posted July 19, 2016 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
So this whole time we've been discussing the dark side of Sag (as in their behavior), but I think it is worth mentioning a few dark sides of BEING a Sag (as in what comes with it).

1.) People often try to take advantage of Sag's generous nature (most Sag would give you the shirt of their backs without much issue).

2.) JEALOUSLY. Oh-my-goodness. Sag people face alot of jealousy from others. Nearly all of the Sag people I knew growing up had this problem.

Those are the main two that really hit me today. Any others will be added later

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Interesting thread. The Sag rising folks have for the most part been difficult ones for me. One guy, that luckily I didn't date, had been talking to someone about the a previous evening and I don't think he thought I would put two and two together--he spent the evening with two women and not just one.

A girl I knew from high school said she had done stuff she wasn't proud of and that fits with some of the stuff you talked about. I reconnected and disconnected with her over the last year and could have just skipped the whole experience as I came to the conclusion that they weren't my friend. Their chart ruling planet, Jupiter was in their 2nd house in Capricorn.

Another man I met with Sag rising, Sun in Aquarius. Same with some of the things you said about their eye opening adventures--glad to have pulled the plug on this one.

I will give them this--they do very well in achieving their goals, but most others around them are distant secondary partners/friends. I'm sure there is an exception or rare case, but I think their Sun would need to be in the 9th house or somewhere in their chart that would lead them to a higher consciousness or compassionate take on life.

I would have never thought that what you wrote is more common, but now it makes sense.

posted July 20, 2016 10:36 AM              

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
@LittleBlackCat: LOL, I got Caribbean in my fam so I know what's good . That's true about our PinS generation. They can take it too far and don't think there is any consequences. I am Plutonian on top of being in the PinS generation, so I see what's going on. Even so, I am not one of those Plutonians that's either black & white. I acknowledge the shades in the middle/beyond.

I agree with your points on the dark sides of BEING a Sag (I am not a Sag btw). I have a close friend who's a Sag and people oftentimes take advantage of her good nature. Sags can be the most forgiving people out there. I <3 Sags lol.

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I am pretty much like this: when it comes to HOW or WHY people do things, I acknowledge the shades in the middle. When it comes to what is right or wrong I am pretty black and white. Basically actions fall into clear categories but feelings usually don't. I know I can word that better as well but it's good enough lol

I can relate to your friend. I am always helping others and being extremely considerate but it is not appreciated. It's like everyone is used to me being helpful / nice so they just expect it, but when another less kind person does something nice for a change it is met with extreme appreciation. The difference between your friend and I is that I'm not very forgiving to be honest (Scorpio Asc.). I am very kind but once you show me who you are I can treat you with extreme coldness. It makes me laugh with irony when they're like, "wow you are so mean what did I ever do to you?", as if they can't remember, ha! I can give you my last dollar but if you mistreat me I can also watch you die in the middle of the street without batting an eye (especially if the feeling is fresh).

posted July 20, 2016 11:00 AM              

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Interesting thread. The Sag rising folks have for the most part been difficult ones for me. One guy, that luckily I didn't date, had been talking to someone about the a previous evening and I don't think he thought I would put two and two together--he spent the evening with two women and not just one.

A girl I knew from high school said she had done stuff she wasn't proud of and that fits with some of the stuff you talked about. I reconnected and disconnected with her over the last year and could have just skipped the whole experience as I came to the conclusion that they weren't my friend. Their chart ruling planet, Jupiter was in their 2nd house in Capricorn.

Another man I met with Sag rising, Sun in Aquarius. Same with some of the things you said about their eye opening adventures--glad to have pulled the plug on this one.

I will give them this--they do very well in achieving their goals, but most others around them are distant secondary partners/friends. I'm sure there is an exception or rare case, but I think their Sun would need to be in the 9th house or somewhere in their chart that would lead them to a higher consciousness or compassionate take on life.

I would have never thought that what you wrote is more common, but now it makes sense.

Have a great day!
Spring

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Hi Spring, glad you found the thread interesting

I am not very familiar with Sag rising types but your descriptions have helped me piece some things together. It actually makes a lot of sense b/c what I've noticed is the Ascendant (regardless of sign) tend to exhibit both the positive and (unfortunately) the negatively qualities of a sign much more visibly. Oh no an Aquarius with Sag rising sounds both interesting and scary! I know someone with Aquarius Sun and Sag moon and he is amazingly selfish.

