posted September 28, 2009 10:51 PM         

Edit: Lara, why dont you first try to enchance understanding for your ex-husbands wrong and disturbing behaviour and have some compassion for him before teaching us people that "Compassion is universal and have no boundaries"?

A lack of healthy boundaries can lead to our compassion being blown away.

BTW, I, too, think that neither 'mob mentality' nor witch hunting is shown here.

posted September 28, 2009 10:58 PM         

Way to state the obvious, guys. Brav-OH.

posted September 28, 2009 11:08 PM         

What a worm.

Actually, fyi i have no resentment toward my ex anymore and it has nothing to do with this case!

posted September 28, 2009 11:14 PM         

I agree MVM, this is exactly what witch hunts are about.

Geez, i mean this is a thread about a MAN. It's not even about the rape victim and yet everyone is bringing their own personal "poor me" cry wolf, bitterness, anger and unresolved issues into it.

It's laughable lol

I know i'm going to get mud thrown at me for this and i don't care. Life is about living in the PRESENT not attacking and blaming everyone else for your PAST.

Frigging witches! It's just ridiculous. How do you guys all survive in the adult world when you can't get your sh1t together?

posted September 28, 2009 11:24 PM         

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he has a house in switzerland and could have been arrested any time since then, the swiss minister of justice argues that nobody is above the law, fair enough, but then why wait so long when he's been in the country before?

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This is what i was saying in the original thread. He has been back and forth from CH for years so why now?

posted September 28, 2009 11:35 PM         

Now for the name calling, I give you 10 minutes to edit your improper wording.

LOL, Lara, you're incorrigible! (incurably bad)

posted September 28, 2009 11:43 PM         

You have absolutely no right to get personal on a forum!

posted September 28, 2009 11:48 PM         

I don't need to feel secure or sure of myself because i am totally confident and l love myself 100%.

posted September 29, 2009 12:00 AM         

If you dont edit, then I think a mod should take care of this.

posted September 29, 2009 02:32 AM         

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how do you think he should pay?

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400 years ago he would have been made to parade through the streets in penitent's clothing, and pay a large fine to charity.

What we will get here as justice is lengthy legal wrangles and lawyers with full pockets. Maybe the old man will spend a bit of time locked away somewhere.

Whether we feel his behaviour to be questionable, criminal or forgiveable, is any real improvement being made to society in the way he is being brought to account?

Looking through this thread I see something I don't want to be engaged in. It's not a very good sign. Is our community being improved by this discussion? It's an emotive issue but even so.

I know that every time I switch on the news I am going to hear endless media analysis as journalist dive on easy pickings. It saves them investigating why pensioners can't afford to put on their heating, the prohibitive cost of childcare for working mothers, or anything that will improve the lives of women.

posted September 29, 2009 05:11 AM         

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Would my mother or father let me go? LOL no way.

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I feel like some of the apologists that trying to defend Polanski are only making it all worse. Like Whoopi Goldberg on The View. Man, she ****** me off big time... She actually implied that because the girl was under the influence of -ya know- alcohol and drugs that HE provided her with and her mom apparently knew about it -ya know, because the government shouldn't protect minors from having ignorant parents- this whole situation was somehow ok.

There are no gray areas here, now matter how you spin it, people.

Unfortunately, Polanski is a celebrity and an acclaimed director and he's getting the celebrity/artist treatment. If he's let go because of his "artistic integrity", what kind of precedence will this set though? A shi__y one, that's what.
An example must be set and shown that even celebrities cannot avoid justice. Real great pity that the US justice system certainly don't show that much of determination and for that long, on the average-joe cases.
Noone should be above the law. Period.

PS: I'd like to mention once more that Polanski did not serve jail time.
He was held for psychiatric evaluation in accordance with the plea agreement he accepted. The information from the psych evaluation would be as part of his sentencing. That was never supposed to be his only sentence.
I say we stop with that cr@p now.

PS2: Ah France France France... centuries of humanism and The Enlightement and the French Revolution and the end of most monarchies in Europe, and all these faux-intellectual morons think that justice can still be justice if it's freaking selective..?
That you have the right to be above the law if you just belong to a certain elite art community?
I'm ashamed.

