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Topic: Swiss arrest Polanski on US request in sex case
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Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 564 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 12:20 PM
So because he's such a huge producer and it'll ruin his career (poor guy), I guess he's above the law and therefore the authorities should overlook the fact that he is a ******* rapist/pedophile. Well I guess we know really knows the true victims here. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 12:23 PM
I checked the transits when he fled the USA on February 1, 1978. I believe that's highly relevant. His escaping justice and now he's brought to justice. transiting retrograde Saturn in 28'18 leo conjunct his south lunar node in 28'35 leo in 11th. That seemed like a karmic time. A time that he was restricted too. He was in prison for 42 days. That was during that transit. transiting retrograde Pluto in 16'38 libra conjunct his ascendant in 15'22 Libra in 1st indicate his life being transformed and also change of environment. transiting Sun conjunct his retrograde Saturn in 5th highlights the karmic issues involving children transiting Jupiter in 26'39 Gemini in 9th square his Venus in 26'14 virgo in 12th and his jupiter 25'16 Virgo in 12th indicates a time of expansion,long distance travel,and freeing himself. now he gets arrested with transiting Saturn conjunct the Venus-Jupiter in 12th transiting jupiter square his Venus-Jupiter in 12th - He was lucky, he got away transiting Saturn conjunct his Venus-Jupiter brings him back Transiting retrograde Varuna was in 9'33 Geminig square to his Neptune in 9'21 Virgo in 12th. That indicate justice that involved prison. He was in prison during that transit. Transiting Ixion was in 12'38 Scorpio square his retrograde Saturn in Aquarius in 5th, and this could indicate sexual karmic transit involving children. His natal Ixion is in 28'23 Virgo conjunct his Venus which rules his 1st house (self) and 8th house (sex). Transiting Quaoar in 11'10 Scorpio was squaring his retrograde Saturn in Aquarius in 5th too. transneptunian transits indicate evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences. any ways......it seems that you can be lucky and get away with Jupiter transits, even hard Jupiter transits but you can end up paying your dues during hard Saturn transits....even it's over 30 years ago.
Raymond
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Choc Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 12:24 PM
He has also admitted to having sex with underage schoolgirls in his own biography. He's a genius though! And he has suffered enough! And he was drugged! The idiot pled guilty and then fled the country, so what people also don't get is that 1. he admitted his guilt and 2. decided he could **** with the court system.
Charlie Manson also had a seriously hard life. Show him some compassion too.
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 12:52 PM
I checked the transits on March 10, 1977 when he molested the 13 year old girlTransiting Venus-South Lunar Node conjunction was in his 7th house in opposition to his Mars in 1st house conjuncted by transiting North Lunar Node can indicate a karmic sexual transit. Transiting Venus-South Lunar Node was conjunct his Pluto in 10th. a time of lust that could be costly for him and effect his reputation. Transiting Mars in 5th oppose Sun in 11th could indicate a time of violence,passion,aggression involving children
Transiting Jupiter in Taurus in his 8th trine 1st/8th house ruler Venus-Jupiter in 12th seems good for getting what he wants when it comes to sex. There was an exaction conjunction of retrograde Uranus and retrograde Ixion in 11'31 Scorpio in his 2nd house square his retrograde Saturn in 12'06 Aquarius in 5th. This seems like the unpredictable,sudden sex karmic time involving children. Transiting Varuna was in 8'13 Gemini in his 9th square his Neptune in 9'21 Virgo in 12th. This can indicate a time where he could be involved conflicted in the law and potential prison time.
Transiting Uranus was semisquare his 1st/8th house ruler Venus with 16 minutes of arc applying, and that can unpredictable events involving sex,intimacy.
