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Randall
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posted November 21, 2017 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Presumption of innocence applies for everyone in this country. Only he and his accuser know if he's guilty or not. The timing seems mighty suspicious. Public opinion is quite mercurial, as we saw with Trump. I wouldn't count Moore out. I want the truth to come out, whatever that is.

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posted November 21, 2017 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let the voters decide.

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posted November 21, 2017 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Hey einstein, a crime in which the perp uses as weapons...a twisted, perverted, lewd, and predatory mind...plus eyes, hands, and genitals...what evidence do you want???"

More twisted blowhard rhetoric from the leftist lunatic set who thought they could steal a US Senate seat.

Don't look now but that idiotic meme has blown up in leftist lunatic's faces.

Only in twisted little minds of leftist lunatics are Americans judged guilty upon accusation.

Rational people reject the banana republic justice twisted leftist lunatics slobber over.

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posted November 21, 2017 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donations to Moore's campaign have increased significantly.

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posted November 21, 2017 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot compute why it matters which party a sexual abuser belongs to.

A crime is a crime, if one has been committed.

Why on earth are we not talking about how to improve the justice system for those who have been sexually assaulted??
Which party is talking about that?
Where is the outrage for the victims and potential victims??

If this is politics - a monster that desensitises people to the true horrors of this world - then I will continue to oppose all forms of it. As I thought, it is no more than an elaborate way to keep people fighting amongst themselves so they can be herded easily.

What a sad day for humanity that sexual assault is no more than eggs to throw at the opposition.

I wonder what Linda would have thought about this!

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posted November 21, 2017 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Donations to Moore's campaign have increased significantly.

That is terrifying.

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posted November 21, 2017 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed--a crime is a crime if one has been committed.

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posted November 22, 2017 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not agree with the "Let the Voters Decide" rhetoric. Adolph Hitler would have won hands down in a free and fair election in 1942 Germany. He had killed a million Jews and Polish Civilians then.

India's PM Narendra Modi won the Gujarat State Election in 2002 with 58% vote share after overseeing a pogrom that ended with 2000 Minority Civilians burnt to death and 30,000 still displaced, to this day.

I hope America does not devolve to "Let the Voters Decide" on matters of crime.

Let the Voters Decide from a set of candidates who are not criminals nor have been subject to serious allegations of sexual harassment. Whatever be the party affiliation.

If Roy Moore proves his innocence, he can always stand for the next elections and win with a thumping majority, or become Governor after proving his innocence that all the 9 women accusers are liars whom he has never seen/interacted with in his life.

Let me remind: Roy Moore called 9-11 murder of 3000 Americans "Divine Retribution". This is the mindset that will justify death/destruction of homosexuals, minorities and even ordinary American children in a Natural Disaster by thumping the Bible. This is the Mindset that hates Scientific Reasoning.
Such people have no place in Civilized Governance. USA is not a third rate African or Asian Banana Republic to tolerate such candidates. Hope Alabamans avoid voting for him. Don't suffer the Fate of third World Country States who voted for religious kooks. In India's Uttar Pradesh, an Indian "Roy Moore" was installed by Modi. He has more than 200 accusations against him. People decided.
Now 700 babies have died from Oxygen Deprivation in Hospitals in his home town since he became Chief, and where does he invest money? Not on advanced medical infra/equipment but on Cow Shelters and Orange Painting of buildings. Nothing can be done for 5 years. Think about that, 700 Infants dead and not an utterance can be made against him or his Masters.

When Nations choose criminals, Crime shall govern them.

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posted November 22, 2017 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't how much of what is being said in this thread is heresay or just outright fake news, but I just saw an interview last night, and completely Moore denied it all. Voters aren't deciding crime. Crimes have statutes of limitation. And many politicians in Washington over the years have been convicted felons and have even lost law licenses. A felon can't vote, but they can be voted for. Moore has been convicted of nothing. He has won 8 other offices, and none of this has surfaced. But now that a Senate seat is at stake, 40-year allegations conveniently pop up. I accept that he may be guilty. You should accept that he may be innocent. Either way, like it or not, the voters will, in fact, decide.

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posted November 22, 2017 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I cannot compute why it matters which party a sexual abuser belongs to."

Really?

Let me spell it out for you.

The yipping, yapping Socialists of the democrat party engaged in a generation long love fest of "virtue signaling" about their love and support for women's rights. At the same time, these leftist lunatics attempted to cast republicans and conservatives as "women haters".

Now, their masks have been ripped off their dirty little democrat faces and we find democrat institutions, in Hollywood, in the press and in the congress are being accused of sexual assaults...including rape by women over whom those accused had power.

Are these sexual assaults and misconduct strictly on the democrat side? No, but it's the democrats who alleged...for several election cycles that there was a "Republican War on Women".

So, here's a question for you.

Where were you with your questions when democrats were charging republicans with a "War on Women"...and in fact, they still are making that charge....in spite of getting slapped silly by a multitude of charges of democrat rapes, sexual assaults and other sexual misconduct made by....."women".

Look for the last bastion of democrat Socialist hegemony, academia, to start getting their well deserved lumps in the near future.

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posted November 22, 2017 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The republicans have always had their war against women.

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posted November 22, 2017 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoooops!

Child Sex Abuse Victim Calls Out (democrat) Doug Jones for Hypocrisy. Jones Had Said Victim's Claims Were Without Merit. Cynical Attempt to Extort Money!
Jeff Poor
21 Nov 2017


Doug Jones accused of not standing up for victim's rights of 15 year old girl!
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/child-sex-abuse-victim-calls-doug-jones-hypocrisy-jones-said-victims-claims-without-merit-cynical-attempt-extort-money/

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posted November 22, 2017 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Repub war on women takes place in the legislatures.. therefore IS politically defined. The Dems traditionally legislate in favour of women's rights. That there are creeps in both parties and you (finally admittedly) want to make the behaviour of individuals into a party issue.. is pathetic.