What you said about achieving goals is very true, and that's one of the traits that are obvious in Sag sun as well (esp. if they are Cap influenced, which Sag usually is). I give money and material things very easily but I would be lying if I said I gave freely of my emotions or even too much of my time. People have definitely expressed feeling secondary in my life (especially when I turn down movie invites or gatherings to study / work). Sun and Venus in the first can make me generous like Leo and accommodating like Libra, but I can also be extremely focused on self (1st house).

The idea is that I can be of more use to myself and others if I improve my position in life. However, Jupiter in the 9th and my chart ruler Pluto in the 12th make me pretty spiritually aware. I know money and things can't replace affection / quality time so I'm very conscious of this trait, never allowing it to reach to the degree of the people you described (but it is definitely there).

posted July 22, 2016 08:45 PM            

Im regards to my friend she has a Cap moon, so she's very simple/practical. I suspect she's more of the highly evolved Cap moons. So she doesn't really hold grunges or is petty.

posted July 23, 2016 03:35 PM              

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
@LittleBlackCat: LOL, damn that is cold? Can't say that I don't know where that sentiment comes from. As Cardi B says, "If a b1tch beef with me, we gon' beef foreva"

Im regards to my friend she has a Cap moon, so she's very simple/practical. I suspect she's more of the highly evolved Cap moons. So she doesn't really hold grunges or is petty.

What's your moon sign? Where is your Lilith?

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Cold....perhaps

However it is also loving and wonderful in a way. Think about it. I'm showing love to myself by staying the h3ll away from people that aren't good for nor appreciate me. As a byproduct, they also tend to stay away from me as well (which is within their best interest). So everybody wins. It's not like I will think about them morning, noon, and night. Nope not at all, they just better hope they are never in any crisis when I'm around b/c I wouldn't help...I'd just watch lol

Ok I'm sure I sound evil (damn Pluto energy). Seriously though I'm as sweet as honey. Unless a person actually intends on being a mean, unappreciative, abuser they have absolutely nothing to worry about. I'm not "petty" in any way though (if you were implying that grudges are petty). I am like this b/c of the exact opposite reason. I make sure to be considerate no matter how small or "insignificant" something may seem b/c I'm caring so why is it so hard for others? Nevertheless it does depend on the situation. For example I argue with people on here all the time and then have discussions later (except a few really non-tolerable folks). Half the time though I can't even remember the username of who I argued with and I am liable to even post in a new thread they make or respond nicely when they post in my threads bwahahaha (I just don't care).

posted July 25, 2016 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Cold....perhaps

However it is also loving and wonderful in a way. Think about it. I'm showing love to myself by staying the h3ll away from people that aren't good for nor appreciate me. As a byproduct, they also tend to stay away from me as well (which is within their best interest). So everybody wins. It's not like I will think about them morning, noon, and night. Nope not at all, they just better hope they are never in any crisis when I'm around b/c I wouldn't help...I'd just watch lol

Ok I'm sure I sound evil (damn Pluto energy). Seriously though I'm as sweet as honey. Unless a person actually intends on being a mean, unappreciative, abuser they have absolutely nothing to worry about. I'm not "petty" in any way though (if you were implying that grudges are petty). I am like this b/c of the exact opposite reason. I make sure to be considerate no matter how small or "insignificant" something may seem b/c I'm caring so why is it so hard for others? Nevertheless it does depend on the situation. For example I argue with people on here all the time and then have discussions later (except a few really non-tolerable folks). Half the time though I can't even remember the username of who I argued with and I am liable to even post in a new thread they make or respond nicely when they post in my threads bwahahaha (I just don't care).

My moon is in Gemini (House 8)
My Lilith is in Sag cazimi my Sun.
Why?

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I agree with most of what you are saying. What I meant by cold is the thing you said about watching someone ...... I know you are joking but damnnn words have meaning... I will at least call the po-po or Dr. Phil

Grudges are not petty (some of the time), they are necessary for people like us. BUT holding onto grudges preys on our lower Pluto energy. I want to raise my vibration and stuff like that can hold me back/keep me down.

