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hypatia238
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posted February 20, 2020 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
High School Graduation, I feel is very obvious on this one I am a saggy riser.

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posted February 20, 2020 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My capricorn mother and father, my mother has super straight hair typical of capricorn risers or sun in capricorn, in this picture she did her hair to make it look wavy:

I look like my DAD!

She has the typical cappy nose, cappy eyes, cappy hair, sharp features, small features...

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posted February 20, 2020 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your wedding picture and the picture after that scream SAGITTARIUS!

Also your father's job does fit sun in the 10th/MC.

Congrats on solving your AC mystery!

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posted February 20, 2020 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Your wedding picture and the picture after that scream SAGITTARIUS!

Also your father's job does fit sun in the 10th/MC.

Congrats on solving your AC mystery!


Yes I agree! LOL

I feel I alter my look and then I look less Saggy! I do have Neptune right on my AC square my moon in pisces, I think that plays a role in how I can look so different depending on day or year or my mood, if I am tired ect...but those two pics I am more my natural self for sure.

My dad is "technically" a therapist but for many many years he managed his own business he inherited from his father (he was the boss) who got Alzheimer's and yes he had his own TV show for while about politics.

My mother is a force and more dominant I feel between the two with my dad have mars in libra, my IC is in aries.

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posted February 20, 2020 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Your wedding picture and the picture after that scream SAGITTARIUS!

Also your father's job does fit sun in the 10th/MC.

Congrats on solving your AC mystery!


Yes I agree! LOL

I feel I alter my look and then I look less Saggy! I do have Neptune right on my AC square my moon in pisces I think that plays a role in how I can look so different depending on day or year or my mood, if I am tired ect...but those two pics I am more my natural self for sure.

My dad is "technically" a therapist but for many many years he managed his own business he inherited from his father (he was the boss) who got Alzheimer's and yes he had his own TV show for a while about politics.

My mother is a force and more dominant I feel between the two with my dad having mars in libra, my IC is in aries.

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posted February 20, 2020 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This last picture I feel you can really see the Neptune in Sagittarius conjunct AC squaring my Moon in Pisces with my venus in LEO trine my AC, it feels very neptune in sag square moon in pisces to me with some LEO influence.

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posted February 20, 2020 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your mum is a stunner. Wow!
She looks like a movie star

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posted February 20, 2020 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank-you for sharing.

Your open mouth smile is exceptional.

It makes you look completely different.

Tough to find the correct wording, but maybe at least more stunning?

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posted February 20, 2020 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Thank-you for sharing.

Your open mouth smile is exceptional.

It makes you look completely different.

Tough to find the correct wording, but maybe at least more stunning?


Thank you so much for saying that! Thank you. People love my smile.

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posted February 20, 2020 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You look like Saggy to me, but there is definitely something earth going on.. (Tries to unsee your Virgo Sun )

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posted February 25, 2020 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi hypatia, I think you look like a Sag riser..

Also just wanted to say you’re very pretty!! Love your curly hair, if your Asc is trine your Leo Venus that would make sense

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Are we getting closer to the truth? So many opinions can he very confusing.

Perhaps we are looking at this all one sided? That the Neptune on the angle is really at the crux of it all.Whether we are speaking of Cap or Sag.

I may be echoing what Galactic said with all this.Especially when we consider the added Moon in Pisces.

The Neptune in the 1st house conj the Asc point, could be coloring your looks a lot. Neptune also aspects the 10th I think. So thats major too.

Another point I wanted to make was how Sag energy influence on the Asc tend to borrow a lot from Gemini(opposite axis).

My little nephew has Jupiter conj Asc. He is always hitting himself against one thing or another.

My guess is that the planet on the Asc does significantly influence the expression of the Asc,then the sign there alone.