So you can climb off your phony high horse Mr PotKettle.

I do agree with you that people are innocent till proven guilty and all this firing of people on the basis of accusations is wrongheaded.

Yesterday there was a story out about a young athlete who was just released after 6 years in prison for a rape that was invented by his accuser.

However Roy Moore has been proven to consider himself to be above law while a judicial servant .. and shouldn't be even eligible to run for Congress for that reason alone imo. And the fact that so many Repubs are willing to overlook this to get their crap tax law passed speaks volumes about them

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posted November 22, 2017 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The thing is, the accuser is the one put on trial as soon as an accusation is made. That is unfair. You see plenty of it here, with two men dismissing the claims of women, and putting them on trial.

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posted November 27, 2017 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfect!

Nancy 'Fruit-Loops' PeeLousy is defending Bill Clinton, Al Franken and John Conyers.

But President Trump is attacked and Roy Moore is called a child molester!

Typical leftist lunatic thinking. Our guys GOOD, your guys BAD!

So, don't look now leftist lunatics but one of your brain dead leftist lunatic icons is lining up on the side of serial assaulters of women!

Pelosi Defends Clinton, Conyers, Franken; Attacks Trump, Calls Moore ‘a Child Molester’
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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/26/pelosi-defends-clinton-conyers-franken-attacks-trump-calls-moore-child-molester/

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posted November 27, 2017 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally incorrect to defend Al Franken or Conyers.

Bill Clinton is old news, a known pervert. No sympathy for him or any of the Satanic Epstein's "Orgy" buddies who visited "Lolita" Island with him and mauled children mercilessly.

BTW, Saint Celibate Donald Trump never visited any place with Epstein, never met Epstein, that is "Fake News"....

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posted November 27, 2017 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meanwhile Breitbarf demonize the Dems and laugh off Tromp accusers, defend Moore.

The difference is.....? One Dem opinion vs a WH mouthpiece publication.

"Innocent till proven guilty!!!" Scream the defenders of Moore.. Meanwhile branding Clinton who was never proven to have done what he was accused of except in a consensual relationship and of course for lying. Hillary is of course smeared for saying the very same things Repubs and Tromp are saying about Moores accusers.

The biggest differences I see are that Tromp and Moore were accused by more women; the age of alleged victims factor; and the fact that accusations against both Moore and Tromp preceded their election while the Dems you condemn were only accused after election. And yes I know Moore has not been elected yet but people who vote for him and endorse him well do so in full knowledge of multiple accusations. Just as you voted for Tromp after hearing his habitual attitude towards wpmen and multiple accusations

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posted November 27, 2017 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 27, 2017 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the main difference cat is that they have an R after the name.

PARTY first! Now and always

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posted November 27, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Presumption of innocence applies for everyone in this country. Only he and his accuser know if he's guilty or not

I agree timing is suspicious.. in every one of these cases. We are free to discuss probabilities but not to convict anyone. Even apparent confessions are not always actual confessions.

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For those republicans that like to accuse papers like the Washington post, of "fake news": [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/20 17/11]http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2 017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html[/url]

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posted November 27, 2017 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh bloody hell, why won't the link post correctly? I'm in pain, and am tired of trying to fix it. Going back to sleep now.

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posted November 27, 2017 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nancy Pelosi Has Been Enabling Sexual Predators For Decades
Nov 27, 2017

As Guy has thoroughly exposed, over the weekend House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi defended Congressman John Conyers as an "icon" amid allegations he fired a woman on his staff after she refused to give him sexual favors.

Over at Vox, Pelosi is being called out as the ultimate enabler of sexual harassers and abusers. "That woman." She'll also being held accountable as part of the reason why women don't come forward more often when they are victims of sexual misconduct......
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/11/27/nancy-pelosis-history-of-defending-sexual-abusers-n2414627

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posted November 27, 2017 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump voters are enabling sexual predators, too. Trump, and Roy Moore. Who else?

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posted November 28, 2017 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Pelosi Defends Clinton, Conyers, Franken; Attacks Trump, Calls Moore 'a Child Molester'"


Do you ever do your own investigation, watch vids, and use your own judgement?? Or do you just get on here to barf out bannon's latest spin on the truth??

Pelosi didn't defend any of them. She said no one was proud of clinton at the time and he was impeached. She punted on conyers a bit, spoke abt due process and was confident conyers wld do the right thing. She referred to him as an icon, and later that same afternoon gave a cleaner statement saying "no matter how great an individual's legacy, it is not a license for harassment". Also on the same day (sunday afternoon) she got conyers to step down as the top democrat in the House Judiciary Committee.

What progress have the repubs made on getting moore to step down??

What pelosi wasn't prepared for was chuck todd's belligerent questioning, and complete sexism as he kept rudely interrupting her, not letting her finish her sentences, etc

In contrast todd showed complete deference to GOP senator rob portman (ohio).

Chuck todd came across as a sexist, ironically talking abt a subject related to the power men use over women and here he was, doing exactly that w/ the former speaker of the house, but not w/ a male GOP senator.

Im sure he made his bosses at comcast happy, but by not letting pelosi speak abt the GOP tax bill, which is what she had come to discuss, he showed that he's a corporate shill

Watch the different ways in which he interviews pelosi and portman -


https://youtu.be/4blW-nqEIvY

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