I will NEVER FORGET what someone did to me, hence the Cardi B quote. BUT I am learning to Let it Go like James Bay (the feelings attached with the person/not the person themselves. It only hurts me.

BTW the petty comment I was referring to myself and my friend. I remember a biitch did something to me and my Sag friend suggested I took the high road. She's that kind of person; forgiving but not forgetting. I did let it go; but I still hate that bittch till this day. Maybe it's a Cap moon thing (maturity and stuff).

posted July 29, 2016 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Yeah.... I fit in this. Add to my Sagitarrius Sun a Pluto that is conjunct and a secretive Scorpio mercury and you got a secret weirdo no one knows.
I always come across as innocent and meek. Profesorrs often comment that i am "too meek". They have no idea. :laugh:

All Sagitarrius folks surrender to one side. Black or white. Im something inbetween, more on the Black side even if my mask is white.

Ive done things no one coould imagine im capable of, because i seem so weak and lame-ish. Nothing bad, just out of The ordinary for my physical age. No harm involved though.

I was always imune to violence/aduse. I explored a lot of my animalic side and i know its there. When i was 13 i actually tested myself to see how far i can go with real abuse. Watched slaughter houses work, made me sad and stopped and instead focused on graphic violent deaths of people. I Watched the entire slaughtered vomit dolls trilogy that is increddibly graphic and bloody. Famous srpski film. Melancolie der eengel. And i.didn’t even flinch. I went deeeper to actual videos of people killed în prisons, that had their neckk cut slowly, Again nothing.

It probably also has to do with my soldier past life. Its my latest one. I was în the invasion of Crimeea and there was a lot of abuse.

Yet still, from a young age i discovered many things myself and it all came naturally to me. Death, my own spirit trapped here, sex. I admit im a very sexual individual too but i wont go în detail with this

Yay for saggi's

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posted July 29, 2016 10:01 PM            

So how often do these videos put a human face on the victims? That is, show their life, plans, who they are, what they like, what they intended to do rather than get slaughtered.

It's easy for many people to say "that's life" when the person isn't someone they really empathize with or care about. Shooting a deer usually doesn't get much of a reaction, but shooting Bambi can really upset people.

'Course if these vids DO show the victims as real people like I described, then that would be far more disturbing, though OTOH, knowing that would be good because then I know it's not so much apathy and curiosity and even trying to better understand pain and death, but rather a power trip. In which case, showing the victims as people with lives as complex as your own would make it sweeter rather than unbearable.

posted July 30, 2016 03:12 AM              

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
I agree with most of what you are saying. What I meant by cold is the thing you said about watching someone ...... I know you are joking but damnnn words have meaning... I will at least call the po-po or Dr. Phil

Grudges are not petty (some of the time), they are necessary for people like us. BUT holding onto grudges preys on our lower Pluto energy. I want to raise my vibration and stuff like that can hold me back/keep me down.

I will NEVER FORGET what someone did to me, hence the Cardi B quote. BUT I am learning to Let it Go like James Bay (the feelings attached with the person/not the person themselves. It only hurts me.

BTW the petty comment I was referring to myself and my friend. I remember a biitch did something to me and my Sag friend suggested I took the high road. She's that kind of person; forgiving but not forgetting. I did let it go; but I still hate that bittch till this day. Maybe it's a Cap moon thing (maturity and stuff).

I watched the Peacedealer's Lilith series so that's why I asked.

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I wasn't joking about watching though (okihavetoaddthelolofcourse)

The thing is you are right in many ways and I have to admit that (even if it bothers me). I seriously hate the idea that someone else can hurt me and my natural emotional reaction then hurts me more on top of it. It's not fair. However I know life is not fair and so I keep that in mind. You make sense.

posted August 02, 2016 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
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So how often do these videos put a human face on the victims? That is, show their life, plans, who they are, what they like, what they intended to do rather than get slaughtered.

It's easy for many people to say "that's life" when the person isn't someone they really empathize with or care about. Shooting a deer usually doesn't get much of a reaction, but shooting Bambi can really upset people.

'Course if these vids DO show the victims as real people like I described, then that would be far more disturbing, though OTOH, knowing that would be good because then I know it's not so much apathy and curiosity and even trying to better understand pain and death, but rather a power trip. In which case, showing the victims as people with lives as complex as your own would make it sweeter rather than unbearable.