Jupiter on the Asc would talk a lot with their hands. And in their enthusiasm, upset the ketchup, tip the waiters tray over or hit someone in the face/eye

Because Jupiter on the Asc would "fill up" space I'd imagine. So their energy would "spill over" & "dominate" the couch-so to speak.

I don't imagine Cap to be like this. Because they borrow from Cancer, there is something quite reticent about their demeanor.

I notice that with My Asc in Cap buddy, he talks like he is "fenced" in I.e the arms don't stray too far from the body and the expressions are very controlled.

When he sits down, it's like he ain't moving (earth).Ever.And even when enthusiastic, the expressions are still controlled and not as animated as I can get.

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posted February 25, 2020 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I see a strong Uranus influence.

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posted February 25, 2020 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by firemoon:
Hi hypatia, I think you look like a Sag riser..

Also just wanted to say you’re very pretty!! Love your curly hair, if your Asc is trine your Leo Venus that would make sense


Thank you! Also I have a lot more hair than the pics lead you to believe but I tend to ask the hair dresser to cut my hair a certain way so I have a lot less hair. All hair dressers always comment on how much hair I have. I have some pics were is more evident and don't get my wrong I feel I look better with the extra hair, something about it looks cool and powerful but is just harder to manage and it annoys me at night specially when I am sleeping having a lot of hair LOL so I have them reduce it for me.

I think having Jupiter conjunct my Uranus ruling my chart also explains why I have a lot of hair and why is curly, I could have been born with straight hair like my Capricorn mother and cancer sister but nooooooo I was born with the wild curly hair in line with my rebellious nature which I feel fits jupiter conjunct uranus in Sag lol. Then you add that Venus in leo conjunct Mars trine my AC.

Thanks for participating! Nice to see you again

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posted February 25, 2020 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Also, I see a strong Uranus influence.


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posted February 25, 2020 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireAndEarth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm inclined to say Cap. 👍

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posted February 25, 2020 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Are we getting closer to the truth? So many opinions can he very confusing.

Perhaps we are looking at this all one sided? That the Neptune on the angle is really at the crux of it all.Whether we are speaking of Cap or Sag.

I may be echoing what Galactic said with all this.Especially when we consider the added Moon in Pisces.

The Neptune in the 1st house conj the Asc point, could be coloring your looks a lot. Neptune also aspects the 10th I think. So thats major too.

Another point I wanted to make was how Sag energy influence on the Asc tend to borrow a lot from Gemini(opposite axis).

My little nephew has Jupiter conj Asc. He is always hitting himself against one thing or another.

My guess is that the planet on the Asc does significantly influence the expression of the Asc,then the sign there alone.

Jupiter on the Asc would talk a lot with their hands. And in their enthusiasm, upset the ketchup, tip the waiters tray over or hit someone in the face/eye

Because Jupiter on the Asc would "fill up" space I'd imagine. So their energy would "spill over" & "dominate" the couch-so to speak.

I don't imagine Cap to be like this. Because they borrow from Cancer, there is something quite reticent about their demeanor.

I notice that with My Asc in Cap buddy, he talks like he is "fenced" in I.e the arms don't stray too far from the body and the expressions are very controlled.

When he sits down, it's like he ain't moving (earth).Ever.And even when enthusiastic, the expressions are still controlled and not as animated as I can get.


Hey Aries23!

You mentioned early in the thread about some transits you observed I had going on that you found interesting coincided with me opening up this thread and that week that lead up to that ect...that transit gave me clarity..I was on lindaland telling myself I was cappy riser bc I wanted to be open minded and truly consider that possibility (even though my birth certificate and time of birth my mother gives me both are for saggy rising) and while I did it I noticed something felt really really really off in my gut, my gut was like NOOOOO you are NOT, this is false. It felt off and like a lie. I did analyze this possibility in depth as I am that type of person that will consider all possibilities, I have a super mutable mercury squaring mutable nodes opposing mutable moon, I can be really open minded. \

My NEPTUNE does not aspect my MC but it squares my sun and moon with Neptune on the AC at apex of a luminary t-square.

