out for most with Jupiter square Uranus? I'll definitely take your advice.

posted October 05, 2015 11:15 AM            

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Does NN and Uranus in the 4H meaning disruptions in the home enviroment I was born into being disruptive, does this mean also it will always be disruptive? Or does that only count for where I was born? Do these placements mean for me a continuous experience of hard time feeling settled/pressure to feel settled at the same time?

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I have this placement myself. I enjoyed and recommend this video:
Uranus in the 4th House

That astrologer is the first one I encountered who hit upon the magnitude of the situation as I perceive it. He says we need to have a lot of compassion for ourselves. And I think watching him created a turning point in my mind, where I finally accepted my nomadic tendencies, and started to integrate them into my goals (4H NN), instead of denying them and feeling like there was something wrong with me for being antsy. Not sure if you feel the same way, but we do have that same problem, of having to contend with 4H Uranus and NN.

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A lot of people have approached me and told me I changed their life after a conversation I had with them.. I was spending a lot of time at parties because for a long time the only way I could cope being around people would be by numbing myself a bit with alcohol so I spent a lot of time speaking to random people I'd meet speaking about deeply spiritual topics quite a lot.

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That definitely makes sense, considering your whole chart. Jupiter-ASC trine 5H Neptune, sun on the 11H cusp, Scorpio moon...yep, that's what you'd do.

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Thank you a lot for your reply It was good for me to read that it's okay that I am just complicated because I've been in a constant state of confusion for as long as I can remember

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You're welcome, and thanks for the feedback. As for "complicated"...it takes one to know one. I'm similar to you but much older, and only recently started realizing that it's okay to be me, and I am different from a lot of people. The scattered chart is its own challenge, but it's not inferior to any other chart.

Best wishes~

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I dig my strong 3rd House energy. I guess that's why I click so well with Gemini Males??

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It'd make sense. Also Aries & Gemini are like peas & carrots.

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Also, I know that my Mars is conjunct the IC. But is that more significant than my Mars actually sitting in the 3rd House?

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I think your Mars is too far from the IC for it to have a serious impact.

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Want to know your thoughts on this since you have Gemini Mars yourself.

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Not sure what you are asking?

Well, your 3H Mars is similar to mine in Gemini. There is a drive to communicate.

We both have Mars aspecting the moon, Neptune, and Pluto. Cap Mars ruling your sun, Cap sun quincunx my Mars.

When these planets are cooperating, we are mellow yet insightful people, slow to anger, and harmlessly imaginative. Under certain conditions, however, we can imagine or exaggerate problems, and attack them with a self-righteous and oblivious overkill. If we're lucky enough to grow wiser as we age, without succumbing to amnesia, we'll probably look back at those moments in horror.

I feel that my 11H Mars causes me to do a lot of diverse, social multitasking, whereas your 3H Cap Mars means that your overall communication is confident, reserved, and poised to handle conflict. Your Aries sun must love having this bada$$, exalted Mars for its ruler, and I feel that "throwing your weight around" gives you an enjoyable sense of yourself. I don't get the same kind of satisfaction from winning arguments. It's nice to be competent, but my 12H Leo Saturn won't let me keep any trophies.

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What should I look out for most with Jupiter square Uranus?

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I subscribe to the idea that we are luckiest when we honor the spirit of our Jupiter sign. I first encountered this theory in one of Gary Goldschneider's books, The Secret Language of Luck. I don't have the book on hand so I can't offer you details...but the general idea is that you, LovelyAries, will be luckiest when you are expansively accepting, aligned with the spirit of Pisces Jupiter. In that spirit, good things will come to you. When your Sag Uranus is expressing the lower vibration of itself, manifesting in erratic behavior, religious eccentricity, or whatever it does, it detracts from your ability to channel universal love. When Sag Uranus is evolved, you "solve the square" and live whatever Sag-type doctrines you may subscribe to, inspiring people with your brilliance and compassion. The universe rewards this.

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