In any case, I know many shows become unbearable to some because they have something terrible happen to people the viewers empathize with (like Spike trying to rape Buffy in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) then it's a bit like having it happen to the viewer as part of the viewer sympathizes and puts themselves in the character's place. Of course if the same and worse happens to some random character barely known, well that doesn't bother the same viewer, at least not at a gut level.

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Why would it be disturbing to show the victims lives? At the end of the day, in the films they are slaughtered. Why does it matter if they were a senator, a football player, a loving mother or father? That is their life story, when they die as life grants that wish someday, you'll be forgotten but not your memories.

I have seen a lot of gruesome things in life and im young. From people laying helplessly on the floor with a pool of blood near their heads. Soldiers getting beheaded, young folks dying from gunshot wounds.

These things that happen in this world is normal. We live in an animal world and somehow humans forgot that we are animals too. Maybe I lack empathy or I have been exposed to these things early on and they don't seem to phase me. But I do know that its apart of life.

posted August 02, 2016 10:42 PM            

Rather than making me cold to it, I find it harder to watch in media than people who have not experienced those things, even when it didn't aggravate my PTSD. When I see brutality onscreen, I have a good idea if not intimate knowledge on how that feels (and can even imagine the smells of it), and that makes me cringe more than the average person.

I've known people who were not only cold to it, but who took enjoyment in inflicting it others, and it's rather interesting in retrospect that I called such people friends once upon a time (not that I helped them with that, I just overlooked it). On the other end of the spectrum were those who watched and endured such violence who became almost monk like, and not only turned the other cheek themselves, but tried to stop others from avenging them.

My GUESS on why some become cold fast is that they lose any sense of connection to others (and I recall reading something of those raised without intimate caring in the first year of their life didn't form neural connections that allowed them to bond or empathize with others that would affect them for the rest of their lives), which would be easy to happen in say a war zone where people are brutalized and killed a lot, leaving many orphans and putting parents and such in a state of constant numbness, even shell shock, and even more so if imprisoned somehow, like "comfort girls" the Japanese took girls for (that is to say, it's an indirect result of violence rather than the violence itself).

This is why, as surprising as it often is, experiencing a life of violence can make some very compassionate, while others are psychopaths who never experienced any hardship or violent trauma. I could share about a great grandmother I knew who described the most horrific things she saw--and did (including slit a soldier's throat while he was raping her mother)--before she even hit puberty who was one of the most compassionate individuals I ever met.

posted August 02, 2016 10:45 PM            

Many of those killed in horror and action movies are obnoxious, so it's not even that uncommon for people to clap and cheer when they get killed. That is, the victims were designed to be hated by the viewers. Those set up to be liked by the audience usually survive, even kill the killer (at least until the sequel when the killer or monster returns, or a new threat arises).

I'm aware some of are like you, but many aren't, even with your background. And that's beside the point anyway. Those films are made for mass consumption, and thus I believe you're not the target audience. I've seen children act bored at the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and I'm pretty sure the vast majority who see movies like that without visible flinching have never seen a violent murder, let alone experienced anything like that, and that means they're not uncaring because they understand it, but rather quite the opposite (in a way it's similar to Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd hurting each other, at a gut level the viewers don't see it as real).

So I'd think shows that try to sell the gore want to put the focus on the acts themselves, and not on the people that it happens to, unless it was to make the victims unlikable. Just as most would get upset if someone they related to (by design of the film maker) were killed, then seeing people like that should upset them more, either because they sympathize, and/or because they think "that could happen to me!" But if I'm wrong on that, if scriptwriters are intentionally making these victims people we identify with before having them gorily killed, then I'd like to know because it puts a new twist on how I see things.

posted August 22, 2016 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Midnitehour:
Why would it be disturbing to show the victims lives? At the end of the day, in the films they are slaughtered. Why does it matter if they were a senator, a football player, a loving mother or father? That is their life story, when they die as life grants that wish someday, you'll be forgotten but not your memories

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I just saw this which explores that question, and mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS3PnACoO88

It talks about how rare it is to show the victims of slaughter has having lives as complex and heartfelt as our own, that is not just strangers we get to see die, but those the audience got to know first, and in the case of The Body in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, a major character for years, one that I know has tore some people up, from war veterans to a guy bored of images in Hellraiser of people torn apart by razors, quite a different reaction from the "meh" and shrug of the shoulders that many other deaths onscreen get, even when a lot more gory and drawn out. I was once on a board that was devoted to a scifi/horror author (with members who watched the goriest stuff) and there was a thread on the most disturbing, even tearjerking, moments, and plenty of jaded horror fans also mentioned The Body from Buffy, though the character had died fast and from natural causes (that is, her death was actually enviable, the ones to pity are the living).

