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Glaucus
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posted September 27, 2009 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Swiss arrest Polanski on US request in sex case

ZURICH – Director Roman Polanski was arrested by Swiss police as he flew in for the Zurich Film Festival and faces possible extradition to the United States for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl, authorities said Sunday.

Polanski was scheduled to receive an honorary award at the festival when he was apprehended Saturday at the airport, the Swiss Justice Ministry said in a statement. It said U.S. authorities have sought the arrest of the 76-year-old director around the world since 2005.

"There was a valid arrest request and we knew when he was coming," ministry spokesman Guido Balmer told The Associated Press. "That's why he was taken into custody."

Balmer said the U.S. would now have to make a formal extradition request.

Polanski fled the U.S. in 1978, a year after pleading guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with the underage girl. The director of such classic films as "Chinatown" and "Rosemary's Baby" has asked a U.S. appeals court in California to overturn a judges' refusal to throw out his case. He claims misconduct by the now-deceased judge who had arranged a plea bargain and then reneged on it.

The Swiss statement said Polanski was in "provisional detention for extradition," but added he would not be transferred to U.S. authorities until all proceedings are completed. Polanski can contest his detention and any extradition decision in the Swiss courts, it said.

Polanski has lived for the past three decades in France, where his career has continued to flourish, and he received a directing Oscar in absentia for the 2002 movie "The Pianist."

Polanski has not been extradited from France because his crime reportedly was not covered under treaties between the United States and France.

In Paris, Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand said he was "dumbfounded" by Polanski's arrest, adding that he "strongly regrets that a new ordeal is being inflicted on someone who has already experienced so many of them."

Those comments referred to the fact that Polanski, a native of France who was taken to Poland by his parents, escaped Krakow's Jewish ghetto as a child and lived off the charity of strangers. His mother died at the Auschwitz Nazi death camp.

Mitterrand's ministry said Sunday that he was in contact with French President Nicolas Sarkozy "who is following the case with great attention and shares the minister's hope that the situation can be quickly resolved."

Polanski worked his way into filmmaking in Poland, gaining an Oscar nomination for best foreign-language film in 1964 for his "Knife in the Water." Offered entry to Hollywood, he directed the classic "Rosemary's Baby" in 1968.

But his life was shattered again in 1969 when his wife, actress Sharon Tate, and four other people were gruesomely murdered by followers of Charles Manson. She was eight months pregnant.

He went on to make another American classic, "Chinatown," released in 1974.

In 1977, he was accused of raping the teenager while photographing her during a modeling session. The girl said Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude pill at Jack Nicholson's house while the actor was away. She said that, despite her protests, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy on her.

Polanski was allowed to plead guilty to one of six charges, unlawful sexual intercourse, and was sent to prison for 42 days of evaluation.

Lawyers agreed that would be his full sentence, but the judge tried to renege on the plea bargain. Aware the judge would sentence him to more prison time and require his voluntary deportation, Polanski fled to France.

The victim, Samantha Geimer, who long ago identified herself publicly, has joined in Polanski's bid for dismissal, saying she wants the case to be over. She sued Polanski and reached an undisclosed settlement.

Zurich Film Festival organizers said Polanski's detention had caused "shock and dismay," but said they would go ahead with Sunday's planned retrospective of the director's work.

The Swiss Directors Association sharply criticized authorities for what it deemed "not only a grotesque farce of justice, but also an immense cultural scandal."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/ap_on_en_mo/eu_switzerland_polanski

I looked at his chart with the whole sign house system which is the house system that I prefer to use now.


Transiting Saturn is in 26'12 Virgo applying conjunction to his 1st/8th house ruler Venus in 26'14 Virgo in 12th and in separating conjunction to his Jupiter in 25'16 Virgo in 12th indicates karma of his sexual crime catching up to him with his freedom restricted.
Transiting Makemake in 25'31 Virgo conjunct his Venus-Jupiter conjunction in 12th.
Makemake is a transneptunian object,and so it indicates a major time of intensified evolutionary experiences/lessons.

He has retrograde Saturn in 12'06 Aquarius in 5th, and that can indicate karma lessons involving children.

Transiting Varuna in 21'47 Cancer conjunct his Moon in 22'27 Cancer 10th and Pluto in 23'51 Cancer in 10th indicates emotional upheaval that involves his career,reputation due to his being brought to justice.

Varuna and Pluto are transneptunian objects, and so a major time of intensified evolutionary experiences/lessons.

but yeah,

do the crime,
and Saturn makes you do the time!

There is no way to escaping Saturn nor the transneptunians.


Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted September 27, 2009 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
he is 76 years old! what the h*ll do they expect to do to him now? he has spent years in exile, the girl - now middleaged woman - wants it forgiven, sorry but this is ridiculous.

saturn in 12th certainly can take away anything that buffers up your ego, and polanski is just about to be honoured with a retrospective exhibition of his work. no doubt he is egotistical, but personally i think this is a waste of taxpayer money and a perversion of justice. there are a great many people still in the act of perpetrating misdeeds we would do better to punish than someone whose crime is over 30 years in the past.

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posted September 27, 2009 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hear hear Katatonic.

I think it's ridiculous. So typical of Swiss and US authorities.

pffffffffffffttt

I love Polanski. The guy has been to hell and back. They should free him and allow him to live his life. He has suffered enough... he has been suffering since it happened. A friend of mine had a private interview with him 10 years ago (he never does interviews) and she said that he was guilt-ridden about it.

So leave him ALONE!

