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ULT12
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posted April 11, 2020 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ULT12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw I know I person with Uranus-opp-ASC who is very thin. It's not a lack-of-eating kind of thin, they just have a really thin+ frame (ASC/H1 = the body?)

So even though Sag is described as "big /+ plump", perhaps the exact conj your ASCRuler has to it makes the influence of Uranus really strong.

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hypatia238
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posted April 11, 2020 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ULT12:
btw I know I person with Uranus-opp-ASC who is very thin. It's not a lack-of-eating kind of thin, they just have a really thin+ frame (ASC/H1 = the body?)

So even though Sag is described as "big /+ plump", perhaps the exact conj your ASCRuler has to it makes the influence of Uranus really strong.


My husband has Mars conjunct Uranus opposite his AC but he is NOT slim, I need to seriously consider his time of birth may be off to some extent.

However, I love your theory bc I that is also my theory, I feel when Uranus aspects something it makes it behave the opposite of what is typical.

Like the intern in my office she has saggy rising like me and I feel we are soo similar but her Jupiter falls in the 1H and mine falls in the 12H and conjuncts Uranus.

She is soooooo beautiful but she is more voluptuous her body type, she is wide, expanded but gorgeous, she rocks that body type. I sort have a little crush on her, she is a scorpio with venus in libra like my ex and I have a weakness for that combo apparently regardless of sex, hahahaha

Anyways I digress...

I feel bc her jupiter falls in the 1H and mine in the 12H we have a lot of similarities in our thinking since we both have Jupiter in Saggy ruling our chart and is lovely how we are so similar but yes there is definitely some key differences in our body type...

The 12H hides and Uranus can make my jupiter in saggy manifest physically in an unexpected way..She has it in the 1H and no Uranus on her jupiter..Wait come to think of it she has her moon in gemini and her moon could be opposing her Ascendant or jupiter in the 1H so this would make her body more wide too like someone who is meant to have some babies in a sense.

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posted April 11, 2020 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG my husband does not have URANUS/MARS on this DC, he has it on his 6H as that would fit, I feel he REBELS against dieting and working out, if it was just mars on this 6H he would be into fitness and health but bc Uranus conjuncts it he REBELS which is mind blowing to me. Like he wont even drink water, it has to be carbonated, like COME ON!

IDK this would mean he has GEMINI rising which also fits bc he talks and talks and talks but he is soooo stubborn that Taurus rising fits BUT he has Mercury in scorpio conjunct EROS so that would make him stubborn and I swear he can be more virgo than me with mercury in scorpio in the 6th, been super rigid about were things go ect..like I come home from the groceries and just put stuff away, NOT him, he has categories and you need to follow "his" system or he gets upset. And since I have MOON in pisces with chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus in the 12th, I am like "F*ck your system" and a DON'T tell me what to do! attitude. I put things were they fit and have a whatever works approach.

Yet he hoards (moon in the 2H) and is okay for him to be messy if its about one of the trillion projects he has started to work on and has not finished and that is when the virgo in me kicks in and wants him to put all his crap away.

Marriage is going to be the death of me. Why do we do this to ourselves? and why do we love people we hate?











Sorry for venting on you about this! Hopefully my venting was funny and amusing at least.

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posted April 11, 2020 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMGGGGGGGGG he definitely has GEMINI rising, with gemini rising he has Taurus/Scorpio intercepted in the 12H/6H.

This fits him toooooooo well, to the tea:

"Taurus-Scorpio Intercepted: These are signs of completion. Aries and Libra (signs of action) would appear on the house cusps, showing that it is easy for these people to start things. When it comes to finishing, though, forget it.

Taurus has to do with what a person values as well as the desire to accumulate what is valued. Scorpio is more complicated. It is the sign of shared values, values we share with those around us. But it is also the sign of elimination. When our possessions and values are no longer useful, Scorpio (the sign of death and rebirth) either fixes or gets rid of them.

When these signs are intercepted, the natural polarity is broken. In the house with Taurus intercepted, we may constantly accumulate and seldom eliminate. Since Aries is the sign that begins the house, there is usually no trouble starting things. But, they are very difficult to finish. Example: if Taurus is intercepted in the 5th house (hobbies, sports, games, children, and, of course, romance) it could indicate someone who is always starting hobbies or taking up a new sport which they quickly drop. Their closet is full of all the equipment they bought, which they cannot bring themselves to throw away. They could also be very good at starting romances, but be unable to sustain relationships. They probably do a lot of one-night stands. When it comes to children, they can be good at bringing them into the world, but soon loose interest in taking care of them. The children themselves (especially the first child) may also develop the habit of starting and not completing. Sometimes, the first child will be forced into the role of “parent”, made to assume parental responsibilities....."

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posted April 11, 2020 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ULT12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your journeying re: your husband was humorous and funny, so no worries. So you two have an ASC-DSC match? It may seem simple and crude, but it's shocking how many times I've noticed with people who get together significantly have really no Planet connections so you're like "why did they get/are they together???" have an ASC-DSC Sign match.
(Planet compatibility adds deeper or 'actual' compatibility/attraction, but sometimes the ASC-DSC Sign match is enough to compel a relationship.)

Anyhow, mind posting your husband's chart (Tau and Gem ASC ones)? I love physical correlations to Astrology, so to hear you think he's a Gem ASC, when Gem is described as at most lean, is intriguing.

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Full disclosure: It occurred to me after posting that the Uranus-opp person is also the Venus Nakshatra ASC person mentioned before, and they have Venus-conj-Saturn (Saturn=thinness/boneyness ... the person is also rather short, and Saturn is said to do this). More evidence of ASC Nakshatra Rulers affecting stuff? /patterns

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posted April 11, 2020 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ULT12:
Your journeying re: your husband was humorous and funny, so no worries. So you two have an ASC-DSC match? It may seem simple and crude, but it's shocking how many times I've noticed with people who get together significantly have really no Planet connections so you're like "why did they get/are they together???" have an ASC-DSC Sign match.
(Planet compatibility adds deeper or 'actual' compatibility/attraction, but sometimes the ASC-DSC Sign match is enough to compel a relationship.)