Though that could be because it gets more real to them as well (as many have experienced mothers and such dying in their own lives) so that they cringe more as I do from the more violent flicks, I don't think that's the case as I recently heard from a guy who sounds as if he had a very sheltered childhood, mother still alive, and he was in grief from that episode as if his own mother had died (this is a show in which death is commonplace), one that disrupted his life for weeks.

Also, I've known jaded horror and slasher fans more tore up by the death in Disney's Bridge to Terabithia, and they didn't even show the little girl dying or dead, just the unexpected funeral and people's lives falling apart over the death.

posted September 15, 2018 07:40 AM            

I thought long and hard about it: was it the lack of water, the ambitious Capricorn rising and Venus? Or maybe the Moon conjunct Pluto, or the Mars opposite Saturn (I know right, what a guy).

In the end, I also (and mostly?) pinpointed his Jupiter in the first house. It was the Jupiter that seduced the range of enablers and made him pull it all off with a smirky charm and unfeathered conscience. So, yes, I have a rethink about Jupiter now. I do believe it can be a brutal steam roller when it wants what it wants. And I guess, because it's long-term, big picture, looking over the small things right under the nose comes easily and the means can be justified to accomplish the ends.

posted September 15, 2018 09:45 AM            

In a roundabout way, I'll add my own findings. Between Sagittarius and Scorpio, I've noted a small theme throughout my observations, of a sort of dynamic that plays out between them.

Scorpio and Sagittarius isn't just limited to sun sign. I'll just be calling them by their name, without particular emphasis on where the sign is. And with these two,

I've noted interesting interactions between these two signs, and one of the main themes I've noticed is that Scorpio can and will (consciously or not) go after Sagittarius. Especially if the Sagi (sag heavy or sag influenced person in general) appears to be upbeat or happy and jovial. Some Sagi's are trying to get to know their darkness, some not.

The Scorpio individual feels things intensely. Intense love, intense hate, intense sadness, depression. They, in a way, have "married the night" within themselves, and feel the intense transformation of everything both beautiful and agonizing.

When the Scorpio realizes that a Sagi appears to be too jovial, too long, or not sad or hurt enough or long enough for the Sagi to experience a complete inner "death", then this activates Scorpio's inner mission = to find the truth. The truth of ourselves and others, and the world at large.

They will see the Sagi's attitude as being deceitful, either being deceitful to themselves, or to others, though not always actively aware of the deceit, and without desire to harm (sometimes).

Scorpio will want Sagi to know who they are and what they are truly capable of, for good or for ill. Scorpio, in some way, will think "you're hiding something, you're being dishonest, now let me push your buttons until you crack and show me the truth!"

Then the little jabs come, then it becomes full on stabbing (metaphorical). Scorpio is about power, so if the Sagi runs from the jabs, it will be seen as weakness, so then this will trigger Scorpio to become worse with Sagi. Inevitably, the Sagittarius type individual will likely just hate the Scorpio, or wish to run away.

In the scenario that the Sagittarius type does escape the Scorpio, it is only a matter of time before they meet another Scorpionic type. They could make a friend, who doesn't seem too Scorpio at first. And then, somehow, The Sagittarius individual does something, and then, in this new friend, the Scorpio is activated, and the Sagi is gutted. Eventually, this drives Sagittarius to be distrustful, especially of people who might hold up a mirror to Sagittarius and show them all of their pain that they haven't acknowledged, or all of their possible deviance.