I am clumsy but also lucky and agile at the same time but I don't hit people in the face when I talk to them, sometimes I like to play punch people when I am joking around and they are making me laugh though.

I do talk with my hands but is not in obnoxious over the top way either, I do have sun in virgo after all.

My energy spills over, everyone comments on my energy at work and how positive it is ect....and my laughter and my stretches, I stretch and make really loud sounds and they think is cute...

I had an aquarius lover with cappy rising and we are super different in how we come across, his energy does not spill over like mine as I am very passionate, he is more serious and reserved and struggles with depression his whole life and hates people. People irritate me but my attitude is to love people, that is my to go to at the core of me.

My expressions are NOT controlled at all!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I mean I am very expressive, my face gives it all away even when I am sitting there trying to be quiet and say nothing, I say so much, my co-workers also like this about me....My eyes talk, my face talks even if I am not talking LOL

I am super fidgety, if I have a ring on I move it like 20 times from hand to other and switch the ring among the different fingers, I cross my legs and then go back and forth doing that in different directions, I can't stay still, I have to move around when I am sitting somehow, its annoying, specially at night in bed, is super annoyinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng, I hate it!!!!!!!!!! I can't stay still specially at night in bed, I become super fidgety, My chart ruler jupiter conjunct Uranus in Saggy fall in the 12H.

I wish I could just stay still. If I am focused doing something active it helps like typing notes but I will get up to make coffee, to go chit chat or joke or to use the bathroom.

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posted February 25, 2020 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Are we getting closer to the truth? So many opinions can he very confusing.

Perhaps we are looking at this all one sided? That the Neptune on the angle is really at the crux of it all.Whether we are speaking of Cap or Sag.

I may be echoing what Galactic said with all this.Especially when we consider the added Moon in Pisces.

The Neptune in the 1st house conj the Asc point, could be coloring your looks a lot. Neptune also aspects the 10th I think. So thats major too.

Another point I wanted to make was how Sag energy influence on the Asc tend to borrow a lot from Gemini(opposite axis).

My little nephew has Jupiter conj Asc. He is always hitting himself against one thing or another.

My guess is that the planet on the Asc does significantly influence the expression of the Asc,then the sign there alone.

Jupiter on the Asc would talk a lot with their hands. And in their enthusiasm, upset the ketchup, tip the waiters tray over or hit someone in the face/eye

Because Jupiter on the Asc would "fill up" space I'd imagine. So their energy would "spill over" & "dominate" the couch-so to speak.

I don't imagine Cap to be like this. Because they borrow from Cancer, there is something quite reticent about their demeanor.

I notice that with My Asc in Cap buddy, he talks like he is "fenced" in I.e the arms don't stray too far from the body and the expressions are very controlled.

When he sits down, it's like he ain't moving (earth).Ever.And even when enthusiastic, the expressions are still controlled and not as animated as I can get.


Hey Aries23!

You mentioned early in the thread about some transits you observed I had going on that you found interesting coincided with me opening up this thread and that week that lead up to that ect...that transit gave me clarity..I was on lindaland telling myself I was a cappy riser bc I wanted to be open minded and truly consider that possibility (even though my birth certificate and time of birth my mother gives me both are for saggy rising) and while I did that I noticed something felt really really really off in my gut, my gut was like NOOOOO you are NOT, this is false. It felt off and like a lie. I did analyze this possibility in depth as I am that type of person that will consider all possibilities, I have a super mutable mercury squaring mutable nodes opposing mutable moon, I can be really open minded.

My NEPTUNE does not aspect my MC but it squares my sun and moon with Neptune on the AC at apex of a luminary t-square.

I am clumsy but also lucky and agile at the same time but I don't hit people in the face when I talk to them, sometimes I like to play punch people when I am joking around and they are making me laugh though.

