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PlutoSquared
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posted December 02, 2010 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
I am mentioning freedom of not being politically correct, you are mentioning verbal abuse.

and you imply that I applause verbal abuse.

see, but I don't mind, since I am the one who ask for freedom.


No, Pire, I am referring to your prior post that says:

and yes, of course, I think women should be publically verbally abused...

My definition of Freedom includes Justice... In fact, the two are very much intertwined. I don't think you can have one without the other.

Can my children have FREEDOM if they are not able to play in their yards without getting abused or hurt by other's recklessness?

NO.

Can we have relationships with one another freely without a sense of right and wrong?

I would say absolutely NO.

In my view, you cannot have freedom without fairness and justice. Abuse and Freedom are contradictory, and to say that Freedom allows for any sort of behavior is simply wrong.

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posted December 02, 2010 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PlutoSquared, are you deliberately selcting what you read and understand?

selcting some of my comments to fit your argument?

are you trying to portray me in some way?

and Ami, are you trying to ostracise me?

or you seriously don't understand what I mean by politically correctness that happens around here lately?

do we all have to be politically correct now?

or just those who choose to be?

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PlutoSquared
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posted December 02, 2010 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely Not, Pire... I'm trying to relate to what you're saying.

If I have misconstrued your statement, please clarify, because from my standpoint it seems you are saying, in essence, that it's alright for someone to be demeaning (and pire, this is in reference to not just this thread, but another one that was deleted in the past week)...

My original disgust comes from prior seen comments, not just the above that states "grow a pair" but a continual theme of degrading Ami... to the point of really cruel mockery.

Grow up is not so bad, and had he said that, actually I might not have found it so offensive...

Perhaps there is more to the story than what I've seen, regardless I think AMI needs to stay away from boys who don't treat her nicely and appreciate her. That is not my "politically correct" view, just my honest opinion.

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posted December 02, 2010 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Absolutely Not, Pire... I'm trying to relate to what you're saying.

If I have misconstrued your statement, please clarify, because from my standpoint it seems you are saying, in essence, that it's alright for someone to be demeaning (and pire, this is in reference to not just this thread, but another one that was deleted in the past week)...

My original disgust comes from prior seen comments, not just the above that states "grow a pair" but a continual theme of degrading Ami... to the point of really cruel mockery.

Grow up is not so bad, and had he said that, actually I might not have found it so offensive...

Perhaps there is more to the story than what I've seen, regardless I think AMI needs to stay away from boys who don't treat her nicely and appreciate her. That is not my "politically correct" view, just my honest opinion.


"(and pire, this is in reference to not just this thread, but another one that was deleted in the past week)..."

that is not clear to me. can you elaborate please?

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PlutoSquared
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posted December 02, 2010 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm not sure how much freedom I have...

But, I have seen posts from this fellow in the past that have mocked Ami's mental stability (mocked, as in really cruel joke), her status as a moderator, and even accused innocent posters of being her on other unrelated threads...

Overall, not pretty. Not pleasant.

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posted December 02, 2010 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Double-Post

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Ami Anne
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posted December 02, 2010 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Were you around for THAT thread ,PS?
I thought it got destroyed before anyone saw it

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posted December 02, 2010 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, AMI. I saw that one, for sure. That is why I am SO SHOCKED that you would say you "love" someone like that.

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posted December 02, 2010 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Pire, I'm seriously just trying to understand the situation, not to alienate you or warp your opinion.

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posted December 02, 2010 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPS

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posted December 02, 2010 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

You also seemed to make a very graceful joke, something along the lines of...

He's all yours ladies...

That was very clever and funny, btw.

But, seriously, AMI... no guy, no matter how hot, how ANYTHING, is worth that kind of treatment...

I thought Gemini's valued their freedom and had a sense (like Libra) of fairness? The Geminis in the past always seem to be very smart and adaptable people...

Why settle for less?

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posted December 02, 2010 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, if you refer the thread where predominantlyfire refered to therealtruth as Ami, I personnally thought the same as he did, and as a matter of fact, I don't think therealtruth has ever posted again

you could check the IP address if you wished, as moderators.

having said that, and to go back to your misunderstanding of my comments, you can go back to my comments on page 2 here and you will understand my point, unless you try very hard not to.

my first comment, was that political correctness is a danger,

and the second comment was an anticipation of such a political correctness. and as I expected, some brave souls (*ironic*) would raise the banner of rights for the weakest

now I can explain why I think politcal correctness is a danger, but not in this thread, it would not be appropriate I suppose.

everyone who wished a Happy birthday to PDF, wished more than just one happy day, isn't it?

one last thing about political correctness,

if there is no dark, there is no light

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posted December 02, 2010 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's make a thread about it, Pire. I am interested in hearing what you have to say.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 02, 2010 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man
That thing got erased in twenty minutes. How many people saw it

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posted December 02, 2010 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the new thread, Pire...

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000593.html

This thread can be found in Global Unity 2.0
Title: The Dangers of Being "Politically Correct"

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posted December 02, 2010 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a cancer rising plutosquared. with an 8th house sun and a 4th house moon, I need more time to bond with people. and for me, discussing that type of things is akin to bonding, but go on, do one, and may be I'll get more sociable.

thanks PlutoSquared

(edited, feeling more sociable)

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posted December 02, 2010 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, pire... Well, I am an Aries with a 3rd house Stellium... with a very packed house...

Moon, Mars, Pluto and Saturn...

Nevertheless, I will post there and HOPE that you will have something to add, even if you don't agree.

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posted December 02, 2010 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If anyone is suggesting that I am messing around with the computer , you got the wrong chick.I TOLD you guys that God has a sense of humor

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posted December 03, 2010 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 03, 2010 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Instead, I think it is safe to say anyone who publically degrades another is wrong, no matter the circumstances.

I disagree. Know-it-all types need a bit of degrading in order to learn humility.

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posted December 03, 2010 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pire
I am gonna say this honestly and straight forward.
IF you feel ostracized, YOU are doing it to yourself.
You can make yourself be an ostracized person by acting like a jerk, quite frankly.
You can ,also, be very charming, as French men are
You will reap what you sow based on the choices you make i.e you will FEEL at home in LL or not.
Choose charming. It's cuter

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posted December 03, 2010 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG

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posted December 03, 2010 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
and yes, of course, I think women should be publically verbally abused...


For Heaven's sake people, stop getting your knickers in a twist. Did no one see the smilie in the header

And I'm with pire on this, end of the world people, big time.

FUBAR-ed

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From the darkness, lead me to light,
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posted December 03, 2010 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty Boop,

I would fight for the rights of gays, in fact I have had to do that...

Recently, I ended a friendship over a nasty gay joke.

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posted December 03, 2010 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AcousticGod,

Again, I disagree, because "correcting" others in a demeaning way leads to a lot of backlash and chaos all around.

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