So, throughout their life, Sagi's and Scorpios will find themselves attracted to each other, not necessarily romantically, but something will draw them together. If one Scorpio in the life of a Sagi doesn't get the job done, then, another Scorpio will come along. And then another, and another, until, finally, hopefully, the Sagittarius learns more about themselves, and gaining that 'full death transformation' that Sagi secretly craves, on some level - thus breaking the cycle.

posted September 15, 2018 02:07 PM            

To me, Sagittarius brings its light to everything. It connects two things that seem to have no relation to each other. It lets you see things from a new perspective. So this could be related to the "out of the box/out of this world" description we associate with Sag. It's also reactionary. So it can fuel its fire depending on how it reacts, and that can go to the depths of what we consider extreme.

I have a Sag Sun conjunct Jupiter by 2-3 degrees in my 4th. But it also squares my Moon in 1st and Saturn in 7th. I also have a Cappy stellium and a Virgo Asc. All my life I've felt an innate responsibility to change myself to serve others since I was a kid. But I have strong Neptune contacts as well. I'm also giving to a fault and the furthest thing away from psychopathic. But have gotten more guarded as I've grown.

I found something the other day related to the Egyptian zodiac (not sure if it's the Zodiac exactly, but I found a list of personality descriptions that correlate to date of births) and here is the description for November 27-December 18, March 1-10:

Osiris
Osiris is the god of the underworld. Those who take their birth under this sign are extremely perplexing as misunderstood. Their strengths are dynamism, intelligence, smartness, and enterprising. Their only weakness is that they try to avoid responsibility. These people are good in teaching and selling. Osiris people are optimistic, passionate, and positive about their future and therefore excellent with starting new endeavours.

posted September 15, 2018 02:20 PM            

Case in point, 2 weeks ago, a Sagi stellium I know, he grabbed my boob and squeezed a little bit when we were in an elevator together. He rubbed his thumb over the area where my nipple was. When I pointed out what he was doing, he just said "oh, sorry! I thought that was your arm." yeh sure...

What kind of arms are you used to??

When I was a teen, a Sagi female friend of mine loved cupping my boobs. I always blushed and asked her not to do it, but she kept on. She also tried to kiss me a few times like it ain't no thang.

Another Sagi guy I know, this was a year ago, he said "excuse me" when I was in his way of the kitchen sink. As he said excuse me, he cupped my pus*y and moved me aside by holding onto it. He and I didn't even flirt together, and we barely knew each other.

And yet another Sagi girl! This was some time ago. She was sort of a friend. i was on my way to the bathroom to shower. I was just wearing a robe. She blocked my way to the bathroom and started talking to me, and got really flirty. She then grabbed my robe belt, undid it, and my robe flew open. She then proceeded to try and fondle my breasts. I grabbed my robe and closed it asap, telling her not to do that again! Then excused myself.

Annnd another experience, not long ago, with another Sagi man. he sat next to me on the couch, we were all talking together. When everyone was gone, he began speaking to me, and I was wearing shorts. he put his hand on my thigh and began caressing very quickly, moving to my inner thigh and going up toward my goods. I just said "please don't do that! O.O" and he stopped immediately.

posted September 15, 2018 11:07 PM            

Sagittarius comes after the inward reflective nature of Scorpio. And just before the community focus of Capricorn.

I was reflecting on this last night. Is the Sagittarius statement something like:

*I have no need to dwell inwardly on the intenser side of life, I can now travel extrovertedly and buoyantly into the community
*Having now gained intense insight into life and people I am regenerated and I will now expand into the community, and find a philosophical framework (good or bad one) for insights gained
*How can I use my insights and learn how to exploit resources (people are resources) to gain status in my community, as I move toward Capricorn
*I can now be fun and cheerful outwardly, but the things discovered in the 8H/Scorpio have not been eliminated

Etc...

Fusing 8H/Scorpio energy is part of the journey of Sagittarius.

posted September 16, 2018 01:31 AM            

It’s funny that you put Ville Valo right in the middle of that. I’m not all that convinced by his tough image... I think he’s trying to sell his music lol

Sagittarians with Scorpio (mainly Scorpio Mercury) in their charts do have an interest in taboo things... which doesn’t necessarily make them evil or sinister people.