Transiting Saturn was semisquare his Jupiter in 12th with 31 minutes of arc applying. This could indicate a time of making poor judgment that he will end up paying dearly for. Transiting Saturn was semisquare his Venus in 12th with 26 minutes of arc separating. so Transiting Saturn was semisquare the Venus-Jupiter conjunction, and so also semisquaring the Venus/Jupiter midpoint. poor judgment involving intimacy that could lead to him paying dearly. Transiting Uranus-Saturn was in an 8th harmonic transit to his Venus-Jupiter actually. Raymond
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Shankara Knowflake Posts: 218 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 02:01 PM
Good. I don't think it's too late for him to pay for his crimes at all. It's not like this is a new charge, 30 years after the fact. He was charged at the time and decided to run. If he didn't want to serve time at age 76 he should have served time at age 44. No doubt he would have been out already if he had. Otherwise, the lesson is pretty much 'regardless of how heinous and harmful the action, if you run from the consequences long enough the consequences disappear." I also think it's pretty scary to blame the 13 year old girl or claim the she was 'asking for it' after having been drugged and protesting. The act of middle aged man drugging, raping and sodomizing a 13 year old girl is evil regardless of how much of a 'genius' he may be. Anyone else with less resources would have been put jail long ago. BTW, those transits are really interesting Raymond! Thanks. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3731 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 02:29 PM
BTW i'm not saying "he's a paedo let him free!!!"I'm saying "god damn the Justice system is so WARPED". Just in case you all think i'm sticking up for a paedo.  IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 02:44 PM
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT he did NOT "escape justice" at the time. he copped a plea, like any number of defendants,and then the judge changed his mind after the fact. isn't this called double jeopardy or something like that? whether plea bargaining is morally okay or not, it is common practice. i don't like the man and it's OBVIOUS he likes young women, but he did time, paid damages and has been paying the price ever since in terms of loss of income and freedom to come and go. and no need to be sorry for my experience, it was my idea, like i said, and i have never been sorry. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3731 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 02:47 PM
Yes, double jeopardy.IP: Logged |
songwriter Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 02:49 PM
When did a paedophile become "highly intelligent, considered human being."?"It's a one off case. He is not a paedophile. He is a man who ****** up because his wife and unborn childs murder destroyed him." "Just in case you all think i'm sticking up for a paedo." Do you really believe you're not defending him? "The film business will be in uproar." What a loss! "Of course she is over it... several million $'s over it!! It made her life. Look at it unemotionally, will ya." It's a cruel thing to say. Yeah, you're truly unemotional. Lara's logic can be pretty scary.  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 04:32 PM
"BTW, those transits are really interesting Raymond! Thanks."Yeah...I was blown away by that exact transiting Saturn conjunct his Venus. After I read about his arrest in Switzerland in regards to that old sex crime, I figured that he must have a major hard Saturn transit in connection to his 8th house and/or the planets, Mars or Venus. sure enough, transit Saturn smack on that 8th house ruler,Venus in the 12th house. Transiting Varuna (justice,judgment) conjunct his Moon (women) in 10th makes sense too.
this stuff has strengthened my belief in Astrology, especially when it comes to transits. Raymond
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jane Knowflake Posts: 583 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 05:02 PM
Maybe his higher soul* wants to be punished for this?His Draconic Sun is at 26º Virgo. T.Saturn is exactly cnj it. These events may be in accordance with what he needs, and even he, on some level, realizes that. *or whatever the correct terminology is.  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 05:06 PM
jane,Wow! that is very interesting I don't look at Draconics stuff. I know very little about them. They seem very valid and worth exploring! Raymond
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jane Knowflake Posts: 583 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 05:09 PM
Glaucus, I hope you get into Draconics. I'm sure you'll find some amazing insights for the rest of us. Prepare to have your mind blown though, draconics is where sh1t gets real!IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3731 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 05:33 PM
LOL **** off Songwriter... if you think i'm UNemotional then you need to re-align your perspective.I'm ALL about emotion and i stand by what i said. So why don't you say something worthwhile instead of pick apart my posts. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 334 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 05:44 PM
I agree with choc, this happened to me twice when I was 11 years old. You think the american police are overly ambitious when trying to convict perverts? I'm living proof 99 percent of the time they are not! Some of you are talking about compassion, what about having compassion for that child over some old rapist pervert? It's just like the micheal jackson thing, everytime someone has talent everyone thinks that makes them a good person and it does not! It's ignorant and sickening, enough said.IP: Logged |
Dervish Knowflake Posts: 538 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:06 PM