I do talk with my hands but is not in an obnoxious over the top way either, I do have sun in virgo after all.

My energy spills over, everyone comments on my energy at work and how positive it is etc....and my laughter and my stretches, I stretch and make really loud sounds and they think is cute...

I had an aquarius lover with cappy rising and we are super different in how we come across, his energy does not spill over like mine as I am very passionate, he is more serious and reserved and struggles with depression his whole life and hates people. People irritate me but my attitude is to love people, that is my to go to at the core of me. His affect is quiet and more restricted, mine is free and open.

My expressions are NOT controlled at all!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I mean I am very expressive, my face gives it all away even when I am sitting there trying to be quiet and say nothing, I say so much, my co-workers also like this about me....My eyes talk, my face talks even if I am not talking LOL

I am super fidgety, if I have a ring on I move it like 20 times from one hand to other and switch the ring among the different fingers, I cross my legs and then go back and forth doing that in different directions, I can't stay still, I have to move around when I am sitting somehow, its annoying, specially at night in bed, is super annoyinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng, I hate it!!!!!!!!!! I can't stay still specially at night in bed, I become super fidgety, My chart ruler jupiter conjunct Uranus in Saggy fall in the 12H.

I wish I could just stay still. If I am focused doing something active it helps like typing notes but I will get up to make coffee, to go chit chat or joke or to use the bathroom.

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posted February 25, 2020 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually have a YOGA ball in my office for the sole purpose of bouncing around on it like a big kid to take breaks from sitting around too much in the winter at work. I was just bouncing around on it right now. The other half of the year I go on multiple walks throughout the day. I do walk fast too, not a slow walker.

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posted February 25, 2020 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m clumsy, too, but have quick reflexes (thank goodness). You’ve just reminded me that I was really fidgety as a kid, but I’m not as an adult. I mean, I’ll fiddle with my hair, and my pets know “excuse me” because there are times when I just need to get up, I can be antsy, but not as much as I was.

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posted February 25, 2020 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I’m clumsy, too, but have quick reflexes (thank goodness). You’ve just reminded me that I was really fidgety as a kid, but I’m not as an adult. I mean, I’ll fiddle with my hair, and my pets know “excuse me” because there are times when I just need to get up, I can be antsy, but not as much as I was.

Yes I am clumsy with quick reflexes too, its an interesting phenomenon LOL but is true.

You have a gemini stellium with ARIES placement, it makes sense you are antsy.

I am fidgety more so at night when falling sleep but definitely do the things I mentioned, when I am sitting still I am typing so I am been active moving my fingers...

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posted March 03, 2020 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ULT12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I’m clumsy, too, but have quick reflexes (thank goodness). You’ve just reminded me that I was really fidgety as a kid, but I’m not as an adult. I mean, I’ll fiddle with my hair, and my pets know “excuse me” because there are times when I just need to get up, I can be antsy, but not as much as I was.

Don't you have Uranus-1?

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I feel like you definitely look like a Sag rising. You don't look strict or serious like a lot of Cap risings I know of seem. Plus your face shape and general vibe (Based on the pic) come of more Sag/Jupiter. Like you would be more outgoing and friendly.

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
I feel like you definitely look like a Sag rising. You don't look strict or serious like a lot of Cap risings I know of seem. Plus your face shape and general vibe (Based on the pic) come of more Sag/Jupiter. Like you would be more outgoing and friendly.

Keep in mind, whether late Sag or early Cap Asc, she also has Neptune conjunct her Asc.

Planetary energies are far stronger than Sign, and Neptune is a much "softer", more Yin, more spiritual, more psychic energy than Cap. Also, it being in Sag, brings over more Sag to the equation as well if her Asc is early Cap.

It's not a case of a middle of Sag Rising vs middle of Cap Rising, with no Planetary energy intervening. Such a case, would be much more stark, more contrasted, more clear cut.

The actual case in question is far more subtle, relative, and complex.

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