Anyhow, mind posting your husband's chart (Tau and Gem ASC ones)? I love physical correlations to Astrology, so to hear you think he's a Gem ASC, when Gem is described as at most lean, is intriguing.


Is true I associate Gemini with LEAN but it depends.

Like I have two clients with gemini rising WHO are not lean at all. One has Mercury in Taurus ruling her chart so that explains it but the other has Mercury in ARIES..

The guy with gemini rising who has Mercury in ARIES is a FOODY and his Chart ruler mercury TRINES his MOON, this is the same thing with my husband, if he has mercury ruling his chart it trines his MOON in Cancer in the 2H hence why he is not thin, then you add that Mars conjunct Uranus are in his 6H making him rebel against dieting and exercising and we have someone prone to weight gain.

You can argue that chart Ruler Venus squaring Mars conjunct Uranus would result in someone thin so his chart ruler been mercury trine moon in the 2H fits more him not been thin.

As for me I am still considering having saggy at 26d4, I am still exploring this option.

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posted April 11, 2020 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, one of my best friends from the past has gemini rising...

Her Mercury is in libra conjunct MOON but also conjunct SATURN...

She is slim but she does binge eat and binge drinks! but is like the saturn maybe keeps her binge eating in check so she doesn't end up gaining weight, I think she has mentioned struggling with an eating disorder though.

She has has mars conjunct Uranus in the 6H but her mars cojunct uranus are not intercepted and she has SUN in VIRGO, she tries to be healthy and to exercise. Not as rebellious as my husband but my husband has Scorpio intercepted so there are issues with control and then Uranus is there too so he rebels to feel in control of 6H related matters.

My friend has issues with alcoholism, Neptune opposes her AC and she see herself as very emotional, she also has verbal diarrhea IMO fitting of moon conjunct chart ruler Mercury in Social LIBRA.

She drinks bc she feels lonely, fitting of moon conjunct chart ruler mercury in Libra with Neptune opposite her AC but even though she sees herself as very emotional I always felt her emotions felt very airy and superficial to me and lacked depth which could be because of the libra and mercury influence on her moon.

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posted April 11, 2020 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know I think you are right that my AC is in Saggy at 26 degrees, the need to balance out my Pisces/Virgo axis can totally be explained with Southnode in saggy in the 12H and Northnode in Gemini in the 6H and Mercury in virgo rx opposite Moon in Pisces squaring my nodes and mercury ruling my northnode, I don't think I have a pisces/virgo interception.

Also my isolation/outcast karma can be explained with Chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus in the 12H and Pluto ruling my 11H and it conjuncting Saturn. My Egyptian past life of having power can also be explained with Pluto ruling my 11H but falling in the 10H.

Also, I have PLUTO UNDECILE Jupiter and Pluto Septile SOUTHNODE in Sagittarius in the 12H which can explain why I feel there might a past life were I was involved in witch craft.

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posted April 12, 2020 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ULT12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^

/strokes nonexistent beard

How do you feel about Juno-4? Or do you interpret it as Juno-5 since it's so close?

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posted April 12, 2020 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ULT12:
^

/strokes nonexistent beard

How do you feel about Juno-4? Or do you interpret it as Juno-5 since it's so close?


"Juno in the 4th House: This person can be married to their home. Juno in the 4th house can also indicate a need for a partner who is attached to the domestic environment. Another possibility is that you become more of a domestic type after marriage.

Juno in the 5th House: Marriage tends to improve creativity with this placement. The partner would also tend to be a creative person, or good with children, sports, games, and hobbies. If afflicted, watch out. They may act like a child themselves and want to play all the time instead of work."

I mean my husband is very creative and has a lot of hobbies, always giving birth to a new idea and his creativity makes him very resourceful, he went to the art institute of Chicago and he is an artist. I feel he uses his creativity for anything he does, I always felt he has a high fluid intelligence. He always has multiple hobbies or projects he is working on but then won't finish the projects which I feel is in part a consequence of his creative nature overflowing too much and in part because his venus is intercepted in the 12th house.

My JUNO Is afflicted as it opposes Saturn and my Saturn conjuncts PLUTO so in some ways he never grew up and can be an "adult child," like him not drinking normal water and just drinking carbonated water and not been able to be financially independent fully on his own. Having difficult with daily functioning and holding unto conventional jobs due to scorpio intercepted in the 6H, the solution is for him to have his own business and be his own boss; his venus in LEO is in the 4H and rules his intercepted Taurus, MC in Aquarius.

So JUNO conjunct 5H exact fits me.

Yet he is married to his house and loves been at home and works from home and he has MOON in cancer in the 2H so JUNO in Taurus in the 4H you can say fits too. He cooks for me daily.

Maybe having JUNO right in the 5H cusp means both manifest in my life.

He has JUNO in VIRGO conjunct JUPITER in VIRGO in the 5H on my SUN. Jupiter rules my chart, I have SUN in virgo and Venus conjunct Mars in LEO. I am not an artist but am expressive, playful, warm, romantic, passionate and love to dance and sign.

Also we have run two business together, so we are prone to starting businesses together but business we can conduct from home.

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posted April 14, 2020 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ULT12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This might be my last communication with the internet. I might be imprisoned. If so, now you know. If not, I will edit/delete this post.

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posted April 14, 2020 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What?!!!!!!! I am so sorry to hear that!

I hope you don't, get a good lawyer.

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posted April 20, 2020 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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