Isn't there a statutes of limitation? IIRC, only bank robbery and murder could be charged if the system failed to deal with it within 7 years or so, save under very unusual circumstances where the crime didn't come to light until recently (ie, if a murder or rape or whatever was not known--say if a victim was in a coma, for example--until like 10 years later, the countdown for the statute started THEN rather than when it actually happened). If this guy IS extradited and sent to court, what if the victim refuses to testify because she wants to put it behind her and/or it was already settled in her mind? Should she get a subpoena to appear? What if she still refuses? Don't get me wrong. I don't excuse what he did under any circumstances, and sounded to me like even though he fled, he got off way too light at the time. Still, I don't see a point in this at this time as the victim has, for whatever reason, put it behind her (and it may cause her further harm at this point to reopen old wounds), and I doubt the guy is a threat to society anymore. The California justice system is also under extreme financial distress at this time, too (with plenty of crimes done today to deal with). That said, the only way the murder of his wife would make my sympathize with his crime is if it was a vigilante assault on one of the killers or burning down where the Manson family had stayed (as stupid as destroying a crime scene like that would be if he wanted the maximize the chances of the prosecution to succeed, assuming it happened about as soon as charges were filed). Strikes me as irrelevant for hurting a child, however. And I'm not talking punishment really, but the safety of society against a proven menace. Ah well, it's pretty historical to me though. Interesting astrological commentary Glaucus. ETA: I don't think he should be compared to Michael Jackson. We know this guy is guilty, but it was never proven or admitted that MJ was, and I believe innocent until proven guilty. I, for one, would hold MJ in utter contempt if I believed him guilty of what he's accused of doing, but I don't believe him guilty of it. And btw, I'm not a fan of his, and I laugh (feeling a little bad as I do) at many of the satires about him being a perv. IP: Logged |
songwriter Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:13 PM
Lara, first, curb your language, or I'll have to bite your nasty tongue off.  Second, sorry, but defending a paedophile and saying that he needs compassion makes you very much unemotional in my eyes. I dont need to re-align my perspective. You're the one who should do this. I remember that you did the same thing in Mike Tyson thread. Now let's get back to astrology! Sorry, Raymond. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2265 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:26 PM
Oh please, time for everyone to project their garbage onto this as usual, and pipe in with their awful, awful experiences. Join the club, man.Enough. He's in his late 70s. It's on his own conscience and that's the bottom line. No one's 'protecting' a pedophile here, just disagreeing with an opinion. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 334 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:30 PM
Songwriter I second your statements all the way. I was down right shocked by the cold unemotion I witnessed on the first page of this thread then the ridiculous attempts to "clean it up" afterwards.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3731 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:32 PM
WHATEVER Song.Everyone deserves compassion. Compassion is universal, it does not pigeon-hole or judge!! lol IP: Logged |
Choc Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:34 PM
quote: but he did time, paid damages
No he didn't. quote: and has been paying the price ever since in terms of loss of income and freedom to come and go.
Lol. That doesn't compare to being incarcerated, at all. He could still move around, live the good life and make movies.No, not everyone deserves compassion. Especially not rapists and pedophiles. In Polanski's case, he's got alot of it anyway. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1702 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:36 PM
The statute of limitations is tolled (that means it stops running if someone flees after being charged, thus making them a fugitive) in any crime. The victim not "caring" doesn't matter. You have to look at it from a legal perspective: If the victim didn't want to press charges, they could be intimidated into not prosecuting even if they really want to, so it's a matter of the law having to account for the precedent that could scarily be set. I am not saying anything, because I think I made my views pretty clear in another thread I will say, I hope some people on this thread get "balance for their actions." If you don't know what I mean, read Anne Ortelee's weekly weather and it will become clear. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3731 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:39 PM
CHOChow can you say that not everyone deserves compassion? How can compassion have boundaries? No wonder the world is such a negative and messy place if compassion and love come with limitations :-S Diana - thanks  My life is just great at the moment and getting better every day through love and compassion. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 334 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:44 PM
"No one is protecting a paedophile on here." I think that is a matter of opinion. And who in the hell is anyone to say that his victim is over it?? WTF? Were you there and do you know her personally? That was so cold blooded. Money never gets a victim over anything!! Go tell that to children who have been raped and molested. Did the money erase their horrible memories that stole their childhood? I think not. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2265 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2009 06:44 PM
You've got a problem with the situation, then you're probably projecting your own personal experiences onto it and want someone to hang for your past, and hey, why not a celebrity, right? Get thee to a therapist and deal with your issues. This story is not about YOU. This is the beginning of mob mentality.And you guys have ZERO imagination too. You want justice? Fine: He's a brilliant filmmaker who is able to glean a great deal into the darkness of the psyche. You have him do a documentary or film about young girls being sexually abused and raped. You have him work on it and create it into a coherent story. Then you release the film with a public announcement for the reason of the project. Then you take the money which the movie makes and you donate it to the right charities for this case. Win/Win. Justice served. Case closed. Moving on. And don't call me cold-blooded because you don't like what I have to say. IP: Logged |