But I’ve also known Sagittarians with zero Scorpio placements and they were actually extremely lighthearted, “class clown” personality type... even more so than even my Gemini friends...

posted September 16, 2018 08:36 AM            

loooool I laughed so much reading your post

it reminds me of my own experiences with sags!

my older sag cousin was my sex educator!...she thought me very subtle things you could do for gaining maximum pleasure...she's not shy at all in giving you a little preview!

then comes my high school friend, with whom I used to hang out a lot and always sit at the back of the classrooms reading graphic novels!...all we talked about was, guessed it right, sex!...she would touch, grab, slap and kiss and find it not inappropriate at all!...and when I would tell her "hey, what are you doing?!" with a shocked look on my face, she would say, "come one, relax, it's cool,... it feels nice! etc...", but eventually would give up and apologize with a smirk on her face (showing that the apology absolutely meant nothing to her!)

there is also my best friend of many years who has a sagittarus mars...her physical advances I endure and am okay with because her sun and moon are on my DC hehe

and I had a sagittarius stalker for seven years before I finally moved to another city...he would harass even my family and friends...always found ways to find my number no matter how many times I changed it...he wasn't dangerous, but he was super annoying and intense with me...would tell me the most intense, and romantic things...I am a plutonic person myself and I get plain mad when somebody is in my face and tells me such intimate things without me having commanded them to do first!....he had a t-square in his chart with leo moon, aquarius venus, scorpio mars/pluto

and then there is the easiest relationship I ever had...he was a super romantic sag...with moon, venus, mercury, neptune, uranus, saturn, NN in capricorn! leo AC (conjunct jupiter!) and taurus mars....he's hands down the hottest, most goodlooking man I have ever met....very deep and philosophical...he just knows instinctively how to make you feel GREAT, you don't have to tell him a word!....in the beginning I kept rejecting him though, and he made public advances and I eventually agreed to go out with him trying to save myself the embarrassing situations he put me into!....but thank God that I did, because he was so sweet, loving, romantic, confident, deep....we had many nice synastry aspects though and he did tell me once that he doesn't treat everybody as nicely has he does me...everything with him was great...he asked me to marry him but I thought we were both too young..so I left him and told him and if we were meant to be, we would meet again!....we did meet again a few times after that 2-year thing, and each time he would bring up commitment, but something in me always rejects him, I don't know maybe because in our composite we have venus square uranus

my first and last girlfriend also had moon in sag (pisces sun)...I won't go into details but whenever we were together we were simply out of control!

and last but not least is my sagittarius sister...she's the least wild sagittarius I know, and it's probably her libra moon and her aquarius AC...but even she, seems to have to boundaries of appropriate/innappopriate

even now that we're both grown ups, I cannot let her see me naked or even walk up to her while I'm wearing only a bra, or even a shirt or dress showing my cleavage, because she always reaches out and cups them...when I resist she tells me that she's curious about their look and size!...I remember when we were young and I had first gotten my period...she being a little girl overheard my mom talking to me about it and later that day when she wanted something from me which I didn't give to her, or she wanted to play and I wasn't in the mood, she starting running around the neighborhood yelling out "my sister is a periooti! my sister is a periooti!" to get back at me!....she had no idea what a period was and had obviously overhead the word wrongly, but I'm sure the neighbor boys and guys knew what she meant!...I guess a couple of years later when she first got hers, she didn't find it that funny!

posted September 16, 2018 09:02 AM            

I notice a lot of things labeled "dark" about sagittarius/jupiter, is mostly because of their ever-readiness for sex, mixed with this quality they have which is rolling with things, and not getting shocked or surprised...making them sometimes wonder why they feel so numb, and as a result trying to test their own limits (sometimes this is unconscious)...they're also immune to any kind of external negativity or criticism and this works hand in hand with their I-do-whatever-I-please attitude (because they BELIEVE everything they do is OKAY!)

my sag sun sister would watch the Saw movies when she was so young...and my mom who has sun opposite jupiter would stay up very late watching violent movies...she says she regrets it now (sun in virgo opposite jupiter in pisces)

Sag ACs are different...they're extreme in their looks and behavior in one way or the other....my father does anything to please people, and he's very generous...he's had an adventurous life

this Aries sun, leo moon, sag AC friend I have has also has an extreme lifestyle...he's a professional athlete, but he also works 2 jobs...he's just WILD, and he has faced some wild situations!