PS3: Also noone's saying that the judge was not a douche that tried to gain publicity from this case. That doesn't make the case any less serious though.

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Edit: Lara, why dont you first try to enchance understanding for your ex-husbands wrong and disturbing behaviour and have some compassion for him before teaching us people that "Compassion is universal and have no boundaries"?

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posted September 29, 2009 05:34 AM         

edit: martin scorcese david lynch and woody allen signed to see him released.

posted September 29, 2009 05:38 AM         

but i disagree wit your conclusions

posted September 29, 2009 07:08 AM         

no on is defending a paedo! I love the way you have carefully avoided answering the point made that his mother told the agency the girl was EIGHTEEN!!!

posted September 29, 2009 07:33 AM         

And if me believing all pedophiles like Roman are the scum of the earth makes me a witch hunter/beacon of morals then I apologize, but then again...its not like the *had* to prey on innocents now did they?

But maybe this answer will satisfy you: justice will be done when he's given the same punishment under this judicial system as the 30530485 'people' just like him that aren't critically aclaimed and don't have loads and loads of resources.

But then again, maybe it won't. Because there is this re-occuring trend around here where if you don't agree with the consensus of the 'in crowd' then you're suddenly narrowminded, overly moralistic, and self righteous. That might explain why I was attacked for my opinion in the first place, and why (again) I rarely ever post here anymore.

posted September 29, 2009 07:43 AM         

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no on is defending a paedo! I love the way you have carefully avoided answering the point made that his mother told the agency the girl was EIGHTEEN!!!

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posted September 29, 2009 07:47 AM         

She was with him at night in a strange house and she voluntarily drank champagne with him? Look, i'm on the side of the minor but come one... this is like Mike Tyson all over again where the girl was so stupid that she went to his hotel room alone, got drunk with him and even took out her tampon.!

posted September 29, 2009 04:54 PM         

CHOC - mob mentality is when people reading the news and gossiping about what someone else said someone did, feel qualified to declare innocence or guilt and demand punishment. and that is what has been going on here.

the article lucia posted wants him brought to justice and even so has enough OBJECTIVITY to admit that he has NEVER been accused of anything like this since....the fact that he is attracted to young women is NOT A CRIME!

posted September 29, 2009 05:44 PM         

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The funny thing is that no one is saying what kind of punishment he deserves here, how do you think he should pay?

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I'd vote for him funding an arts academy and/or film program that provides training, specifically in film, for young women who have suffered abuse. That would give victims a way of expressing and empowering themselves, and possibly even launch some future film-makers who otherwise wouldn't have had the resources to get started.

But it's not up to me. It's up to the State of California, and that's if he even gets extradited. That's probably why there aren't many posts on how he should be punished. At this point, there may or may not be an extradition, there may or may not be any official sentencing, and he may or may not face the additional charges for fleeing from the original sentencing.

posted September 29, 2009 06:42 PM         

I wonder if the Judge and his lawyer came to some form of agreement where he would pay off the girl (whether guilty or not) to save his career and then they agreed he would flee.

I find it disturbing today to see a photo of the victim at the premiere of the film about his life LOL!!

I also find it disturbing that the Swiss authorities chose NOW to arrest him, when he has been in and out of Switzerland for decades on a regular basis.

posted September 29, 2009 07:17 PM         

...........Which again brings back me to the point of this tedious thread.... sigh. I just keep seeing posters here being very black and white on the issue, saying if some of us are not jumping on the bandwagon and charging forward with pitchforks then we are supporters of a pedophile, or are stuck in another century, or WHATEVER. It's like when a person questions how good a job their president of their country is doing, and others call them unpatriotic and that they hate their country.

It's completely hysterical, and it's also sad, because I haven't seen a single person condoning bad behavior on here. Just because we're interested in the details and are wondering how the issue should be dealt with doesn't mean we have no barometer for right/wrong.

And I resent the implications some posters have made, about how there's a lack of understanding, if a woman's had to deal with sexual assault herself, then she would be all for this witch hunt.
Oh. So. Wrong.
How dare anyone presume what I've been through, or what I haven't been through, or any other poster for that matter?
My own experiences of being sexually molested as a child, a pre-teen, and a young woman do not figure into this story because, well, frankly, that's not the damn point.