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Benedict Moon*
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posted September 27, 2009 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
As far as I'm concerned....its about f--king time. It always irritated me that because of his resources he was able to escape justice for so long.

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posted September 27, 2009 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
BM - do you know how many people escape justice just by fleeing?

It was the 70's ffs!!! Do you remember the 70's?

Everyone fled everything! lol

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posted September 27, 2009 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
wants it forgiven

More like forgotten, since it has been so long and noone ever did anything about it.

That doesn't make it any less of a crime though.

Rape & pedophilia are serious offences and therefore he must finally face the consequences of his actions, 76 years old or not.

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posted September 27, 2009 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
The woman took a settlement off of him.

Isn't that called blood money? lol

I'm sorry but to take money off your rapist to me is just as karmically incorrect as to be raped.

There should be a limit on how long after a crime one can be re-charged. He served time and the case was closed!

Polanski has been in and out of CH for years now so why suddenly now arrest him?

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posted September 27, 2009 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
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BM - do you know how many people escape justice just by fleeing?
It was the 70's ffs!!! Do you remember the 70's?

Everyone fled everything! lol



Yeah, and all those people should be caught too. I wasn't even alive for the 70's but a time period difference doesn't change the fact that he was a pedophile who should've been brought to justice when they had the chance.

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posted September 27, 2009 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Well they ****** up and he wasn't... so they blew it.

Game over. Case dismissed.

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posted September 27, 2009 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Well not so much 'game over' if they're extraditing him now, eh?

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posted September 27, 2009 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I think he will get off. The film business will be in uproar.

He's served time and the victim is over it. I think it's incredulous of the US justice system but then nothing surprises me about any Justice system anymore!

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posted September 27, 2009 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message
The victim is not over it, those kind of things follow you through life. She just gave up. Especially when some people are willing to let this pass just because he's ******* Roman Polanski. He's still a pedo, no matter what.
Served his time? Where and how? By living the good life in Europe?

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WITNESS STATEMENT:

ANGELICA HOUSTON
Polanski was accused of plying a 13-year-old girl with champagne and a sliver of a quaalude tablet and performing various sex acts, including intercourse, with her during a photo shoot at actor Jack Nicholson's house. He was 43 at the time.

Nicholson was not at home, but his girlfriend at the time, actress Anjelica Huston, was.

According to a probation report contained in the filing, Huston described the victim as "sullen."

"She appeared to be one of those kind of little chicks between -- could be any age up to 25. She did not look like a 13-year-old scared little thing," Huston said.

She added that Polanski did not strike her as the type of man who would force himself on a young girl.

"I don't think he's a bad man," she said in the report. "I think he's an unhappy man."

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posted September 27, 2009 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message
Bollocks.
It's statutory rape, no matter how you spin it.

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posted September 27, 2009 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
He served time in the US. The case was then dismissed back in the 70's.

Totally ridiculous.

Of course she is over it... several million $'s over it!!
It made her life. Look at it unemotionally, will ya.

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posted September 27, 2009 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Anyway, his wife was so brutally murdered only 5 years before this case.

It's a one off case. He is not a paedophile. He is a man who ****** up because his wife and unborn childs murder destroyed him.

Have you no compassion guys? Can you only point and say "he's a ******* paedo - burn him at the stake"

pfffffft

disgusting.

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my first time was "statutory rape", he was 18 and i was 15. so what? it was my idea!

how can you be raped by a statute? the way polanski was, he paid damages and had to leave the country where his profession would be best served. 30 years in exile, though some might say that was a blessing in disguise...a plea deal was made and then the judge decided to renege on it? sorry folks, either play the game or get out of the court!

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posted September 27, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
i just heard on a french radio that sarko'facho, and mitterand (minister of culture and nephew of president mitterand) support him.

kouchner (minister of foreign affairs) had an interview with the swiss minister; they want to play on the time that has passed since then and argue that it should be over;

their objective is to persuade switzerland to free him

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posted September 27, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhh so the underage girl was like... asking for it?
I don't remember being drugged, raped and sodomized to be considered considered "giving consent"... and I don't give a damn if his wife was murdered. He was a jackass to Sharon as well, even during her pregnancy.
Compassion? He's had plenty of compassion in his life.
He's a pedo and a cheater.

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posted September 27, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I can`t judge.
I wasn`t there.

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posted September 27, 2009 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I agree Katatonic and i'm truly sorry for your experience.

The USA won't get him... anyway, he's been in and out a few times since he left

He won't be extradited - you are correct - too much time and the Justice system closed the case so he can't really under law, be re-charged!

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posted September 27, 2009 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Choc - i take it you are friends with his family!

lol he's not a jackass. He's a highly intelligent, considered human being.

DD - hehe
hope you feel even better today! I feel so much better - Mercury is almost over too! yipee!

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posted September 27, 2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
DD is right of course. none of us really knows. however plenty of kids VOLUNTARILY start drinking AND taking drugs at 13 and even younger.

the last girl i knew who cried "statutory rape" was in the middle of her parents' divorce and looking for attention - and revenge because the object of her affection had moved on to someone else...her parents got back together, she admitted lying, but too late to save the guy from INS detention and deportation...

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posted September 27, 2009 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message
18 and 15 are totally different from 13 and 44.

Lara, you need to do some research on Sharon Tate. He was truly a jackass to her.

Moreover, I never knew that victims dictated what happened to the perpetrator when he skipped out right before sentencing..

Furthermore, now that I think about it, she never said she forgave him. She said he should return to the States so they can finish what began 30 years ago. Big difference.

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posted September 27, 2009 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Stockholm syndrome is such a case.

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